Rumsfeld Warns Countries Not to Help Zarqawi

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has warned countries near Iraq not to provide sanctuary or medical treatment to Iraq's al-Qaida leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who is believed to have been wounded by coalition forces.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-06-01-voa51.cfm

Don’t give asylum, that is ok.
Don’t give Medical treatment! ! !
How does it sound?

Rumsfeld Warns Countries Not to Help Zarqawi

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has warned countries near Iraq not to provide sanctuary or medical treatment to Iraq's al-Qaida leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who is believed to have been wounded by coalition forces.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-06-01-voa51.cfm

Don’t give asylum, that is ok.
Don’t give Medical treatment! ! !
How does it sound?

Sounds good to me.

Sounds good to me too.

I'll make it even more clear for you shams ...

Dead or Alive!

sounds extremely good to me too !

kill the sob.

Looking for other comment.

What other comment ? Getting rid of that scum sounds good to all of us.

While it would be nice for him to die in a pool of his own blood, I have to admit it does sound a little awkward. Yeah, we all want him dead, but we can't act on our desires. If we did, they should have shot Saddam and left him in that little hole.

However, if we are to act as human beings, and nations in wartime (which I assume this is...one nation is at war anyway) then the enemy combatant, prisoner of war, whatever u choose to call him, should be given medical treatment.

I understand I he said something along the lines of hold on to him for us, but let him die because of his wounds, or similar, is hardly fitting.

I don't think you can disagree with that. On the global stage, we can't act on our emotions.

Well Sahmmy, did you get your question answered?

Well Sahmmy, did you get your question answered?

Why hurry, notice your (4) replies.
Let us wait for some time.

However, if we are to act as human beings, and nations in wartime (which I assume this is...one nation is at war anyway) then the enemy combatant, prisoner of war, whatever u choose to call him, should be given medical treatment.

Sure, I totally agree with that. But, this guy's wanted for whatever crimes he's charged for ... should he be let into neighboring countries, where he can be medically examined to be fully fit to run away again?

I'm sure Saddam could have been shot in the head and the whole deal could have been published world-wide as a cross-firing incidence without all of us knowing what exactly happened. But, that didn't happen, did it? Saddam was found hiding in a spider hole and surrendered, obviously because he thought wise of not fighting his way through an army. This guy's on the run ... not surrendering ... the only way to make sure he stops running, is to cut out ways of him gaining his resources.

I have a question related to thread, What are the differences in-between human (Not mentioning Civilized) and beast?
Beg to be excused for my ignorance.

I have a question related to thread, What are the differences in-between human (Not mentioning Civilized) and beast?
Beg to be excused for my ignorance.

Many amongst which one is that the beast roams around nude, while the humans prefer covering themselves ... :(

Another attempt to run away from admitting or answering anything? The Muslim shield at another thread, difference between humanity and animls here ... wow!

But, that didn't happen, did it?

Keeping him alive has become boomerang for you.
There were lot of things in between and had different intention.
Dead Saddam could be proven more powerful than living Saddam.
Anyway , that not issue of the thread.

Another attempt to run away from admitting or answering anything?
Did you notice "I have a question related to thread.............."
Why hurry ?

Keeping him alive has become boomerang for you.
There were lot of things in between and had different intention.
Dead Saddam could be proven more powerful than living Saddam.
Anyway , that not issue of the thread.I hear we will have a chance to put these statements to a true test in a couple months. ;)

I'm looking forward to seeing if he was more powerful alive or dead.

Same with Zachy ... Alive or dead.
Same with osamy ... Alive or dead.

I hope its clear to you ... being alive now is a temperary status for these beast.

I hope its clear to you ... being alive now is a temperary status for these beast.
Like the host you mean.

The basic difference between human and beast /animal are consciousness, humanity, sense of justice, values.
To make the world safer, congenial, respectful, human has constituted laws and norms.
Medical professions are not out of that.
They are to take oath that they will serve human without raising any question of religion, cast, good or bad.
For criminal or outlaw they will provide medical assistance and will inform the law-enforcing agency.
Though there is war.
Though there are criminals, out laws.
There is law for every situation you may come across.
Civilized people rigidly follow that.
When a criminal under your prison, it’s your obligation and duty to ensure medical facility for them.
When you see a dead body, even it is your enemy; you take off your hat.
But when an Animal sees the dead body of other (there are exception) just jump upon the dead body and eat the flesh.
Others just ignore and go to its own way.
That is the difference.
When some one articulated such inhuman words and others support, I feel pity on them.
Fie on you, you claim, you are civilized.

The latest rumor ... (http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.173437230&par=)

Baghdad, 2 June (AKI) - The Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - al-Qaeda's leader in Iraq - died on Friday and his body is in Fallujah's cemetary, an Iraqi Sunni sheikh, Ammar Abdel Rahim Nasir, has told the Saudi on-line newspaper Al-Medina. He claims that gunfights which broke out in Fallujah in the last few days involved militants trying to protect the insurgency leader's tomb from a group of American soldiers patrolling the area.
During a telephone conversation from the city of Fallujah with the Saudi newspaper, Nasir said al-Zarqawi was taken there after being injured in the city of Ramadi around three weeks ago, and may have been treated by two doctors who had worked with his aides in Baghdad. He said the two doctors had stopped a serious haemorrhage in al-Zarqawi's intestines, but that after his condition worsened last week, the militant died on Friday.

Nasir adds that in his will the insurgent leader left the order that no funeral should be held for him and the right to announce his death should be left to the al-Qaeda leadership in Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden.

The Al-Medina newspaper reports that it also called the headmaster of a school in Fallujah, who preferred to remain anonymous, but confirmed that many people in the city were aware of the fact that al-Zarqawi had recently been taken to the city.

Sheikh Nasir's claims appear to correspond with reports several weeks ago that al-Zarqawi had been injured and taken to Ramadi hospital for emergency treatment, and with messages on the Internet talking of two Arab doctors accompanying him. Al-Zarqawi was reported to have been seen at the hospital on April 27. The hospital's director told an Iraq-based newspaper that US troops later surrounded and raided the entire building, searching for the Jordanian militant.

Only two days ago, an audio message attributed to al-Zarqawi was posted on the Internet, in which he assured his followers that he had only been lightly injured. Following the message, the US defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned countries neighbouring Iraq not to give any medical assistance to al-Zarqawi. "Our current theory is that he is in Iraq," he said. "Were a neighbouring country to take him in and provide medical assistance or haven for him, they obviously would be associating themselves with a major linkage in the al-Qaeda network, and a person who has a great deal of blood on his hands," Rumsfeld continued. "And that's something that people would want to take note of."


I'm sure this will be followed up with DNA testing to see if this is true.

Let Allah rest his soul in peace.

Let Allah rest his soul in peace.Yea, I said a prayer for Zachy ...

Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord your soul to keep;
And if He keeps it very well,
It's sure to find its way to hell.

I pray you get what you deserve,
I pray you get what I desire;
And with God's grace you'll keep your nerve
As you approach eternal fire.

But if you don't, it's no surprise--
A coward never lives his lies.
You've sent so many to the Lord,
It's only fair you face His sword.

And as I close my eyes tonight,
To contemplate eternal night;
I'd pray for you, I really would,
If only I could see some good.

May God have mercy on your soul;
And may all who suffered at your hand
Be waiting there to greet you
When you reach the Promised Land

May they show you mercy,
Of the type that you have shown;
And with caring and compassion
May you reap what you have sown.

Now I face the setting sun,
And dry-eyed, lay me down to sleep;
I know that when you're dead and gone
Some will cheer-- but none shall weep.