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Omanis need no govt permission to marry AGCC citizens
MUSCAT — Sayyid Saud bin Ibrahim Al Busaidi, interior minister, yesterday issued a ministerial decision amending some of the provisions regulating Omanis’ marriage to non-Omanis.
According to the new amendments, Omani males and females may marry citizens of the AGCC states without obtaining permission.
In case the persons they wish to marry do not hold citizenship of one of the AGCC states, a permission shall be obtained from the Interior Ministry prior to the marriage even if that person is a resident of an AGCC state.
The ministry stated that the provisions regulating Omanis’ marriage to other nationalities issued by ministerial decision No. 92/93 and its amendments shall be applicable to all Omanis wishing to marry non-AGCC nationals.
The ministry has urged citizens inside the country and abroad to comply with these provisions. — ONA
I Guess the News are Good so No more Hassle when in Love with AGCC National from Govenment Bureaucratic..
But Why The Govenment doesn't Extend the Permission to cover atleast All Arab Countries?
Guys and Girls Do you think the Idea of Having a free choice of your Spouse from any where is it a good idea!!! :)
That is good step ;)
I guess its a good news indeed.
We can have 4-wifes from different corner of the Gulf!! :) :hyper:
sophis^catrina 13-04-05, 12:12 PM That's wonderful! :)
DeSerTDesTroYeR 13-04-05, 12:34 PM What is AGCC? And whats the requirements for someone to become AGCC?
sophis^catrina 13-04-05, 12:42 PM ^^^ GCC countries?
X-press 13-04-05, 01:01 PM Big thanks Sleyum for sharing this news here, as I was not aware of this new decision.
Being a foreigner married to an Omani and knowing the hassle it took us to get this permission, I think it is a wanderful, wanderful news to see that the government has started to open a bit its doors to the outside world!
I believe many Omanis will be very pleased to know that they have at least 'A CHOICE' and that they are not limited only to their own nationality. I think it is fair to say that this previous restriction has not help the population, which over the past years, has only seen a considerable increase of desparate unmarried girls unable to find their match among their own people.
As you said Sleyum, it would be nice if the government was allowing Omanis to marry anyone originating from an Arabic or muslim country, but for the time being it is better to be content with this new ministerial decision. If this generation can not have more choice, hopefully the next one will...
X-press 13-04-05, 01:29 PM What is AGCC? And whats the requirements for someone to become AGCC?
AGCC = Arab Gulf Cooperation Council
To my understanding the Members States of the GCC are: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Oman. Now as we talk about Arab GCC, it must most probably include other countries like Yemen, Iraq, Iran,...
To avoid any confusion, it would surely help if there was a list of all countries falling under 'AGCC'.
Pineapple Thief 13-04-05, 01:30 PM Does Lebanon count?
PT are you looking to marry a lebanese girl? :D
Lebanon isn't in the Gulf reigion, I don't think it counts.
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This is a nice step. I think what they're trying to do is make relations closer between the countries.
Now if only they could do this for the rest of the world :shy:
Pineapple Thief 13-04-05, 01:35 PM Who isnt looking for a lebanese girl? :p
Well, if lebanon is out of the picture, I suppose we still have Emarati chicks to look forward to...
*hides*
:rolleyes:
You better hide!
X-press 13-04-05, 01:38 PM I think PT has a soft spot for a lebanese girl :p... Mashallah, what a change, Oman will maybe finally see so many blue eyes and blond hair babies! :love:
I guess All GCC ladies are the most Beautiful to go for!!
We dont need lebanon, But if they Include Yemenis then that's going to wonderful full complete choice of chicks :)
I guess All GCC ladies are the most Beautiful to go for!!
We dont need lebanon, But if they Include Yemenis then that's going to wonderful full complete choice of chicks :)
Excuuuse me? "Full complete choice of CHICKS"?! You think this is a market for animals to be sold?
:yell:
AGCC and GCC are the same thing i.e. just those first six countries mentioned. The "A" stands for "Arabian" as in "Arabian Gulf", which Arab countries like to call it instead of "Persian Gulf" which makes some uncomfortable! But more commonly it's just shortened to "The Gulf".
Just wondering...what happens to an Omani man or woman who marries a foreigner without permission?
ToomuchaT 13-04-05, 05:15 PM .. Too much late!! :color:
Arabian Princess 13-04-05, 06:09 PM what happens to an Omani man or woman who marries a foreigner without permission?
thier marraige wouldnt considered legal in the country ie. thier kids wouldnt be able to get the nationality ..
.. Too much late!! :color:
You still have 3 slots :hehe:
thier marraige wouldnt considered legal in the country ie. thier kids wouldnt be able to get the nationality ..
Whoopee. For the women their children wouldnt get it anyway, so whats the biggie?
CrazyReD 14-04-05, 02:46 AM Omani women rule why would anyone want to marry out his/her country
but yeah love o all that
Not bad at all. No one likes to be limited in the end.
ToomuchaT 14-04-05, 04:44 PM You still have 3 slots :hehe:
.. i cant ask for death wish!! lol
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.. i think the number of singles or spinsters will increase in Oman coz of the high dowry .. unless this step makes the dowry goes down!!
Can someone else answer my question please?
ToomuchaT 14-04-05, 04:50 PM .. what question ??
Libellula 14-04-05, 05:19 PM Awesome! :p
I really don't want to marry an Omani.
I think it's great to be able to choose who you want to marry, even though you're still limited to Gulf nationals only. Still that's a start.
Libellula 14-04-05, 05:21 PM Whoopee. For the women their children wouldnt get it anyway, so whats the biggie?
The government wouldn't consider them as married, and if there are any sort of problems in the future, things can get really complicated maybe..?
I can't think of a situation though
I don't think they casn consider you not married if you are married properly according to Shari3a. So what can they do to you, apart from not allow your children Omani nationality, which wouldn't apply to children of an Omani woman with a foreign husband anyway? (I think that's wrong by the way). Is there any other sanction they would take against Phoenix if she ran off with a Lubnani and was married properly by a Sheikh? Would they take away your passport as well?!
I think Mimosa, that it's only that you wouldn't have the right to turn to the Embassy if you're abroad for help, and when you're kids come along, they wouldnt' have a right... i suppose can't take away your passport and just leave you to nothing.. It simply makes you're life a little bit complicated (in the future possibly?)
Arabian Princess 15-04-05, 05:33 PM Is there any other sanction they would take against Phoenix if she ran off with a Lubnani and was married properly by a Sheikh? Would they take away your passport as well?!
you wouldnt be allowed a govt job, you will have to present your case to the courts .. these are the things I heared about .. I dont know about taking your passport away.
well ,,, its a good step for oman ,,, :cute: ,,,
so we will have many omani here ,, sounds good
ToomuchaT 16-04-05, 05:28 AM well ,,, its a good step for oman ,,, :cute: ,,,
so we will have many omani here ,, sounds good
.. the honor is our ;)
well ,,, its a good step for oman ,,, :cute: ,,,
so we will have many omani here ,, sounds good
and Vis Versa We will have many Emirates in Oman :)
I cant wait for that!! I am really looking forward tie the Knot with one of the UAE lady!! :think: :) :hyper:
and Vis Versa We will have many Emirates in Oman :)
I cant wait for that!! I am really looking forward tie the Knot with one of the UAE lady!! :think: :) :hyper:
Right, I think I'm going to look for a rich UEA girl to be my 2nd wife. :)
LOL ..Its the same for us ..Alot of handsome Saudi or Bahraini guys :D
I heard that if you marry a foreigner without permission they take away your passport..(not sure!)
But I am sure they take away your scholarship if you are on one and you do marry a foreigner without permission..basically no government finacial support.
Desert_Sloath 17-04-05, 09:14 PM is this an outcome of things discussed at the, AGCC/GCC, last summit ?
it is a step towards 'right', direction though where 'direction' is i don't know.
certainly a reform by all standard and i must say this is the benefit of having the educated running public offices. they do sympathise. i,i, i only wish they could have extended to Italy as well nice babes there, with rose chicks, they don't need all that make-up.
where is my Dear Mti i'd love his comments.
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I thought we were allowed to marry GCC people ages ago!! :rolleyes:
AGCC and GCC are the same thing i.e. just those first six countries mentioned. The "A" stands for "Arabian" as in "Arabian Gulf", which Arab countries like to call it instead of "Persian Gulf" which makes some uncomfortable! But more commonly it's just shortened to "The Gulf".
Just wondering...what happens to an Omani man or woman who marries a foreigner without permission?
Nothing much! He/she loses his/her rights to work in the governmnet, passport will be held or cancelled, overseas access would be limited, which would create hell of his/her life, and as well as just the person have to make sure to get ready for a huge loan for payment of fine which could reach upto RO10000 or so I'm not sure about the amount. Moreover no visa for his/her spouse would be issued whatsoever and their kids.
Well if the woman or man got married to a foreigner then the best thing is change their citizenship to their husband's or wife's if trouble needs to be avoided and remember if you ever want to get married to a citizen of a country such as China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia or Pakistan or countries that have the similar rule as in "the person who gets married to a foreigner can keep their citizenship but the foreigner that is spouse of the citizen will not be given the nationality/citizenship of the same".. for example an Indian or Chinese can marry foreigners but their nationality/citizenship will not be given to their spouse..... Like for example Sonia Gandhi is an Italian lady, her husband was former Prime Minister of India (Rajive Gandhi), her kids are Indians, still she wasn't given her Indian nationality for very long time, but then about 6 or 7 years a go she got it. Naima Abdel Rahman, a famous star of Malaysia, she was married to a British, he wasn't given Malay nationality, but instead they gave him one years Residence Permit to come and visit his wife, and I guess he has to leave out of the Malaysian boarders every 3 or 6 months and then come back again... its very complicated...
However, starting with GCC is a good step I guess! But then its a bit racist concept though, if they should allow they should do it to the whole world, but then yes if they want to restrict to ONLY MUSLIMS, that is also fine... but again the case is the government is thinking for the best of the citizens, especially when it comes to Women in Islam, they can be devorced any time, so imagine if a women got married to an Indian or Pakistani, or say any nation, after the person gets his Omani nationality of course he "might" ditch her or something that is why such rule is used says one of the officials of Ministry of Interior who is a good friend of mine... so therefore the government is just concerned about female citizens by not allowing and making it stronger rules applied over them.
But as of men, they just have to strugle and show some how the female he is willing to get married to is related to him "COUSINS"...
Well been all there :( ... and strugled a lot in there, but got nothing as of yet, not even an answer as of yet!
But hey! Omani girls aren't bad...I met some, who I actually find them very interesting.... but what to do???? All of them are like friends and can't date them... feel very strange to date friends unless I met that girl for such intention.
Desert_Sloath 18-04-05, 10:43 AM "might" ditch her or something
soo ! "might & something" formulates a law, i wonder or there might have already been such cases that justifies the ruling ?
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why not that the "might & something" never occur ?
a "protection" would have incorporated some kind of KONDITIONS to the advantage of a person nedeeded 2b protected - i'd have supposed ?
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UmHamed 18-04-05, 11:00 AM I thought we were allowed to marry GCC people ages ago!! :rolleyes: You are right I thought the same.... I know many omanis who are married to UAEs :rolleyes:
passerby here 18-04-05, 03:38 PM thats good news :)
soo ! "might & something" formulates a law, i wonder or there might have already been such cases that justifies the ruling ?
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why not that the "might & something" never occur ?
a "protection" would have incorporated some kind of KONDITIONS to the advantage of a person nedeeded 2b protected - i'd have supposed ?
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I guess you are right, maybe we could just not give nationality for the foreigner who is married to a citizen, and therefore apply some condition that would typically stand for us, but again we also have to guarentee fairness to others as in the rule will not be misused.
Conditions such as "a foreigner would lose any rights in the the Sultanate at once if he/she divorces his/her Omani spouse, and therefore the government would give 28 days or time of a month to leave the country. A second marriage to another citizen will not be permitted at anytime whatsoever, neither to remain in the nation with whatsoever permission have been obtained such as investor's/business visa, labour visa or even Residence Permit, will be cancelled accordingly, and therefore will not be liable for any permits to reside in Oman whatsoever from other sponsers. The children, have their full rights if above 15 years of age to choose to remain with one of the parents."
Such strong conditions could be applied, but still people would find loopholes and they would go against it. But since this would be a ROYAL DECREE then I guess no one could go against it.... so yeah maybe as you said conditions could be applied!
PhaHaDde 22-04-05, 09:23 PM Just wondering...what happens to an Omani man or woman who marries a foreigner without permission?
Salam,
1) Passport will be taken by the government.
2) R.O.2,000 Fine.
3) If he/she works in government sector, will be taken out of the job.
That's what I know. If they have kids, I think the government will give them the omani citizenship.
Salam..
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thank God that i didnt fall in love with an Omani guy.. otherwise i will be in a big problem now :)..
but im in love with OMAAAAAAAAAAn :)
Arabian Princess 26-04-05, 03:09 PM I thought we were allowed to marry GCC people ages ago!!
you were allowed, but with an approval from the govt. Now, you dont need one
Angel_Eyes 09-05-05, 11:26 AM Yeah, there is no wrong in doing so!!! People should feel free to marry anyone they want ,even from other countries! if someone wants to marry a monkey then that's that person's life! hahah!
mr.fix.it 09-05-05, 07:48 PM I have to admit that I have agreed with most of people here its nice to have more freedom of choice and have many options there, and it is really step forward, but I think one thing every one have forgotten here, is I would like to comment about it seems to me,that no one thought about the (nassb and assel) and our prophet he did mentioned about that (try to keep it)?, I’m not angst it at all and not resist ,,,,,,,,but what about that any comment,,,,!!!
Er...I thought the Prophet (pbuh) said the opposite, and encouraged people to marry from outside?
And if Islam is not racist/nationalist, why is the law?
Arabian Princess 09-05-05, 09:13 PM to limit another social problem .. look at the UAE which allows marrying forigners, lots of girls there remain unmarried because the culture forbidds them to marry a forigner while its easier for a guy to do so.
Its not related to Islam, its just a method to limit social problems.
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