Four years ago, George W. Bush accepted the Republican nomination for President, and famously set the moral tone - and expectations for his presidency:
"So when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not only uphold the laws of our land, I will swear to uphold the honor and dignity of the office to which I have been elected, so help me God."
the office to which I have been elected, so help me God."
It has not, of course, worked out that way. As we pointed out long ago, the Bush administration has been the most secretive, paranoid, deceitful and vengeful since the Nixon White House. To illustrate his sad record of deception, cowardice and vindictiveness, Perrspectives regretfully offers the "Bush Top 10 Flip-Flops" below:
http://www.perrspectives.com/features/Bush10Flips.htm

Beside international issue there are domestic issue too.
If you like , click on the link and discuss.

Like not keeping an one hour time limit on a press conference. You gotta be kidding me ...

Besides, you sure are impressive digging up such obscure reports/articles from all corners of the internet, to attempt to disgrace the American government ... I am seriously impressed! :)

Like not keeping an one hour time limit on a press conference. You gotta be kidding me ...

Besides, you sure are impressive digging up such obscure reports/articles from all corners of the internet, to attempt to disgrace the American government ... I am seriously impressed! :)

It would be my pleasure, if you dig up all good effort of American Government that benefit the Muslim world.
If you can?
I didn’t find due to my limitation of knowledge.
It has become important to expose American Government attitude to our next generation.
There is no hide and seek.

It would be my pleasure, if you dig up all good effort of American Government that benefit the Muslim world.
If you can?
I didn’t find due to my limitation of knowledge.
It has become important to expose American Government attitude to our next generation.
There is no hide and seek.

Don't worry about the next generation. They're already brain washed, at tons of different places of the world to last at least a few more generations down the line ... but yeah, good luck with your mission. :)

It would be my pleasure, if you dig up all good effort of American Government that benefit the Muslim world.

And why should the American Government do anything to specifically benefit the moslem world ? Is the moslem world unique that it needs special treatment ?

What has the moslem world done specifically to benefit the rest of humanity ?

(fortunately, you exposed your religious bais with your last comment)

ur righ wudjab whats so unique about the muslim worlds\ that makes alll pple want to live , invade , invest ( wait its called steal right? ) their money and their power in ?

Don't worry about the next generation. They're already brain washed, at tons of different places of the world to last at least a few more generations down the line ... but yeah, good luck with your mission. :)

When there are friends like you the people , why I shall be worried?
Did you understand my mission to day?

(fortunately, you exposed your religious bais with your last comment)
Are you really new on the board?

which moslem countries are you talking about, cute one ?

Did you understand my mission to day?

None of us can. Thats part of what worries us, here.

which moslem countries are you talking about, cute one ?


depending on what kind of interference ..

I would say Iraq .. Palestine , Afghanistan , Bosnia/chechna ....any small africian poor muslim country ...

Thats just the top of the ice berg

Iraq - There at the request of the intermin govenment. Will leave once your jehadi friends stop blowing things up.

Afghanistan ? See answer above.

Palestine - The US is in Palestine ? On which planet ?

Chechnya - See answer above.

Bosnia - The US were the people who saved the moslems from slaughter !

Small African countries - please name ONE.

this just backs what i said some time ago that we make the us look like evil true they arn't no saints but they did help bosnia and chechnya. I'm just suprised by the @$$ kissing the us does to isreal but oh well

so the jehadi friends started the blowing things up iin Iraq , Afghanistan and chechnya and
and then the americians came to save them ? .

America never helped Bosnia during the war against serbia ..it was after the 8000 excustions Nato came in late to save them .

but ur i guess u were right about africian countries it would be more of europian invasions .....

wait i forgot about palestine ???

who is the ''peacemaker'' of the invasion of israel in palestine again ?

Cute_One,

So US was supposed to help Bosnia before anything drastic happens? Pre-emptively help other countries with the American tax payer's money ... I don't think even you would agree to do that, if Oman started helping other countries like that.

About the African countries, whats on your mind. Point out exactly ...

Peacemaker's totally different from establishing a base or so-called 'invading' a country ... so, sorry, the example of Palestine just kills your theory.

actually there was no theory.

just some more of the usual 'moslems are the victims' hyperbole.

Shino ... Somaliaz invsasion was in mind ... when i mentioned it ...

i called it invading .. other pple call it a country depends how u c it ... still doesnt kill the theory of americia being the peacemaker of these 2 ...

Us made a promise to save bosnia but came when mostly everything was killed ..

see thats the things 'the promises of making a better world is not suitable for the americian government

see thats the things 'the promises of making a better world is not suitable for the americian government

When all there is, is darkness, even the most dim of lights is a source of inspiration.

Which other country out there even attempts to help out other countries in such situations?

Hold on, are we actually debating the fact that the US has a military presence on almost every strategic location in the world? And if not military, then some other influence?


Come on, thats like debating the shape of the earth.

Hold on, are we actually debating the fact that the US has a military presence on almost every strategic location in the world? And if not military, then some other influence?


Come on, thats like debating the shape of the earth.

Sure it does. I was just countering the 'invading' part of the equation ...

True or not ... even when a person helps another person, wouldn't they at least sublimely want something in return? I see it as reciprocation, sometimes in a bad manner and its not always good ... but, when one country is constantly criticized for not helping or for helping other countries, its easier to get to the ground zero if they have a base near-by, correct?

When all there is, is darkness, even the most dim of lights is a source of inspiration.

Which other country out there even attempts to help out other countries in such situations?

I believe the Scandinavian countries provide lots of aid, GDP-wise.
And I dont think they have strings attached.

No opening of markets. No liberalisation of economies. No divide and conquer tactics. They arent interested in exerting influence around the globe.

Please. Nobody can possibly believe the US has only the most altruistic desires: thats ********. They help others because its in their interest to help.

Oops..did I say the word interest? Theres that, too. Give with one hand, take with the other. Third world countries cant even pay back the interest on their loans from the world bank. Relief is provided - with conditions.

Thats not aid, thats blackmail. Its slavery on a global (and, shall we say, corporate) scale.

Yeah, the US throws some aid around, because thats because, well who knows? Image? Some altruism? Or is it perhaps the same kinda situation as the tsunami, where everyone was competing to show how much better they were than others? We even saw that on this board 'ooh my country gave more than yours, we're better'.

All I know is that, if you look at the figures relatively, the amount of aid that the US provides is quite low, compared to their GDP.

see helping out of their own financial benifit makes a big difference ...and i wish it was for thier own pple ... it was their so called peice administration

but then again its not only their mistake .. its the mistake of the pple who associate with them and help them finanically to give them this power..

Sure it does. I was just countering the 'invading' part of the equation ...

True or not ... even when a person helps another person, wouldn't they at least sublimely want something in return? I see it as reciprocation, sometimes in a bad manner and its not always good ... but, when one country is constantly criticized for not helping or for helping other countries, its easier to get to the ground zero if they have a base near-by, correct?


Yes it is, but its also easier to exert your influence on local politics when you have a few thousand armed and dangerous soldiers on their soil :)

Very true and did I ever say that US wasn't spreading their influence through their presence at International bases? :)

I'm sure you'd agree that no matter how much good anyone does, its always the bad causes/intentions that one's remembered for. For whatever reasons, a common Afghani women surely is happier living in Afghan now under a so-called puppet government and with American presence in Afghanistan, than earliar.

A common man wouldn't care about if US is gaining more than his country-men, if a brutal regime was just over-thrown and peace is being restored. If the Americans and Brits linger around once everythings settled, then I wouldn't like that situation. Hell, I found it odd walking into Americans almost everywhere during the Gulf war ...

My point simply is ... its not down right right or wrong. Its a mix between both ... and whatever ratio its being mixed in, each should be recognized rather than ignorantly, simply hating the US or any other country for that matter, no matter what. :)

Oops..did I say the word interest? Theres that, too. Give with one hand, take with the other. Third world countries cant even pay back the interest on their loans from the world bank. Relief is provided - with conditions.I don't see a single country crying about getting this money (only crying they want more) ... or a single country paying any of this money back.

That's what I love about people with their hand out ... their loving gratitude. :rolleyes:

A dog bites my hand when feeding him and he'll have to find a meal elsewhere ... that's if he can walk with my foot in his ***.

Actually, many of these countries have paid back the full loan, but cannot afford to pay back the interest. And when they dont pay back the interest on the loan, it increases further and further.

When charity pop concerts for Africa are held in London or New York, the tens of millions raised are typically enough to pay the continent's interest bill for a few hours. In 1999, the developing countries excluding the Eastern block were more than $2,030 billion in debt to the developed world (Global Development Finance, 2001). In 2000, the IMF put the figure for total developing country debt at $2,140 billion (World Economic Outlook, 2000). Some $700 million per day now flows in debt repayment from the developing world to the developed world (UNDP Human Development Report, 1997).

http://www.theproblemwithinterest.com/pwi_terrorism.htm

In Tanzania, debt repayment was six times spending on healthcare, whilst in Uganda annual spending was £2 per person on healthcare and £11.50 per person on debt repayment (Jubilee 2000).




Debt is certainly a problem.

Debt is certainly a problem.Since that is such a burden ... no problem. We can solve that problem by not giving anymore loans. Imagine the things that the US can accomplish with this money spent on it's on population.

I'm sure the countries that receive these loans will be overjoyed to be relieved of this so-called terrorism.

actually there was no theory.

just some more of the usual 'moslems are the victims' hyperbole.
take your place in the first war of the 21st century."
As described by your Vice President , we have more than enough time to talk.

Did any one went through the link?

It would be my pleasure, if you dig up all good effort of American Government that benefit the Muslim world.

Or how about you dig up all good effort of islam the benefits the world.

Both quests would be difficult and would yield many, many results I assure you.