View Full Version : Marrying non-omanis (yup, another one!)


Nouna7
09-05-06, 03:52 PM
Hello,

I know there this is a topic that's been discussed many times over. Could someone who personally
went through the 'getting permission' process help me out here? I have been in a relationship with an Omani man
for over 3 years. We have yet to marry as I am non-Omani, non-GCC, but Arab but race. He knows he has to
get permission and is trying to figure out the best way to go about doing it.

I've read just about all the material i can get a hold of on the net. I either find people who say its impossible to get permission
unless through wasta or that its not as hard as it appears. Perhaps somone who went through the process could outline what exactly
happened so we could have a better idea of reality.

I feel incredibly guilty because this is such a frustrating situation for both of us. I would back off if I it were a totally hopeless because
I couldn't live with myself knowing he would be heavily penalized. The fact that the there is a provision allowing for marriage (as long as permission
is granted) does make me have hope though. I have to have faith in that possibility.

I am not currently residing in Oman (though i have visited, and fell in love with the country - it is impossible to not adore the country!!). I would be more than grateful if someone could just clarify everything/anything based upon what really happens and not just speculation.

I respect the rule of law (lol, I have to, I studied law), but feelings and emotions are more of a cloudy territory. Inevitable when you care so much for someone.
:help:

Lym
09-05-06, 03:59 PM
I'm so sorry :os

I don't know the exact procedures, but I'm sure other members such as X-Press may know for she is non-Omani who married an Omani, so I guess there is hope. I just know that it is a long long tedious process and as anything else, it can be granted faster if you've wasta :o

Libellula
09-05-06, 08:31 PM
I know that you have to get permission in order to marry a foreigner, but I wasn't aware that it was such a long and difficult procedure.

Can the government actually prevent a couple from marrying? :s

As Lym said, I hope one of the sabla members will be able to enlighten us on this issue. :)

MorphaKnight
09-05-06, 09:02 PM
it also definetly goes against the islamic law to prohibit the couple from marrying..

I'm non omani,(strangely enough that makes me feel as if im not arab 0_o) if it were upto me, id go to las vegas and get married in one of them small chapels :p

HITMAN
10-05-06, 01:05 AM
The man who is willing to marry you should go to the Ministry of Interior & submit the file for marrying a non-Omani & submit a well written letter with it adressed to his exellency asking for the permission

It takes time, but you dont need wasta for it unless you are in a hurry & cant wait for the whole process to take its own time

Best of luck & dont forget to send me your wedding's invitation card

Let me know if I can help you any further

Salaam

Libellula
10-05-06, 01:14 AM
I think it's ridiculous that the government should have any say in who you marry. I've always thought of marriage as a personal choice.

What if you get married out of Oman? Would the government then recognize it as a legal marriage, or would you still have to apply for some sort of permission?

HITMAN
10-05-06, 01:16 AM
Libellula, I agree with MoI

Otherwise things will get out of the control & eventually its the country that will handle all the hassle

Orion
10-05-06, 02:26 AM
You can marry a foreigner, however many things are taken into account:

1) Your age/gender
2) Your likelihood to find an Omani spouse (for whatever personal reasons you can't)
3) Where you lived most of your life (in Oman or abroad)
4) Your requested spouse-to-be Nationality/Ethnicity (as you can imagine Arab/Muslim is prefered).
5) Your financial stability.

+ Vitamin W ...

In this instance, if you are very 'foreign' yourself or well travelled, well connected, or have certain difficulties (medical/social/etc) find a local spouse you can make a request through the proper channels.

I know this because one of my siblings married a foreigner (Arab/Muslim) almost 3 years ago ... and that's some of the indicators they look at.

Hope that helps!

Nouna7
10-05-06, 07:07 AM
Thanks for some clarification. I was starting to think this was a lost cause because my fiance has been telling me that he's met someone who actually had permission granted (apparently it has an 'expiry date') and that particular someone knew how hard it is to obtain..and decided to capitalise on this. He was offering it for a huge amount of money (though on paper the foreigner would appear married to him).

I just think its ridiculous when it comes to this point. Someone else told me that he should go to the Ministry every single day (upon sending in the application) just to show his face till they get so sick of him and just deal with it. Lol, i have heard hilarious yet strange advise (e.g. he should show up
slightly mentally conked..he should forge medical documents to say he's infertile..). Its like searching for the holy grail somehow.

Also, another question - say on the first try your application gets rejected..can you apply again or are you blacklisted by then?

Arabian Princess
10-05-06, 11:15 PM
He was offering it for a huge amount of money (though on paper the foreigner would appear married to him).

let him be away of those frauds, some people just use others needs to get money!!

I dont think its impossible and like Hitman said, it takes time but at the end if you have patience you would get permission.

You see, lots of neighbouring countries are suffering because the door to marry forigners is open .. UAE is one, and lots of thier girls stay unmarried because the guys dont want to marry from UAE, while the culture is very strict towards girls. They are just trying to create balance.

I think he should write the letter, and inshallah everything would go on well.

Libellula
11-05-06, 01:05 AM
I heard the law has changed when it comes to marrying GCC nationals. I heard something about not having to ask for permission if the person is from within the GCC region.

Is this true?

Lym
11-05-06, 01:12 AM
^^ yes, it is :)

nana
15-05-06, 09:34 AM
I dont understand why is everybody agreeing with this issue... well we tend to forget the Most important point here that we are muslims and that we have to believe that death,life and marriage is all written by allah.. so even if an omani wants to marry an omani but they werent meant to be then it's not going to happen...
I myself have doubts on the rules or conditions that allow omanis to marry to non omanis....what i know is that the omani will be given the permission if he/she:

1) 30+ years old.
or
2)disabled( handicapped)
now this may seem fair to those who dont fall into the above categories.... but UNFAIR to the disabled and whom are over 30 yrs old.lets take this simple example.... a handicapped omani man gets the permission to marry non omani lady, she accepts him and they are married now... now who can ensure that they wont have problems... and in the first problem they face the lady would humiliate the omani by saying harmful words to him like if you were good enough you wouldnt be granted the permission to marry outside....that would be really mean.
this law is neglacting the people with disabilities rights and doesnt concern their feelings.... i think it's about time for our country to take good care of these people as they can be more productive than the ones without the disabilities.... they need the chance and we have to give them the opportunity to prove that to us...

nana
15-05-06, 09:38 AM
You see, lots of neighbouring countries are suffering because the door to marry forigners is open .. UAE is one, and lots of thier girls stay unmarried because the guys dont want to marry from UAE, while the culture is very strict towards girls. They are just trying to create balance.

I think he should write the letter, and inshallah everything would go on well.


Do you really believe in this AP. come on AP dont you think that allah has already written for every1 his destiny.... i think there are going to be problems whether they marry UAE nationals or not..... in fact their Sheikh was married to non -uae nationals...

nana
15-05-06, 09:43 AM
Libellula, I agree with MoI

Otherwise things will get out of the control & eventually its the country that will handle all the hassle

sorry HM can you please tell me how can a country get out of control by allowing such marriages....

just to point out something that i have seen many times that young omanis going out ( sleeping around) with non- omanis if i may say... i mean this law makes them forbidden actions... well they cant marry them so they sleep around with them...Dont you think now the country is going bye bye

Hero
15-05-06, 01:29 PM
So if you are less than 30 years of age and not disabled, your application won't be accepted. This seems to be double standard!
Instead of getting married in Oman, can't the couple get married in another country? and would that still require a premission?

nana
16-05-06, 08:42 AM
So if you are less than 30 years of age and not disabled, your application won't be accepted. This seems to be double standard!
Instead of getting married in Oman, can't the couple get married in another country? and would that still require a premission?

well i know few people who have done that.... but then i dont know what are the consequences...

Arabian Princess
18-05-06, 01:09 PM
Do you really believe in this AP. come on AP dont you think that allah has already written for every1 his destiny.... i think there are going to be problems whether they marry UAE nationals or not..... in fact their Sheikh was married to non -uae nationals...

every on has thier distieny and this is why its not completely forbiden, you can get married if you have the permission. I dont care about thier shiekh, I am just bringing an example of a country where marrying forigners was ok and now they are suffering the consequences.

Libellula
18-05-06, 05:00 PM
I think it's unfair for a government to prevent its citizens from marring non-nationals. People should have options, and they should be able to make their own choices.

For instance, in the UAE whether or not more women are left unmarried, the men have the right to choose who they want to marry. If they personally prefer a foreigner, then that's just too bad for the local women. It's not right to limit their options and practically force them to marry only the locals.

I think that this law should change in Oman and everyone should be allowed to marry whoever they want.

I don't see how it'll cause chaos. There will still be a lof of people who would rather marry those from Oman, but then those who don't want to marry Omanis will have the benefit of marrying foreigners without having to go through the hassle of asking for permission. At least they won't feel restricted.

Does the law differ whether it's a woman or a man? For instance if it's an Omani woman who wants to marry a foreigner, do the same conditions apply? (30+ and disabled)

5alfanooh
18-05-06, 05:05 PM
these rules are there to save Omani ladies from being Single! but i dont know why U young Omani Gurls are not Appreciating it!

NANOU
24-05-06, 02:00 AM
It Was Hard Before To Get The Authorisation Frm The Ministery Of Interieur But Now It Is Not Longer Lake Before I Get Mine In 3 Month

nosa
24-05-06, 02:12 AM
NANOU : im not omani but i know its a hestle ..
ummm y dont u both get married outside of oman ???
is that possible ?

5alfanooh
24-05-06, 02:32 AM
^^^ that's breaking the laws and if they got married abroad and then returned back home,, alot of problems would appear.. and i doubt that their kids would have a birth certificate! so " ib3id 3an el shar w '3aneloh "