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ToomuchaT
29-11-04, 10:36 PM
.. the islamic law says that the male inherits the double of what the female inherits of thier father *in that case for example* ..

.. but what if the person was not a male nor a female..emm say; unmanly or womanish.. what is the portion this person will get and on what basis is this decision given??


thnx:)

fatamooo
29-11-04, 10:40 PM
toomuch, are you talking about hermaphrodites? *that is, a person who has the reproductive organs of a male and a female*...

interesting, i never thought about that before... its a very rare case though.

PhaHaDde
29-11-04, 10:43 PM
Salam,

Since Allah created Male & Female only. It will be based on that only.
If a human committed a big sin & changed his real nature, then I believe he/she doesnt mind to commit a smaller sin & inherit according to what they want.

Cheers..

IRONY
29-11-04, 10:52 PM
There is no such thing as not male of female...and if it was a neither then they inherit everything :p lol

Arabian Princess
30-11-04, 08:43 AM
toomuchat, what I know that in these syndrom, a person would learn more into one gender.. so I would think that it would follow the rule of the gender its learning more to.

amo_l_oman
30-11-04, 11:59 AM
Salam,

Since Allah created Male & Female only. It will be based on that only.
If a human committed a big sin & changed his real nature, then I believe he/she doesnt mind to commit a smaller sin & inherit according to what they want.

Cheers..
so according to your explanation, how hermaphrodites are classified?
or is it ok the surgery and then the inherit problem can be solved?

nana
30-11-04, 12:44 PM
well i think that people like these shouldnt get any money...

Arabian Princess
30-11-04, 12:51 PM
They are born like this nana!! Toomuchat isnt talking about people who had a choice!

FaHaD
30-11-04, 01:45 PM
Human are not hermaphrodites...

i guess we are not talking about male who changed to female bu surgery..
there is a disease by which a male is born with female genetalia..but he is male inside... at puberty he start developing secondary male charactristics ( beard, voice etc..) ...

in any of these cases, the individual is male regardless his sex change surgery or his genetelia....

fatamooo
30-11-04, 05:37 PM
humans are not hermaphrodites? well human beings do give birth to hermaphrodites, therefore they must be humans, and should be given every right that other humans are born with ... eventually though, the person will start to feel an inclination towards one gender. i watched a program yesterday on tv about a lebanese family who had a hermaphrodite, they named him/her amal, because s/he looked like a girl at first but the more s/he grew, the broader his/her shoulders, the hairier s/he got, and also amal didnt want to play with the girls at school, but football and stuff with the guys, amal's voice got deeper, and so they took her/him to the doctor, who said that amal was actually a boy! so he underwent a sex change and changed his name to hussein...

IceTea
30-11-04, 09:17 PM
They are born like this nana!! Toomuchat isnt talking about people who had a choice!

In the Quran only mentioned male and female, no 3rd.


لِلَّهِ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاءُ يَهَبُ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ إِنَاثًا وَيَهَبُ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ الذُّكُورَ


To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills (and plans). He bestows (children) male or female according to His Will (and Plan),

Scorpio27
30-11-04, 09:20 PM
Interesting, what actually goes to the poor people.:(
I am eager to learn more from the thread.


Nice thread.

Storm
30-11-04, 09:41 PM
well ,,, i dona know really about this ,,, what i know is either male of female ,,, and if any human is not anyone of them ,,, for sure he/she may be closer to one cause in general he/she cant be nothing

and depending on that ,,, they can be treated like either male ,, or female

Scorpio27
01-12-04, 01:09 AM
Those persons are socially neglected, thats very cruel. :(
Most parents abandone them after taking birth.

malak84
01-12-04, 01:38 PM
They are born like this nana!! Toomuchat isnt talking about people who had a choice!

I didnt heared that this thing is since the people born :think: , strange i dont think so ... :hmm:

fatamooo
01-12-04, 04:38 PM
yes, malak, some people are born with both male and female reproductive organs. they're called hermaphrodites... and they mustn't be confused with transgender people, who perform surgery to change their sex, because these people choose to change themselves, but people like Hussein (who used to be called Amal), did not choose to be both male and female at birth...

what i want to know is, if there are any doctors or science-y people :D reading this, what is responsible for them having both sex's physical traits? I mean, a girls chromosomes are XX and a guys are XY (as far as i remember :p) - then what chromosome does a hermaphrodite get to become like this?

Pineapple Thief
01-12-04, 07:25 PM
With regards to Hussein/Amal, Im guessing right now 'its' considered a male, so...

Arabian Princess
02-12-04, 11:17 AM
To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills (and plans). He bestows (children) male or female according to His Will (and Plan),

we stided about this syndrom in biology Ice Tea ;)

they are born with both reproductive systems .. but as I said, they are either males or females .. they learn towards one gender more.

ToomuchaT
04-12-04, 05:13 AM
.. personally im still looking for more information abt this and hopefully soon will post the answer.. even tho i have it but not sure enough abt it.. after i get the conformation for it i'll post it insha alah.

.. keep the brainstorming ur thoughts :)