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shamsery
11-06-05, 12:52 AM
Why U.S. administration does not recognize the International Criminal Court ?

Shinoda LP
11-06-05, 01:13 AM
Maybe the ICC could prove as an un-worthy layer to go through, before making a trivial decision.

Besides, does the ICC have a policy of only trying someone if the judicial system in that person's country have collapsed? Or was that something else, or re-written?

jack
11-06-05, 01:17 AM
Why U.S. administration does not recognize the International Criminal Court ?Can't say really they have not consulted me on this.

There are 191 countries that are members of the UN.

99 countries recognize ICC

191 - 99 = 92 that don't recognize ICC

You may get a quicker answer asking someone there in your hometown why they do not recognize ICC. It may be for the same reason ... who knows. Looks like "almost" all Islamic countries do not recognize the ICC. Count them for us.

Here are the countries that do recognize and have signed on to the ICC.

http://www.icc-cpi.int/asp/statesparties.html

A
Afghanistan
Albania
Andorra
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Australia
Austria


B
Barbados
Belgium
Belize
Benin
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brazil
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burundi


C
Cambodia
Canada
Central African Republic
Colombia
Congo
Costa Rica
Croatia
Cyprus


D
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Denmark
Djibouti
Dominica
Dominican Republic


E
Ecuador
Estonia


F
Fiji
Finland
France

G
Gabon
Gambia
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Guinea
Guyana


H
Honduras
Hungary


I
Iceland
Ireland
Italy


J
Jordan


K
Kenya


L
Latvia
Lesotho
Liberia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg


M
Malawi
Mali
Malta
Marshall Islands
Mauritius
Mongolia


N
Namibia
Nauru
Netherlands
New Zealand
Niger
Nigeria
Norway

P
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Poland
Portugal


R
Republic of Korea
Romania


S
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Samoa
San Marino
Senegal
Serbia and Montenegro
Sierra Leone
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland


T
Tajikistan
The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Timor-Leste
Trinidad and Tobago


U
Uganda
United Kingdom
United Republic of Tanzania
Uruguay


V
Venezuela


Z
Zambia

Shinoda LP
11-06-05, 01:24 AM
I was voice the American-imperialist-puppet-regimes' support for their sugar-daddy, till I saw Afghanistan's name on there. Hmm, interesting!

Shamsery, why doesn't Bangladesh, India or Pakistan support the ICC?

shamsery
11-06-05, 03:13 AM
Shamsery, why doesn't Bangladesh, India or Pakistan support the ICC?

As of 16 May 2005, 139 states have signed the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and 99 states have ratified or acceded to it. The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court entered into force on 1 July 2002.
Bangladesh ,Date of signature, 16 September 1999

India, Pakistan, should I comment ?
You will not like that.
And that a diffrent topic , I think.

shamsery
11-06-05, 03:20 AM
Mr. Jack,
That not the reply to my question.

Mr.Shinoda, What ICC is?

wudjab
11-06-05, 03:21 AM
Hi there Mr. Taqiya.

Maybe Bangladesh signed but forgot to inform the ICC ?

Because, the ICC's own web site seems unaware that Bangladesh signed on 16 September 1999 !

http://www.icc-cpi.int/region&id=4.html

wudjab
11-06-05, 03:23 AM
This is a related question.

Why has Bangladesh not signed ?

Shinoda LP
11-06-05, 03:23 AM
As of 16 May 2005, 139 states have signed the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and 99 states have ratified or acceded to it. The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court entered into force on 1 July 2002.
Bangladesh ,Date of signature, 16 September 1999

India, Pakistan, should I comment ?
You will not like that.
And that a diffrent topic , I think.
I don't see Bangla's name on there. And yes, please go ahead. I've ceased taking you seriously, no matter what. :)

jack
11-06-05, 03:25 AM
As of 16 May 2005, 139 states have signed the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and 99 states have ratified or acceded to it. The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court entered into force on 1 July 2002.
Bangladesh ,Date of signature, 16 September 1999

India, Pakistan, should I comment ?
You will not like that.
And that a diffrent topic , I think.I did not see that on the official website. So 99 are on board and another 40 have signed and said we'll bring it back to our country and think on it.

I think the US also signed the Rome thing and has done exactly like Bangladesh and said we'll think on it.

Shinoda LP
11-06-05, 03:31 AM
Shamsery, here's the link you copy-pested that off:-

http://web.amnesty.org/pages/icc-signatures_ratifications-eng

Bangladesh has only signed and not confirmed (ratified), just like the US did. So, please entertain us with your 'neo-imperialistic-puppet-regime' comment now.

If you're wondering, the yellow color code stands for not raitfying and white stands for not signing in the first place.

ICC = International Criminal Court.

shamsery
11-06-05, 03:45 AM
This is a related question.

Why has Bangladesh not signed ?

Are you blind?
Go and check it up and then come back.
Don’t behave like a penny wise pound foolish.
Take some data , a few

Algeria date of signature 28 December 2000
Angola date of Sig. 7 October 1998
Australia date sig. 9 December 1998
Bahamas date of sig 29 December 2000
Bahrain date of sig 11 December 2000
Bangladesh date of sig 16 September 1999

Iran, Islamic Republic of date of sig 31 December 2000
Israel date of sig. 31 December 2000
Oman date of sig 20 December 2000

Many other countiers has signed.

shamsery
11-06-05, 03:47 AM
Shamsery, here's the link you copy-pested that off:-

http://web.amnesty.org/pages/icc-signatures_ratifications-eng

Bangladesh has only signed and not confirmed (ratified), just like the US did. So, please entertain us with your 'neo-imperialistic-puppet-regime' comment now.

If you're wondering, the yellow color code stands for not raitfying and white stands for not signing in the first place.

ICC = International Criminal Court.

Your link is correct.

shamsery
11-06-05, 03:49 AM
The United States of America and Israel signed the Rome Statute on 31 December 2000, however both states have since formally declared their intention not to ratify it.

Shinoda LP
11-06-05, 03:53 AM
To those who can't understand on the first go, or read the small print properly:-

GREEN States that have ratified / acceeded to the Rome Statute of the ICC
YELLOWStates that have signed onlyhttp://web.amnesty.org/icons/ecblank.gif
WHITE States that have not signed
* The United States of America and Israel signed the Rome Statute on 31 December 2000, however both states have since formally declared their intention not to ratify it.

Bangladesh has only signed, but not confirmed! US and Israel were mentioned because they signed after the 1999 deadline date!!

So, Bangladesh doesn't recognize ICC just like US of A, India and Pakistan.

Why?

shamsery
11-06-05, 03:54 AM
Bangladesh has only signed and not confirmed (ratified), just like the US did. So, please entertain us with your 'neo-imperialistic-puppet-regime' comment now.

Reply given. We have not refused to ratify . Except America & Israel none has formally declared their intention not to ratify it.
Pakistan and India has not signed it.

jack
11-06-05, 03:56 AM
Ok from shams fav site or the flav of this month anyway here's a graphic that shows the world and who has done what concerning the ICC.

I think I can spot a trend ... can you? Hint ... look at the white sections.

Can we say that the majority of countries that did not sign so obviously they have not ratified and we can assume that they have no intention to in the future are predominately islamic?

http://divedesk.com/sabla/icc.gif

And to answer your question again shams .. the US adminstration did not consult me on that issue ... I don't know.

shamsery
11-06-05, 04:01 AM
If we come to the main question ,
question is Why U.S. administration does not recognize the International Criminal Court ?
It was not related to Bangladesh, pakistan or India.
Does the American treat Bangladesh as their model?
We want Bangladesh must ratify the ICC

Mr Tickle
13-06-05, 05:17 PM
Why have the majority of Muslim nations not ratified it?

oh yes, human rights

Shinoda LP
13-06-05, 09:56 PM
If we come to the main question ,
question is Why U.S. administration does not recognize the International Criminal Court ?
It was not related to Bangladesh, pakistan or India.
Does the American treat Bangladesh as their model?
We want Bangladesh must ratify the ICC
Ah, a classic!

From a NO to a "we want Bagladesh ....". Of course Bangladesh, India, US, Israel and other countries don't show their support to the ICC. I was wondering if you knew why Bangladesh isn't a member, but I'm sure now that you don't.

Besides, I posted my thought about it in my first post.

jack
13-06-05, 10:10 PM
edit ... :o

wudjab
13-06-05, 10:53 PM
If we come to the main question ,
question is Why U.S. administration does not recognize the International Criminal Court ?
It was not related to Bangladesh, pakistan or India.
Does the American treat Bangladesh as their model?
We want Bangladesh must ratify the ICC

Why not, does not Bangladesh have anything worthwhile to emulate ?

The US does not ratify the agreement for exactly the same reasons that Bangadesh does not.

Why does Bangladesh not ratify it ?

Solafa
13-06-05, 11:06 PM
sallam,,,,,



It's Amazing how some can run away from answering a question by asking another question?!!!!!!!!!!!! :think: :mmhmm:

Would that indicate that they don't have an answer, and not to let themselves down they are trying to challenge with a question!!!!!!!!!!!! :scold:

Shinoda LP
14-06-05, 01:41 AM
sallam,,,,,



It's Amazing how some can run away from answering a question by asking another question?!!!!!!!!!!!! :think: :mmhmm:

Would that indicate that they don't have an answer, and not to let themselves down they are trying to challenge with a question!!!!!!!!!!!! :scold:
Its also amazing how someone answers in a thread, without having an answer to either of the 2 questions (the initial or the second), but just to say something totally un-related.

Solafa, I already mention in my second post that I probably thought "that" was the reason. I never got a reply on that and Shamsery kept dodging in and out, on whether Bangladesh was a member or not.