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Oblivious 04-08-06, 04:55 AM Many people, try to force others to agree with them, so when they find that their position is weak, they start yelling, insulting...etc. Do you think this is a good way to debate, because you think you're smarter than the other ppl u're debating with? or is it a sign of weakness?
What's the best way for a debate you think?
MorphaKnight 04-08-06, 09:03 AM for me the best way to debate with people who shout is to surpass their shouting. Since they refuse to listen to my quiet words, and continue shouting and shoving ******** down my throat, I just do the same but much worse :D I hate it, but its necessairy with people who refuse to listen to others.
Fdaitny 04-08-06, 11:10 AM Like in a class debate or something like that, I don't yell why I'm right, and everyone else is wrong. It's their opinion. I try to convince them about my point, and they try to convince me about their's, but there's no yelling involved. I just smile while giving examples while trying to convince. If it doesn't work, ya well, I'm not changing my mind for them, unless I was completely convinced. :p
Rossonero 04-08-06, 11:11 AM Debate in football :D
DeSerTDesTroYeR 04-08-06, 11:14 AM debate with logic. But again everyone has his/her own version of logic, which can be illogical. So, I suppose in the end. Debating with an open mind to accept the fact that we could be wrong is another way to go with it.
I only debate in issues I'm fully aware of..if I know nothing then i say nothing.
To debate in something that you are full aware of then you will be able to present your point, otherwise NEVER debate in anything that you don't know and make yourself look stupid !
And the most important is to debate with open mind as DD said to get to know things you don't know.
Those who use shouting and yelling, simply I ignore them !
BliNd_MelOn 04-08-06, 01:22 PM debate with logic. But again everyone has his/her own version of logic, which can be illogical. So, I suppose in the end. Debating with an open mind to accept the fact that we could be wrong is another way to go with it.
I only debate in issues I'm fully aware of..if I know nothing then i say nothing.
With both your answers comes mine...Repeating what you said, first of all debating in something you actually have knowledge of, and then debating with an open mind and using logic...
And never ever force your way or opinions on people..
Senorita 04-08-06, 01:40 PM And always with respect, there's no need to insult someone or act all that just because they don't agree with you or share the same view in the matter..
Rossonero 04-08-06, 01:55 PM Debates turn into arguements, when irrisponsible people try to debate. Turns out both dont know what they are talking about
just stay calm.. well if your point is weak n u dont want to get convinced by the other side then just withdraw.. its better then insulting n shouting ..
chapati 04-08-06, 04:38 PM i disagree.. anything but withdraw because THAT is a sign of weakness.. just stick to your point all the way through.. as long as you've made it, it's up to them whether or not to be convinced about it.. listen to what they want to say, tell them why you think you're right and why they might be wrong, but never let go of your opinion because u'll get used to it and you'll lose faith in your beliefs.. and about keeping in mind that there might be some wrong in your opinion, that should STAY IN YOUR MIND, and not to be revealed to the ones you are debating with.. otherwise, you're down ;) my professor loves aggressive debates, so i'm used to shouting and screaming lol.. that's a good method to prove a point hehe :D
Angel_Eyes 04-08-06, 05:46 PM Anyone who forces others to agree with them is a sign that they are a control freak....
Whys everyone convinced that some people yell and shout on purpose? Becuase seriously some people just drive me to a level where I feel like tearing my hair off becuse of them defending their obvious wrong views. They just wont listen that, and sometimes theyre too obviusly wrong that I think theyre just acting and debating for fun only.
I might debate on stuff I'm not sure about, not to prove my worng point, but to seek more information, and if there was a possibility of me getting convinced by the other opinion.
Shinoda LP 04-08-06, 07:29 PM When they don't listen to you or start shouting, kick them in the crotch. Then you lay all your opinions on the table.
TripleTee 04-08-06, 07:42 PM Debates shouldn't be about controlling or insulting to prove one's point.
The best debates are led by facts, knowledge and logic. Each side wants to prove their points right... so each come up with examples and facts that overthrows the other until finally the one with the highest points wins the debate.
Here shouting and cussing out will reduce your points tremendously :p...
I think that's the way of it
When they don't listen to you or start shouting, kick them in the crotch. Then you lay all your opinions on the table.
Thats the first thought that comes to my mind in similar situations, but coming to think about it, the only achievment fulfilled is the self (Mostly for guys) need for voilence, it'll make you happy, but wont prove your point of the debation, so the true goal will be lost. :p
well, if its someone from my family or friends, i would probably shout back. if it was someone i didnt know, i probably would shut up and nod, im kinda weak to these situations with other ppl, dunno why
Oblivious 05-08-06, 05:34 AM I used to end my debates with ( omg , ur dumb..and am tired) lol...now..I keep on talking in a calm way..till I lose my temper and end it lol...anyway, I don't debate in things I don't know anything about.
fatamooo 05-08-06, 06:19 AM I only like to debate with people who keep an open mind and are willing to change their opinions if they realize theyve been proven wrong OR know how to present their side properly and not resort to childish antics.
The worst person I've ever debated with is someone who would NEVER ever admit that he was wrong - which he ususally was cos his opinions were absolutely ridiculous :p - and to make things worse, was also the kind of person who like to start a debate over pretty much every topic. People like that are veeeery tiring.
Shinoda LP 05-08-06, 08:52 AM The worst person I've ever debated with is someone who would NEVER ever admit that he was wrong - which he ususally was cos his opinions were absolutely ridiculous :p - and to make things worse, was also the kind of person who like to start a debate over pretty much every topic. People like that are veeeery tiring.
Tell me about it. I live with one like that now.
him: "Africans are ****ed up. They don't do sh!t... worthless idiots. No wonder most of them still look like apes!"
me: "Dude, that was plain fcukin' racist man..."
him: "fcuk that. look at them!! Don't they still look like apes?"
me: "nevermind, I'm gonna go chill in my room now..."
Don't debate....unless u have to...:cool:
the best way to debate is by trying to convince the other with some logical examples..while being calm and in control
Originally Posted by NaBHaN
I only debate in issues I'm fully aware of..if I know nothing then i say nothing.
thats important otherwise you'll convince the other that you are just stupid and they might never even try to listen to you in something you are fully aware of :shy:
yelling and insulting to me is a sign of weakness..it shows that you are not sure of what you are talking about or you know it's wrong but you still want someone to back you up :mmhmm: that a major weekness issue :bored:
P.S:been busy Obli..many new (interesting) threads ;)
The worst method in debating is to insult and try to force people to agree with your minor mind regardless them being wrong or right.
Debating is debating where we can provide our random thoughts not to fight, even though we may not agree with the person we debating with, there is no need to show low-respect. the structure of debating is respect and the essence of it is not making fun of the person talking to you, nor saying stuff that make him shut up, hearing and debating is the best, and the ending must be better than flamming, we are not in a zoo.
and I hate this stuff about debating :
1 - making me shut up with several ways just to let me not share my thoughts and to think that they are right without even debating
2 - dense actions which may lead into flamming and eventually fighting on a stupid reason
3 - even if we dont agree we mustn't make the person talking shut up.
4 - beaware of what you are talking about and dont make your self the next generation einstein
I enjoy Debates :D
eventually either something in me is changed or i changed something on some one :) it's fun if it is practised in the righ way :cute:
Master_R 14-08-06, 05:35 PM i dont find debate a good thing in everything but sometimes debating is the only thing u can do
Black Lolly 14-08-06, 05:48 PM yelling and shoutin is a sign of weakness ,, the best way to debate is to think before you say anything and to try to understand the other side too
i get convinsed easily :XD: and hate that in me
*NK 105* 14-08-06, 06:26 PM i love debates. but obviously yelling and insults aren't the way to go about it.
Respect for each others opinions, and generally keeping an open mind helps.
fatamooo 14-08-06, 11:09 PM Tell me about it. I live with one like that now.
him: "Africans are ****ed up. They don't do sh!t... worthless idiots. No wonder most of them still look like apes!"
me: "Dude, that was plain fcukin' racist man..."
him: "fcuk that. look at them!! Don't they still look like apes?"
me: "nevermind, I'm gonna go chill in my room now..."
Hahah! Yeah, it's realllly tempting to sit with them and try to make them understand your point of view, but I just found that if I pretend like they're trying to make a joke, it saves my head a lot of pain :p
Endure Whisper 15-08-06, 10:00 AM I don't get angry when people don't get me or agree with me, because I strongly believe that people look at things from different angles and have different points of views.
The furthest I could get is to just make them see what I'm seeing without having to agree with me, and then let them go. I don't bother to stress myself to please people ;)
The brain. 16-08-06, 02:29 PM Debate like an argument both arelike an ' Art '..
They need talent and knowledge.. u need either one to make a 50% chance of wining..
For myself, I think I have my own skills/tricks in argument but sure I’m not a debater
What I learn related to this: if u shout/insult then u have already a very weak argument..
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