View Full Version : What Islam has in common with Christianity and Judaism


Enigma
08-07-05, 02:58 AM
I was listening to a priest talk today (on television) and he mentioned that repetence was only a true one if you really felt guilty and you promised to God that you wouldn't return to the sin (and you didn't). He also mentioned that if you repented before death (whenever tht was), God forgives you. But he advised not to wait that long because we never know when our turn will come up and we would pass away.

This part of Christianity is exactly how it is in Islam.

I thought we could have a thread to discuss any similarties we know of/heard of in which Islam was similar to the other two holy monothiest religions.

Does anyone know of anything else?

CrazyReD
08-07-05, 03:18 AM
That there'll be an end of days

there's one God who created us

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someone correct me if i'm wrong

fatamooo
08-07-05, 03:45 AM
But don't christians believe in the father, son and holy ghost? That's different, right?

CrazyReD
08-07-05, 03:47 AM
is it all the different sects?

fatamooo
08-07-05, 03:56 AM
No, don't you ever hear them say, "In the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost..." - I'm not sure exactly why, though...

Enigma
08-07-05, 12:47 PM
Fatamoo you are talking about the holy trinity; which consists of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit. Christianity is still a monothiestic religion though. They just believe that the one God is actually a triune: consisting of three parts.

IceTea
08-07-05, 03:12 PM
They just believe that the one God is actually a triune: consisting of three parts.

But God is one and not 3 parts.

Allah can forgive anything except associating others with him.

Enigma
10-07-05, 11:15 PM
I did some reading and this is what I've learned so far (Islam/Judaism):

~ Both prohibit pork.

~ Both state that animals to be slaughtered should be done in an appropriate way; the throat being slit in a quick and merciful manner.

~ Both prohibit the drinking of blood.

~ Both religions have fasting days: for muslims its Ramadan and for Jews its Yom Kipper (which lasts 24 hours).

sheik-al-Tort
11-07-05, 07:15 PM
But don't christians believe in the father, son and holy ghost? That's different, right?


The Father is Allah or God
The Son is the person of Christ who lived the tenets of Judaism and demonstrated God's or Allah's true compassion on the cross, especially that moment when he said: ''Forgive them for they know not what they do''

The 'ghost' is the spirit of Allah or God

Therefore if we live like Christ or more specifically as Allah or God would have us live, then we become an expression of Allah or God.

It is only fools who look at these things literally and without thought who create religious tensions. This leads to persecution. Christians have persecuted Jews and Muslims and to some extent the same is true in reverse.

We all share a common God or Allah, but we also share sin.

Evil is in our hearts not our clothes or the food we eat. I would recommend the film 'Red Dust'' about the ''Truth and Reconcilliation'' that went on in South Africa after the most appalling subjugation of a people. Fr Desmond Tutu came up with the idea of forgiveness rather than revenge.

I would also recommend the writings of Kahlil Gibran who demonstrates in his writings the same compassionate nature of Christ.

We have lots in common, but our communities foster the differences, and this is not helped by killing innocent people or trying to control how people think. That was never Allah's or God's intention for us

cLueLess
11-07-05, 07:23 PM
Women in Islam as well as christianity are supposed to cover up. You don't see much Christians like that anymore but nuns are an example. I think that's the reason why it was irrespectable for a lady to go out without a bonnet on her head during the 19th century and before that.

IceTea
11-07-05, 07:27 PM
The Father is Allah or God
The Son is the person of Christ who lived the tenets of Judaism and demonstrated God's or Allah's true compassion on the cross, especially that moment when he said: ''Forgive them for they know not what they do''

The 'ghost' is the spirit of Allah or God



As for muslims Allah rejects the Trinity as stated in the Quran.
So nothing common here!

sheik-al-Tort
11-07-05, 07:37 PM
As for muslims Allah rejects the Trinity as stated in the Quran.
So nothing common here!


No one is arguing the 3 religions are identical, but the thread is seeking to identify common ground. Suggest you drink more iced tea, or failing that have a beer

Enigma
11-07-05, 07:41 PM
Lets not turn this into a battle over Islam & Christianity. Thanks guys.

sheik-al-Tort
13-07-05, 09:36 PM
Another thing we have in common - a history of committing atrocities

I|( Bent Qatar )|I
15-07-05, 07:36 PM
Today I came across this site..
Sultan Islamic Links (http://www.sultan.org/#i&c)

There's this section Islam, Christianity and other Religions..

sheik-al-Tort
18-07-05, 10:02 PM
I checked it out and unfortunately it is full of errors, for instance the 'Holy Spirit' is not the same as the Arch Angel Gabriel.

It also says that the Bible is believed 100% by Christians. This is very simplistic, there are some 'fundamentalist ' Christians who bleve that the Universe for example was literally made in 6 days with God resting on the 7th, but few Christians really believe this. It's a matter of interpretation, which is why there are so many different Christian sects.

where Christianity and Islam share several of the same dangers, is in a literal and often fundamentalist belief without question. Very quickly this turns to a judgemental view over anyone who does not conform to the same strict adherence. To my mind this is the sin of pride, and leads to the appalling persecution of those who cannot fend for themselves. The Crusades, for example not only perpetrated awful evil on Muslims, but also Jews. In these awful days which we refer to as the 'Dark Ages' the power of the Church caused it to ignore the very basic tenet of Christianity, given by Jesus who said, '' Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself'' A big departure from the eye for an eye tooth for a tooth, law that had been the basis of many primitve societies.

Christ gave expression to this commandment after being tortured and then crucified. As he was dying, he said; ''Forgive them Father for they know not what they do''.

In his earlier life he often challenged the authority of the established politically motivated religious leaders, by exposing their judgemental hypocrisy.

It is a sad fact that few Christians follow the essence of Christ's teachings. Most disturbing is the increase in Christian fundamentalism in the US. I'm sure this led Bush to go on the warpath. Saddam who undoubtedly was a wicked man, taunted Bush and pride made Bush react. Blair on the other hand supported his attack on Saddam out of a zealous belief that to destroy the tyrant was justified. The majority of us in Britain do not support the war and hope that after this mess, iraq can rule itself in peace with its neighbours

Fundamentalism leads to pride - christian or muslim or any other faith for that matter.
Evil creeps into us when we start passing judgement on others based on this sin of pride. It then flows out of us when we become blind to our own faults and act hypocritically and judgementally.

Until we all admit our faults in the spirit of humility, we can all be exploited by evil men.