View Full Version : Non-Muslims Being Ignored In The Sabla Events


fatak
02-07-06, 10:56 AM
I am simply saying the powers that be........should appreciate each member making the time and effort to make a voice on here.......

There has never been an award given to a non muslim member or for that matter most have been banned.........

Alot of the awards given for friends or cousins.....from the same uni or social circle.......

Many times the monthly awards were not earned at all......it makes the awards thing look childish.......and cliquie.
For example......Muscatii.....the best of the best for real deal Oman......yet nothing.,,,just because he is jewish.

sayid fatak

nosa
02-07-06, 12:49 PM
I am simply saying the powers that be........should appreciate each member making the time and effort to make a voice on here.......

There has never been an award given to a non muslim member or for that matter most have been banned.........

Alot of the awards given for friends or cousins.....from the same uni or social circle.......

Many times the monthly awards were not earned at all......it makes the awards thing look childish.......and clicy.....

For example......Muscatii.....the best of the best for real deal Oman......yet nothing.,,,just because he is jewish.

sayid fatak
i dun really think that's true.. i duno any1 n iv earned 3 awards..
if what u say is true then y did nico get an award? the ppl here r 100% NOT rasist.. that i know..

Oblivious
02-07-06, 01:36 PM
Fatak, not everything is a conspircay, dont try to turn to one..

NaBHaN
02-07-06, 08:33 PM
There has never been an award given to a non muslim member or for that matter most have been banned.........



Since you've been away , I would like to inform you that Sheikh El Tort recently recieved an award for his acitivity in the religion sabla.

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I personally usually pick a few non-muslim names when the time comes to nominate the best members of the month but You have to realize that my votes alone don't count and it's the majority that rules when it comes to these decisions. I also want to point out that most of the non muslim members stick to posting in the religion and politics sablas and kinda ignore the rest of the forum so it's hard for us to vote for members who only stick to one or two sections unless their activity in those areas were really really outstanding.

Tiny Heart
02-07-06, 08:53 PM
That's a weird statment fatak...
I havent noticed anything from what U've mentioned!!!


BTW, I thought Muscati was an Omani Female :p

MorphaKnight
02-07-06, 08:53 PM
there's also nicobambi.. he got an award too..

and where's my award?! i haven't been getting anything!

NicoBambi
02-07-06, 08:55 PM
i had to agree with fatak not a lot of non muslim have award but in the same time there is not A LOT of non muslim here and as nabs said they only post in a few section .. :rolleyes: (not all)
btw i got an award but not for being a good member but "A special award for excellent attitude display within the English Sabla"
so 2 or 3 non-muslim member have an award at least :)

Tiny Heart
02-07-06, 08:59 PM
If U C on that way...
Nabz is correct, U dont C much of them around the Sabla...
I dont think the Admin/Mod team is taking any sides here...
I guess whom ever deserves the award, will get it... no matter what..

amo_l_oman
02-07-06, 09:01 PM
What about fat old members, nothing ?

NicoBambi
02-07-06, 09:01 PM
there's also nicobambi.. he got an award too..

and where's my award?! i haven't been getting anything!
only best member's award :rolleyes:

Snooky
02-07-06, 09:04 PM
No I didnt notice anything like this, the awards are given fairly. Fatak your post is based on air.

amo_l_oman
02-07-06, 09:08 PM
Muscati had an award [fully deserved and to push him to get out of OF anyway] and he is Shiaaa !!!!
Can you believe it :D
One of these days we'll give to gays also

Abs
02-07-06, 09:09 PM
Non muslim members are always opening topics on what is wrong with Islam. Apart from that I dont see anything special from them.

So yes, it is right of them not getting any awards, simply coz they didnt earn it. Hell no, not even a nomination.

The special awards for a particular section is enough for them.

TripleTee
02-07-06, 09:17 PM
not the point of there not being anything special in them... of course they're special, they just need to be active in other sablas as well and that's all.
I personally think many of them are mature and great people and it's good to have them participating in this forum for all I know.

NicoBambi
02-07-06, 09:36 PM
Non muslim members are always opening topics on what is wrong with Islam. Apart from that I dont see anything special from them.

So yes, it is right of them not getting any awards, simply coz they didnt earn it. Hell no, not even a nomination.

The special awards for a particular section is enough for them.
do you have something against non-muslim ???:lift:

shamsery
02-07-06, 09:53 PM
There has never been an award given to a non muslim member or for that matter most have been banned.........

Alot of the awards given for friends or cousins.....from the same uni or social circle.......

sayid fatak
Mr.Fatak,
What is this?
Muslim , Non Muslim?
Majority participants are from the present generation and should be above of such sectarian attitude.

shamsery
02-07-06, 10:00 PM
Non muslim members are always opening topics on what is wrong with Islam.



What does it mean?
Are you admitting that there is wrong with Islam?
I don’t think so.
Followers of Islam don’t reply them with wisdom , that is the problem.

Oblivious
02-07-06, 11:31 PM
OMG! u ppl can't be serious!..

And Nico..how come u think this way?

I dunno what to say..but this is nonesense, and fatak...are u out of topics?

Oh please...

NicoBambi
02-07-06, 11:34 PM
And Nico..how come u think this way?

which way ???

Oblivious
02-07-06, 11:37 PM
i had to agree with fatak not a lot of non muslim have award but in the same time there is not A LOT of non muslim here and as nabs said they only post in a few section .. :rolleyes: (not all)
btw i got an award but not for being a good member but "A special award for excellent attitude display within the English Sabla"
so 2 or 3 non-muslim member have an award at least :)
^^ that way:(

TripleTee
02-07-06, 11:38 PM
Oblivious... how do you base your judgements?...

I think any foreigner who reads abs's reply will be insulted like nico has... with all respect to abs. but nico's got a point. I dunno if you came to this forum only recently or used to come as a guest before, but if you do you'll realize how many irrational arguments muslims and non-muslims have in religion and politics sabla. Especially since I'm sorry to say that the muslims in this forum still can't seem to argue in a sensible way.
so I don't think fatak or nico are speaking out of the blue.

Oblivious
02-07-06, 11:41 PM
Ok, are they talking about arguments or awards? bcoz if it's about arguments I agree with u.

TripleTee
02-07-06, 11:48 PM
it seems they're talking about both up there :os... but I was referring to arguments.
As for the awards, I guess my view in the matter was also above.
Non-muslims should also be active in other areas to be included, I believe that's logical.

Frozen Echo
03-07-06, 12:00 AM
and where's my award?! i haven't been getting anything!
You already have an award, I assumed //Edited

What about fat old members, nothing ?
You have two awards.


Edited by Thugy : Mind it!

NicoBambi
03-07-06, 12:02 AM
I think any foreigner who reads abs's reply will be insulted
you think ? :hmm:

ToomuchaT
03-07-06, 12:07 AM
I am simply saying the powers that be........should appreciate each member making the time and effort to make a voice on here.......

There has never been an award given to a non muslim member or for that matter most have been banned.........

Alot of the awards given for friends or cousins.....from the same uni or social circle.......

Many times the monthly awards were not earned at all......it makes the awards thing look childish.......and clicy.....

For example......Muscatii.....the best of the best for real deal Oman......yet nothing.,,,just because he is jewish.

sayid fatak


.. i just passed by ur post in the thread about sister Taiybah Almawali .. and u were wondering about the american influance on the omani authority.. ur observation above might be a good example for what sister Taiybah was claiming!! L:XD: L

TripleTee
03-07-06, 12:08 AM
you think ?

lol @ nico...
I know :p... I realize... I feel you... lol...
but since this thread's supposed to be about awards I guess so far so reasonable no?...
I'd like to see the non-muslims participate in other sablas :D... Nico you're there so far :p... so I hope the rest do that as well and earn further rewards... good luck ;)

NicoBambi
03-07-06, 12:13 AM
lol yeah and i dont post that much in politics and religion sabla ...

Thug4Life
03-07-06, 12:30 AM
I dont ignore non muslims specially those who respect us and respect the fact that they are welcomed Guests with us... :)

NaBHaN
03-07-06, 12:52 AM
Non muslim members are always opening topics on what is wrong with Islam. Apart from that I dont see anything special from them.

So yes, it is right of them not getting any awards, simply coz they didnt earn it. Hell no, not even a nomination.

The special awards for a particular section is enough for them.

That's a horrible thing to say.

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We nominate members according to their attitude and performance I don't care if they're jewish , christian or a buddhist..All I see is how they convey their opinion on this forum and how much I see of them around here. Everyone is welcomed over here..muslim and non muslim.

Dan1982
03-07-06, 01:17 AM
I appreciate the subject of this forum, but isn't the real point of this forum to exchange and develop ideas? Awards are fine, but that's not why I've joined and have been participating. I haven't been here long and I'm not a Muslim, but I've been impressed by the warmth and hospitality most of the members here.

I hope that non-Muslim members here do more than simply provide an antagonistic vent for the majority of members. Your post (abs) didn't seem in keeping with the general attitute of this forum.

By the way, I speak three languages but Arabic is not one of them. What does "sabla" mean? Does it mean discussion, talk, meeting, or something like that? I have no idea, it may not even be an Arabic word.

Lym
03-07-06, 01:23 AM
If non-Muslims members contributed to sabla as a whole, they would definitely be included in Sabla Events. The only reason, they're not, it is because they concentrate on one or two sections.

NaBHaN
03-07-06, 01:54 AM
Does it mean discussion, talk, meeting, or something like that? I have no idea, it may not even be an Arabic word.

It's a traditional name for a living room where different issues and topics are discussed. :)

CrazyReD
03-07-06, 02:21 AM
as nabs said shiek got an award more over he was nominated for one if he didn't win that can't be helped

btw didn't mimosa win an award b4?

welcome abroad dan

Miss G
03-07-06, 02:35 AM
oh my goodness.... i never even thought of anything like tht until u brought it up! & im pretty sure it has never crossed the minds of alot of the members here... sorry u feel tht way but im pretty sure none of the muslims here r racist of any religion... islam literally means "making peace" u know :)

perhaps the reason not many non-muslims get awards is bcus there rnt many of them, therefore there is a less chance of a non-muslim being awarded... its simple ratio/probability mathematics :)

hope u have no hard feelings 4 any1!

Dan1982
03-07-06, 03:20 AM
Thanks for the "sabla" translation (nabhan).

fatak
03-07-06, 03:29 AM
I dont ignore non muslims specially those who respect us and respect the fact that they are welcomed Guests with us... :)

See, this is exactly....what I mean........."welcomed guests"........of course I understand this is well meaning.......but sorry I am not a guest here.....

I am a registerd member.......of English Sablah, with equal status to you and everyone......

I think this is a typical Omani attitude........which again is well meaning, and of course I understand your thoughtfulness.......but I disagree.......

You should put in the rules.....

Non muslims are allowed "guest status"........not actually equal "member status".....as muslim members have.......

Respect in a 2 way street.......bro


Yo yo yo

sayid fatak

Oblivious
03-07-06, 03:32 AM
omg...how do u jus turn it this way...

I think u jus wanna make a fuzz!! we're sure u all aren't guests, if u aint sure it's ur prob! and thugy didnt mean it this way.

fatak
03-07-06, 03:35 AM
omg...how do u jus turn it this way...

I think u jus wanna make a fuzz!! we're sure u all aren't guests, if u aint sure it's ur prob! and thugy didnt mean it this way.

See......bring up some concern.......discuss it........it reminds me of walking into the Ministry of Public Works.......to the expat Indian worker.

Omani offical : I think u jus wanna make a fuzz!! we're sure u all aren't guests, if u aint sure it's ur prob!

Fatak

NicoBambi
03-07-06, 03:41 AM
it's turning into a fight between non-muslim and muslim :os
but fatak got a point here ....

Oblivious
03-07-06, 03:42 AM
oh...did u read my previous replies? or u jus wanna attack without even considering that I wanna make u get the situation...

And, It has nothing to do with ( Omani offical ) or wtever...

We do consider u all as a part of this forum...and, as Lym said, they should post in other sections..

And, I apologize if u got me wrong, even tho, i think u got wt i meant...stop attacking when u know ur wrong in thinking this way

fatak
03-07-06, 03:46 AM
oh...did u read my previous replies? or u jus wanna attack without even considering that I wanna make u get the situation...

And, It has nothing to do with ( Omani offical ) or wtever...

We do consider u all as a part of this forum...and, as Lym said, they should post in other sections..

And, I apologize if u got me wrong, even tho, i think u got wt i meant...stop attacking when u know ur wrong in thinking this way

Well.....let's see........Obliviouse.........you've been a member since June and you have an award......hmmmm, you must be amazing.....or maybe you are a just a cute female who the guys fancy......

There are other members on here for years, dear......

sayid fatak

Oblivious
03-07-06, 03:48 AM
I posted alot ! i dunno if u noticed, but i did, in all sections..

Plus, I thought u cant argue with muslim ladies, did u melt:p

Miss G
03-07-06, 03:55 AM
fatek man seriously just chill... its all good! :) no1 here is out 2 get u or any1 else... i think it's unfair tht ur twisting other members' words just bcus they werent politically correct... 4 example when Thug4Life said "guests" sure it may have sounded a bit wrong but u know perfectly well he didnt mean it tht way.... lighten up sweet heart :)

CrazyReD
03-07-06, 03:56 AM
ok let me ask a q

how does a member win an award? by votes

what can be done bout that force ppl to vote?

some have tried it in the past but whats worse now Fatak u accusing the awards i got was because ppl know me and i've got relatives and what not? bs man the time i won the best mod award i didn't have any relatives on board

and again what about mimosa winning i'm sure he won best member once

as for ur indian example here's a counter for it
if an indian claims that an omani did smthing to him the omani w/o being questioned or anything is guilty until proven innocent
and u talking bout expact heck expects got more rights then us and in our own country what a shame

everyone is welcomed here now why a member dosn't win an award thats beyond anyone's hand cause again it's determined by the numbre of votes a person gets

fatak
03-07-06, 04:13 AM
Yo.REd.no offense........but this is not about me........

I would like to know......why Mr. Shamsery, who has been on here for 4 years and almost 10,000 posts has no award......while the young thingies with their insighful comments on the soap products they use get awards after a few months......

Yeah true.....he doesn't make erevryone happy..but he makes a contribution.......

I rest my case

sayid fatak

pReTtY_sIcKo
03-07-06, 04:24 AM
mmm i like nico so much :D heheh n there is no diffrence betwen muslims n nonmuslims here the more u become active n all sections the more u wil b super member

peace

CrazyReD
03-07-06, 04:26 AM
well where does mr shamsery posts most in? politics and religion

if u notice that the members who win r members who post other area's
has ice tea ever won an award?
what about exxy?
nico?

actually i'm suprised that nico hasn't won yet he's a popular member

so why don't they win?

not enough votes

Miss G
03-07-06, 04:27 AM
u know i dont really think u have a strong case cuz i honestly dunno the religion of every person here.... but maybe its cuz im a "young thingy" :) but honestly wutever religion any1 is here its none of my business... bcuz the whole point of this sabla is 4 any1 2 come & express wutever it is they want 2... they dont have 2 let any1 know their gender or age, let alone their religion!
i assure u most ppl here dont vote 4 ppl according 2 their religion... their may be a few of those who r racist & express this ignorant feeling of theirs in the sabla, but they r always always given warnings abt this & eventually banned if they persist.
i have a question & plz answer honestly, even PM me if u have 2... r u genuinely upset abt this or r u just annoyed tht u havent received any awards?

toxic_honey
03-07-06, 04:57 AM
muslims and non muslims in here (in the end they r memebers not just guests)
well not beocz of anything but ..fatak comon! u dont post alot and most of ur post againts islam and u was banned 4 once! coz u posted a bad pix of muslims! and u wanna get an a word!!shhesh!!

i didnt get any awards! while am an active memeber! but i dont care!!
why would i?!! :os

in the end chill man!! and dont take it personal!
nico might be the only one from u ,jack ,moonchild and others who i dnna know ! deserve LOT of awards

he respect others,say whatever he wanna say but in a good way, honest, active and a good person over all :)
.................................
respect

NaBHaN
03-07-06, 05:02 AM
Racist comments and replies to it have been deleted. Looks like I'm going to have to lock this soon if people don't reply or contribute to the topic in a mature and respectful way.

Last chance.

Acid Fairy
03-07-06, 05:07 AM
I would like to know......why Mr. Shamsery, who has been on here for 4 years and almost 10,000 posts has no award......while the young thingies with their insighful comments on the soap products they use get awards after a few months......

Yeah true.....he doesn't make erevryone happy..but he makes a contribution.......

I rest my case

sayid fatak

I don't think the sabla discriminates between muslim and non-muslim members, but I kind of agree with you in this point.

NaBHaN
03-07-06, 05:35 AM
Shamsery is a muslim , so that contradicts your first post fatak.

CrazyReD
03-07-06, 05:52 AM
actually it contradicts this whole thread :)

fatak
03-07-06, 08:53 AM
muslims and non muslims in here (in the end they r memebers not just guests)
well not beocz of anything but ..fatak comon! u dont post alot and most of ur post againts islam and u was banned 4 once! coz u posted a bad pix of muslims! and u wanna get an a word!!shhesh!!

i didnt get any awards! while am an active memeber! but i dont care!!
why would i?!! :os

in the end chill man!! and dont take it personal!
nico might be the only one from u ,jack ,moonchild and others who i dnna know ! deserve LOT of awards

he respect others,say whatever he wanna say but in a good way, honest, active and a good person over all :)
.................................
respect


I challenge you to show me a post, just one......I mean one ......that is against Islam.......please find it.......

I have never been banned........never.....warned, yes.

I am using Mr. Shamsery as an example......as a member, who has for 5 years been making contributions......and half of them I really don't agree with but nevertheless......he gets no awards.

I suspect because he is Bangadeshi and not in the inner circles of the Starbuck's "In" crowd.........

Alot of non muslims gave up on this forum because they were attacked as anti Islam when simply they are trying to understand more about Islam.........it's the lack of some members to understand that non muslims may question and debate things in Islam which you yourself coming from Islamic culture find offensive......

BTW....Nabs fully deserves what he got, but still there is favortism that is non productive and discouraging to some of the older members.......


Sayid fatak

QuEeN
03-07-06, 09:31 AM
Hey ppl look it's not about muslims and non-muslims
it's about active and not active members
some members only participate in certain sections and ignore the others and mis-behave with people or open threads that cause a big fuss and hurt other people's feelings
so those don't really deserve the awadrs because their intentions are crystal clear
some deserve awadrs for being active in all sections and behaving well no matter who they are and what religion they belong to

Fatak i see you're acusing English Sabla of racism which is certainly not true :lift:

fatak
03-07-06, 09:55 AM
Well look at how many Non muslims got banned for insulting Islam or Omanis?

How many Omani members got banned for insulting non muslim members....?

I am not accusing English sabla.....of nothing........some of the members don't really deserve those awards.......period, because all their friends vote for them.

While others who don't have the "zanzi connection" get ignored.

sayid fatak

fatak
03-07-06, 10:19 AM
I take my words back.........

Warning for Ti3gib
The team have decided to issue ti3gib an official WARNING for this comment he made towards wudjab:

"Go mate with one of your fathers and shut up already ..."

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This decision was made because he was contacted a couple of days ago with a request to stop insulting members , especially the non muslim ones (which he did not even bother replying to) and as it seems he has no intention of leaving them in peace.

Ti3gib now has:

2 warnings and 1 Notice. 2 more notices or one warning will result in a ban for life.

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The English Sabla Administration.

Way to go crew.......!!!!!!!...although I don't really think I can made any sense of that insult anyway......mate with who?


sayid fatak

Abs
03-07-06, 12:19 PM
do you have something against non-muslim ???:lift:

Non-muslims like you are allright. I was referring to the ones who always seem to make a reason to attack Islam. They are the one's whom i despise, although I do appreciate their involvement in Sabla. Maybe beoble should read my posts more carefully and try to understand before jumping to conclusions.

Anywayz if I were to nominate any non muslim members for any awards, it would be either nicobambi or Shindoda or Mimosa(is he muslim?) or Jack simply coz they always post everywhere, not just politics or religion.

There, I spoke my mind again.......love it or hate it:cute:

Abs
03-07-06, 12:21 PM
Well look at how many Non muslims got banned for insulting Islam or Omanis?

How many Omani members got banned for insulting non muslim members....?

I am not accusing English sabla.....of nothing........some of the members don't really deserve those awards.......period, because all their friends vote for them.

While others who don't have the "zanzi connection" get ignored.

sayid fatak

You yourself once insulted our prophet (S.A.W) and you escaped a serious ban and simply got a warning. So thank your lucky stars and the "crew" that u're still posting here.

fatak
03-07-06, 12:25 PM
You yourself once insulted our prophet (S.A.W) and you escaped a serious ban and simply got a warning. So thank your lucky stars and the "crew" that u're still posting here.

That is totally 100% not true..........but you didn't get it from the start the debate I was trying to get people interested in.......cause you heated up like a 12 year old kid.......and let your emotions rule you.

In fact didn't you issue a death threat on me?

Please don't take the holy then thou attidute.....cause you a real arrogant prick sometimes, but I do do like reading your stuff.



sayid fatak

Abs
03-07-06, 12:37 PM
That is totally 100% not true..........but you didn't get it from the start the debate I was trying to get people interested in.......cause you heated up like a 12 year old kid.......and let your emotions rule you.

In fact didn't you issue a death threat on me?

Please don't take the holy then thou attidute.....cause you a real arrogant prick sometimes, but I do do like reading your stuff.



sayid fatak

Yes that is totally 100% true. Xpress will vouch for that coz she was the moderator at that time, that I complained. And I will heat even like a 5 year old kid once you say stupid things about our prophet :PBUH: because you have no right to come to an islamic culture forum and call names to our prohpet and critisize things that I believe he never did. Let's not go there anyway coz that will deviate this whole topic of this thread, which Im sure you are trying your best to since you realised you couldnt get what you wanted...;)

And no i dont remember issuing a death threat to you. Clear thy clogged memory.

And I admit Im arrogant with the prick, and I like it. I dont give a balls if you hate my attitude:)

Snooky
03-07-06, 12:41 PM
Way to go crew.......!!!!!!!...although I don't really think I can made any sense of that insult anyway......mate with who?
Errrr ... Are you cheering because he got warned for accusing a non-mslim member or for accusing in general ? Dude you're talking about this and refering to it as non sense and that it shouldnt be done, but you're the one whos creating this loath from nothing.
Fatak, not everything is a conspircay, dont try to turn it to one..
;)

UnKnown
03-07-06, 01:14 PM
While others who don't have the "zanzi connection" get ignored.


Reminds me of PDO and Nawras. :D

shamsery
03-07-06, 01:34 PM
Mr.Dan,
Sabla is an Omani dialect.
Came to know from Respected Arabian Princes.
Meaning has given by other member there.

shamsery
03-07-06, 01:49 PM
I would like to know......why Mr. Shamsery, who has been on here for 4 years and almost 10,000 posts has no award..
sayid fatak

Hi Dear Devil ,
Now you have really perturbed me.

Dear Mr.Fatak,
Let the hundred-flower blossom.
Let us well come the raising sun.
Future belongs to them.

Monkiette
03-07-06, 02:02 PM
Fatak! i already told you in zulfa's retirement thread.. aggghhh ... listen the only non-muslim that i see around in all area's is nicobambi.. and he has recieved an award cause he deserves it.. the other non muslims are only active in politics/religion sabla.. what are you suggesting that they just grt awards for doing NOTHING? non of them participate enough to get best member ( exept nic), they don't participate in any OF the contests.. so wht do you want? a free award just to show that ES isn't biased.. well excuse me but thats worse.

shamsery
03-07-06, 02:04 PM
well where does mr shamsery posts most in? politics and religion.

Request to you and every one.
Please don’t make me an issue.
I descried many times why I participate here.
I requested Mr.Fatak , whom I know as distinguished and mature participant , not to focus in such a way.
I support his right to express his feeling but the issue should handle in mature way.
Don’t allow feeling others are guest or outcast.
Please note editing and deleting is not the way to resolve the problem.

shamsery
03-07-06, 02:10 PM
Fatak! i already told you in zulfa's retirement thread.. aggghhh ... listen the only non-muslim that i see around in all area's is nicobambi.. and he has recieved an award cause he deserves it.. the other non muslims are only active in politics/religion sabla.. what are you suggesting that they just grt awards for doing NOTHING? non of them participate enough to get best member ( exept nic), they don't participate in any OF the contests.. so wht do you want? a free award just to show that ES isn't biased.. well excuse me but thats worse.

Apologize, You leading the issue to the controversy and debate.

Ichigo
03-07-06, 02:16 PM
For example......Muscatii.....the best of the best for real deal Oman......yet nothing.,,,just because he is jewish.

and how did u decide the best???:think:

Oblivious
03-07-06, 02:18 PM
shamsery I'm not making an issue, but aint u a muslim?
Well, this is the thing..I, personally, dont notice usually who's muslim and who's not

Fatak, please...u jus saw how the replies went, we all dont see it this way, and i think if the mods do, they wouldnt have kept u as members, i dont think they love these types of arguments right? its their forum, why do they wanna ruin it ?

it's not about muslim and non-muslim, its about being active, so please....i'll say it again, it's not a conspircay, so dont turn it into one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TripleTee
03-07-06, 02:18 PM
I suggest we leave the "who got banned who got warned" thing and concentrate on the procedure of how the awards are given before this turns into another muslim/non-muslim argument.
I understand what fatak's on about and I understand the answers he got.
if I were to speak my mind I'd list down the points I think are true:

-votings can hardly be made fair and members do vote for their friends or relatives...etc. ... perhaps only those who don't know who's who would vote for the ones they think is best. A fact... face it!
-muslims and non-muslims aren't discriminated according to the mods cuz by knowing some of them hardly anyone in the moderation team is a non-muslim hunter. They are however disrespected when it comes to some of the members around, especially when getting into heated religious discussions.
-Those who've been posting for ages in certain sections and didn't get any awards should be taken into account and dealt with somehow. Cuz I think in this, fatak's argument can be understood.

But here's why they received nothing fatak... not discrimination, rather:
the awards given are earned by first: a member's contribution all over the sabla. Second: How much the member's loved by the other members in order to get their votes.
Next it is if the crowd don't vote for what can be considered the right person... it's democracy... like how wrong it is for the USA to vote for Bush again!... democracy is not always right but it's how things work. Otherwise a suggestion should be made of how you all think it should work.

over all, here's the deal... the awards are for best member, best combo...etc. those type of awards are generally speaking. If the mods see the non-muslims paricipating in other sections, they'll by all means be included fatak cuz then the reason of the award would apply to them.

lastly, if some feel that despite their activity in certain sablas they're not appreciated for it. I suggest there should be special awards for the best members according to certain sablas, singularly... and not generally speaking. So no one would feel left out.

For the rest, quit the religious arguments and get to the point..

fatak
03-07-06, 03:18 PM
Now this is getting interesting...........I think this is really the best thing.......cause man, I ain't good at chewing the fat on what to wear to the mall or MTV stuff.......

"lastly, if some feel that despite their activity in certain sablas they're not appreciated for it. I suggest there should be special awards for the best members according to certain sablas, singularly... and not generally speaking. So no one would feel left out."

In any case.......my intentions are to improve the sabla for the benefit of all and make the old timers feel more respected.......as it is now a new member pops on and after 200 posts..wammo, the sabla boys go nuts......and give her an award..please!!!!!

Also, I don't know any non muslims......who are intentionally just getting on an Islamic site to cause trouble......maybe a few, but have you thought that many come here to learn more and see what muslims are thinking about things?

Oh well.......at least ABS isn't getting bored.....

sayid fatak

Snooky
03-07-06, 03:19 PM
^^ Stop it already, you're getting boring, you were intersting at first.

shamsery
03-07-06, 03:51 PM
^^ Stop it already, you're getting boring, you were intersting at first.

Please allow clearing the smoke.
Let us talk.
I think the issue is delicate.
If you are disgusted with my post, yes , I can stop posting.
Shall go back to gallery to watch your communication.
If you mean Mr.Fatak, I support his right to speak.
I have no comments about others.

ToomuchaT
03-07-06, 04:13 PM
Warning for Ti3gib
The team have decided to issue ti3gib an official WARNING for this comment he made towards wudjab:

"Go mate with one of your fathers and shut up already ..."

.. why did moderators quote ti3gib offense, while they dont do it with non-muslims?

what they always say, if they want to issue a warning or a notice, he/she insulted a member in one of his/her replies without sayin how or what was the insult!! but with ti3gib they even quoted the insult??

.. see the rule was not applied fairly on members!! .. do u think that fair??


.. anyway, this is the funniest thread ever.. keep it coming guyz :D

.. Thug seems forgot his good sayin.. come on @ this is a forum not a country @ LOOOL

Lym
03-07-06, 04:26 PM
-muslims and non-muslims aren't discriminated according to the mods cuz by knowing some of them hardly anyone in the moderation team is a non-muslim hunter. They are however disrespected when it comes to some of the members around, especially when getting into heated religious discussions.

I do see this in the religion sabla, but it is both ways. A lot of Muslims disrespect and criticize the Non-Muslims, but the same is happening the other way around. I go around editing equally as much between the Muslims and Non-Muslims members.

However, Moderators all around try to be fair because we know Non-Muslims are in the minority and it's not nice to be attacked by tons of Muslims :os

Chatty, you don't know how many Non-Muslims are issued with official notices and warnings. Not everything is done publicly btw, so you can't accuse us of being unfair but perhaps that's the perception you get, but reality is otherwise.

fatak
03-07-06, 04:27 PM
^^ Stop it already, you're getting boring, you were intersting at first.

Well since your attention span is about 30 seconds tops, I will take that as a complement........since when is everyone not agreeing such a bad thing..........

If you ain't rocking the boat, you ain't rowing hard enough.......

sayid fatak

shamsery
03-07-06, 04:30 PM
first: a member's contribution all over the sabla.
Second: How much the member's loved by the other members in order to get their votes. Posted by TripleTee.

I was never interested to know how the members were chosen to decorate award.
Yes it’s an honor.
If the above statement is correct and this is the editorial policy of English Sabla , the thing is simple.
1. Those who are not participating in different sub sabla can’t be taken to the consideration.
2nd. If the criteria is vote of members, issue is over. No vote no awards.

fatak
03-07-06, 04:32 PM
it's not nice to be attacked by tons of Muslims :os

Yeah.......like when I was in Second Cup, and all these girls were asking for my cell number.....I thought I was a goner......

Sometimes can't be helped........cause Islamic practices are outlawed in most western countries.......like

1. marrying more then one wife
2. killing someone who changes their religion

So for non muslims it's just a crime.......and for muslims not.

Anyway.......I predicte this thread will be closed soon.........

sayid fatak

Oblivious
03-07-06, 04:35 PM
fatak...jus tell me, wt does this last post u made have to do with this thread?

ToomuchaT
03-07-06, 04:36 PM
Not everything is done publicly btw, so you can't accuse us of being unfair but perhaps that's the perception you get, but reality is otherwise.

.. lol Lym .. i guesss reality is what i see!! and im talking about what i see!!

.. what goes over there simply, none of my bussiness!! :)

.. anyway, i wasnt to raise a point nor a problem .. i was just tryin to pass a message which is the same as thig used to say, this is a forum not a country.. so not worth it to burn fuel for free! :)

.. thnx :)

Lym
03-07-06, 04:38 PM
Agreed but just clearing up a misconception :)

fatak
03-07-06, 04:39 PM
fatak...jus tell me, wt does this last post u made have to do with this thread?

Try to think out of the BOX......sometimes will ya?

I gotta explain everything?

BTW.I didn't open this thread......can you believe that?
It just appeared.......out of nowhere.

sayid fatak

Oblivious
03-07-06, 04:43 PM
well, u'll know am not asking u to explain, if YOU think out of the box! it's not a war against non-muslims..uh..anyway, why bother. I think i've tried enough.

Thanx anyways.

Thug4Life
03-07-06, 05:03 PM
and fatak prediction is right :D

me Lock! much of non sense flammes around
...special awards...well we already started that and first one who got it was Sheikh :P////

End of story...
Now why banned..who banned...why warned...when warned...wont add much to this thread nore suggested anything new or good to it!!!

Viva Thugy :D