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wudjab
23-06-06, 11:41 PM
This was a Fatwa issued by by Haj Amin al-Husseini


In the name of Merciful and Almighty God.

I invite all my Moslem brothers throughout the whole world to join in the Holy War for God, for the defense of Islam and her lands against her enemy. O Faithful, obey and respond to my call.

O Moslems!

Proud 'Iraq has placed herself in the vanguard of this Holy Struggle, and has thrown herself against the strongest enemy of Islam certain that God will grant her victory.

The enemy has tried to seize this Arab-Moslem land, but she has risen, full of dignity and pride to defend her safety, to fight for her honor and to safeguard her integrity. 'Iraq fights the tyranny which has always had as its aim the destruction of Islam in every land. It is the duty of all Moslems to aid 'Iraq in her struggle and to seek every means to fight the enemy, the traditional traitor in every age and every situation.

Whoever knows the history of the East has everywhere seen the hand of the enemy working to divide the Arab countries. Our enemy politics toward the Arab people is masked under a veil of Hypocrisy. The minute she sees her chance, the enemy squeezes the prostrate country in her Imperialist grasp, adding futile justifications. She creates discord and division within a country and while feeding it in secret openly she assumes the role of advisor and trusted friend. The time when the enemy could deceive the peoples of the East is passed. The Arab Nation and the Moslem people have awakened to fight the domination. In Palestine the enemy have committed unheard of barbarisms; among others, they have profaned the el-Aqsa Mosque and have declared the most unyielding war against Islam, both in deed and in word.

Therefore I invite you, O Brothers, to join in the War for God to preserve Islam, your independence and your lands from enemy aggression. I invite you to bring all your weight to bear in helping 'Iraq that she may throw off the shame that torments her. O Heroic 'Iraq, God is with Thee, the Arab Nation and the Moslem World are solidly with Thee in Thy Holy Struggle!


What do you think of this fatwa ?

shamsery
24-06-06, 12:05 AM
Iraqis are fighting against US occupation.
It is not war for religion.

shamsery
24-06-06, 12:10 AM
This was a Fatwa issued by by Haj Amin al-Husseini


In the name of Merciful and Almighty God.

I invite all my Moslem brothers throughout the whole world to join in the Holy War for God, for the defense of Islam and her lands against her enemy. O Faithful, obey and respond to my call.

O Moslems!

Proud 'Iraq has placed herself in the vanguard of this Holy Struggle, and has thrown herself against the strongest enemy of Islam certain that God will grant her victory.

The enemy has tried to seize this Arab-Moslem land, but she has risen, full of dignity and pride to defend her safety, to fight for her honor and to safeguard her integrity. 'Iraq fights the tyranny which has always had as its aim the destruction of Islam in every land. It is the duty of all Moslems to aid 'Iraq in her struggle and to seek every means to fight the enemy, the traditional traitor in every age and every situation.

Whoever knows the history of the East has everywhere seen the hand of the enemy working to divide the Arab countries. Our enemy politics toward the Arab people is masked under a veil of Hypocrisy. The minute she sees her chance, the enemy squeezes the prostrate country in her Imperialist grasp, adding futile justifications. She creates discord and division within a country and while feeding it in secret openly she assumes the role of advisor and trusted friend. The time when the enemy could deceive the peoples of the East is passed. The Arab Nation and the Moslem people have awakened to fight the domination. In Palestine the enemy have committed unheard of barbarisms; among others, they have profaned the el-Aqsa Mosque and have declared the most unyielding war against Islam, both in deed and in word.

Therefore I invite you, O Brothers, to join in the War for God to preserve Islam, your independence and your lands from enemy aggression. I invite you to bring all your weight to bear in helping 'Iraq that she may throw off the shame that torments her. O Heroic 'Iraq, God is with Thee, the Arab Nation and the Moslem World are solidly with Thee in Thy Holy Struggle!


What do you think of this fatwa ?

You the people are enjoying some type of walkover.

Anyway, is this drafted by you or someone else?

No link, no description about Haj Amin al-Husseini , but some truth is there.

What dose it mean by The Arab Nation ?
Is there anything called The Arab Nation ?

It is true, oppressed people by the US have awakened to fight the domination.

wudjab
24-06-06, 12:12 AM
My question was quite simple.

What do you think of the fatwa ?

shamsery
24-06-06, 12:17 AM
First prove it is a fatwa ?

wudjab
24-06-06, 12:43 AM
It is a fatwa, trust me on that.

I will give you more information on it shortly, but till then, what is your opinion on it ?

Draconus
24-06-06, 01:10 AM
people dont need no fatwa to defend themselves.

shamsery
24-06-06, 01:10 AM
It is a fatwa, trust me on that.

I will give you more information on it shortly, but till then, what is your opinion on it ?


He is simply an idiot.
Such fatwa can’t be issued by competent authority.
Remember, turban, long beard or long clothe up to ankle dose not give one the legitimacy to issue fatwa.

wudjab
24-06-06, 01:17 AM
You are missing the entire point, probably intentionally.

The issue is not whether he is competent to issue a fatwa or not.

The issue, what do you think of his opinion regarding invaders in Iraq and the Islamic duty to kick them out ?

shamsery
24-06-06, 01:24 AM
Mr.Wudjab,
I have no idea about this Mr. Haj Amin al-Husseini.
Have no idea how he got the authority to issue Fatwa?
The whole text is not uncontroversial.
Who translated it?

shamsery
24-06-06, 01:32 AM
You are missing the entire point, probably intentionally.

The issue is not whether he is competent to issue a fatwa or not.

The issue, what do you think of his opinion regarding invaders in Iraq and the Islamic duty to kick them out ?

You know, I am against of US occupation.
Iraqis are fighting against invaders for the political emancipation, territorial freedom.
In a brief, fighting for sovereignty.
It has nothing to do with Islam or Muslim.
It’s a nationalist movement.

wudjab
24-06-06, 01:39 AM
This fatwa was issued in 1941 - against the British.

The word ENGLISH was replaced with ENEMY.

Doesn't the whole fatwa sound like it could have been issued yesterday ?

Obviously things don't change much in fatwa land.

shamsery
24-06-06, 02:01 AM
This is 2006.
Scenario is different.
In 1941, no one fought for Islam or today, no one fighting for Islam.
Only the truth for ME is:

Our enemy politics toward the Arab people is masked under a veil of Hypocrisy.

wudjab
24-06-06, 02:12 AM
No it is not.

If Zarqawi had issued this fatwa one month ago, word for word, it would have passed.

shamsery
24-06-06, 02:21 AM
No it is not.

If Zarqawi had issued this fatwa one month ago, word for word, it would have passed.
No , there was no chance to accept.

amo_l_oman
25-06-06, 12:50 PM
Therefore I invite you, O Brothers, to join in the War for God to preserve Islam, your independence and your lands from enemy aggression. I invite you to bring all your weight to bear in helping 'Iraq that she may throw off the shame that torments her. O Heroic 'Iraq, God is with Thee, the Arab Nation and the Moslem World are solidly with Thee in Thy Holy Struggle!


What do you think of this fatwa ?For the time being i cannot move from the Sultanate
my weight might go there in future though

QuEeN
25-06-06, 01:03 PM
Why should i care?
It's not Allah's word or Muhammad's word why should i care? that's his own opinion and his personal invitation not a fatwa
and if it's a fatwa he's responsible for it and for its results when he meets god

shamsery
25-06-06, 01:22 PM
Why should i care?
It's not Allah's word or Muhammad's word why should i care? that's his own opinion and his personal invitation not a fatwa
and if it's a fatwa he's responsible for it and for its results when he meets god


I appreciate your comments.

IraqSpirit
02-07-06, 03:34 AM
you really spend too much time reading and collecting these words, which i might describe as nonsense


Haj Amin al-Husseini


From his last name, maybe some people are trying to point at the fact that he is a Shia Imam and he is giving a Fatwa.. i might say that what is written there has no affect or meaning on anybody for the simple reason which is.. HE IS NOT a Marje3.. in other words he can not give a fatwa.. and specially to the Shia, they all know very well that everybody is banned from giving a Fatwa other than well known maraje3 like saed ali alsistani and sayed khamiai etc

what this man say if case he is a real person! is nothing.. and those words in best cases can be nothing more than a letter to the arabs.. but can NEVER be a Fatwa.. i hope the member who posted this can actually know the difference between a letter and a Fatwa? and who can actually give the Fatwa?

IraqSpirit
02-07-06, 03:38 AM
Why should i care?
It's not Allah's word or Muhammad's word why should i care? that's his own opinion and his personal invitation not a fatwa
and if it's a fatwa he's responsible for it and for its results when he meets god

:candy: I can agree no more!

shamsery
02-07-06, 03:42 AM
i hope the member who posted this can actually know the difference between a letter and a Fatwa? and who can actually give the Fatwa?

He never cares . :6: :6: :6:

Oblivious
02-07-06, 03:43 AM
Do u really think this is a fatwa? did u really spend time on it?

And, I second Iraqspirit, about the last name thing...I've never heard of this man, and..we can't consider it as a fatwa jus because U say it is.

Phat
02-07-06, 03:51 AM
Fatwa u say ? Ha !

Its not like Quran or something holy to obey, therefore I dont care if this muggin is having a problem running thru his head, besides its not like people can't defend themselves, why making this as "fatwa" his invitation is quite stupid though...

shamsery
02-07-06, 04:07 AM
Do u really think this is a fatwa?
Surprisingly the initiator was not asked for link or source.

This fatwa was issued in 1941 - against the British.

The word ENGLISH was replaced with ENEMY.


Only the competent authority can change the ruling.
No one else.

Snooky
03-07-06, 03:04 PM
Roflmao .

shamsery
03-07-06, 03:08 PM
Roflmao .

What does it mean please?

Snooky
03-07-06, 03:13 PM
Rolling on floor laughing my *** off <--- The initials of this sentence.

shamsery
03-07-06, 03:37 PM
Well Sir,
What makes you Roflmao ?