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Abs
17-09-05, 04:56 PM
I've seen (mostly in India) that muslims like to take comfort in the number 786. what's the significance? Is it a verse number in the Quran or something?

Pablo Escobar
17-09-05, 05:04 PM
never heard of this..

Blessed
17-09-05, 05:06 PM
If you take the numeric values of all the letters of the Basmalah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmala), according to the Abjad order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_alphabet#Abjadi_order), the total will be 786. In the Indian subcontinent the Abjad numerals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad_numerals) have become quite popular. Some people, mostly in India and Pakistan, use 786 as a substitute for Bismillah ("In the name of Allah" or "In the Name of God"). They write this number to avoid writing the name of Allah, or Qur'anic verses, on ordinary papers. This practice does not date from the time of Muhammad and is not universally accepted by Muslims.
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/786)

UmKhalid
17-09-05, 05:08 PM
Nice numbers ...

Dark Project
17-09-05, 05:28 PM
So I assume that many cars have the same number Gosh people do go to extreme .. I never thought that this could mean anything . Thinking about it there is a guy who I have seen driving around with a number 69247 get it !!

Pablo Escobar
17-09-05, 05:38 PM
So I assume that many cars have the same number Gosh people do go to extreme .. I never thought that this could mean anything . Thinking about it there is a guy who I have seen driving around with a number 69247 get it !!

oman number plates are 4 digits but anyway i dont know how did u went
so far with a number like this :color:

Pineapple Thief
17-09-05, 06:11 PM
so 786 is the 1337 way of saying bismillah? neat...

Her XLNC
17-09-05, 06:31 PM
well theres an indian family here who own nice cars with a plate number all '786'...plus i had a friend of mine not indian who was obssesed abt this number!!

Storm
17-09-05, 08:29 PM
Totally new for me, never heard about it :os ,,

ti3gib
17-09-05, 11:49 PM
666 ? ... okay don't shoot me :D

Arabian Prince
18-09-05, 05:25 PM
Thanks for bringing this up Abs... I was never aware of this.

Thanks to Blessed for coming up with some info too :)
(BTW... your sig. ROCKS! :D )

fatamooo
18-09-05, 07:01 PM
Hmm I never heard that before... that's interesting!

zagly
18-09-05, 08:17 PM
I have no idea

MorphaKnight
19-09-05, 08:45 AM
Never heard of it. Pretty interesting. Also obvious to note how there's soo much unnecessary symbology made by people within the religion.

Pineapple Thief
19-09-05, 05:42 PM
Would make an interesting thread, MorphaKnight ;)

hakuna_matata
19-09-05, 07:24 PM
i have heard of this thing and i asked about it.......my indian friends back home usually had to have it on all of their exam papers.......out of curiosity, i asked and they told me it was a short form for bismillah.....as i was young so i did not care..how it was generated.....

some had to write it as 786 / some other number starting with one i.e 786/1**

Shinoda LP
20-09-05, 08:44 AM
Those who invented the "786", are GUILTY of tampering with the text of the Holy Qur’an. Muslims are invited to give up this EVIL and disgusting practice of using 786. It is, I repeat, an innovation, evil and in NO WAY sacred. It is a conspiracy against the kitaab (book) of Allah.

This old game of numbers was practised by the ancient Egyptians, as did many other civilisations. Islaam came to ELIMINATE ALL such superstitions, mysteries and numerological mumbo-jumbo. However, Muslims are still enslaved to the number game, and think that 786 represents BISMILLAAHIR RAHMAANIR RAHEEM.
May ALLAH give us all the guidance to practice what is most Pleasing to Him!
Taken from: http://members.tripod.com/maseeh1/advices7/id152.htm

Pineapple Thief
20-09-05, 10:18 AM
Ok, while I like what morphaknight said about it being unnecessary, I think the language and the tone of what Shinoda posted is pretty sickening. Come on man, why do you have to throw in the words EVIL and CONSPIRACY everywhere?? (not shinoda, his source)

IceTea
21-09-05, 04:58 PM
So if Boing made 786 plane, all Indian muslims will book in it and ignore the rest!

MorphaKnight
21-09-05, 08:41 PM
Ok, while I like what morphaknight said about it being unnecessary, I think the language and the tone of what Shinoda posted is pretty sickening. Come on man, why do you have to throw in the words EVIL and CONSPIRACY everywhere?? (not shinoda, his source)

yeah as soon as I read the word conspiracy, I can tell he would refuse to listen what the other side has to say no matter what they tell him. Also, numbers do play a significant role in the Quran. It was said there are many mathmatical miracles hidden in the Quran whenever a person would count the words being used. One noted was amount of water on earth and the land on it. I can't find a source for it but I seen it before. Thus, everything in life, no matter how big or small intertwines with Islam. It's basically our job to discover what's in this life using the Quran as a tool of guidance sent by our deity. However, people must refrain from blind faith in such a religion as it will lead to what we're seeing now.. ignorance, superstition and belief in many unnecessary things that is hardly beneficial.