Ahmedia Muslim Community !!!!

[Scorpio27]

Are they really Muslim ?
They are breaking the fundamental of Islam the Kalama.
:bang: :help:





They says: Ahmedia Muslim Community ! (The only true caste in Islam)

[Scorpio27]

saudi arabia & other sunni islamic country has declared Ahemdia muslims to be non muslims & declared fatwaa against them.

WHAT IS THE DIFERENCE BETWEN THEM AND US ?

[CrazyReD]

can you give us some informatoin about them?

[Scorpio27]

those who do not accept Hazrat Muhammad (SM) as the last Prophet and believe that another Prophet would descend do not belong to the Muslim Ummah.

http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_13636.shtml

[amo_l_oman]

are the same who believe in promised messiah?

[Pineapple Thief]

Erm, some info on this mysterious community?

[Scorpio27]

I have found a interesting site :

Please check it if you have time.

http://www.alislam.org/books/ahmadiyyat/Pages/page69.jpg
http://www.alislam.org/books/ahmadiyyat/index.htm?page=68&VScroll=0#top

[CrazyReD]

I've probs with the site dunno why

[Scorpio27]

I've probs with the site dunno why
Try this boss! Ahmed... (http://www.alislam.org/) :bang:

[Pineapple Thief]

Hmm, as far as I understand, these people deviate primarily by believing that the Mehdi has already come (and gone, it seems). Much impact he had, then :rolleyes:

http://www.alislam.org/books/ahmadiyyat/Pages/page50.jpg
http://www.alislam.org/books/ahmadiyyat/Pages/page51.jpg

They fall apart when they start talking about 'one true muslims'. In their introduction (which i have not shown) they talk about the aspects of God being more important than what people call him - indicating a tolerance of all (monotheistic) religions. But then their argument falls apart in the pages Ive just shown.

:(

But can you discount them as muslims? Well, it depends on your interpretation of Islam. They believe in Allah, the prophet, the angels, the last day. They believe in the return of a certain messenger. Their only mistake (as we see it) is that they wrongly believe he has already returned. Does that discount them from Islam?

[Scorpio27]

No I guess, but this kind of divisions will put bad impact on Muslim community and shall day by day make Muslim community fragile and grouped. More groups I believe more trouble.
:(

[Pineapple Thief]

i couldnt agree with you more, hasnain my man.

[Scorpio27]

Okay, do you call them Muslim who don't take Muhammed (pubh) as the last prophet?

[EarThQuaKe]

saudi arabia & other sunni islamic country has declared Ahemdia muslims to be non muslims & declared fatwaa against them.

WHAT IS THE DIFERENCE BETWEN THEM AND US ?


KSA Sunnies A.K.A. Wahabi declared that Sufi, Ash3ari and matredi (All are sunnies present in all islamic countries are mubtada3a (kafir), they declared that Ibadhies are kafir and its haram (forbiden) to pray behind them and the must astonishing declaration is "Shi3ah" are not muslims at all...

Now, do you believe all of what KSA mufties say. :)

[EarThQuaKe]

Hmm, as far as I understand, these people deviate primarily by believing that the Mehdi has already come (and gone, it seems). Much impact he had, then :rolleyes:

http://www.alislam.org/books/ahmadiyyat/Pages/page50.jpg
http://www.alislam.org/books/ahmadiyyat/Pages/page51.jpg

They fall apart when they start talking about 'one true muslims'. In their introduction (which i have not shown) they talk about the aspects of God being more important than what people call him - indicating a tolerance of all (monotheistic) religions. But then their argument falls apart in the pages Ive just shown.

:(

But can you discount them as muslims? Well, it depends on your interpretation of Islam. They believe in Allah, the prophet, the angels, the last day. They believe in the return of a certain messenger. Their only mistake (as we see it) is that they wrongly believe he has already returned. Does that discount them from Islam?

Sunnah believe in the mahdi, but they differed in his name.

Shi3ah believe the mahdi is (Mohammed bin alhasan al3askari, he is the 12th Imam and a grandchild of prophet muhammed salla allaho 3alyhe wasalam. Muhammed ran away from the ummawi emmam in a cave as they believe 1250 years ago and he will return with a new mus-haf).

Ibadhism does not believe in Al-Mahdi all together because islam was completed by prophet muhammed salawat allah wasalamoh 3alyh and he stated that he left us 2 things Quran and Sunnah and thats all that we need.