View Full Version : 'Pleasure marriages' regain popularity in Iraq
shamsery
06-05-05, 01:08 AM
Pleasure marriages were outlawed under Saddam Hussein but have begun to flourish again. The contracts, lasting anywhere from one hour to 10 years, generally stipulate that the man will pay the woman in exchange for sexual intimacy. Now some Iraqi clerics and women's rights activists are complaining that the contracts have become less a mechanism for taking care of widows than an outlet for male sexual desires.
The renaissance of the pleasure marriage coincides with a revival of other Shiite traditions long suppressed by the former regime. Interest in Shiite customs has accelerated since Shiite parties swept Jan. 30 elections to become the biggest bloc in the new National Assembly.
"Under Saddam, we were very scared," says Al-Zaidi, 39, a lawyer from Sadr City, a sprawling Shiite neighborhood in eastern Baghdad. "They would punish people. Now, all my friends are doing it."
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20050505/ts_usatoday/pleasuremarriagesregainpopularityiniraq
Though my knowledge very poor but I could not like it.
Where they are leading the society?
Now some Iraqi clerics and women's rights activists are complaining that the contracts have become less a mechanism for taking care of widows than an outlet for male sexual desires.
The woman has to agree to the marriage; so it must be an outlet for her too. Both parties would be guilty because they are both agreeing to it, so I don't see why anyone is blaming men here.
Pineapple Thief
06-05-05, 01:16 AM
Its sickening. I think any serious shi3a cleric or religious person would know it for what it is today. In the past Im sure it served a function, but as stated, these days I think its little more than legal prostitution (or I guess, not to be so harsh, 'islamic dating'?)
EDIT: those words on 'serious shi3a cleric' arent fair, so i take them back...im not qualified to say that. Regardless, my opinion is that its sickening.
shamsery
06-05-05, 01:28 AM
Thank you very much.
waiting for sham to blame this on the Americans.....
Unfortunately there is a precedent in the hadith.
Volume 6, Book 60, Number 139:
Narrated Abdullah:
We used to participate in the holy wars carried on by the Prophet and we had no women (wives) with us. So we said (to the Prophet ). "Shall we castrate ourselves?" But the Prophet forbade us to do that and thenceforth he allowed us to marry a woman (temporarily) by giving her even a garment, and then he recited: "O you who believe! Do not make unlawful the good things which Allah has made lawful for you."
who are men to deny what Allah has allowed ?
shamsery
06-05-05, 01:30 AM
Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari and other Shiite lawmakers have said they want Iraq's new constitution to use the sharia, or Islamic law, as its basis. That could give muta'a formal legal protection. Sunni Arabs and Kurds, who are mainly Sunni, oppose the idea. But the practice is growing among Sunnis and Shiites alike.
Sunni scholars fear that giving official sanction to pleasure marriages — many of which are only verbal agreements between the couple — are little more than legalized prostitution that could lead to a collapse of moral values, especially among young people.
"We have reports about one-hour pleasure marriages that are flourishing among students," says Sheik Ali Al-Mashhadani, a Sunni imam at the Ibn Taimiya mosque in Baghdad. "I'm advising parents to watch their sons very carefully, particularly those who are in the colleges and universities."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-05-04-pleasure-marriage_x.htm?csp=34
shamsery
06-05-05, 01:39 AM
I blame the puppet and call it Infiltration of cultural colonialism.
Hope you will agree saddam did a good job.
you cynicism is incredible.
you are applauding a butcher who supressed the religious beliefs of the majority of its citizens.
at least you didn't blame the zionists or the neocons.
do you disagree with what the hadith says sham ?
How strong is the hadith ?
It can be a weak hadith which gives us the benefit of the doubt ?
well all i can say is that the ppl r enjoying themselves!
"'Pleasure marriages' regain popularity in Iraq"
Ofcourse it's free sex, can even be for one hour!
How can we call a 1 hour sex pleausre a marraige?
The bottom line is that the temporary marraige was banned at the prophet time.
shamsery
06-05-05, 12:37 PM
How can we call a 1 hour sex pleausre a marraige?
The bottom line is that the temporary marraige was banned at the prophet time.
In the language of Political science we call it Infiltration of cultural colonialism.
That will eventually destroy the moral values and obvious by product of aggression/ invasion.
Best way to continue subjugation on an occupied nation.
shamsery
06-05-05, 12:49 PM
do you disagree with what the hadith says sham ?
There is controversy about the Hadith,those who handle religion will be able to reply you better than me.
shamsery
06-05-05, 12:53 PM
well all i can say is that the ppl r enjoying themselves!
do you disagree with what the hadith says sham ?
As far I am concern , I don’t endorse it. Hope you noted my comment above. It a covered free sex and it is disguised prostitution. Ultimately that will destroy the existing moral values of the Arabs & Iraqis that your friends are looking for.
shamsery
06-05-05, 12:59 PM
you are applauding a butcher who supressed the religious beliefs of the majority of its citizens.
At least at this point every one will applaud the butcher .
Mr Tickle
06-05-05, 01:17 PM
Sham,
It is beyond appalling that you can even think of blaming America for the revival of an ancient Shiite custom
Just how low can you stoop in your disgraceful and shameful refusal to accept a Muslim is capable of making up their own minds
EVERYTHING is the fault of the West
Pineapple Thief
06-05-05, 01:49 PM
Im not sure it can be classed an ancient shia custom, more research is required.
I dont doubt that at the time it had a very different usage. Note that it can last up till 10 years. Thats not really prostitution, thats a lot longer than most marriages these days.
But I dont endorse it in todays world. Of course, as mentioned, I'm hardly qualified.
In the language of Political science we call it Infiltration of cultural colonialism.
That will eventually destroy the moral values and obvious by product of aggression/ invasion.
Best way to continue subjugation on an occupied nation.
Thank you for the definition.
Note that it can last up till 10 years.
Why not follow the Islamic marraige instead of 10 years of sexual pleasure?
Mr Tickle
06-05-05, 10:09 PM
Sham loses again
shamsery
06-05-05, 10:49 PM
It is beyond appalling that you can even think of blaming America for the revival of an ancient Shiite custom
EVERYTHING is the fault of the West
Mr. Ice Tea clearly mentioned the rule here and that is visible. Open your eyes.
"The bottom line is that the temporary marriage was banned at the prophet time.
The contracts, lasting anywhere from one hour to 10 years,
Only a fundamentalist crooks can say so to defame Islam that system approved by an ancient Shiite custom or by the Hadith, those who handle religion will be able to answer you better than me. What do you mean by west? Do you mean filthy American imperialism?
Don't you say there is only one Islam ? Yet Mr. Sistani and his Shias believe and authorize mut'a marriage.
Seems like more than one version to me.
Don't you say there is only one Islam ? Yet Mr. Sistani and his Shias believe and authorize mut'a marriage.
Seems like more than one version to me.
Wudjab, there are 4 sects in Islam nowadays that I know of:
1. Sunni Islam
2. Shi'a Islam (which also includes different sects on its on like shi'a Isma'ilia, Zaideya...etc.)
3. Sufi Islam
4. Durzi Islam
So yeah, there are lots of 'versions' of Islam if you may call it nowaday.
Original Shi'as however, believed that it was Ali bin-Abi Talib who should've been the first Imam after prophet Muhammed's death and they have caused many problems becayse of that.
They also abide only by the hadiths that was told ONLY by Ali bin-Abi Talib after the prophet's death. So regarding the hadith, I think it must've been told by Ummar bin-Khattab, Abu Bakr or Uthman bin-Affan and that's why they do not abide by it. But I believe my Arab History teacher told me that this hadith is true.
Now for my opinion about it, well I think I do agree with the 'legalized prostitution' thing.
shamsery
06-05-05, 11:35 PM
Marriage for one hour to 10 years do not approve Islam for sexual pleasure.
Islamic law is not constituted on Mr. Sistani will .
About mut'a marriage, let some other speek.
Take the issue to religion sable please.
Pineapple Thief
06-05-05, 11:41 PM
Indeed. This is a religious thread. Moved to religion.
shamsery
06-05-05, 11:52 PM
Thank you and let the expert on theology come forward.
CrazyReD
07-05-05, 12:14 AM
people are just jumping guns without knowing
pleasure marriage was outlawed by Oman bin Khtab for some reason.
The contract time limit is set by the women. If the girl is virgin then they need to ask her parents (just like a normal wedding) the contract needs to be signed by a sheikh to approve it there needs to be a number of witness's.
people are saying it's sex and i dunno what. atleast it's not Zina. pt you are saying time has changed has it really? look around how many people are engaging in Zina??
This is as you said a legal way the prophet allowed it
shamsery
07-05-05, 12:41 AM
people are just jumping guns without knowing
people are saying it's sex and i dunno what. atleast it's not Zina. .......... look around how many people are engaging in Zina??
This is as you said a legal way the prophet allowed it
We are aware Zina is sin and capital crime.
Do you think the concept of mut'a marriage exist in Islam?
If so , Approved by witch document?
shamsery
07-05-05, 12:41 AM
Let us have the history in length with evidence.
I just think it is degrading for both a man and a woman to have sex under the umbrella of being married, this is just a really bad concept of marriange. Who are you trying to decieve here? Allah is too wise to be decieved by this.
The contract time limit is set by the women. If the girl is virgin then they need to ask her parents (just like a normal wedding) the contract needs to be signed by a sheikh to approve it there needs to be a number of witness's.
Aaah, c'mon dude =/ it is seriously the exact same thing as signing a business contract..only the purpose is different. Personally, I think that in this case the woman is treated rather like a disposable object, something you buy in order to satisfy a need and then its not of good use no more. What could be more degrading for a woman to be sold as an object?
And I think no matter open minded a person can be I just can't think that any man with dignity would approve such a thing for himself (in case he is the one seeking marriage) or for his daughter O.o
I mean come to think of it, if I were a father and someone came to me and said "Hey man, can I please marry your daughter because im sick of jacking off? please please pretty pretty please?" I will just smash the dude's head 50 times with a hammer and in case he aint dead yet, I'll use two hammers -_-.
CrazyReD
07-05-05, 12:56 AM
Ibn Abbas (RA), and was mentioned by al-Tabari and al-Tha'labi in their Tafsir of Quran. It is interesting to note that Umar did not attribute the prohibition of Mut'a to the Prophet (PBUH&HF). They were others who did that after Umar mainly to justify what he did. Umar clearly mentioned that: "Mut'a WAS permitted at the time of the Prophet and I PROHIBIT it!" The great Sunni scholar, Fakhr al-Razi, who has been given the title of "Imam al-Mushakkikeen" (the leader of ever-questioners/ever-doubtful) by the Sunnis, in his voluminous commentary of Quran mentioned under the verse of Temporary Marriage that: Umar said: Two types of Mut'a were (legal) during the time of the Prophet and I forbid them both, and I punish those who commit it. They are: Mut'a of pilgrimage and Mut'a of women. Tafsir al-Kabir, by al-Fakhr al-Razi, v3, p201 under verse 4:24 - Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, p52
here are some more links
http://www.iol.ie/~afifi/BICNews/Personal/personal22.htm
http://www26.brinkster.com/sdolshah1/mtmii.htm
all in all i know it's there for those who want to
CrazyReD
07-05-05, 01:01 AM
just one thing
i'm not saying that everyone should go for it
personally i find it if the man wants to get married do it the usual way which is a permenant marriage
but it's there for those who can't wait
I don't agree with pre-marigal sex but it's happeneing this gives people a way out and your not a Zani
Islam is deen el yasr (islam is an easy religion)
shamsery
07-05-05, 01:29 AM
I just think it is degrading for both a man and a woman to have sex under the umbrella of being married, this is just a really bad concept of marriange. Who are you trying to decieve here? Allah is too wise to be decieved by this.
Aaah, c'mon dude =/ it is seriously the exact same thing as signing a business contract..only the purpose is different. Personally, I think that in this case the woman is treated rather like a disposable object, something you buy in order to satisfy a need and then its not of good use no more. What could be more degrading for a woman to be sold as an object?
Are talking from Islamic point of view?
shamsery
07-05-05, 01:30 AM
Don’t you think Zina is sin and capital crime?
Moral point of view, so to speak.
shamsery
07-05-05, 01:41 AM
Moral point of view, so to speak.
Antagonistic to Islamic values.
Antagonistic to Islamic values.
ummm...no.
Im a Muslim, and im not sure how can you call something that degrading a 'value'.
DZ, agree with you entirely.
Prostitution under a different name.
You know the saying, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
This is what Sistani has to say on this subject :
http://www.sistani.org/html/eng/menu/4/?lang=eng&view=d&code=36&page=1
CrazyReD
07-05-05, 02:35 AM
Under prostatiution:
if the women is a virgin do you need to ask her parents to get married?
if the women gets pregnant is the husband supposed to pay for their expenses (if hy dosn't is he forced by law to do so?)
do you need witness's for it?
does the women make the contract time?
i don't know what ducks your looking at
Even though that half of my family are shee3a , I cannot support nor understand this whole concept of 'pleasure marriage' and I actually agree with those who said its just another name for 'prostitution' and that it seems very degrading to the woman and even man.
I would never justify it , and the only way for anyone to have sex is to officially get married the well known islamic way.
Don Khaled
07-05-05, 04:55 AM
people are just jumping guns without knowing
pleasure marriage was outlawed by Oman bin Khtab for some reason.
I believe you are contradicting yourself here. You say people are just jumping guns without knowing, while you are the one acting like them. Your theory, of Omar bin Al-Khatab banning zawaj mut3a ONLY comes from shi'ia. That's what the shee3a claim.
The zawaj mut'3a was allowed first, because the muslims were going through the phase from jahiliya to islam. Like allowing to drink wine, and comming near praying being drunk (wala taqrobo al salata wa antum sukara), but later on he banned drinking wine. Same goes with zawaj mut3a. Now, this theory is from the Suni version. Read this if you are interested: http://islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=37757
Next time, when you claim such thing, say Such and Such claim Such and Such. Shi'ia allows zawaj mut3a, so ofcourse they would go saying Omar bin Alkhatab had banned it, as they hate him.
but it's there for those who can't wait
Islam is deen el yasr (islam is an easy religion)
For those who can't wait they should fast if they fear they will commit a sin, that is what the prophet said. This is another evidence that "marraige for pleasure" is haram otherwise the prophet won't advise youth to fast if they can't get married he would have said instead "marry mut3a" for few hours or few days then go to the next virgin and marry her for mut3a (pleasure) and so on!
Don't you think such kind of marraige is destroying the society and treating women as sex toys and Islam is against such acts.
I hate it when people say Islam is deen el yusr (easy on people religion) and use it to commit sins. Islam is deen el yusr yes for spacial reasons but this doesn't mean a muslim will commit an act which is against Allah and the prophet teachings. Deen el yusr is for the muslim to use dust to perform wudu if he can't find water, to break the fast if can't fast, to combine/shorten prayers while travelling, etc.
Even though that half of my family are shee3a , I cannot support nor understand this whole concept of 'pleasure marriage' and I actually agree with those who said its just another name for 'prostitution' and that it seems very degrading to the woman and even man.
I would never justify it , and the only way for anyone to have sex is to officially get married the well known islamic way.
Thank you!
Don Khaled
07-05-05, 06:57 AM
then go to the next virgin and marry her for mut3a and so on!
According to the shee3a I know, there are rules for the "zawaj mut3a", and you can not marry a virgin woman for only pleasure.
sophis^catrina
07-05-05, 06:58 AM
For those who can't wait
So toy with the girl, have her just for sex, and then throw her out when you are finished with her? :cool:
Fabulous idea.
Man, we are not robots. There are feelings involved. After having sex, women normally get very attached to the guy and she'll want to start getting closer to him and want more rights. Getting her out after the guy has satisfied his physical needs and a time when she got so close to the guy is just so cruel.
sophis^catrina
07-05-05, 07:00 AM
According to the shee3a I know, there are rules for the "zawaj mut3a", and you can not marry a virgin woman for only pleasure.
I believe the guy has to ask her father to marry her. :6: It should not be done in secret.
CrazyReD
07-05-05, 12:23 PM
Ibn Abbas (RA), and was mentioned by al-Tabari and al-Tha'labi in their Tafsir of Quran. It is interesting to note that Umar did not attribute the prohibition of Mut'a to the Prophet (PBUH&HF). They were others who did that after Umar mainly to justify what he did. Umar clearly mentioned that: "Mut'a WAS permitted at the time of the Prophet and I PROHIBIT it!" The great Sunni scholar, Fakhr al-Razi, who has been given the title of "Imam al-Mushakkikeen" (the leader of ever-questioners/ever-doubtful) by the Sunnis, in his voluminous commentary of Quran mentioned under the verse of Temporary Marriage that: Umar said: Two types of Mut'a were (legal) during the time of the Prophet and I forbid them both, and I punish those who commit it. They are: Mut'a of pilgrimage and Mut'a of women. Tafsir al-Kabir, by al-Fakhr al-Razi, v3, p201 under verse 4:24 - Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v1, p52
don i think u missed this post
sophie it's not done in secret
third there are things we don't understand about islam but i don't see anyone saying why this isn't and all that but since the issue is about shia'a just jump on the gun to point the finger ;)
and don before saying shia hate him and all that go read then come accuse me of whatever ok
funny how most think that it's the man who decides everything it's not the women does it she sets the time limit and all if she dosn't want she's not forced
and since talkin about other legal names what about zawaj el 3urfi? and the other non islamic marriages atleast this one has islamic bassis
shamsery
07-05-05, 01:53 PM
but since the issue is about shia'a just jump on the gun to point the finger ;)
If it happen so, surely that is bad.
and since talkin about other legal names what about zawaj el 3urfi? and the other non islamic marriages atleast this one has islamic bassis
That is not a valid point, everything that contradicts with the principles and rules of Islamic marraige is not allowed.
We can also say that drinking alcohol has islamic bassis since it wasn't banned at the begining of Islam, can we also say it's ok to drink alcohol?
CR, do you also think that "Umar" can make what is halal haram and what is haram halal?
shamsery
07-05-05, 02:20 PM
Q.#1 Is it ok to say in the condition for mot'e, that we will be together
for one year, and after that we will continue until one of us, either the
man or woman, states that they would like to end the mot'e after that one
year.
Q#2. If I made Muta’h with a woman, and I divorced her the next day, can I renew Muta’h with the same woman one day after the divorce?
Reply or Answer: #1.Time and duration of contract should be determined. After duration, they are as strangers to each other.
Reply or Answer: #2: Yes, it is necessary to determine time and duration of temporary marriage. There is no minimum or maximum limit for it. Of course, the contract would be invalid, if the time limit is more than either side can live.
Does it mean mot'e allowed, permissible and Halal for the period one year ?
Next: If it is Halal for a day , where is the problem for an hour?
Can any one clarify me in simple and strait language?
How about for 1/2 an hour?
shamsery
07-05-05, 03:44 PM
How about for 1/2 an hour?
Sir Ice Tea,
You are not taking the issue seriously?
Who said so?
1/2 hour is good for after lunch, some people are busy to have it for 1 hour or one day.
shamsery
07-05-05, 04:21 PM
Q. If I made Muta’h with a woman, and I divorced her the next day, can I renew Muta’h with the same woman one day after the divorce?
There is no divorce in temporary marriage. It ends with the end of its time or when the husband forgives the remaining time. And it is permissible for you to remarry her after the contract period is over.
Comment please
sophis^catrina
07-05-05, 04:23 PM
sophie it's not done in secret
and since talkin about other legal names what about zawaj el 3urfi? and the other non islamic marriages atleast this one has islamic bassis
1- I know that.
2- Who said we agreed with any of those either?
CrazyReD
07-05-05, 04:23 PM
That is not a valid point, everything that contradicts with the principles and rules of Islamic marraige is not allowed.
We can also say that drinking alcohol has islamic bassis since it wasn't banned at the begining of Islam, can we also say it's ok to drink alcohol?
CR, do you also think that "Umar" can make what is halal haram and what is haram halal?
it's not what i think if you cared to look at the refrences you'd see it's what's cited
what rules are contridicted?
there are witness you need a ma'athoon it's signed there's a'aqd el nikaah if there's a child the man needs to support the child
can you tell me where it goes against the islamic ruling in a marriage?
p,s have you noticed in the milkah they say "3aqd el nika7 el da2em"? or they don't say it??
CrazyReD
07-05-05, 04:23 PM
2- Who said we agreed with any of those either? who said you didn't?
shamsery
07-05-05, 04:28 PM
Who said so?
1/2 hour is good for after lunch, some people are busy to have it for 1 hour or one day.
I want to know, what type of Fatwa all are?
sophis^catrina
07-05-05, 04:37 PM
who said you didn't?
We don't.
As regards your question, we’d cite the following Fatwa issued by the well-known Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi:
"Marriage, in Islam, is a solemn contract. It is meant to last until death. To assure this objective, Islam regards setting a certain period of time for marital life as impermissible; such a temporary marriage is known as Mut`ah . Also, Islam lays down certain conditions that guarantee the stability of marriage so that it may bring forth its good fruits. This, in fact, cannot be achieved except when harmony exists between the husband and the wife, in addition to love, affection and mutual respect for each other’s rights; this is what should dominate their marital life.
islam online (http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=35624)
CrazyReD
07-05-05, 04:48 PM
all i know is that it's hallal and was later concidered haram how do concubines fit didn't you mention they were hallal? if not then i'm sorry to imply that you did
anywayz peronsally i agree it shold be there but who am i to say what shold and what sholdn't i didn't create any life i didn't hold the skies without any support
C-ReD over and out
sophis^catrina
07-05-05, 04:52 PM
all i know is that it's hallal and was later concidered haram how do concubines fit didn't you mention they were hallal?
That's a different case. That is not a temprorary marriage, those are women belonging to a guy for the full time.
Don't mix the two.
ok if there r women in iraq who dont mind being the wife of someone temporarily why should we be bothered?!
and the man is getting some pleasure, actually both r getting...its non of my damn business!!
shamsery
07-05-05, 06:32 PM
ok if there r women in iraq who dont mind being the wife of someone temporarily why should we be bothered?!
and the man is getting some pleasure, actually both r getting...its non of my damn business!!
Islam in Iraq and Islam in Bangladesh or any other part of the world do no contradict.
So , we bother.
Friend and guide of Muslin Mr. Wudjab is kind enough to provide the verdict of Mr. Sistani , a famous collaborator to American occupational army. Link bellow.
http://www.sistani.org/html/eng/menu/4/?lang=eng&view=d&code=36&page=1
To assure this objective, Islam regards setting a certain period of time for marital life as impermissible; such a temporary marriage is known as Mut`ah .
impermissible = not allowed.
Link bellow originally provided by Moderator sophis^catrina.
http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=35624
Whom we are to follow including Omani Muslim ?
Islam in Iraq and Islam in Bangladesh or any other part of the world do no contradict.
Absolutely wrong, the mere fact that there are lots of Islamic sects around means that there are contraditions and lots of opinions regarding lots of Issues, otherwise there wouldnt've been such a thing known as sects.
Look at Druze Muslims for example, their traditions, beliefs and life style have nothing to do with Islam whatsoever, even the very belief in Allah is different as they believe Al-Hakim Bi'amr Allah is God. Yet they call themselves Muslims and the Religion they emrace is Islam.
Shi'a Muslims and Sunni Muslims do not agree on various points in the Islamic Shari'a but yet both emrace Islam as a Religion.
Whom we are to follow including Omani Muslim ?
Well I didn't fully get your question, but if you are to follow a sect, then it is normally the one you belong to.
Pineapple Thief
07-05-05, 08:50 PM
Well I dont believe in sects, but I believe in an ideal world, so...
shamsery
07-05-05, 08:55 PM
Absolutely wrong, the mere fact that there are lots of Islamic sects around means that there are contraditions and lots of opinions regarding lots of Issues, otherwise there wouldnt've been such a thing known as sects.
Amazing, I am not talking about sect, I am talking about Islam.
Does any sect offer prayer opposite of Kebla ?
Or disagree on fundamental principal of Islam?
Sorry I have no idea about Druze Muslims.
But what I have understood from your post , I have a great confusion about them and I think they are not Muslim in anyway.
Whom we are to follow including Omani Muslim ?
The Quran and true Hadith teachings.
shamsery
07-05-05, 09:09 PM
Well I dont believe in sects, but I believe in an ideal world, so...
You may be an Utopian.
shamsery
07-05-05, 09:26 PM
The Quran and true Hadith teachings.
Sir Ice Tea, go in to the deep.
What our friend trying to teach us.
It is our duty to aware Arabs about infiltration of cultural colonialism.
They are pushing them fast to astray.
Have you any doubt?
CrazyReD
08-05-05, 02:01 AM
That's a different case. That is not a temprorary marriage, those are women belonging to a guy for the full time.
Don't mix the two.
really full time?? wern't they sold? or traded something like that?
sooq el ne5asa rings any bell???
when having the concubine wasn't it the man who chose the women and the women had more or less no choice?
in muta it's the WOMEN who decides the time limit
again if u can marry temp why not marry fully that i dunno
sophis^catrina
08-05-05, 04:13 AM
really full time?? wern't they sold? or traded something like that?
They were seen as "ma malakat aydeekum" as in owned by the guy. There's a whole thing behind it, which is not the case here, so please don't deviate the topic and concentrate on the different issue of "temproray marriage".
shamsery
08-05-05, 04:59 AM
I was thinking about Mr.Blue.
CrazyReD
08-05-05, 08:15 AM
They were seen as "ma malakat aydeekum" as in owned by the guy. There's a whole thing behind it, which is not the case here, so please don't deviate the topic and concentrate on the different issue of "temproray marriage".
i'm not with a temp marriage she's concidered as "ma malakat aydeekum"
but i guess to much prejudice to accept this oh well moving on
Sir Ice Tea, go in to the deep.
What our friend trying to teach us.
Question :
Could you please tell if there is such a concept as 'temporary marriages'in islam. I would like to know because a friend of mine has read a book by professor Abui Qasim Gourgi and is under the impression that if they are already married it is okay for them to do muta(the name for a temporary marriage according to islamic shariah). His definition for a temporary marriage is that if you like someone it is okay for you to have your nikah read with them for a short period of time. Please could you tell me more about the issue of muta and which schools of thought believe in such an idea (could you support your answer using references from ahadith and quran).
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
Mut’ah or temporary marriage refers to when a man marries a woman for a specific length of time in return for a particular amount of money.
The basic principle concerning marriage is that it should be ongoing and permanent. Temporary marriage – i.e., mut’ah marriage – was permitted at the beginning of Islam, then it was abrogated and became haraam until the Day of Judgement.
It was narrated from ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade mut’ah marriage and the meat of domestic donkeys at the time of Khaybar. According to another report, he forbade mut’ah marriage at the time of Khaybar and he forbade the meat of tame donkeys.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3979; Muslim, 1407.
It was narrated from al-Rabee’ ibn Sabrah al-Juhani that his father told him that he was with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) who said, “O people, I used to allow you to engage in mut’ah marriages, but now Allaah has forbidden that until the Day of Resurrection, so whoever has any wives in a mut’ah marriage, he should let her go and do not take anything of the (money) you have given them.”
Narrated by Muslim, 1406.
Allaah has made marriage one of His signs which calls us to think and ponder. He has created love and compassion between the spouses, and has made the wife a source of tranquility for the husband. He encouraged us to have children and decreed that a woman should wait out the ‘iddah period and may inherit. None of that exists in this haraam form of marriage.
A woman who is married in a mut’ah marriage, according to the Raafidis – i.e. the Shi’ah, who are the ones who say that this is permissible – is neither a wife nor a concubine. But Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts)
Except from their wives or (the slaves) that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame;
But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors”
[al-Mu’minoon 23:5-7]
The Raafidis quote invalid evidence to support their argument that mut’ah is permissible. For example:
(a) They quote the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“…so with those of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed…”
[al-Nisa’ 4:24]
They say: this verse indicates that mut’ah is permissible, and the word ‘their mahr (ujoorahunna – lit. their dues or their wages)’ is evidence that what is meant by the phrase ‘you have enjoyed sexual relations’ is mut’ah.
The refutation of this is the fact that prior to this Allaah mentions the women whom a man is forbidden to marry, then he mentions what is permissible for him, and He commands the man to give to the woman he marries her mahr.
The joy of marriage is expressed here by the word enjoyment (‘of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations’). A similar instance occurs in the Sunnah, in the hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah according to which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Woman is like a bent rib, if you try to straighten her you will break her. If you want to enjoy her, then enjoy her while she still has some crookedness in her.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4889; Muslim, 1468.
The mahr is referred to here as ajr (lit. dues or wages), but this does not refer to the money which is paid to the woman with whom he engages in mut’ah in the contract of mut’ah. The mahr is referred to as ajr elsewhere in the Book of Allaah, where Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O Prophet (Muhammad)! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal‑money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage)…”
[al-Ahzaab 33:50]
Thus it becomes clear that there is no evidence in this verse to suggest that mut’ah is permissible.
Even if we were to say for argument’s sake that this verse indicates that mut’ah is permitted, we would still say that it is abrogated by the reports in the saheeh Sunnah which prove that mut’ah is forbidden until the Day of Resurrection.
(b) The reports that some of the Sahaabah regarded it as being permissible, especially Ibn ‘Abbaas.
The refutation here is the fact that the Raafidis are following their own whims and desires, because they regard the companions of the Prophet (may Allaah be pleased with them) as kaafirs, then you see them quoting their actions as permissible in this instance and in others.
With regard to those who said that it is permissible, they are among those who did not hear that it had been forbidden. The Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) – including ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib and ‘Abd-Allaah ibn al-Zubayr – refuted Ibn ‘Abbaas’s view that mut’ah was permitted.
It was narrated from ‘Ali that he heard Ibn ‘Abbaas permitting mut’ah marriage, and he said, “Wait a minute, O Ibn ‘Abbaas, for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade it on the day of Khaybar and (he also forbade) the meat of tame donkeys.”
Narrated by Muslim, 1407.
For more information see Questions no. 1373, 2377, 6595.
And Allaah knows best.
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Question :
What is the ruling on mut’ah marriage?
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
Mut’ah marriage means that a man marries a woman – either Muslim or from the people of the Book – and specifies how long the marriage will last, for example five days, or two months, or half a year, or many years. The beginning and end of the marriage are specified, and he pays her a small mahr (dowry), and after the specified time is over, the woman exits the marriage. This kind of marriage was permitted during the year of the Conquest of Makkah for three days, then it was disallowed and prohibited until the Day of Resurrection. This was reported by Muslim (1406).
The wife is the one with whom one stays on a long-term basis, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“… and live with them honourably …” [al-Nisaa’ 4:19], but in the case of mut’ah a man does not live with the woman for long.
The wife is the one who is called a wife in sharee’ah, with whom the relationship is long-lasting. She is mentioned in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):
“Except from their wives or (the slaves) that their right hands possess, ¾ for then, they are free from blame” [al-Mu’minoon 23:6] – the latter (a slave whom one’s right hand possesses) is not a wife according to sharee’ah, because her stay is limited to a short time.
The wife is the one who inherits from the husband, or from whom the husband inherits, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“In that which your wives leave, your share is a half if they have no child…” [al-Nisaa’ 4:12]. But the woman in a mut’ah marriage does not inherit, because she is not a wife, since she spends such a short time with the man.
On these grounds, Mut’ah marriage is considered to be zinaa (adultery or fornication), even if both parties consent to it, and even if it lasts for a long time, and even if the man pays the woman a mahr. There is nothing that has been reported in sharee’ah that shows that it may be permitted, apart from the brief period when it was allowed during the year of the conquest of Makkah. That was because at that time there were so many people who has newly embraced Islam and there was the fear that they might become apostates, because they had been used to committing zinaa during the Jaahiliyyah. So this kind of marriage was permitted for them for three days, then it was made haraam until the Day of Resurrection, as was narrated by Muslim, 1406.
From al-Lu’lu’ al-Makeen min Fataawa Fadeelat al-Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Jibreen, p. 41. (www.islam-qa.com)
Question :
About four weeks ago I met an Arabic man who followed Islam, he told me that he had special interest in me and wanted to be with me. To validate this "dating" he requested that we be "temporarly married". I have searched and searched for the explanation of this "temporary marriage". I really love this man and would marry him, but from what I have read it seems as though we already maybe married. I am very confused and would like to have this cleared up.
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
There is no such thing in Islam as so-called “temporary marriage,” but some people who follow misguided innovations that have been introduced into the religion still believe in the validity of something known as “mut’ah marriage,” which is a form of temporary marriage. However, this type of marriage was abrogated or cancelled out and is not part of Islamic law (translator’s note: it was allowed for a brief period during the very early days of Islam, when society was in transition, but was definitively and for all time abrogated during the life of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)).
You should beware of such people, and not let your emotions overwhelm you and stop you from following the truth.
And Allaah knows best.
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Question :
Hi, I'm a Christian and I am in a muta marrige with a muslim right now and when we discuss muta marriges he says he's allowed to have sex if it was put in the "contract" I was just wondering is that true? If the female are unable to be touched then how is it that a guy can have sex. I guess I just don't understand. What are the other things you can and can not do while in a muta marrige?
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
We are very upset to hear about this incident in which you have been deceived and lied to, or have fallen victim to the ignorance of this evil man. The final ruling with regard to mut’ah marriage is that it is forbidden according to Islamic sharee’ah. This prohibition is the final ruling of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) with regard to this matter.
Imaam Muslim said in his Saheeh:
Baab Nikaah al-Mut’ah wa bayaan annahu ubeeha thumma nusikha thumma ubeeha thumma nusikha wastaqarra tahreemuhu ilaa Yawn il-Qiyaamah (Chapter on Mut’ah marriage and the statement that it was permitted, then abrogated, then permitted, then abrogated, and this prohibition remains in effect until the Day of Resurrection).
From Iyaas ibn Salamah from his father, who said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave sanction for contracting temporary marriage (mut’ah) for three nights in the year of Awtaas [after the Battle of Humayn in 8 AH], then he forbade it.” (2499)
From al-Rabee’ ibn Sabrah from his father: on the day of the Conquest (of Makkah) the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade temporary marriage (mut’ah) with women. (Saheeh Muslim, 2506)
And also from him (may Allaah be pleased with him): that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade mut’ah and said: “It is forbidden from this day of yours until the Day of Resurrection, and whoever has given anything [as a dowry] should not take it back.” (Saheeh Muslim, 2509).
From ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib: that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade temporary marriage to women and the flesh of donkeys at the time of Khaybar. This was narrated by al-Tirmidhi, who said: the hadeeth of ‘Ali is hasan saheeh and this is what was followed by the scholars among the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and others… this is also the view of al-Thawri, Ibn al-Mubaarak, al-Shaafa’i, Ahmad and Ishaaq. Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 1040.
Either this man who has deceived you is an evil Raafidi who is following the religion of his community, who permit mut’ah marriages which are forbidden in Islam, or he is a corrupt Muslim who is taking advantage of the matter to fulfil his own desires, or he is ignorant and needs to be educated and advised.
We thank you for sending this question to us and we would like to take this opportunity to invite you to Islam, the religion of truth, which came to protect people’s life, honour and wealth. You will find information on embracing Islam in the first sections on our web-page. We pray to Allaah to help you to do that which is good and to protect you from evil things and evil people. May Allaah bless the Chosen Prophet.
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CrazyReD
08-05-05, 11:07 AM
the Prophet (s) made this permissible. This is based upon ayat 24 of Surat an-Nisa': "When you have done Mut'ah with them, so give them the agreed upon dowry."
Also, we find in Sahih al-Bukhari, volume nine, the section on marriage, that the Prophet (s) said to his companions during some of the wars:
"I give you permission to do Mut'ah, so do Mut'ah. A man and woman come together and agree to intimacy for three nights. If they desire to increase then they may increase, and if they desire to leave it, they may leave it."
We find also in Sahih al-Muslim, vol. 2, the chapter on Mut'ah, that Jabir ibn 'Abd Allah al-Ansari narrates:
"We did Mut'ah on the covenant of the Prophet (s) and Abu Bakr and 'Umar." On the same page we find another hadeeth from Jabir, where he adds: "But then 'Umar forbid us from this."
Ibn Hajir Al-'Asqalani writes in his Fath al-Bary bi Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari, volume 11, p. 70 of the 1989 edition,
"We have numerous ahadith which are explicit in prohibiting Mut'ah after permission was given for it."
Similarities between Temporary and Permanent Marriage
The scholars of the Ja'fari school are in agreement that permanent and temporary marriage share in the following issues:
* That it is necessary that in both kinds of marriages the women must be mature, of sound-mind, and be free from any kinds of prohibitions on marriage. It is not permissible to marry a married woman, nor is it permissible to marry a woman who is in the waiting period of divorce or death, and not with a woman with whom marriage is forbidden because of family relationship, marriage or nursing. It is not permissible to marry a polytheist. Similarly, it is not permissible for the woman to marry any one except a Muslim who does not have any prohibitions on him in terms of marriage.
* Mut'ah is not correct by merely giving oneself over to another or being happy to be married. Rather, it requires explicit verbal confirmation of the marriage, just as it does with a permanent marriage. Nor is the contract valid by saying "I give myself to you" or "I make myself permissible to you" or "I rent myself to you," or anything like that, but rather must involve the three words nikahtu, zawajtu, or Mut'ahtu. The author of Al-Jawahir says:
As far as the marriage formula is concerned in Mut'ah, it must be words which have been designated by the Lawgiver for the marriage offering (ijab), such as zawajtuka or nikahtuka or muta'tuka. Any of these will make the contract valid, and it is not valid with other than these words, such as words that have to do with property or gifting or renting. As far as accepting the marriage offering, this is done by words which indicate upon intention, such as qabiltu (I accept) or radaitu (I am happy with this).
* The marriage contract is binding upon the man and woman in both kinds of marriage. However, it is the right of the man to return the remaining time of the temporary marriage, just as he may divorce himself from a permanent marriage.
* Prohibitions in terms of marriage flow from both temporary and permanent marriage. A man who does Mut'ah is not allowed to marry step-daughters from a temporary wife, nor may a man marry two sisters in Mut'ah just as he is not allowed to do so in a permanent marriage. We see that nursing from a fornicator has no effect, and the difference is that the wife of temporary marriage is a legal wife according to Islamic law, whereas the fornicator has only punishment.
* The children of a temporary marriage are like the children of a permanent marriage in terms of inheritance and support, and all the rights which accrue to a child. A person asked Imam as-Sadiq (as) about what happens if a woman he is doing Mut'ah with becomes pregnant, to which he said: "That child is your child."
* The child is considered to be the child of the father by simple sexual relations, even if they are removed from each other, or his semen enters into her from outside. This is because Mut'ah is a legal marriage just like the permanent one, and the child is to the one who has copulated with him, both by consensus of the 'ulama and by the canonical sources.
* The dowry in both kinds of marriage is the same, in the sense that one may decrease it or increase it, whether the dowry be for a small amount or for millions. This is based on the ayat: "If you give to them the dowry, then you can not take back from them anything."
* If a man divorces his wife before sexual relations, he only has to pay half the dowry. Similar is the case if a man, in a temporary marriage, returns the remaining time to the wife before sexual relations. If they finish the marriage period without having sexual relations, however, then she has the right to the entire dowry. Some, however, have said that she can only have half in this case.
* In both kinds of marriage, there is no difference if the man and woman are separated from each other except for sexual relations, in terms of dowry and waiting period.
* The woman who does Mut'ah must observe a waiting period after the end of the time of the temporary marriage, though there is no waiting period if there has been no sexual relations. This is the same as in a permanent marriage, when a woman is divorced without sexual relations. A woman in a permanent marriage and temporary one must both observe the complete waiting period if her husband dies, whether or not there has been sexual relations.
* Every condition that has been agreed upon by the husband and wife is binding in a temporary marriage, so long as these conditions are allowed by Islamic law. This is the same as in a permanent marriage, in line with the hadeeth: "The believers are bound by the conditions they make."
* It is impermissible to have sex with a woman during her menstrual period in both permanent and temporary marriage.
* If a contract is made for Mut'ah, and then the man and woman learn that the contract is invalid because of family relationship, then there is no dowry on the man, if they have not yet had sex. If they have had sex, then there is some speculation: If the woman was aware that they were forbidden to have sex with each other, but nonetheless does so anyways, then she has no right to a dowry, because she has sinned. This is in line with the hadeeth "No dowry for the sinner." However, if she does not know that she was not allowed to have sex, then she must be given her dowry, just as with a permanent marriage.
* It is not permissible for a man to have sex with the nieces of his temporary wife except with her permission, just as is the case with a permanent marriage.
Differences between Temporary and Permanent Marriage
* It is necessary in a temporary marriage that the time-period be explicitly fixed and specified, and it is not allowed for it to be able to be increased or decreased. In a permanent marriage, however, it is not allowed to fix any time period. This is a self-evident reality wherein analogy applies.
If the man and woman intend to do a temporary marriage, and forgot to specify a time period in the marriage contract, does the marriage become a permanent one or a temporary one, or is the whole contract invalid?
It has been the famous opinion of the scholars that, in such a situation, that the marriage becomes a permanent one. The author of Al-Jawahir has said that this is because the marriage formula without words expresses a permanent marriage, and this is in line with the hadeeth: "If you fix the time, then it is Mut'ah, and if you do not fix the time, then it is Nikah."
However, some of the scholars have said that the contract does not come into effect at all, neither permanently or temporarily. This is because what is merely intended does not come into effect, and what came into effect what was not intended
* The dowry is a primary obligation [pillar, rukn] in the temporary marriage. If the man and woman fail to specify the dowry, then the marriage is invalid. Imam as-Sadiq (as) said: "There is no Mut'ah except with two things: A specified period, and a specified dowry." In another narration he says "A known period" and a "known dowry."4 (reference) As for the permanent marriage, however, the dowry is not a primary obligation, and the marriage is correct if the dowry has not been specified. If a man and woman marry in permanent marriage and have sex, and then get divorced, then the woman should be given a standard dowry.
CrazyReD
08-05-05, 11:08 AM
* If a permanent wife is divorced before sexual relations, then there is no waiting period for her. Such is the case with a temporary wife as well, if the time period finishes before sexual relations are consummated. If the permanent wife is divorced after sexual relations and she is not pregnant, then she must wait three menstrual periods, or three months.5 reference As for the temporary wife, however, her waiting period (if they had sexual relations), then she must wait for two menstrual cycles or a forty-five days, if she is not pregnant. For both types of women, if they are pregnant, than the waiting period is until after she has given birth. As far as the waiting period for a widow, then there is no difference between the two types of women, and sexual relations make no difference her. If the woman is pregnant, however, then she must wait until either she has given birth, or four months and ten days, which ever is longer.
* There is disagreement amongst the scholars in terms of the wife's inheritance, depending on whether or not she was a permanent or temporary wife. Most scholars, such as Shaheed al-Awal and Shaheed ath-Thani, have said that a temporary wife does not inherit unless this condition was made in the marriage contract. This is because the marriage contract, by its nature, does not necessitate inheritance, or necessitate the absence of heritance. If this condition has been made, then it must be followed, in line with the hadeeth: "The believers are bound by the conditions they make," and the hadeeth of Imam as-Sadiq (as) where he says: "If you agree to inheritance, then you are bound by your conditions."
* There is no daily living support for a temporary wife unless it is in the marriage contract. As for a permanent wife, than this is her right, even if the man and wife have agreed that this is not binding upon them.
* It is makruh to do Mut'ah with a virgin girl, whereas it is recommend in permanent marriage. The author of Al-Haqa'iq narrates: "Imam as-Sadiq (as) was asked about Mut'ah, to which he said: "Her case is a heavy one, so have respect for the virgins."
* The scholars of law say that a permanent wife has the right that her husband sleep in a bed near her own bed one night every four days, visible to her face, even if their bodies do not connect. This assumes that the man is not always travelling; if he is this way, then it is wajib that the man have to do this once every four months. She also has the right to seek her husband, whether or not he is there at the house or a traveller. For a temporary wife, however, none of this is obligatory. She is not given the choice in this regards, and she does not have the right to seek her husband in this way, whether he is living locally or travelling.
* If a man divorces his permanent wife in a revocable divorce after he has had sexual relations with her, then the man may return to her before the waiting period is finished. If the divorce is a khul'a divorce, where the man did not want a divorce but agrees to in exchange for part of the dowry, than the wife has the right to return to her husband during the waiting period. For a temporary wife, however, she becomes separated from the husband by the time period ending or by having the time period returned to her. There is no right to either one of them to return to each other during the waiting period. However, it is permissible for the man and woman to renew the marriage contract during that period, whether it be permanent or temporary.7 However, this is not permissible to any other man except until the waiting period has finished.
* If a man has had sex with a permanent wife, then that wife is owed her entire dowry. If she refuses to be with him after this for whatever reason, then the dowry does not drop. However, the daily living expenses drop, because the woman was being disobedient. However, in a temporary marriage, if the wife refuses the man sexual relations, he may adjust the dowry based upon the time in which she refused. The author of Al-Jawahir says:
If the woman disrupts part of the allotted period, then the man may take what he wants from the dowry by ratio. If it is half, then, half, and if it is a third, then a third. I have found no disagreement on this point. There is, in fact, no problem in looking at the well-narrated hadeeth on this subject, such as the narration of Ibn Hunzalah, where he said: 'I asked Imam as-Sadiq (as) about a woman whom I married for a fixed time for a certain. She came to me during part of this month, but she did not for the other part.' The Imam (as) said: 'Then take from the dowry an amount equal to the time that she withheld herself from you, except for the days of her menstrual cycle, for that part is to her.'"
* It is permissible for a man to marry more than four temporary wives, whereas this is not allowed in a permanent marriage. Al-Hurr Al-'Amily has narrated many hadeeth on this subject in his Wasa'il. However, there are some narration's which indicate upon the impermissibility of this, and that a man may not have more than four temporary wives. One of these narration's is that of 'Amar ibn Sabaty from Imam as-Sadiq (as). When he asked Imam as-Sadiq (as) about Mut'ah, he said that the temporary wives count as one of the four [that the man is allowed to have]. There is also the narration from Imam al-Baqir (as), on the authority of Zarara. He was asked about Mut'ah wives, if they are like slave girls whom one can have as many as one wants. The Imam (as) said: "No. She counts for one of the four."
* Beyond all of this, there is the ruling that whatever is confirmed for a permanent wife is confirmed to a temporary wife except what has been differentiated in the evidence. We have mentioned the evidences which establish the differences we have already discussed, and whatever other issues remain stand upon this general ruling. The author of Al-Jawahir says: "The root premise is that permanent and temporary marriages are the same in terms of rulings except in those things which are established by evidence." In Sharh al-Lu'mah, Shaheed ath-Thani states: "The rulings of a temporary wife and a permanent wife are the same in terms of everything we have discussed, such as conditions, guardianship, and prohibited marriages, except those things which are specifically excluded.
Many scholars of law have argued that the essential natures of permanent and temporary marriage are the same, and that the word "marriage" applies to individuations of this concept: One of them permanent marriage, the other temporary, just as the word "humanity" encompasses both men and women.
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