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toxic_honey 10-06-05, 04:17 AM His Majesty Sultan Qaboos bin Said has ordered pardon to 31 civilian prisoners who were convicted of being members of a banned secret organisation and accused of attempting to overthrow the government by force and set an imama rule.
His Majesty the Sultan announced the pardon upon his arrival at the airport from a trip to Kuwait yesterday.
The State Security Court last month sentenced the 31 Omanis to between one and 20 years in jail.
They were also convicted of conducting military training, arming members with weapons obtained illegally and holding recruitment sessions.
The convicts who will be acquitted on the royal pardon included Saleh bin Saleem bin Saleh Al Rubkhi, 45; Yousuf bin Ibrahim bin Said Al Sarhani, 44; Mohammed bin Sulaiman bin Mohammed Al Shaili, 50; Humaid bin Mohammed bin Sulaiman Al Yahmadi, 45; Saleh bin Rashid bin Ali Al Ma’amari, 48; and Khamis bin Rashid bin Said Al A’dawi, 39, who were sentenced to 20 years’ imprisonment.
And those who were sentenced to 10-year imprisonment included Mohammed bin Salim bin Mohammed Al Harthy, 40; Mohammed bin Saif bin Hamad Al Rawahi, 49; Nassir bin Sulaiman bin Said Al Sabei, 37; Khalifa bin Ahmed bin Humaid Al Qassabi, 42, Abdullah bin Said bin Khalfan Al Ma’amari, 33; Ali bin Hilal bin Mohammed Al Abri, 45; Hilal bin Yahya bin Zaid Al Ismaeili, 43; Khalifa bin Said bin Nassir Al Busaidi, 35; Abdul Hameed bin Mohammed bin Harib Al Habsi, 33; Mohammed bin Khamis bin Ali Al Shamsi, 30; Mahmoud bin Mohammed bin Sulaiman Al A’zri, 31; and Abdul Aziz bin Yahya bin Ahmed Al Kindi, 44.
Other who will now be exonerated on the orders of His Majesty the Sultan include Kahlan bin Nabhan bin Abdul Rahman Al Kharousi, 33; Jabir bin Ali bin Hamoud Al Sa’di, 40; Mohammed bin Rashid bin Saleh Al Gharbi, 37; Khalid bin Salim bin Nassir Al Khawaldi, 31; Mohammed bin Zahir bin Said Al Abri, 38; Said bin Sultan bin Mohammed Al Khanjri, 50; Salim bin Ali bin A’Shain Al Na’mani, 39; Said bin Saif bin Salim Al Ma’awali, 45; Yaqoob bin Yousef bin Nassir Al A’zri, 35; Abdullah bin Yahya bin Ahmed Al Kindi, 35; Said bin Abdullah bin Sallam Al Saqri, 35; and Saif bin Salim bin Ali Al Busaidi, 31, who were sentenced to seven-year imprisonment.
Nassir bin Sulaiman bin Mohammed Al Shaili, 47, who was sentenced to one year in jail will also be set free as per the royal pardon. — ONA
so what do u think is it a good smart move from HM sulatan Qaboos?
Pineapple Thief 10-06-05, 04:21 AM Hi Toxic, can we have a link to the website where u got this info? :)
toxic_honey 10-06-05, 04:24 AM ya sure :cute:
this is it (http://www.timesofoman.com/newsdetails.asp?newsid=16457)
Pineapple Thief 10-06-05, 04:39 AM thanks!!!!
So in "1 month" they went from a threat to the Omani government some given sentences of 20 years ... to rehabilitated members of society?
Are they on probation or anything of that nature?
I'm really not being an @ss here. I just don't understand this.
Muscati 10-06-05, 10:58 AM I wouldn't argue against His Majesty's wisdom, but these people were sentenced for treason. I don't think most of us would have been upset if they served their full sentences.
Desert_Sloath 10-06-05, 12:24 PM So in "1 month" they went from a threat to the Omani government some given sentences of 20 years ... to rehabilitated members of society?
Are they on probation or anything of that nature?
I'm really not being an @ss here. I just don't understand this.
couldn't agree more. am even more :os
may be about time too we have a human rights representation on ground .
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I think it's a good move. It shows how big a heart HM has. We should remember how the pope John Paul II famously forgave his assassinator by visiting him in jail and forgiving him for shooting on the pope.
I think a show of kindness does change people, big time. If they still dont change, then perhaps the second time around they shouldnt be pardoned.
shamsery 10-06-05, 07:08 PM I adore your comment Mr Abs.
Thug4Life 10-06-05, 07:44 PM Such a great father (H.M.) to us all Omanies...wiuth this extreem generousity I find my self tongue tied not able to express how I do adore him.
May ALLAH Bless H.M..for Oman for Us ...
H.M indeed has a Very very Big heart!..
shamsery 10-06-05, 08:13 PM edited------------------------By thugy
Thug4Life 10-06-05, 08:36 PM With all due respect mr pinnochio your question (that been edited) is totaly irrelevent to this topic NOR will add anything but to provoke us all!
I will ask you to restrain from such actions and consider this as a last notice.
Thank you
Mr Tickle 10-06-05, 08:41 PM I am restrained
(its a tad painful)
Shinoda LP 10-06-05, 08:42 PM Why were some pardoned and others not? I mean, surely, some were part of the main think-tank while the others just obeyed orders or so ... but, shouldn't they serve some kind of sentence? :think:
Mr Tickle 10-06-05, 08:49 PM they should go down..........
Desert_Sloath 10-06-05, 08:52 PM I think it's a good move. It shows how big a heart HM has. We should remember how the pope John Paul II famously forgave his assassinator by visiting him in jail and forgiving him for shooting on the pope.
I think a show of kindness does change people, big time. If they still dont change, then perhaps the second time around they shouldnt be pardoned.
The ONLY difference here is that H.M. did pardon those who did him wrong before John Paul II was wronged. 'I hope' this time they changed.
Wish there was a poll as there seems a mixed reaction.
I missed pinnochio's deleted remarks what a pitty :(
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Desert_Sloath 10-06-05, 08:54 PM I am restrained
(its a tad painful)
'refrain' perhaps as an option mr pinno ?
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Mr Tickle 10-06-05, 09:04 PM Sloth,
Are you saying that HM based his actions on the Pope?
If so, why did it take him so much longer?
shamsery 10-06-05, 09:18 PM I missed pinnochio's deleted remarks what a pitty :(
I must say, your are fortunate.
Muscati 10-06-05, 09:46 PM Why were some pardoned and others not?
All 31 were pardoned.
There is definitely a "catch" ! His HM is too smart and I am sure he is planning something. It is the only logical thing to do.
Shinoda LP 10-06-05, 10:09 PM I was reading a news report on BBC on this issue, where it was mentioned that 200 Islamists were arrested back in 1994 and were convicted and sentenced to jail time and even death penalty ... but, later on, all of them were pardoned. :os
This surely does show that the Majesty has a big heart, but why does he tend to pardon all of the convicts? Surely it has to be one of the 3:-
1) There were arrested wrongly, in the first place!
2) The courts that convicted them passed wrong sentences!
3) The Majesty doesn't believe any terrorist related activity shall happen in Oman!
Also, why is the common Omani citizen happy about pardoning convicts? :os
Am I missing something?
Desert_Sloath 11-06-05, 05:47 PM Sloth,
Are you saying that HM based his actions on the Pope?
If so, why did it take him so much longer?
C'mon pinnochio you know very well what I mean. And if you want me to elaborate i am happy to do so. His Majesty's position in-the hearts of most of his subjects is a very special one. On simple minded guys would often be mislead. In the early seventies my father told me that His Majesty purdoned those who ploted against his rule et seq. And if you don't know, which i very much doubt, just have a go at one of mimosa's replies here in the Sabla bolitics and you'll suffice for your self on sequences of pardons that took place in Oman. My dad told me that in the seventies there became a famous saying taken from His Majesty's speach "Afa`Allah A`ma Salaf". That is the essence of Islam and being the last revelation to mankind it is no doubt the teachings of GOD to which the Pope is a man of religion. So this is how Leaders who fear Allah DO 4give. They forgive when they have the ability to do so.
I wonder whether Bush`anab and Blair could stop corrupting this world and show mercy to the sufferings of those harmless Iraqis and stop trading hate between Immigrant Jews versus Indigenious Palestinians Jews-Christian-Muslims. They Blair and Bush claim they are good Christians aren't they mr pinnochio ? Let them prove it or learn from His Majesty The Sultan to whom we pray to leave in peace - Amin.
The purdoned and the likes of them who are sick-hearted ought to do their homework more. They ought to realise and appreciate the fact that ours is a welfare state.
GOD BLESS
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Desert_Sloath 11-06-05, 05:55 PM I was reading a news report on BBC on this issue, where it was mentioned that 200 Islamists were arrested back in 1994 and were convicted and sentenced to jail time and even death penalty ... but, later on, all of them were pardoned. :os
This surely does show that the Majesty has a big heart, but why does he tend to pardon all of the convicts? Surely it has to be one of the 3:-
1) There were arrested wrongly, in the first place!
2) The courts that convicted them passed wrong sentences!
3) The Majesty doesn't believe any terrorist related activity shall happen in Oman!
Also, why is the common Omani citizen happy about pardoning convicts? :os
Am I missing something?
you don't know :blush: but thnx
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ToomuchaT 11-06-05, 06:33 PM .. i always admired to reulers.. baba Qaboos and baba Zayied *alah yira7moh* .. i think those two guys represent the great rules of the new age ..
.. the only thing im sure of it that HM wouldnt just take decisions on the fly.. there is always a strong basis to consider for his decisions..
.. at the end of the day we are all humen and we all do mistakes .. and there are always a good person who would pardon us and a bad person who wouldnt!
.. also we all deserve a second chance.. and to feel how great is this just put urself in such posion and do ur calculations!
MAWLANA JALATULSULTAN is a compassionate persona & the whole of Oman Thank him for his good will gesture in pardoning these convicts
Arabian Princess 13-06-05, 01:17 PM 1) There were arrested wrongly, in the first place!
2) The courts that convicted them passed wrong sentences!
3) The Majesty doesn't believe any terrorist related activity shall happen in Oman!
Also, why is the common Omani citizen happy about pardoning convicts?
Am I missing something?
those people are convicted to over-throw the ruling system. The person concerned here is HM only .. he is the head of that system. its a state related crime, and he is the head of the state ... so he can pardon any convicted person.
People are happy because it shows how kind he is .. those people are well known .. so people know thier family, kids and spouses .. it hurt them to see those suffering. This is basicly why I would feel happy for thier release.
Fast_HacKinG 13-06-05, 03:35 PM Congrats and thanks to Mawlana Qaboos :) Allah ya7f'6a mn kel elshroor wi elma'qaeed. Allah 3ala el'6almeen kabeer!
Shinoda LP 13-06-05, 09:59 PM those people are convicted to over-throw the ruling system. The person concerned here is HM only .. he is the head of that system. its a state related crime, and he is the head of the state ... so he can pardon any convicted person.
Thanks for the reply, AP! :)
What caught my attention is the bold-ed part. Won't the people of Oman suffer if something like this happens, or is it the HM only?
My only concern is, if none who has ever been convicted of such a crime has ever been jailed, then who knows if something bad eventually happens ... to only make people repent in the future.
I won't voice my concern about this again, in light of how a few Omanis replied ... :)
CrazyReD 13-06-05, 10:28 PM I do know of people who were jailed and not pardoned
Shinoda LP 14-06-05, 01:43 AM I do know of people who were jailed and not pardoned
For state related crimes like planning to over-throw the government or organizing a coup, or for crimes like theft, murder or conspiring one?
CrazyReD 14-06-05, 01:45 AM for political reasons
Pineapple Thief 14-06-05, 05:57 AM It seems you cant really win. If they arent pardoned, a leader is 'not giving the people the right to freedom of expression' and if he does forgive them then its something else.
Dont you notice?
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