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shamsery
06-06-05, 02:44 AM
The United States continues to descend into barbarism on all fronts, foreign and domestic. The best domestic barometer of barbarism is the size of the prison population, which actually reflects the levels of civilization among the rulers of society. By that measure, the U.S. has long been the most backward society in the world, and getting worse by the year. The Bureau of Statistics of the Justice Department has announced new figures, which show that America is racing into madness, with 2.1 million people incarcerated. On a per capita basis, that’s five times the rate in Great Britain, and twelve times that of Japan.
The United States would be a world incarceration leader, even if it were not a racist society. But racism puts this country in a class of its own, when it comes to imprisonment. About half of the 2.1 million people behind bars are Black – proof positive of the racist nature of the American criminal justice system. A huge proportion of prisoners are there on drug convictions. Studies show that Blacks are no more prone to take drugs, than whites – about 14 percent. But three quarters of the drug offenders in prison, are Black. There’s some real black magic going on among police, prosecutors, and judges. Much more to the point, there is a deep race hatred at the core of the white society that produces these police, prosecutors and judges, and elects the politicians who have constructed the American Gulag. This white national characteristic is even more hideous, when it is realized that the perpetrators – the white body politic – are oblivious to the ghastly crime they are committing against Black society, through mass incarceration. They are destroying Black social structures, root and branch, by methodically imprisoning Black youth. And yet, in this era of hyper morality fulminations, there is little discussion of this great moral crime. We are witnessing hypocrisy on a biblical scale.
Washington, DC, provides the most telling indictment of the American system of injustice: It seems that whites can’t even get arrested in the nation’s capitol, where Blacks are 29 times more likely to go to prison, than Caucasians. The racial disparity in imprisonment is more severe in the North, than in the South. In New Jersey and Connecticut, Blacks are incarcerated at 13 times the rate of whites. Right behind them are Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin. These are not places where Blacks make up much of the social landscape, outside of the central cities – which means that police are arresting Blacks at every opportunity, wherever and whenever they can find them, mainly on drug-related charges.
Yet we know that the so-called American heartland is saturated with methamphetamines, drugs that make you crazy. Why aren’t the jails of Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin filling up with white meth freaks? The answer is: because that would produce a social crisis, calling mass incarceration into question as a national policy. But few white people question why Blacks make up half of the American Gulag. And the only answer to that riddle is, most white people think Blacks should be locked up, for whatever reason, or for no reason, at all. For Radio BC, I’m Glen Ford.
http://www.blackcommentator.com/radio_bc/042905/042905_radio_bc_text.html
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wudjab
06-06-05, 04:14 AM
What is the meaning of gulag

To understand the issues, one must understand the terms correctly.

Please tell us what you mean by GULAG ?

shamsery
06-06-05, 02:44 PM
Focus on the text.
Anyway,
Main Entry: gu·lag
Pronunciation: 'gü-"läg
Function: noun
Usage: often capitalized
Etymology: Russian, from Glavnoe upravlenie ispravitel'no-trudovykh lagerei chief administration of corrective labor camps
: the penal system of the U.S.S.R. consisting of a network of labor camps; also : LABOR CAMP 1

http://www.britannica.com/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Gulag&query=Gulag

wudjab
06-06-05, 07:00 PM
Sorry, if you have a topic with a heading "The Barbaric American Gulag" , then the definition of the word Gulag is critical. We cannot, unfortunately, sweep it under the carpet as you wish.

Gulag

Gulag, system of forced-labor prison camps in the USSR, from the Russian acronym [GULag] for the Main Directorate of Corrective Labor Camps, a department of the Soviet secret police (originally the Cheka; subsequently the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD, and finally the KGB). The Gulag was first established under Vladimir Lenin during the early Bolshevik years (c.1920). The vast penal network, which ultimately included 476 camp complexes, functioned throughout Russia, many in the wastes of Siberia and the Soviet Far East. The system reached its peak after 1928 under Joseph Stalin, who used it to maintain the Soviet state by keeping its populace in a state of terror. Gulag deaths of both political prisoners and common criminals from overwork, starvation, and other forms of maltreatment are estimated to have been in the millions during Stalin's years in power.

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0921567.html

Perhaps the best known of the Gulag camp complexes was Kolyma, an area in the Far East about six times the size of France that contained more than 100 camps. About three million are thought to have died there from its establishment in 1931 to 1953, the year of Stalin's death. The Gulag scheme was adapted into the infamous concentration camp system used during World War II, especially as Nazi death factories. The Soviet system was publicized in the writings of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, particularly in his book The Gulag Archipelago (1973, tr. 1974). Millions were released from the Gulag under Nikita Khrushchev, and the system was finally abolished by Mikhail Gorbachev

Now your article calls american prisons a gulag.

The Soviet gulag, by contrast, was a massive forced labor complex consisting of thousands of concentration camps and hundreds of exile villages through which more than 20 million people passed during Stalin's lifetime and whose existence was not acknowledged until after his death. Its modern equivalent is not Guantanamo Bay, but the prisons of Cuba, where Amnesty itself says a new generation of prisoners of conscience reside; or the labor camps of North Korea, which were set up on Stalinist lines; or China's laogai , the true size of which isn't even known; or, until recently, the prisons of Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

This is the real gulag today.

http://www.hrnk.org/hiddengulag/toc.html

Just some more misinformation from the master of Taqiya.

shamsery
06-06-05, 10:43 PM
Do you have anything to say on the text?

wudjab
06-06-05, 11:57 PM
Sorry, the whole article is based on a false premise. It compares the American prison system with the system of Gulags in the Soviet Union which was used to stiffle dissent and in which millions of those incarcerated died.

So this article is not worthy of comment.

shamsery
07-06-05, 06:48 PM
You mean, the rteport is not true?

wudjab
07-06-05, 07:21 PM
Who cares ? The article is based on a false premise... comparing the US penal system with the network of incarceration camps in the Soviet Union called the Gulag.

There can be no discussion when the basic premise is faulty.

Mr Tickle
07-06-05, 08:18 PM
what is a barbaric american gulag?

shamsery
08-06-05, 08:30 PM
what is a barbaric american gulag?

Do you have anything say on the content?

“Some have asked me why I, and others, keep writing our articles on the internet - it is because we have to keep speaking aloud so that others who have the same thoughts who do not write or speak for a variety of reasons, realize that they are not alone in their vision of truth and that they are not wrong because they can't believe the talk shows and their incessant distortions of truth.”

wudjab
08-06-05, 08:50 PM
Poor Jeff Rense.

Now people are stealing his writings without even acknowledging him as the source.

http://www.rense.com/general60/updie.htm

shamsery
08-06-05, 09:49 PM
Very sad, hiding from the trouth.

“By avoiding the fact you will walk over the corpses of at least 100,000 people, most of them innocent women and children and the elderly, slaughtered by rapacious forces sent by Blair and Bush, unprovoked and in defiance of international law, to a defenseless country.”

wudjab
09-06-05, 07:21 PM
same old lie.

been there, done that.