''Britain and America had to create conditions to justify a war."

“The intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy”
Intelligence was manipulated to fool the American people and to lead the United States to war.
War was waged on a bunch of lie
Saddam was not linked with 9/11
Saddam hadn’t connection with Al Quaida
Iraq hadn’t any WMD
The United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan has told the US-led invasion of Iraq was an illegal act that contravened the UN charter.
Vice President Chenny announce that the war may run till 2009
Achieving Real Victory Could Take Decades: Gen. John Abizaid
Intention of waging war was to change of regime and installed a puppet Government by hook or crook
Intention of waging war is for spreading democracy and free economy in ME
Intention of waging war is nothing but infiltration of cultural colonialism to make you modern civilized people as American desire

Any different opinion, let us examine.

The most important thing we have learnt is that Sham is one a one-track anti US Neo Imperialism mission (whatever that means) and that he is not here to learn.

The most important thing we have learnt is that Sham is one a one-track anti US Neo Imperialism mission (whatever that means)

Never disagreed with your thesis



and that he is not here to learn.

To be honest, I offer me to your perusal and announce loudly, have all the wishes to learn your good deeds in political arena that you did during the last century.
Now, can you reply to my questions , please?

Sham,

You are unable to accept that the US can do anything right

You are unabke to acceot that a Muslim can ever be blamed for amything directly

Yup, you are here to learn

Sham,

You are unable to accept that the US can do anything right

You are absolutely wrong. As far politics, show me the American good deeds.

Qoute;When the powerful begin to be willfully indifferent or insensitive to well established and expected norms of conduct and not merely for expediency, we have good reasons to worry and wonder. Unquote


Sham,
You are unabke to acceot that a Muslim can ever be blamed for amything directly


Muslim! Where they are?

You are absolutely wrong. As far politics, show me the American good deeds.






Muslim! Where they are?

As for Islam, show us it's latest great deed or deeds.

Tick tock tick tock.

That's what I thought. Islam has offered nothing to this world for centuries.

Quit blaming the us for EVERYTHING.

Quit blaming the us for EVERYTHING.

Not blaming but looking for your reply.
Do you have?
I think you can't.

"What we have learnt till now."

1. We have learned that there are muslims (at this time the # is still unknown)that have the will, funds and training to kill in the name of Allah all over the world to furthur their imperalistic version of Islam.

2. We have learned that this is not only Al-Queda, but many organizations worldwide and also including the common muslim on the street.



http://jihadwatch.org/

"They are taking everyday American Muslim families and making them suspects," fumed CAIR's Rabiah Ahmed about Fox's 24. Yeah, it never happens that everyday American Muslim families get mixed up in jihad. Just keep repeating, a la King Lear: never, never, never, never, never.

"Fifth Man Arrested in California Terror Probe," from Fox News, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Five men, including two father-and-son pairs, have now been arrested as federal law enforcement officers try to determine whether they have uncovered a network of Al Qaeda supporters in Northern California.
Father and son Umer and Hamid Hayat were arrested over the weekend in Lodi, Calif., on criminal charges. Three Pakistani citizens are also being held on immigration violations. Lodi is an agricultural community 40 miles south of Sacramento.

Federal investigators were also pursuing leads related to the arrests in Sacramento and San Francisco, a federal law enforcement official told FOX News.

Two law enforcement sources have confirmed to FOX News that there is a connection between the Hayats and the Pakistani citizens.

Hamid allegedly received terrorist training and funding from the father, an ice cream truck driver, so he could carry out attacks on hospitals and large food stores in the United States. But FBI officials on Wednesday backed away from specific information regarding any type of planned attacks."

"What we have learnt till now."

Please take a note.
The U.S. government is our "child," and we have a duty to make sure that child acts appropriately. The men and women in the U.S. military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." I believe all Americans should make a similar commitment.

Who is a threat to the Constitution? Not terrorists. They can kill people and destroy property, but they can't amend our founding document. They can't suspend the basic guarantees of the Bill of Rights. Only our government can do that. When our leaders hold people at Guantanamo Bay without revealing their identities, without letting them talk to lawyers, without giving them trials, without presenting evidence that would prove that they're terrorists, then they're violating the Constitution.

If we citizens don't do something, the behavior will only get worse.

Last week, I criticized the Guantanamo Bay prison, and dozens of people questioned why I was defending the terrorists who were being held there.

That's my point. Unless there is a judicial process to determine the status of each prisoner, then it's impossible for us (or the government) to know whether a particular prisoner is a terrorist, a man who was simply defending his town against an invading army or someone who just happened to be in the wrong place when the Americans arrived.
Published on Friday, June 10, 2005 by the Denver Post .
http://www.denverpost.com/

As for Islam, show us it's latest great deed or deeds.

maybe the muslims don't ... the americans definetly didn't
but thats not the points ... islam wasn't the one that running everywhere killing innocents like maniacs ...

idiots ...