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Ocean
25-01-05, 08:03 PM
:think: I need to buy one of the 2 mobiles { nokia 9500 communicator or PC pocket I mate}, but I don’t knew which one is most excellent , guys tell me what u think !!! :help:

Blue_Chi
25-01-05, 08:10 PM
Nokia 9500 all the way! I just bought this phone last week and I love it! It is big, but it is still carriable (lol, I made it sound so bad), but no really, you get used to the size, and it is not MASSIVELY big. I love the features, let me say that again, I ADORE THE FEATURES OF THE PHONE. It's got office tools that allow you to work on your Word and excel files and pass then back to your PC, you can synchronise your email with it. And of course, you can browse the internet on the thing, the screen is so good, and Opera browser is just so crazy.

The best feature about the phone is WIFI, the I-mate does not have this feature, using WIFI you can have access to WLANs around you, if you are at university or anywhere where they would have a WLAN installed you would be able to enjoy broadband speed internet at your mobile phone. You can even use your phone as a modem to connect your WLAN-less computer to WLAN using the phone.

The features that I use the most though are my eBook reader and the MP3 player, which are both my essential tools. I hate the front keypad of the thing, the MENU button outside is just so hard to press, but I think that I just need to get used to it. The system can run at slow speeds at time, but overall it runs at stable speed. I installed some Arabic fonts in the system so now I can read Arabic messages, though I still do not have an Arabic plug-in for my Opera browser.

The Imate is considered old, it runs Windows OS, while the Communicator runs Nokia S80 OS. The communicator is the only mobile phone in the market that has the WIFI feature.

I never tried the Imate, but I love my Nokia 9500.

Blue_Chi
25-01-05, 08:21 PM
BTW, shouldn't this topic be moved to the IT Sabla?

Ocean
25-01-05, 08:36 PM
Nokia 9500 all the way! I just bought this phone last week and I love it! It is big, but it is still carriable (lol, I made it sound so bad), but no really, you get used to the size, and it is not MASSIVELY big. I love the features, let me say that again, I ADORE THE FEATURES OF THE PHONE. It's got office tools that allow you to work on your Word and excel files and pass then back to your PC, you can synchronise your email with it. And of course, you can browse the internet on the thing, the screen is so good, and Opera browser is just so crazy.

The best feature about the phone is WIFI, the I-mate does not have this feature, using WIFI you can have access to WLANs around you, if you are at university or anywhere where they would have a WLAN installed you would be able to enjoy broadband speed internet at your mobile phone. You can even use your phone as a modem to connect your WLAN-less computer to WLAN using the phone.

The features that I use the most though are my eBook reader and the MP3 player, which are both my essential tools. I hate the front keypad of the thing, the MENU button outside is just so hard to press, but I think that I just need to get used to it. The system can run at slow speeds at time, but overall it runs at stable speed. I installed some Arabic fonts in the system so now I can read Arabic messages, though I still do not have an Arabic plug-in for my Opera browser.

The Imate is considered old, it runs Windows OS, while the Communicator runs Nokia S80 OS. The communicator is the only mobile phone in the market that has the WIFI feature.

I never tried the Imate, but I love my Nokia 9500.


Thanks, Blue_Chi for the interesting information, it gives more credit to 9500 so far. :)

Blue_Chi
25-01-05, 08:39 PM
You are very welcome Ocean, we are at the service of all the people of Al-Suwaiq City. XD!

Storm
25-01-05, 10:02 PM
i really didnt know alot about both mobiles,,, sounds too much for me :hehe: ,, but i think its more useful for B.men and students ,,,


BTW, shouldn't this topic be moved to the IT Sabla?

i think so :think:

Ocean
26-01-05, 02:13 AM
i really didnt know alot about both mobiles,,, sounds too much for me :hehe: ,, but i think its more useful for B.men and students ,,,




i think so :think:


U right it’s very helpful in term of study and Business as they are more likely to be a mini laptop.

Blue_Chi thank man ;) :)

DeSerTDesTroYeR
26-01-05, 09:35 AM
Blue_chi: Is there any mobiles comparable to the Nokia 9500? Maybe like the Sony E P900/P910 ?

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 01:05 PM
Dear DD, there are all sorts of mobile phones that you can use as an alternative, with no doubt, the Nokia 9500 is massive in size, this is because of the QWERTY keyboard within the phone. People want to the Nokia 9500 to browse the internet and work on the go, and you would need the QWERTY keyboard to do so. The SE P900 is quiet powerful, but it does not have a QWERTY keyboard, it instead has a touch screen a stylus, which makes comparing the two phones difficult.

Touch screen make navigation much easier, you can easily click on things that you see when you browse the internet and you can write things on the screen and have then transferred to text by text-recognition technologies. On the other hand, touch screens can be easily damaged, and it can be really annoying to have to pull the stylus everytime you wanted to do something. Another thing is that you cannot put big amounts of text using the stylus.

The SE P900 OS is also similar to that of the Nokia S60 mobiles (6600, 7610, 7650, 3650 etc), and is not really as powerful as that of the Nokia S80 OS (Communicator). You can still install features office tools on your SE P900 just like you would actually do with the 6600, but their screen is not as big as that of the communicator nor its features. I can't believe that I've been comparing these two phones together as they are from a totally different category and have nothing similar at all.

The communicator is for people that WANT TO USE its features, don't mind the size, and would like to have excellent connectivity features. It has a bulit-in MP3 player, real player, has 80 MB of internal space, Hot-Swap MMC feature, WIFI, Blue Tooth, Office compatible tools, and the Opera Browser.

I think that it would be much easier to compare the Nokia 9500 to the Imate, but you can actually just compare it to the other communicator coming from Nokia, the Nokia 9300, which is much much smaller than the Nokia 9500, but just lacks the WIFI feature, which is the thing that actually makes the Nokia 9500 the most special phone available.

DeSerTDesTroYeR
26-01-05, 03:56 PM
blue_chi: I think the SE P910.. does have a QWERTY and lots of the features you mentioned. Or you actually when you mentioned P900 you meant it and P910?

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 05:03 PM
Oops! I was talking about the P900, the P910 does have a QWERTY keyboard, but the Nokia 9500 keyboard is a real keyboard, with the same layout that we have for computer keyboards. The Sony Ericsson has a MUCH BETTER camera than that of the Nokia 9500, and the SE also have better customisable features for its outer screen. But once again, the QWERTY keyboard of the SE P910 is extremely small and you have to use it with one hand, but that of the Nokia 9500 could be put be placed of a surface. The Nokia 9500 OS is much more powerful than that of the SE P910.

The P910 is not aimed ot compete with the Nokia 9500, they fall in different categories and serve different functions. The SE P910 is a multimedia powerhouse, while the Nokia 9500 is a connectivty office. The actual features and numbers of the Nokia 9500 are more than that of the SE, and the Nokia 9500 is still the only mobile phone that has a WIFI connection for WLAN. The SE P910 looks more stylish and is smaller, but it is not an alternative to the Nokia 9500.

DeSerTDesTroYeR
26-01-05, 05:07 PM
Now that makes more sense.. P910 wise... any ideas of the prices of each?

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 05:48 PM
I do not have exact numbers, but the Nokia 9500 is more expensive than the Sony Ericsson P910 though not by a big amount, the N9500 would probably be 300+, while the SEP910 could be 250+. These are estimations, I do not know the exact prices. :P

DeSerTDesTroYeR
26-01-05, 06:38 PM
well, I know that the P910 is for sure 300+ around 315 R.O last the price came across... so maybe the N9500 is 350?

Anyway...thx for the info :)

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 07:12 PM
It seems that you are planning to get the SE P910! XD I think that if you used to one type of phones you should just continue using it, SE and Nokia are the only mobile phone brands that I would ever consider, but I always end with Nokia because of your userfriendly UI and because I already have all these accessories that I do not wish to transfer to the trash bin just to get a new mobile phone (Memory cards, memory card readers, headset, etc.) And the other thing that really turns me personally off away from the SE is their memory sticks, Nokia phones us the universal MMC that you can find made by all the different brands and at various prices. You can buy a 128 MB MMC for a Nokia phone for less than RO 10, but I guess it will cost you around RO 30 to get a Sony Compact Memory Stick! :shut: (At least!)

Ocean
26-01-05, 07:23 PM
Oops! I was talking about the P900, the P910 does have a QWERTY keyboard, but the Nokia 9500 keyboard is a real keyboard, with the same layout that we have for computer keyboards. The Sony Ericsson has a MUCH BETTER camera than that of the Nokia 9500, and the SE also have better customisable features for its outer screen. But once again, the QWERTY keyboard of the SE P910 is extremely small and you have to use it with one hand, but that of the Nokia 9500 could be put be placed of a surface. The Nokia 9500 OS is much more powerful than that of the SE P910.

The P910 is not aimed ot compete with the Nokia 9500, they fall in different categories and serve different functions. The SE P910 is a multimedia powerhouse, while the Nokia 9500 is a connectivty office. The actual features and numbers of the Nokia 9500 are more than that of the SE, and the Nokia 9500 is still the only mobile phone that has a WIFI connection for WLAN. The SE P910 looks more stylish and is smaller, but it is not an alternative to the Nokia 9500.




U knew Blue_Chi that is i will buy nokia 9500 :)

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 07:25 PM
Go Ocean, go Ocean, go!

Where are you going to buy it from?

Ocean
26-01-05, 07:32 PM
Go Ocean, go Ocean, go!

Where are you going to buy it from?

I don't knew yet but i am thinking of buy it from Dubai as the price might be little bit less , and it's not that far from where i live. Tell me what u think from where u got urs.

Blue_Chi
26-01-05, 07:35 PM
I had an offer for mine cause I upgraded my contract with Vodafone UK for another year. I agree with you in that the price would be probably cheaper in Dubai.

Ocean
26-01-05, 09:40 PM
I had an offer for mine cause I upgraded my contract with Vodafone UK for another year. I agree with you in that the price would be probably cheaper in Dubai.


oh man i can't wait to have it

Muscati
29-01-05, 11:12 AM
Oh God, this phone issue is giving me a headache. Nokia refuse to make a single phone that has all the features that I want.

Love the 9500, except I need a phone with T9 text input. Sometimes you just want to fire off a quick SMS without having to open up the phone and use the full QWERTY. Why does Nokia assume that since you have a full keyboard you don't need T9 no more? Plus why no megapixel camera?

SE P910, excellent phone, even has T9. But why no Wi-Fi, and why the hell isn't the camera mega pixel? Most frustratingly, I can't stand any company that uses proprietory devices, and that includes Sony's silly Memory Sticks.

Nokia 9300, excellent compromise for those who want a communicator and don't care for the WiFi, plus the size is just so damn sexy. No camera, but what use do you have for the crap camera in the 9500 anyhow?

Final choice? D*mned if I know. I can't choose. All I know is that I hate my friggin' 7610 with a passion and I want to get rid of it ASAP while it's still relatively new and has some trade-in value.

Help!

Kamakazy
29-01-05, 03:09 PM
i am going for the Nokia 9500 hands down...

i would need the Wi-Fi for home internet use, i might be able to go to the bathroom and surf the next... talk about bathroom surfing... next i would need a waterproof phone...

what i hate about the Sony Ericsons P900/P910 is that it does not accept picture messages, and that once you open a program, you would not be able to close it till you check the task manager and close it manually... it eats up on the memory and phone works slow...

muscati, do you have problems with your phone software???

Blue_Chi
29-01-05, 03:58 PM
I have to agree with Muscati, I am extremely bugged with the fact that the Noka 9500 does not use the T9 predictive dectionary, for peope like me that never type messages without it, it becomes almost impossible for us to go back and type slow messages. It will take me sometime to go back to the old slow messaging. Another serious draw back in the Nokia 9500 is that it has NO VIBRATION ALERT. The thing does not VIBRATE, it does not have this feature. This is a serious issue for people that actuall depend on their vibration feature all the time (library, work, etc), where they are available to receive calls, but can't actually let the phone ring.

These two drawbacks are really annoying, but I am STILL enjoying my Nokia 9500. The WIFI feature is not an easy thing to just give up. I think that the best phone would be the Nokia 9300, if only it had WIFI.

Muscati
29-01-05, 04:45 PM
What the hell, a business phone that doesn't have a vibrating alert function?? What about those of us who spend half our days in meetings with our phones on silent?

Kamakazy, other than home internet WiFi isn't a big thing in Oman. I have a wifi network in my house. But then again I have two Centrino laptops so if I want I can actually surf the net in the bathroom on a real computer, not a phone.

As for the 7610, I don't think there are any defects in mine. I just hate it. It was totally the wrong choice for me. I shouldn't have bought it in the first place. I can't stand the way it looks, I can't stand the stupid keypad which I can never type a message without making a mistake on. I hate how slow it is. I just hate it. It's 187 rials down the drain unless I trade it in for something I like.

Kamakazy
29-01-05, 04:55 PM
dont they call the 7610 Signal Two because it is shaped as the tooth paste once it is on your toothbrush?

laptop, desktop or phone... i find the phone easier, coz if i get the laptop in, i would need a table for it... my laps are not a stand for laptops... plus i heard its bad for sperm count...

PinkDragon
29-01-05, 05:07 PM
I guess you should forget about the i mate.. !!

my brother bought it and he had a hard time with it.. once its closed because the batery is low, all the data saved in there suddenly disappear...

i'll go for the communicator ..

Kamakazy
30-01-05, 08:53 AM
PinkDragon, your brother could overcome this problem by using external memory... instead of saving all your documents on the systems memory, why not use an external memory...

plus all the contacts are saved in the flash memory, do you dont need to worry about the contacts being erased...

your brother needs to learn not to keep his device uncharged...

Blue_Chi
30-01-05, 02:13 PM
All of the communicator phones lack the vibration feature, it could be a problem with the actual design of it or something. I don't understand why they don't have the vibration feature. I'd also like to warn you, the outside menu of the 9500 is SLOW TO DEATH. Especially when you change the profiles, you have to WAIT for it to SHOW THE "PROFILE CHANGED" alert, AND THEN you can lock your keypad. The central BUTTON outside which have to press to enter or confirm anything, it very hard to press, I think that the chance that you press UP or DOWN instead of OK is more than 50%. The Nokia 9500 has a HOT-SWAP feature to change the memory stick cards without switching off the phone, BUT you will have ot OPEN THE BATTERY COVER to actually change it, there is no external slot that you push your card into.

I am still actually in my evaluation period and I can return my phone to get something else, but I cannot think of another phone that can fullfil all my desires for expansion and multimedia such as this. I still choose to take the Nokia 9500 though I have uncovered so much of its defects.

PhaHaDde
30-01-05, 03:17 PM
Salam,

I was going to go for i.mate until Blue Chi spoke about the communicator. I don't really fancy Nokia mobiles in general. Non of them comes with everything. I guess that's part of thier business plan.
Communicator 9500 is a different thing. It can be compared with pocket pc's but not mobile phones like SE P910i, although SE P910i is a great mobile phone that has almost everything. The only thing that's missing in SE P910i is the Wifi feature, & I guess that's because Wifi is for pocket pc's laptops, which SE P910i is not.
A friend of mine has bought the i.mate XDA II, the latest version am not sure if I had stated the right model number. It cost him R.O.350. He is happy & satisfied with it. It has Wifi feature & that's one of the features that impressed him in the i.mate.
I will do comparisons before I decide which one to go for. I am sure I will end up satisfied with whatever I am going to buy.

Cheers..

DeSerTDesTroYeR
30-01-05, 04:00 PM
Sony Ericsson S700i has wifi though probably doesnt have a fancy input

Blue_Chi
30-01-05, 09:44 PM
PhaHaDde, please do update us with your comparison results! ;)

DeDe, I don't think that the Sony Ericsson S700i has WIFI.

As a continuation to my Nokia 9500 promotional posts, today I present to you the Nokia 9500 data stand.

http://www.nokia.com/BaseProject/Sites/NOKIA_MAIN_18022/CDA/Categories/Phones/PhoneModels/Nokia9500/Enhancements/Data/ConnectivityDeskStandDT-4/_Content/_Static_Files/enh_deskstand_pop.jpg

It comes with the phone and could be optionally used to connect your phone to a computer or even use it for charging the phone. It is really so easy to use as you merely have to put the phone on it, you don't have to press hard or "PUSH IT" in the same way you would have to do to insert the headset or the traditional USB data cable. It has a synchronise button that you can press to start the sync process between your phone and computer; it is my favourite feature of the day.

Gunther
30-01-05, 10:33 PM
i have a nokia 7200 :(

DeSerTDesTroYeR
31-01-05, 01:07 AM
blue_chi: i think you are right! .. i cant find, the site which it said it does have it. And the official site says it doesnt have it as well.

PhaHaDde
31-01-05, 01:35 AM
Salam,

Sounds good. A friend of mine with i.mate says Nokia 9500 does not play wma, wmv & may be also dixv files. While i.mate plays all kind.
Plus Nokia 9500 doesn't support Media player while i.mate does.

Let's share more information.

Regards..

Blue_Chi
31-01-05, 02:47 AM
P,

That's a really awesome feature, I never used an IMate, I would really loved to have WMA audio on my phone. I don't think that there is a WMV player for the N9500, but I think that there is one for AVI.

Kamakazy
01-02-05, 10:07 PM
i am starting to change my mind of the communicator 9500, the major plus point i see in it is the Wifi...

i might go for the 6630 now...

Blue_Chi
01-02-05, 11:30 PM
LOL, I think that I was the person that made everybody get excited and then made everybody just change their mind. The Nokia 9500 RULES, you should go buy it people! :P Today my phone fell on the floor, I was scared to death, but nothing really at all happened to it, it was a miracle.

The 6630 is a nice phone, the only thing that I hate about it is the fact that it uses the reduced size MMC cards, these are different from the regular ones, and this means that people wouldn't be able to exchange cards with other people and wouldn't be to use most of their old MMC accessories.