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shamsery 10-06-05, 12:48 AM United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan, in a report to the U.N. Security Council on Wednesday, said that in Iraq, "one of the major human rights challenges remains the detention of thousands of persons without due process."
"Despite the release of some detainees, their number continues to grow. Prolonged detention without access to lawyers and courts is prohibited under international law including during states of emergency,"
But the military said such criticism was wrong, insisting Iraqi detainees were having their cases reviewed promptly either through referral to Iraq's central criminal court or by a joint U.S.-Iraqi prisoner review board.
About 10,000 people are currently in detention in Iraq, around 6,000 in U.S.-run prisons and the rest in Iraqi hands.
A Security Council resolution adopted a year ago ending the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq let the U.S. military keep taking and holding prisoners even after the June 2004 handover of power, in apparent contradiction of the Geneva conventions.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050609/wl_nm/iraq_un_detainees_dc
The U.S. military on Thursday rejected U.N. criticism of its detainee policies in Iraq, saying all prisoners had access to due legal process and their rights under the Geneva Conventions were being respected.
Who is speaking truth? Kofi Annan or US authority ? Has Kofi Annan joined with Al Quaida?
Hold the press ...
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Ohh it is a joke :rolleyes: just like the previous post!
Agree entirely.
Coffee Or None is a liar.
shamsery 10-06-05, 02:13 AM Agree entirely.
Coffee Or None is a liar.
Has Kofi Annan joined with Al Quaida?
Has Kofi Annan joined with Al Quaida?No ... he is in hot water and he will use the UN bulley pulpit to his fullest advantage.
You know the old oil for food thingy ... it ain't gone away and he knows it :rolleyes:
shamsery 10-06-05, 02:07 PM stick to the topic.
You will never learn.
That is the question of the topic:
Who is speaking truth? Kofi Annan or US authority ? Has Kofi Annan joined with Al Quaida?
Pineapple Thief 10-06-05, 02:16 PM So I dont get it. Theres a conflict between the US and Kofi Annan.
And we are in a position to make assumptions about whos correct? We're judging Kofi because of his oil for food thing, but if thats the case, its all too easy to use that against the US. Jack, you all but admitted that the US lies in wartime, and has the right to do so. How is this different?
shamsery 10-06-05, 02:41 PM Theres a conflict between the US and Kofi Annan.
Mr PT,
Kofi represent UNO. He is the spokesman of UNO, CEO of UNO.
"Sixty years ago, out of the ashes of the Second World War, a new world order came into being, putting respect for human rights alongside peace, security and development as the primary objectives of the UN. Today, the UN appears unable and unwilling to hold its member states to account". That should not be the case. The UN should take a serious note of the criticism leveled against it, and change for the better. For, it still is the "best hope of achieving freedom and justice for all humanity".
Thats all Mr PT.
Mr Tickle 10-06-05, 08:20 PM Sham,
Seeing as you love Kofi - do you agree with his following comments:
"I urge the Iraqi leadership for sake of its own people... to seize this opportunity and thereby begin to end the isolation and suffering of the Iraqi people".
"Iraq has a new opportunity to comply with all these relevant resolutions of the Security Council".
"Many African leaders refuse to send their troops on peace keeping missions abroad because they probably need their armies to intimidate their own populations".
"More countries have understood that women's equality is a prerequisite for development".
MoonShine 10-06-05, 10:26 PM What about Kofi and the Sudan there Mr. Shammy? Is he a liar on that also?
shamsery 11-06-05, 03:23 PM Having no idea about Sudan and I don't take part , hope yuou have noticed.
We are talking about Kofi and Iraq ,Please.
So I dont get it. Theres a conflict between the US and Kofi Annan.
And we are in a position to make assumptions about whos correct? We're judging Kofi because of his oil for food thing, but if thats the case, its all too easy to use that against the US. Jack, you all but admitted that the US lies in wartime, and has the right to do so. How is this different?No I didn't almost admit ... "I said it is acceptable and at times necessary ... in times of war. Same as mohammad told his soldiers that it is alright to deceive ie:disinformation ... aka:lie ... in times of war.
Show me a nation that has not done this and will not do this... in times of war and I'll show you a liar ;)
Now Kofi Anan is not any nations leader and he is not at "war" with any nation. He is trying to save his own hide by using the UN bully pulpit that is supposed to represent all member nations.
Mr Tickle 17-06-05, 01:49 PM Ok, lets stick to Kofi and Iraq:
"I urge the Iraqi leadership for sake of its own people... to seize this opportunity and thereby begin to end the isolation and suffering of the Iraqi people".
"Iraq has a new opportunity to comply with all these relevant resolutions of the Security Council".
Don't you agree?
Secretary-General Kofi Annan has urged nations to reassure Iraq that it has the world's support as Iraqis try to rebuild and secure their country.
"You send an important message which I hope is heard loud and clear both in Iraq and elsewhere: The international community supports the "government" and the people of Iraq, and we are determined that the reconstruction of Iraq ... must succeed," he said Wednesday, according to The Associated Press.
Annan was speaking in Brussels at the opening of a one-day international conference on Iraq, where Iraqi leaders are meeting senior officials from more than 80 nations and organizations.Now which government is Kofi talking about ...?
The one he said was installed by his previous "illegal" war comment or saddams government?
I think they're probably both right (or wrong). Thre are thousands of detainees who have not yet had access to due process? Well, given the state of the Iraqi legal system, which remember, hasn't established a new national legal code yet, it's not entirely surprising.
The question is whether this is delayed access to due legal process through administrative limitations of the legal system, or a policy to detain detainees this process. The US say they have no policy to that effect, and are trying to move things along. And Mr Annan did not accuse them of doing this deliberately.
There is not always such a big difference of opinion just because the emphasis is different.
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