Yeah..i heard 2day that there was another murder on Monday...an indian school girl was found in a black bag cutinto piecies and thrown behind 'Muscat Bakery' Al-Khuwair...she was found on Tuesday!!

My God...what ever happened to 'Oman is the safest country' and "its a peaceful place' ??!!!!! :Shock: :angry: :bomb:

and it wasnt on the papers too.....now why would they hide such thing!! :yell:

ASSAULT ON INDIAN GIRL IN MSUCAT
DUBAI: Assailants slashed the neck and throat of a six-year-old Indian girl in the Omani capital Muscat. Shreya Sudhir, a student of Indian School Muscat was attacked when she was alone in her school bus, The Times of Oman reported on Wednesday. — PTIRead here (http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030731/world.htm).

A 6 year old girl? Sick really ...

this IS sick!

Safety in Oman has been decreasing since summer. I guess the reason is concentrating more on ways to increase money income to police other than other stuff.

rates are more important determinent of how safe is our country than isolated incidents here and there countible by a single hand fingers!!!!

Who said that there is a place in the world that is 100% free of crimes??
Maybe heaven?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

concentrating more on ways to increase money income to police other than other stuff.
that is just pure wrong, no country will only care about its income through police, and police cant be everywhere all the time, things just happen and oman is a relatively very safe place, and will stay like that, and its wrong saying police wants just to collect money, the police has a budget of its own, and believe me, money they collect from others is nothing compared to what they have, they wont need any more money, i think we should get confirmation about this incident first then start talking about it, not just every rumour becomes the talk of everyone and IF it was just a rumor, then ppl prove how stupid and fathyeen they r to just chew something that never existed

rates are more important determinent of how safe is our country than isolated incidents here and there countible by a single hand fingers!!!!

Who said that there is a place in the world that is 100% free of crimes??
Maybe heaven?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!All people said was that the rates of reported crime in Oman has been increasing. No one compared Oman to heaven either now, did they? To think of it, everyone's happy if everything bad is always kept in dark ...

and i think something are better not known, as long as things are in control then there is no need to hurt anyone, me personally, if my daughter got murdered, it would hurt me to see it all over the newspapers, and even when they catch the murdereds, i wouldnt want to know and read it in the newspapers and news and so on..

All people said was that the rates of reported crime in Oman has been increasing. No one compared Oman to heaven either now, did they? To think of it, everyone's happy if everything bad is always kept in dark ...just was marely answering to those who say: Where is Oman that was once safe!!!!....well its still safe!!!

Yeah I guess ... a 6 yr old killed in a school bus doesn't take that away, does it? Stop being so ignorantly patriotic, will ya?!

Thug Angel, your idea just kills the thought of freedom. I understand your thought when you relate to your daughter etc, but what if someone just randomly disappears in Oman and no one even reports of it?

I don't care really ... its your country and if you're fine with being kept in the dark, then so be it. :p

This sick ... It's really scary ..

i dont think its true though, we need confirmation before we start commenting and saying stuff and so on

A friend of mine 10 years ago had her throat slashed in Oman by the houseboy.This stuff happens I suppose...doesnt make it any less shocking, but I dont think its a rising trend however. We need figures.

We need figures.Exactly:mmhmm:

It is always better to be informed of such news, especially for those who believe that such thing never happens in the country. It is amazing how nowhere on the net I could really find an article related to this incident (even the wednesday Times of Oman).

I am wandering where was the school bus driver to leave such a young child alone?...unless he is the one who attacked her. Aren't all bus drivers supposed to be Omanis?

Rosso, I dont think the police is to be blamed here .. the police is doing whats possible to make the place save, but we cant put a cop around each corner! Its the mentality of the sick person who killed the girl.

Shino, if its not reported in the newspapers it doesnt mean its not reported to the police .. Sadly, sick minded people exists everywhere .. but how many sick people in one country is whats counted .. the crime rate in Oman is low compared to other places .. thats a fact, otherwise such a news wouldnt be shocking.
I am also aginst publicizing these news .. people get paniced easily .. let people live with being safe in thier mind .. which is actually whats happening.

LOL, I'm not even doubting that Oman's a peaceful place. Let it be that way for centuries to come ...

What kind of disgusts me is the idea that citizens of Oman are willing ... well rather want to, by personal choice, live in the shadow. People in other parts of the world would cry "repression" if they were kept in the dark, but here people want to. Very interesting ...

I'm reminded now of what Muscati posted in his blog a little while back, wondering if anyone would stand up or be there if Muscati's neck was on the line for talking about Oman's issues.

well I am aginst giving reportes and newspapers the power to turn a safe place into hell .. yes they have it .. because each small incident would be made a big one by reports .. thats thier job .. they want readers attention!!!
I am not aginst not reporting it after the case is done, but I want control with whatever its reported.

Whats intresting is how a person's opinion is disgusting to you :)

well I am aginst giving reportes and newspapers the power to turn a safe place into hell .. yes they have it ..Their job is to bring facts to the people, who sadly don't want it. Its a fantasy world otherwise ...

Whats intresting is how a person's opinion is disgusting to you :)The ideology was disgusting and the thought of being living happily in a false world, interesting. I didn't mean to sound rude to you personally, sorry if I did. :)

I am also aginst publicizing these news .. people get paniced easily .. let people live with being safe in thier mind .. Arby, I have a complete different opinion than you.

I rather prefer that everything (important enough, or related to the society safety and environment) is immediately known to the public and it is up to each individual to choose to either view these news or ignore them.

In this 20th century, it is not enough to 'live safely in our mind' only and not face the reality of what is really happening around us. 'Knowing' does not necessarily means that we will live in fear. 'Knowing' might on the contrary teach us to be more aware, more careful and therefore less fearful.

As the Latin proverb says: "By ignorance we mistake, and by mistakes we learn".

Amazing.

Don't report crime so that things appear to be good.

Amazing.

Am Actully with Ap and Thug in this.. Why make people live in fear while you can make them live in peace.

Plus if the R.O.P think that Oman is not safe anymore, they would start allowing the Reporters to write the stories so the people can be aware of everything.

But right now, Everything is under control. Plus i asure you, when the guy who did this is captured the thing would be in the NEWS. END OF STORY!!

My God...what ever happened to 'Oman is the safest country' and "its a peaceful place' ??!!!!! :Shock: :angry: :bomb:


.. thats the tax we should pay for emmm... i dont know whhat to call it.. maybe for "having a better life" :os

.. yalah .. alah yistor.. poor lil girl!


and it wasnt on the papers too.....now why would they hide such thing!!

..if the make it shown on TV .. the number of crimes will increase .. i strongly believe! :help:

Several have said ...

If crime is reported to the public ... crime rate will go up.

Makes since to me that if crime was reported in Omani society with this whole shame the family thing ... that reporting crime could be a deterrent to crime.

But in real honesty I doubt if it matters to any person committing a violent major crime, as in this case either way.

Fine if the ones don't want to know about these things, but don't sit around and say there is no crime ... because it's not reported by the news organizations.

Jack, no one said there are no crimes .. what we are saying is, crime rate in Oman is still low !

Jack, no one said there are no crimes .. what we are saying is, crime rate in Oman is still low !AP in reality ... you have no idea if the crime rate is low, medium or high when your country does not report it and no access to official stats that are obviously kept from the public ... if kept at all ;)

Like I said don't say no crime or low crime or anything when you have no clue what the real stats are.

Silent is gold.

this topic is heading to a different direction from what it started with originally...

we still dont know if the incident happened or not...

as for the public being aware about crime in the country, i agree that the public should know about this, only if its the truth and whole truth...

AP in reality ... you have no idea if the crime rate is low, medium or high when your country does not report it and no access to official stats that are obviously kept from the public ... if kept at all

Like I said don't say no crime or low crime or anything when you have no clue what the real stats are.

you cant really beleive that we are so undeveloped to an extent that the police wouldnt keep such an important information ;)

They are kept, and after the cases are solved they are usually given out to the public ..

I agree with Shinoda here. It is very wrong to keep things like these away from us. We should be told of everything that happens. I think it's one of our rights.

Although some people might not want to know because they think it'll give them piece of mind, all they're gonna have is a false sense of security. I think that generally most Omanis don't like admitting that they have problems. They don't like facing them, and they'd rather just keep them buried somewhere. There are benefits in letting the public know about incidents like these. For one, people will be more cautious and this could help avoid other similar incidents.

I just don't see the point of hiding news like this from the public. We are Omanis, we live in Oman, we have the right to know about things that happen in our country.

This is really very sad.

Read here (http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030731/world.htm).

A 6 year old girl? Sick really ...


is it me or is this story old ,,, i can see it happened in 2003 from the link provided by Shinoda LP..
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030731/world.htm

even when u open the page/link u can see its mentioned "Thursday, July 31, 2003, Chandigarh, India" on the top left of the page

Excellent observation Naruto! You deserve a green point :)

....Now, now, now...how come Her XLNC has just reported this crime and Shinoda (by coincidence) had a link? This news seems indeed 2 years old (no wander I did not find it in wednesday Time of Oman! Is there a conspiracy here?

Calling Her XLNC and Shinoda to clarify this matter....if found guilty, you might be charged accordingly :p.

LOOL this is funny! so the news is totally old ha! astakhfer allah! :p
Naruto thanks for ur observation! coz i really was worried it would be real!

Well i was told abt it from a v.v.reliable source....i didnt know it happened 2 years back...but still when it comes to MURDER PPL SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT TO BE MORE SAFE...!!!! WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW...!!! hell the police had a whole edition of a book about all the murders & crimes that happened in Oman....and its ONLY given to the ppl who work in the Police Station...now why is that....i've read the book...i;ve seen pictures too...and trust me...its worse than a NIGHTMARE!!

*wonder when will the nxt edition be out*.....oh XP im guilty as charged...

seeeeeeeeee, this is what i was trying to say waaay earlier, we like to chew stuff that we only want to believe they existed, but it didnt, this was waaaay a long time ago, and we still believed ourselve (well i didnt) and this is what happens when the police gives reports to reporters, the same thing will happen, but instead of only here in sabla (and god knows who went out to spread the news among their friends and family) it would be in reality, and everyone will start chewing the news and making stuff and ppl get ideas and so on..

Uh, no, this is what happens when police DONT give news to reporters! Rumours start to fly around. If Oman is a safe country, then we have nothing to fear from the truth. :)

Thug angel... i think its for our own best to know what is happening in the country and to announce it to the public from the Authorities in local news papers.... because if not people will start Bluffing and Start Making up Rumours... which is bad! coz people would add and edit stuff to what is not true about some crimes...
The Public should be aware of what is happening to be extra careful if a Criminal was still out there! but theres only one disadvantage i have to admit on this, which is the panic that can be cased to the public if they hear about a crime..

well, whatever happens, ppl will still start editing and adding their own version of the story, but its less if its not publicised, and if something really happened, then the public will know, come on, dont forget we r still in oman, and if its not, ppl should realize its not, but what happens, they choose to ignore their common sense and allow theirselves to be fooled by their own imagination.

Amazing.

Don't report crime so that things appear to be good.

Amazing.

I totally agree with wudjub! Do people really want to deny reality and live in the dark?! :Shock:

its not living in the dark, come on, u know stuff even b4 they r published in the news paper, and when its published, u dont get the real actual thing, so whats the use of doing so, plus in oman, u should use ur brain and u'll know whats right and whats wrong, not everything ppl hear and make a big fuss about it

You don't always hear everything. And even if you hear it, it's not everyone who hears it, so I think they should publicize everything to let everyone know of what's happening.

yeah....i agreee, it should be published in the newspaper!! We, Omani's need to know what goes on in our very own country....hiding the truth would only make matters worse!

"Assailants slashed the neck and throat of a six-year-old Indian girl in the Omani capital Muscat. Shreya Sudhir, a student of Indian School Muscat was attacked when she was alone in her school bus, The Times of Oman reported on Wednesday."

according to this article ,,, i guess the news was published 2 years back in Times of Oman newspaper .. oO why would other contries report it if it wasnt reported here Oo dose this mean ppl from other country follow up our local news more than we do ...


Well i was told abt it from a v.v.reliable source....i didnt know it happened 2 years back...but still when it comes to MURDER PPL SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT TO BE MORE SAFE...!!!! WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW...!!! hell the police had a whole edition of a book about all the murders & crimes that happened in Oman....and its ONLY given to the ppl who work in the Police Station...now why is that....i've read the book...i;ve seen pictures too...and trust me...its worse than a NIGHTMARE!!

*wonder when will the nxt edition be out*.....oh XP im guilty as charged...

i heard about that book too... do u have a copy too share :D

Why would anyone want the book with murdered people's pictures?!!

Like Narauto mentioned, usually the cases are published but in a restricted manner .. which is whats happening .. what would be benefit from a reporter make the issues bigger.

is this story old ,,, i can see it happened in 2003 from the link provided by Shinoda LP.. :50bz: Not to confuse the new readers, I think it will be wiser to either edit the introduction of this thread or add a clear note that this murder presented is in fact not something that happened recently.

well, whatever happens, ppl will still start editing and adding their own version of the story, but its less if its not publicised, and if something really happened, then the public will know, come on, dont forget we r still in oman, and if its not, ppl should realize its not, but what happens, they choose to ignore their common sense and allow theirselves to be fooled by their own imagination.

This is why someone from the police should make a statement and be quoted on it, and this should be put in the Omani newspapers.
If things aren't explicitly clear, then people will obviously try to come to their own conclusions about what happened. To avoid this, eveything should be published so people know exactly what's going on.

no i dont agree, ppl wont feel safe and will start talking and panicing, and others will get idea, or may get ideas..

Don't you think it's OUR decision to make, regarding what we do with the news we've received? The role of the media is to deliver the news. Now if the source of the news is the police, then it's their duty to inform the media, the media informs us, and what we do thereafter is our choice.

Why don't you see people panicking and going hysterical in places all over the world? It's the opposite that happens, they are alert as to what's happening and this makes them exercise a lot more caution.

Don't you think it's OUR decision to make, regarding what we do with the news we've received? The role of the media is to deliver the news. Now if the source of the news is the police, then it's their duty to inform the media, the media informs us, and what we do thereafter is our choice.

Why don't you see people panicking and going hysterical in places all over the world? It's the opposite that happens, they are alert as to what's happening and this makes them exercise a lot more caution.
well,, ppl in oman are so much different that any others in the rest of the world, some are better, and some are worse,, and come on, u know ppl there, how they make stuff out of a silly thing, someone got stung by a bee, the new will end up saying he got aids from a prostitute he slept with the other day,, anyway this thread isnt about spreading the news or not, its about a murder that happened, and i commented on it and some ppl agree with it and some dont, everyone has his opinions to believe in :) and i wont let go of my opinion :p

^^ You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is there won't be silly rumours floating around if people got the news from a reliable source (i.e. the newspaper!!)

PS: What do you mean, some people in Oman are better, and some are worse? Better/worse in what way?

^^ You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is there won't be silly rumours floating around if people got the news from a reliable source (i.e. the newspaper!!)

PS: What do you mean, some people in Oman are better, and some are worse? Better/worse in what way?i mean ppl in oman are different that other ppl worldwide, some ppl from other countries are better in dealing with these stuff and some ppl are worse in dealing with these stuff,, and about rumors, comeon, that teacher who killed himself, we've heard alot about him, although everything happened in a traffic jam, and alot of ppl were present, and it was on the news, and newspapers, and everywhere, so there should be no place for rumors and so on, but still, every few days we keep hearing stuff (i dont know if u guys dont) but i do, from here and there, someone says he killed 6 some said 18, some said 6 at the ministry and 1 before he committed suicide, lol, some ppl even say he killed the police man who was following him, lol..

anyway, my point is, things in oman are under control, and stuff are not reported coz there will be a fuss about it, ppl will start blaming and complaining and dunno what, for nothing, as they will complain for a thing that doesnt exists which is being in control, and il7amdilla oman police are in control of things happening in oman :)

You can't possibly think that we only have people in Oman who exaggerate and can't deal with certain things, because the same sort of people exist in every place in the world and yet you don't see chaos everywhere!

People won't be complaining about something that doesn't exist. When something happens, it's a fact. It's real. You can't deny it.

Once again, this thread somehow only seems to emphasize how many Omanis would rather turn a blind eye to the unsavory things in life. I don't think that the phrase "Ignorance is bliss" can be applied anywhere better than in our very own country. It's sad, really.

ppl have opinions, and i think in oman, the majority is the type that exaggerate on things and add spices and twist facts.

and i also think these type, hear something, wont believe it from inside, but will like to believe it to have something to talk about or think about.

i heard about that book too... do u have a copy too share :D



Oh...too late..i read this book a few months ago....there were some interesting stories...ppl would really kill for the silliest reasons!!

Salam,

From the link provided, the news dated on:

Thursday, July 31, 2003, Chandigarh, India

But did it stop happening..?!

Peace..

ppl have opinions, and i think in oman, the majority is the type that exaggerate on things and add spices and twist facts.

and i also think these type, hear something, wont believe it from inside, but will like to believe it to have something to talk about or think about.

Still not getting the point. They will not twist things if things were EXPLICITLY CLEAR.

Still not getting the point. They will not twist things if things were EXPLICITLY CLEAR.
they still do incase you dont know your own country's ppl

Liby, there are two kind of reporting ... one which is already happening .. the first is when the police issue a statment and send it to TV & newspapers brefily about what happened after the case is solved (the teacher case was on tv the same day).

another way of reporting is allowing reporters to follow police men and write thier own versions of the story, wether its based on facts or speculations, this is what I am aginst ..

good point AP im glad someone is supporting me and giving a good explaination of it ;)

i'm wondering about a thing here

so we know there was a murder so what's that suppose to do?

i mean how does reporting it changes our life?

crazyRed, reporting a crime, such as a murder allows people to be aware and more cautious of what is going on around us...
With your question, i'd like to ask you a question, whats the point of the newS knowing waht is happening in Iraq, palestine, or anywhere(different situations but stilll relevant), how does that change your life??!?!

it dosn't thats the thing

all these deaths reported but we still see them going

hmm i guess this leads to whats the use of news?

yup i guesss so!!
So you are saying that you'd rather live in a closed up world, where you are the center of your world, and whatever happens outside of it.....screw it???

What crazy is trying to say: whats the use of knowing it?? did it change anything on whats happening in this world? it only makes you more depressed!!

I stopped watching news long time back ..

nah

i need to know sports scores :p

I am still amazed to read here (though still respect) here that some rather prefer for local news (like this murder) not to be reported...simply because they are 'better off not knowing' or because they don't think the Omani people are ready to deal or face such event!

We are not talking about children here, but adults who read the news. I do not believe that the majority of Omani would prefer not to know what is happening in their country or around the world...even if there is nothing they can really do to change the situation.

If there is a minority who chooses to keep itself and the public in the dark, it does not mean that everyone should fall in the same black hole. Some want to know and it is a freedom of choice that should be given. It is up to each individual to do what he/she wants with it.

X-press, please understand what I am saying here .. I said, its better that the reports are controled by the police and a very breife statment with what is happening is issued than having reporters go and publish it thier own way ..
We are not asking to be in a black hole, we are asking to have controlled informations given out because no one will benefit if a reporter just went and wrote thier own speculations.

Anyway, this is my opinion .. I have put my validation .. its up to you to agree with it or not :)

nah

i need to know sports scores

thats even more depressing .. my bro cries when Oman looses :p

There are another two good reasons why crime needs to be fully reported:

1. To assist the Police: The current policy is only to report serious crime after the case has been "solved". But in doing this, the Police deny themselves the opportunity to circulate descriptions, to appeal for witnesses who might have noticed the perpetrator before the crime, and to allow suspects to come forward and eliminate themselves to save Police time.

2. To hold the Police to account: If the only crime stories are those where the Police are saying what a good job they did, where is the accountability? Everyone says Oman is "safe" (well, I guess it is realtively), but how can they judge how well the Police are performing if crime statistics and major cases (and especially statistics for unsolved crimes) are not published? This has nothing to do with "making people feel better"; it has everything to do with covering up incompetence. And as for certain figures telling barefaced lies about cases in public and to the victims' families, it's best not to say in this forum as it would cause some members great embarrassment.