View Full Version : Lets Save America - Ban Anime Now


Namika
26-01-05, 10:32 AM
check out this link... they are talking about Banning Anime in USA.. not that it concerns us but who knows..

Lets Save America - Ban Anime Now (http://www.petitiononline.com/cutiepie/petition.html)

DeSerTDesTroYeR
26-01-05, 10:52 AM
This is hilirious! I've seen Ah my Goddess and there isnt even an old man! Nor any naked people for sure. Is he confused with some american pornographic movies (as in local)?

Same goes with love hina... anyway... what is more amusing that he is trying to make a petition on anime, while they already have a huge pornographic of many categories produced over there. And not forgetting all the movies / tv series / programs ...etc... with such similiar means to what he claims.

Funny world... :p

It seems, he doesnt like imported japanese products. Maybe he has another petition against japanese cars... :duh:

But again, maybe he is simply misguided. And saw a hentai version of these anime :mmhmm:

CrazyReD
26-01-05, 10:57 AM
yeah lets ban Anime but keep the porn industries, the legal prostation in vegas and all that but ban anime
LOOOOOOOOL :hehe:

NaBHaN
26-01-05, 12:26 PM
we muslims are the last to speak about how 'hilarious' that is. islamically speaking.. most anime is actually haram . so I understand how that strict christian would want to get it banned , not that i agree with it , but i do understand his concern , cause anime attracts the younger generation the most and well it could have some negative effects on them.

Pineapple Thief
26-01-05, 12:28 PM
Why is most anime haram?

NaBHaN
26-01-05, 12:38 PM
Why is most anime haram?
why isnt it?

It promotes sex and violence. I have watched 'love Hina' and its very preverted.

Enigma
26-01-05, 12:39 PM
we muslims are the last to speak about how 'hilarious' that is. islamically speaking.. most anime is actually haram . so I understand how that strict christian would want to get it banned , not that i agree with it , but i do understand his concern , cause anime attracts the younger generation the most and well it could have some negative effects on them.

I'm impressed Nabhan! I didn't expect that from you..

Pineapple Thief
26-01-05, 12:43 PM
Yeah, a lot of it is mad stuff. A lot of it does promote sex and, well, maybe not promote violence, but it certainly endorses it. Obviously not all anime, but yeah if we were to look at it from that perspective, thats true. The only problem is, that most of what comes out of Hollywood is fits those categories as well. So what to do :os

Pineapple Thief
26-01-05, 12:45 PM
LOL i just read the petition, and I cant think that this could be anything other than a JOKE! In the least, its just some humour, at worst, its some stinging criticism about the state of 'values' in the US right now. Kudos to this good Christian :D

The FUNNIEST thing is that theres almost 5000 signatures!

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 12:49 PM
Anime is not translated at Cartoon for Kids, it is a form of entertainment, just like movies, music, and TV. It is not directed to a single category and does not carry the same message. Anime can be about any topic, and can have ANYTHING. There is anime that is directed to children, another to school boys, another one to teenagers, to families, there is anime about terrorism, about magic, about God, of course there is also anime porn and it is called Hentai, and there is even homosexual anime, and it is called Yaoi. Anime is just like "Cinema", you cannot label it as pornographic, violent, religious, or childish, each different movie has its own theme, would be suitable for a different category, and obviously would be different from the other ones. It is stupid to call Anime pornographic, cause that would be just like calling the Cinema pornographic. Simply don't go to the wrong show, and you would be alright.

Namika
26-01-05, 02:06 PM
Nabs, if ther person who wrote that was really concerned about his country and is strict he would have talked about their movies.. I mean why only Anime?

I am not saying that Anime doesn't promote sex and other things but even thier movies and series does that.. and Anime is not for kids its for grown ups... they should start for the roots which are the things they have in USA not go on attack Japan and Anime like that..

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 02:21 PM
People, did you know that this petition was made in 2002?! I don't think a single person took it seriously.

DeSerTDesTroYeR
26-01-05, 03:41 PM
Any one seen Ah! my Goddess here? Check what the petition says... and that is more then enough to know how hilirious it is :p

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 03:51 PM
DeDe, this petition must've been a joke.

NaBHaN
26-01-05, 04:03 PM
Ignoring the fact that this petition could be a joke or even fake.. we do have a good discussion point here about anime and its negative effects..

after all Anime looks more attractive than movies to the young generation , so basically it could easily be much more damaging and influencial.

CrazyReD
26-01-05, 11:39 PM
then we should ban movies, sitcomes everything

we are adults and such things shouldn't be such an influence and if you notice what space toon has on tv it's not hentai or ecchi

Milliardo Peacecraft
28-01-05, 01:26 PM
I love it when idiots like this come around. I didn't read the link (no need to--just a waste of my time IMO), but I would think that this comes from some Fundie who thinks his denomination is the only one going to heaven.

ti3gib
28-01-05, 02:24 PM
I kinda agree with this guy ... Anime is 'targeted' for kids ... and anyone who chooses not belive that is just kiddin himself ...

and whats really bothering me is that English Sabla has an Anime forum within the Art Sabla ? ... wake up people ...

DeSerTDesTroYeR
28-01-05, 04:01 PM
As there is movies for kids and others for grown up.. there is the same with anime.. simple as that ... soo the targeting is the specific anime's/movies itself for kids. Not a whole generalized category.

ti3gib
28-01-05, 11:03 PM
Sure ... I agree ...
but that's what the rules say ... and rules are made to be broken ...
ask people and the answer will be different ...

and you didn't answer my question : How is anime a form of art ... ??

CrazyReD
28-01-05, 11:07 PM
I kinda agree with this guy ... Anime is 'targeted' for kids ... and anyone who chooses not belive that is just kiddin himself ...

and whats really bothering me is that English Sabla has an Anime forum within the Art Sabla ? ... wake up people ...

umm actually you should wake up

this is just a stereo type anime/cartoons are for kids

video and computer games are for kids

they arn't if they were then we wouldn't need ratings

CrazyReD
28-01-05, 11:08 PM
anime is a form of art because

you need to draw them ;)

NaBHaN
28-01-05, 11:34 PM
umm actually you should wake up


lol.. I dont think there's a need to get all agressive here. After all its just about taste..some people like anime and some dont.. so obviously some would see the disadvantages and want it gone..while other fanatics would just defend it to death cause they cant accept the idea of it being banned.

Blue_Chi
29-01-05, 12:51 AM
I can't believe that people don't realise the point that anime is not a 'genre' but a 'platform'. :think:

Pineapple Thief
29-01-05, 12:52 AM
Lets Save America - Educate Our Children Now.


Everything else is secondary.

Milliardo Peacecraft
29-01-05, 03:40 AM
I kinda agree with this guy ... Anime is 'targeted' for kids ... and anyone who chooses not belive that is just kiddin himself ...

No, there are different forms of anime. The ones that target kids are the likes of Pokemon, but not all anime are like that. Some have very mature topics (Neon Genesis Evangelion). Kids won't be able to sit 5 minutes of it listening to psycho babble.

Milliardo Peacecraft
29-01-05, 03:43 AM
Lets Save America - Educate Our Children Now.

Can I start with the guy who made that site? I'd love to slap him around to wake him up.

But seriously, the best thing is to ignore the site. Making a thread about the site in anime boards would only make him think he's getting the attention he never deserved, and would flatter him. Ignoring him would mean that his plan is not working, though I agree that people should be educated about anime.

Namika
29-01-05, 07:55 AM
I kinda agree with this guy ... Anime is 'targeted' for kids ... and anyone who chooses not belive that is just kiddin himself ...

and whats really bothering me is that English Sabla has an Anime forum within the Art Sabla ? ... wake up people ...


just to correct you Anime was not targeted for kids only. There are many types of Anime and some are for Adults..

And anime is Japanese Animation Art and its considered part of the Japanese culture..

ti3gib
29-01-05, 11:09 AM
just to correct you Anime was not targeted for kids only. There are many types of Anime and some are for Adults..

And anime is Japanese Animation Art and its considered part of the Japanese culture..

Yes .. but does that change the fact that Anime is put in a way so 'kids' would want it ...

It's just like cigarette ... they say it's for +18 ... but if you can't the people -18 that smoke you will be shocked ? ...

Everything related to business is not about 'pleasing' your customer ... it's about 'targeting' your customer ... and to do that you have to put your product/service in a form that your customer would like ...

now .. Do I need to tell you that the most form kids like ? ...
Cartoon .. which is how this proudt chooses to be publicized in ...

I know what you people mean when you are talking about ratings and age limitations ... but who really cares about them ...

I can't have a better example than this ... in Porno movies ... the rating is put on a little circle in one of the corners .. would you really keep staring at your the little stupid circle that takes less than 1/20th of the screen size ... or just the movie ???

Later ... and btw im not attacking anyone here ...

Milliardo Peacecraft
29-01-05, 12:12 PM
Yes .. but does that change the fact that Anime is put in a way so 'kids' would want it ...

Yes, it does. Let me put it this way: there are anime specifically for kids, and there are anime for teens, for adults, etc. It's just a matter of who you want to show it to. Unfortunately for those outside Japan, most equate anime as kids' cartoons. It's not that simple, though. The medium just happens to be animation; it doesn't necessarily imply that it should be for kids.

ti3gib
29-01-05, 02:43 PM
from what I understand then ...
is that there are adults that prefer moving drawing over real life filming ??

Milliardo Peacecraft
29-01-05, 03:49 PM
from what I understand then ...
is that there are adults that prefer moving drawing over real life filming ??

Yes, there are adults who would prefer watching anime than live action.

Blue_Chi
29-01-05, 04:07 PM
I do not understand what ti3gib means by the term 'Adults'. But Blood Rose, Bloom, DeDe, Crazy Red, myself, and Millardo (if the profile is correct) are all over 20 years old.

Namika
30-01-05, 07:48 AM
The problem is no one understand Anime :( sad but true..