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Desert_Sloath
29-03-06, 11:00 PM
As a mental case he should be in Hospital otherwise he is likely to swing back and forward !

Afghan Christian convert finds sanctuary
Former Muslim who faced death penalty is in Italy, Berlusconi says

The Associated Press
Updated: 11:35 a.m. ET March 29, 2006


ROME - An Afghan Christian convert who had faced the death penalty for abandoning Islam has arrived in Italy where he has been granted asylum, Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi said Wednesday.

Abdul Rahman’s departure happened as Afghanistan’s parliament demanded that the government prevent him from leaving the country.

Italy has close ties with Afghanistan, whose former king, Mohammed Zaher Shah, was allowed to live with his family in exile in Rome for 30 years. The former royals returned to Kabul after the fall of the Taliban regime in 2001.

Rahman was released from prison Monday after a court dropped charges of apostasy against him because of a lack of evidence and suspicions he may be mentally ill. His whereabouts are unknown but he likely is still in the country.

Italy offered to grant Rahman asylum after Muslim clerics called for his death.

“We sent a letter and called the Interior Ministry and demanded they not allow Abdul Rahman to leave the country,” parliamentary speaker Yunus Qanooni told reporters.

Lawmakers spent the day debating the issue but did not take a formal vote on it. Qanooni was, however, speaking on behalf of the entire parliament.

Italian leader: ‘Very glad’ to help
Earlier Wednesday, Berlusconi said that Italy would be glad to give asylum to Rahman.

“I say that we are very glad to be able to welcome someone who has been so courageous,” Berlusconi said, when asked by Associated Press Television about the possibility of asylum for Abdul Rahman. The premier spoke ahead of a Cabinet meeting in which the government was widely expected to grant asylum.

Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini had earlier expressed Italy’s “indignation” over the case and Pope Benedict XVI had appealed to Afghan President Hamid Karzai to protect Rahman.

Rahman, 41, was released from the high-security Policharki prison on the outskirts of the capital late Monday after a court dropped charges of apostasy against him for lack of evidence and suspected mental illness. Karzai had been under heavy international pressure to drop the case.

Muslim clerics condemned Rahman’s release, saying it was a “betrayal of Islam.” They threatened to incite violent protests.

On Tuesday, Afghan Justice Minister Mohammed Sarwar Danish said Rahman was staying at a “safe location” in Kabul.

Close ties with Italy
The U.S. and Germany welcomed his release.

“Obviously it’s good news that he has been released,” White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

Germany, a major donor with about 2,000 troops in the NATO security force in Afghanistan, also expressed satisfaction.

“I think this is a sensible signal to the international community but also for the situation in Afghanistan,” German Chancellor Angela Merkel said.

Rahman was put on trial last week for converting 16 years ago while he was a medical aid worker for an international Christian group helping Afghan refugees in Pakistan. He faced the death penalty under Afghanistan’s Islamic laws.

Rahman’s ordeal began as a custody dispute over his two daughters, now 13 and 14. The girls had been living with their grandparents their whole lives but Rahman sought custody when he returned to Afghanistan in 2002 after living in Germany for nine years. A custody battle ensued and the matter was taken to police.

During questioning, it emerged that Rahman was a Christian and was carrying a Bible. He was immediately arrested and charged.

The case caused an outcry in the United States and other nations that helped oust the hard-line Taliban regime in late 2001 and provide aid and military support for Karzai. President Bush and others had insisted Afghanistan protect personal beliefs. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called Karzai last week and appealed for a “favorable resolution” of the case.

Clerics united against Afghan
But the outrage put Karzai in a difficult position because he also risked offending religious sensibilities in Afghanistan, where senior Muslim clerics have been united in calling for Rahman to be executed.

“This is a betrayal of Islam and the entire Afghan nation by our government,” said Hamiddullah, a senior cleric in Kabul. “This will have very dangerous consequences for the government. Muslim leaders will react very strongly.”

A cleric in northern Kunduz town, Ubuiddullah, said, “We will protest this. We are very angry.”

However, a preacher in the northwestern Badghis province said the country’s religious leaders should not incite violence.

“Clerics shouldn’t be calling for people to riot and damage our country,” Mohammed Usman said.

On Monday, 700 clerics, students and others in the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif protested Rahman’s acquittal a day earlier. The demonstration ended peacefully and there have been no rallies since.



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jack
29-03-06, 11:03 PM
As a mental case he should be in Hospital otherwise he is likely to swing back and forward !He's not a homosexual ... he just decided that Islam was not for him anymore.

Desert_Sloath
29-03-06, 11:09 PM
He's not a homosexual ... he just decided that Islam was not for him anymore.


and who is talking about homosexual ?



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wudjab
29-03-06, 11:42 PM
Considering the mullahs foaming at the mouth because a free individual choose to believe in the true God, I would think the mullah's and the other islamic nutjobs in Afghanistan are the ones who need to be in an asylum.

Desert_Sloath
30-03-06, 12:03 AM
Considering the mullahs foaming at the mouth because a free individual choose to believe in the true God, I would think the mullah's and the other islamic nutjobs in Afghanistan are the ones who need to be in an asylum.


who was ruling Afghanistan 16 years ago ye`wudjab !


the guy Rahman is pulling wools off Berlusconis eyes !

i wonder why economic asylum seekers from Maghreb and Other states of Africa don't follow Rahman's wit and move to Italy ? I am sure soon Rahman would run back home !

he lived 9 years in Germany ? Like in the States; don't they have gay marriages in european churches yet ? I bet that is going to be his first shock !


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wudjab
30-03-06, 01:44 AM
Answer this with is a simple yes or no.

Do you think Rahman should be put to death for leaving Islam ?

amo_l_oman
30-03-06, 07:01 PM
It was a good move to gain coupla Christian votes as the Pope said that civil unions will never be accepted
Now we [Forza Italia&co] have catholics and gay votes

MorphaKnight
30-03-06, 07:13 PM
murtadeen should only be put to death if they seek for a way to destroy islam.. and that is the only reason much like most others who try to destroy it but seeing that he hasn't then there isn't a reason to kill him...simple as that

sheik-al-Tort
30-03-06, 07:14 PM
Sounds to me that if the mullahs and clerics think this chap is mad because he saw fit to become a Christian, and that somehow Karzai by sparing him has upset the ''sensibilities of Islam'', then it's a rum do.

Sounds like they are not a lot further forward than the mediaeval vandal Taleban nutters.

amo_l_oman
30-03-06, 07:17 PM
Tort

dnt you think that this escamotage was just a Pirro victory for the so called civilised world ?

sheik-al-Tort
31-03-06, 03:32 PM
If I knew what an escomotage was I might be able to answer!

amo_l_oman
31-03-06, 03:53 PM
you remind me of Chirac upset cause one of his comrades spoke in English :cute:

In the end the guy went to Italy cause mentally sick
The trick worked but Sharia still there

jack
31-03-06, 05:01 PM
In the end the guy went to Italy cause mentally sickBS ... the guy went to Italy to keep himself from being killed by muslims.

amo_l_oman
31-03-06, 06:02 PM
Yup now he is asking to bring his family cause scared they can kill them too

is like the triple talaq
you cannot blame a religion for the ignorance of its followers

wudjab
31-03-06, 08:09 PM
Who do we blame then ?

This is supposedly a simple religion, directly revealed by God, and we cannot agree on whether a person can change his beliefs.

There is no one source of religious authority in Islam so we will live in this perpetual limbo where atrocious things will be done in the name of islam and we will all have to hear the standard line about islam being different from its followers, or things out of context or incorrect interpretations. This is never going to end.

By thier fruits ye shall know them. At present, the fruits seem to be pretty rotten.

sheik-al-Tort
31-03-06, 08:22 PM
Yes can we have a grown up debate about this instead of being so damn precious about local backward customs. Why try and defend the indefensible? Or are humans in the same boat as foxes as far as Islam is concerned i.e. ''we've done this for generations so leave us alone and let us carry on killing''