"They are killing Sunnis. Looting,"
"It has become a gang of thugs.”
“ Sadr has lost control."
Said a defense official briefed on the Mahdi Army's growing violence.
Reported by THE WASHINGTON TIMES, June 28, 2006.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060627-112126-4202r.htm

Oh , Iraqi Sunni is against occupation, so they are terrorist.
Iraqi Shi’ite against occupation so there 'gang of thugs'
They are Iranian agents?
(*Fortunately there is no comment about Iraqi Christian. )
Note: American soldiers killed hundreds of Sheik al-Sadr's armed followers in 2004.

i dont see the point of this thread. it does state the situation in iraq, but is there a debate?

Iraqi Sunni are terrorist.
Part of Iraqi Shi’te Mr.Sadar and his followers, vocal against US occupation are gang of thugs.
Then who are good and patriotic Iraqi’s, that is the question.

Iraqi Sunni are terrorist.
Part of Iraqi Shi’te Mr.Sadar and his followers, vocal against US occupation are gang of thugs.
Then who are good and patriotic Iraqi’s, that is the question.

The good and patriotic Iraqis are hardworking muslims who voted for a government.

They have lived thru hell......created by bad muslims.......Shia and Sunni......and Al qaeda foreign fighters......

The future of Iraq will be judged on how the waring sects mend their ways for the greater good of the Iraqi people......

sayid fatak

The good and patriotic Iraqis are hardworking muslims who voted for a government.

sayid fatak

Thanks, let us interpret your point, those who welcomed and participated in invaders program to put so-called legitimacy to the installed puppet Government is good Iraqi.

Hope it is clear.

Iraqi Sunni are terrorist.
Part of Iraqi Shi’te Mr.Sadar and his followers, vocal against US occupation are gang of thugs.
Then who are good and patriotic Iraqi’s, that is the question.

mmm try this :color:

Sunni - (alqaida + salafi groups) + Shia - (sadr groups) = Good and Patriotic Iraqis :6:

Well then who are they?

hahaha...I agree.

Well then who are they?

so many man.. not all shia are sard's followers.. lets make it this way for most shia for example.. United Iraqi Allience - Sard Followers.. tht includes many many groups.. and also remember those normal people who refuse to join a specific group.. LIKE ME :color:

same for sunna muslims.. OF COURSE not all sunna are wahabis or salafis! of course not.. and be sure of the fact that Baath party is using the salafi group and alqaeda to fight with them as a paper to play with.. once baath party get back to political life OR get destroyed for ever.. they will have no place to live in.. my person view of the view is that baath party will come back again as others.. maybe with another name.. at that time.. u will find ppl kicking out al qaeda coz no one will support their stay.. i dont care if we all screem against iraqi sunna.. after all i know very well how far their ideas are from the salafi groups.

and i didnt start talking about el sifuya, christians, subba, kurds etc

Who are the good and patriotic Iraqis?

Sham,

How can 8 million voters install a puppet government?

They voted for who they wanted

They were not told who to vote for

One question for now,
Under occupation , is it possible to conduct any election ?

Shamsery has a valid point. you cant have fair elections under military ocupation. anyone who thinks that the US military had no role to play in the process is a bit naive. US operations in Sunni areas were on full throutle during the elections and the 2 weeks leading to it. this caused huge disruptions with the elections. if youre driven out of your own city/town by the fighting (as the case with many sunnis), then you cant vote.

Thanks Respected Draconus,
Was there any census?
How you could know what is present population?

Thanks Respected Draconus,
To conduct an election you need a genuine voter list.
Was it there?
Many more questions are there.

Sham,

7000 candidates were up for 275 seats

Please tell me:

a) How the US managed to persuade all of these 7000 to try and get elected?

or

b) How the US managed to tell every single voter who they should vote for?

Thanks

Sham,

7000 candidates were up for 275 seats

Please tell me:

a) How the US managed to persuade all of these 7000 to try and get elected?

or

b) How the US managed to tell every single voter who they should vote for?

Thanks

To conduct an election you need a genuine voter list.
Was it there?

Did you read this post?

mr pinnochio,
Few month back posted a thread on the engagement of an American private company who will look to the American interest and will mold the election result as US wants.
US Government paid them few million dollars as fees.
Can you and other member remember that?

What voter list was in use under Saddam - you know in the elections where he won 99.99 % of the vote ?

THE REGISTRATION PROCESS

The tight timetable combined with the violence in places like Falluja thwarted any suggestion of conducting a proper census of Iraq's estimated 12 million voters. Instead, electoral rolls based on the United Nations "Oil for Food" lists - drawn up in the 1990s by Saddam Hussein's regime, have been used. Voters were able to see the lists to make corrections and revisions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4033263.stm#registration

What voter list was in use under Saddam [/url]

The same voter list Mr. Bush used.

Thats good. This was approved by the UN and if it worked for Saddam it should be fine.

Thats good. This was approved by the UN and if it worked for Saddam it should be fine.

That list made by Saddam was not correct also.
Anyway,

Soccer Mr.Wudjab
Italy vs Germany
Good bye for now.

More than 15 million Iraqis were eligible to vote

Each voter was required to produce an identification document at the designated polling centre.

Iraq's expatriate community of around 3m was also eligible to vote

7000 candidates were up for 275 seats

Please tell me:

a) Of the 7000 people who attempted to get elected, how did the CIA manage to talk to every single one of them - and then persuade every single one of them to be pro US (if elected)?

b) How did the CIA manage to speak to every single person eligible to vote - and then persuade all of them to vote for certain candidates?

Its truly amazing

Not amazing Mr. Fatak.
To run a free election there are few preconditions.
That can’t be fulfill under occupation.
It is very simple.