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Pineapple Thief 04-07-06, 06:42 PM http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/5145210.stm
Relegation call for Italian four
The Italian Football Federation's prosecutor has called for all four clubs at the centre of the match-fixing scandal to be thrown out of Serie A.
Stefano Palazzi called for Juventus to drop two divisions and for AC Milan, Fiorentina and Lazio to drop one.
He also asked for points penalties to be imposed and that Juve's 2005 and 2006 titles be stripped from the club.
And on a bad day for Juve, coach Fabio Capello resigned, paving the way for a return to Spanish giants Real Madrid.
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I really didnt expect that to be honest :o But does this mean its final?
CrazyReD 04-07-06, 06:57 PM nah i'm sure appeals and all
but wow it's like xmass for other clubs if those 4 drop
but it also means that Inter gets the titles that it was cheated from
poor inter =/
NiGhTFaCe 04-07-06, 07:00 PM If Juventus is going down, so then the other should as well as they are involved.
Rossonero 05-07-06, 02:40 AM But still, Inter will never win...wont change anything
NiGhTFaCe 05-07-06, 03:00 AM I am sure the Calcio will be interesting next season :hyper:
Doing this for sure will give a lesson to the football mafia in Italy.
Rossonero 05-07-06, 03:01 AM Yes, I say Empoli will win Scudetto :p
I don't think it will happen
Just drama
CrazyReD 05-07-06, 04:00 AM from what i read inter will be awarded
not that i'd like inter to win it that way
but if the teams did cheat then they get what they desreve
Rossonero 05-07-06, 04:20 AM A penalty yes, but this has nothing to do with next season. Why relegate them? Why punish the teams and players? why not the people involved? Meani, Galliani, Lottito? Moggi? Giraudo? Bettega? Why the teams? the fans? Why?
5alfanooh 05-07-06, 04:25 AM I'm with Juve even in the 3rd Devision...thats all i can say :)
CrazyReD 05-07-06, 04:26 AM but it does
they got they elimnated other teams to go to the champions league and what not, not to mentoin the money
the players can always move to other teams thats not a problem as for the people involved who said they arn't going to be punished? it's a given if they are involved and proved to be involved they'll get punished
as for the fans nothing much can be done to them
why take such hard action? simple to make examples to anyone who'd think of doing it again
one thing though juve milan and the rest are big teams with money i'm sure they can get a judge who can bend over the rules or reach a deal or smthin so that they don't get regulated
All i like in this, is that capello is going to real madrid.
I don't give a damn about their boring "1-NIL" league.
Rossonero 05-07-06, 04:44 PM Its football in the end, if you dont give a damn EviliO, others do
Did i ever ask you not to give a 'damn' about it? If you read carefully you'll see the 'I' which normally refers to the person who is talking .
I hope all the 4 clubs are thrown out of Serie A
But I doubt justice will take place, they will bribe their way out of it
Alot of corruption in Italian soccer
Rossonero 13-07-06, 07:35 PM There will be no bribary, one thing is for sure, atleast one club is going back a division.
Corruption is everywhere, especially in Turin
*FaLLiNG STaR* 13-07-06, 08:06 PM So when will we know what the court will decide?
Rossonero 13-07-06, 08:21 PM Should be today or saturday.
I hope all the teams will be relegated
Rossonero 13-07-06, 09:57 PM That doesnt change the fact that Italy won the world cup :p
Rossonero 13-07-06, 11:36 PM An incident from a player who plays at Inter does not cost a whole nation by demoting 4 clubs to second division!
Get real!
Pineapple Thief 13-07-06, 11:41 PM I hope they dont get relegated TBH.
nezitiC 14-07-06, 12:15 AM I hope they send Juve, Ac.Milan and others to the Omani second division league for one season.
Since AC Milan will be relegated & most probably their players will join other clubs, I heard a rumor that AC Milan is planning to sign the former FC Barcelona striker to help them join the Serie A again
They are forcing Stoichkov to come back from his retirement
http://www.eurofotbal.com/img/zpravy/stoichkov.jpg
Rossonero 14-07-06, 02:37 AM We have faithful players commiting themselves to the club by saying: Our future is at Milan
Superbia 14-07-06, 04:38 AM juve is going through hard time :(:(:(
Rossonero 14-07-06, 03:46 PM If you guys have wondered who the real criminal is, its Juve. C'mon, 29Scudetti but only 2 Champions League Triumphs?
Anyone blames Milan? 6 times Champions League winners, how the hell would a club win a champions league (even more powerful than FIFA World Cup nowdays) with cheating?
NiGhTFaCe 14-07-06, 04:12 PM Rossonero, what the case of winning the local competitions or the UEFA Champions League has to do with these clubs getting involved?!
I think the case if I am not mistaking is talking about these clubs playing dirty to get some matches & so on.
The court will decide that, if a club has something with the case, so then it should be punished!
Rossonero 14-07-06, 04:56 PM How can a club play dirty to get some matches in the local league, and at the same time win matches against Europe's top clubs in the champions league?
NiGhTFaCe 14-07-06, 05:01 PM Rossonero, did AC Milan win the Champions League this season?!
Why Arsenal reached the final of Champions League & couldnt win the English Premier League?!
Can you get me the charges pointed to the four clubs?! We can read more about the case. We are not the ones to judge, then whatever you mentioned is not the way to judge ;)
Rossonero 14-07-06, 05:04 PM The verdict is said to be given out today.
Gazzeta: Juve, Lazio and Fiorontina to Serie B, Milan Serie A but no Champs league next season.
Milan have always reached advanced stages in the champions league. Especially the last 4 years, 3 time semi-finalists. Does that mean they bribed the linesman?
Well, to be honest, if that was so, why isnt Markus Merk being charged after denying Shevchenko's goal against Barcelona? After a wonderful dive by legendary Carles Puyol?
NiGhTFaCe 14-07-06, 05:08 PM Rossonero, again whatever you did in the Champions League has nothing to do with your case in the local league.
Who is talking about Barcelona VS Milan?! :os
Does that mean they bribed the linesman?
That can't be ruled out
Rossonero 14-07-06, 05:25 PM It can be ruled out, it is the champions league for god's sake.
Then you should have not involved the champions league in the local Serie A
That was the whole point :)
You think Berlusconi has prevented AC Milan from being relegated?
Rossonero 14-07-06, 06:12 PM I think he is the cause of AC Milan relegating. Because of his previous position in Italian government, people have faulse assumptions
CrazyReD 14-07-06, 06:34 PM verdict will be given at 1800 British Standard Time which i'm guessing is either 9 or 10 pm oman's time
Rossonero 14-07-06, 07:05 PM 7PM CET, 9PM MCT.
Dont believe what comes out at that time, because there will get finalized by the 20th of this month
Rossonero 15-07-06, 01:25 AM Juventus, Lazio and Fiorentina have been demoted to Serie A for their involvement in the Calciopoli scandal, but Milan have survived the drop.
The eagerly anticipated match-fixing verdicts were finally delivered this evening after seven days of deliberation by the CAF court.
Juventus have been stripped of their last two Serie A titles, sent down to Serie B and will start the new campaign with a 30 point deduction.
Lazio and Fiorentina have also been stripped of their Serie A status and will start with minus seven and minus 12 points respectively.
Milan have kept their place in Serie A but have been deducted 44 points from last season’s tally which means they will not be allowed to enter the Champions League.
The Rossoneri will also start the 2006-07 campaign with a 15 point deduction in the First Division.
Although this evening’s verdicts are strict, they are lighter than the ones called for by the FIGC prosecution team.
Stefano Palazzi had called for Juventus, at the centre of the scandal, to be relegated to a Division “lower than Serie B” and deducted six points.
He also urged the court to relegate the three other teams to Serie B with a 15-point deduction for Fiorentina and Lazio, but declared that Milan should only be docked three points.
All the teams involved do have the right to appeal.
*Channel4
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Punish the people involved, not the players, not the teams and not the fans!
Rossonero 15-07-06, 01:27 AM The Calciopoli verdicts were finally delivered this evening, here’s a brief rundown of all the sentences handed out.
Juventus:
Demoted to last place in 2004-05 season and stripped of that season’s title. Their 2005-06 Serie A title win has also been wiped out. They will start next season in Serie B with 30 point deduction. Former directors Luciano Moggi and Antonio Giraudo banned from football for five years.
Fiorentina:
Relegated to Serie B with 12-point penalty for 2006-07. President Andrea Della Valle banned for three years and six months. His brother Diego, the club’s honorary President, suspended for four years.
Lazio:
Relegated to Serie B with seven-point penalty for 2006-07. President Claudio Lotito banned for three years.
Milan:
They stay in Serie A, but will start next season with a 15-point deduction. They are deducted 44 points from last season’s point tally which means they have not qualified for the Champions League. Vice-President Adriano Galliani banned for a year. Rossoneri official Leonardo Meani suspended for three years and six months.
Refereeing officials:
Designator Paolo Bergamo deferred, Pierluigi Pairetto banned for two years and six months. President Tullio Lanese banned two years and six months, Vice-commissioner Gennaro Mazzei banned for a year, observer Pietro Ingargiola cautioned.
Referees:
Massimo De Santis banned for four years and six months, Paolo Dondarini stopped for three years and six months, Gianluca Paparesta banned for three months. Pasquale Rodomonti, Paolo Bertini, Domenico Messina, Gianluca Rocchi and Paolo Tagliavento all cleared.
Linesmen:
Claudio Puglisi and Fabrizio Babini banned for a year.
Italian Football Federation officials:
President Franco Carraro stopped for four years and six months. Vice-President Innocenzo Mazzini suspended for five years.
All those sentenced have five days to appeal to the Federal Court of Appeal. At this time, Messina, Lecce and Treviso would be re-instated into Serie A.
*Channel4
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CrazyReD 15-07-06, 03:32 AM poor viola :(
so who won the league the last 2 seasons?
ac ?
Pineapple Thief 15-07-06, 10:23 AM lol that would be funny.
For cheating, your punishment is...winning the league!!
Rossonero 15-07-06, 12:12 PM poor viola :(
so who won the league the last 2 seasons?
ac ?
If the last two scudetti were for milan, they wouldnt've deducted 44points lol.
I think they are for Inter...
Rossonero 15-07-06, 09:27 PM Milan have refused to rule out court action in their bid to overturn the Calciopoli verdict that may rule them out of European football next season.
“There are lots of reasons to challenge this contradictory verdict,” insisted the Rossoneri’s lawyer Leandro Cantamessa.
“I read the whole verdict and there’s no explanation for 59 points that have been deducted.”
The Calciopoli verdict saw 44 points subtracted from Milan’s 2005-06 total – leaving the Diavoli one place shy of UEFA Cup qualification – and a 15-point deduction imposed from the start of the new season.
However, Milan may still enter the UEFA Cup as Empoli – who claimed a spot as a result of the scandal – don’t have the necessary licence to enter the competition.
The Azzurri face a race against time to acquire the documentation but club President Fabrizio Corso is determined that his club can take advantage of their unexpected chance.
“This would be a unique opportunity for us,” the Tuscan minnows’ owner said. “Given that we’re a small club, it’s probably an unrepeatable opportunity.”
If Empoli are admitted to the UEFA Cup they may need to play their home games at Fiorentina’s Stadio Artemio Franchi.
Meanwhile, Cantamessa has also criticised the action taken against Milan’s Vice-President Adriano Galliani, who was banned from football for a year.
“It’s based on a phone call that lasted less than two minutes,” he claimed.
“From reading the verdict it sounds like they haven’t even heard the call. I hope that we don’t need to resort to the local courts but we haven’t ruled it out.”
*Channel4
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Forza Milan
I think the final verdicts were unfair, all teams weren't treated equally
Talk about bribery & politics when it comes to Serie A
I wonder how many titles those teams won over the years with fraud!
CrazyReD 16-07-06, 01:06 AM I see lots of faviorism to Ac milan
there has to be a way to get empoli in
but oh well
Rossonero 16-07-06, 02:30 AM I see lots of faviorism to Ac milan
there has to be a way to get empoli in
but oh well
becoz they arnt as guilty as others. Guilty of a meaningless 2 minute call between 2 friends.
How is Galliani guilty? He was head of Lega Calcio and didnt do anything about it.
Rossonero 16-07-06, 03:36 AM If you guys havent noticed,
No Derby Rome, no Derby d'Italia next season....only derby we have left is Derby Milano
CrazyReD 16-07-06, 03:45 AM maybe that's why he's guilty?
since he didn't do anything
anyway wasn't at the trial have no idea and don't really care my team is clean =D
Rossonero 16-07-06, 06:24 AM Your team is clean...i remember inter were dragged in the trial when it first begun.
Many Inter fans that I know in Italy dont want the Scudetti that will be stripped off from Juve.
CrazyReD 17-07-06, 02:31 AM yeah don't want it either
If inter win's it I'd rather they do it regardless of juve and the rest cheating or not
tottenham want's one of Italy's seats in the CL
Pineapple Thief 17-07-06, 02:36 AM LOL tottenham is stupid. I remember when Arsenal took 4th place in the Premiership Tottenham wanted a rematch of their last match of the season. Cause if they won they would have got 4th place, but they lost. The reason? Some of their played supposedly got food poisoning. :p idiots
Rossonero 17-07-06, 02:40 AM Heard what the Spurs want, stupid.
Anyways, Berlusconi said that the trial is not sports trial but is a political trial, that its all unfair etc and that it isnt fair to relegate Fiorontina and Lazio to Serie B
CrazyReD 17-07-06, 02:43 AM i feel bad for the viola but it's like the 2nd time they did
I can understand I guess why they are taking such a hard line and make examples out of these clubs
btw the FA are stupid tottenham had most of it's players food poisioned
Rossonero 17-07-06, 03:24 AM Yah and Arsenal were guilty of some other charges concerning the signing of African players but i dono what happend then.
Rossonero 26-07-06, 12:18 AM Juventus stay in B with –17pts. Lazio and Fiorentina back in A with 11 and 19 point deduction. Milan see their Serie A penalty reduced to 8 from 15. More to follow...
Pineapple Thief 26-07-06, 12:27 AM i feel bad for the viola but it's like the 2nd time they did
I can understand I guess why they are taking such a hard line and make examples out of these clubs
btw the FA are stupid tottenham had most of it's players food poisioned
Yah and Arsenal were guilty of some other charges concerning the signing of African players but i dono what happend then.
Y'all are just hataz :cool:
Rossonero 26-07-06, 12:28 AM Juventus' demotion to Serie B will stand but Lazio and Fiorentina are to remain in Serie A, the Italian federal court appeals tribunal announced on Tuesday evening.
The Bianconeri had originally been handed a 30-point Serie B deduction for the forthcoming campaign, but on appeal that has now been reduced to a 17-point penalty even if the demotion stands.
Lazio and Fiorentina, meanwhile, have been allowed to remain in Serie A, but will start with 11 and 19 point deductions.
Milan have been allowed to compete in the UEFA Champions League in the forthcoming campaign, although the Rossoneri start the coming season with an eight-point handicap.
More to follow...
Rossonero 26-07-06, 12:46 AM The Federal Court of Appeal has returned Fiorentina and Lazio to Serie A, while cut the points penalties for Juventus and Milan.
The Calciopoli appeal verdicts were finally delivered this evening with all four of the convicted clubs being handed reductions on their initial sentences.
Juventus have remained in Serie B but will start the 2006-07 season with a 17-point deduction rather than the initial 30 imposed.
The appeal panel also confirmed that they would be stripped of their last two Scudetto titles won in 2005 and 2006.
Lazio have been reinstated to the top flight after initially being thrown into the Second Division. They will start the new campaign with an 11-point penalty.
Fiorentina have followed them back into Serie A even if they will start the 2006-07 First Division campaign with a 19-point handicap.
Milan, who remained in Serie A anyway, will now start the new season with an eight-point deficit rather than the 15 imposed by the CAF court.
The Rossoneri, initially stripped of their Champions League place, will return to the competition even if they will have to play in the preliminaries.
That’s because their 44-point penalty from last season has been reduced to 30 which means they would have finished third behind Inter and Roma, while ahead of Chievo.
Palermo, Livorno and Parma are now set to take the UEFA Cup places.
*Chanel4
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Hoooraaaay CL
LosT_SouL 26-07-06, 02:45 AM The Federal Court of Appeal has returned Fiorentina and Lazio to Serie A, while cut the points penalties for Juventus and Milan.
The Calciopoli appeal verdicts were finally delivered this evening with all four of the convicted clubs being handed reductions on their initial sentences.
Juventus have remained in Serie B but will start the 2006-07 season with a 17-point deduction rather than the initial 30 imposed.
The appeal panel also confirmed that they would be stripped of their last two Scudetto titles won in 2005 and 2006.
Lazio have been reinstated to the top flight after initially being thrown into the Second Division. They will start the new campaign with an 11-point penalty.
Fiorentina have followed them back into Serie A even if they will start the 2006-07 First Division campaign with a 19-point handicap.
Milan, who remained in Serie A anyway, will now start the new season with an eight-point deficit rather than the 15 imposed by the CAF court.
The Rossoneri, initially stripped of their Champions League place, will return to the competition even if they will have to play in the preliminaries.
That’s because their 44-point penalty from last season has been reduced to 30 which means they would have finished third behind Inter and Roma, while ahead of Chievo.
Palermo, Livorno and Parma are now set to take the UEFA Cup places.
*Chanel4
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Hoooraaaay CL
wht happened to seria A ?!!!! no way i am gonna watch it this season :shy:
Rossonero 26-07-06, 02:54 AM Serie A is clean now...no more Cheatentus...
LosT_SouL 26-07-06, 03:00 AM Serie A is clean now...no more Cheatentus...
I'm not sure :think:
LosT_SouL 26-07-06, 03:04 AM Serie A is clean now...no more Cheatentus...
Others still undercover
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