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X-press
22-10-04, 10:57 PM
I am confused....some muslim women tell me that it is forbidden to read the Quran or even recite some verses during menstruations; while others say that you can read the Quran at the moment that you do not physically touch it directly with your hands.

What is the right answer?

HITMAN
22-10-04, 11:02 PM
u can recite it without holding it, though u can hold a translated one (which doesnt have arabic verses in it, only translated ones)!

Scorpio27
23-10-04, 12:21 AM
Dear Hitman

Arabic alphabet is more holy then the holy Quran?

I saw people throw away the Arabic newspaper in the garbage and far more then that.

:( Confused

Scorpio27
23-10-04, 12:22 AM
I don?t believe a woman on menstruation period becomes worst.
That?s neither logical nor humane.

:(

Scorpio27
23-10-04, 12:25 AM
It is sexist and damaging to women to claim that menstruation is in any way "unclean" it is in fact a healthy process that enhances the health of the womb and an essential part of being a women and a positive part of a women's identity. Women are no more unclean than Men. Remember Quran 3:195.

Scorpio27
23-10-04, 12:27 AM
CONTRADICTION:

[2:222] They ask you about menstruation: say, "It is harmful; you shall avoid sexual intercourse with the women during menstruation; do not approach them until they are rid of it. Once they are rid of it, you may have intercourse with them in the manner designed by GOD. GOD loves the repenters, and He loves those who are clean."

:(

HITMAN
23-10-04, 12:30 AM
if i was Shamsery i would have told u "plz read between the lines"...

but ill make an effort to explain again, i never said arabic was more holy...

i meant the MUS-HAF cant be held...

but a translated one is OK to hold!

fatamooo
23-10-04, 12:34 AM
That's not contradictory. It's unclean to sleep with your wife when she has her period. But she herself is not unclean entirely. It's logical if you think about it, there are of course reasons for abstinence during a womans menstrual cycle, and anyways she can't get pregnant during that time.
As for reading the Qoran during a womans period, its not forbidden, but the woman is not allowed to touch the words with her hands or anything like that, just the rest of the page and the cover of the book.

Scorpio27
23-10-04, 12:34 AM
Okay Brother.


I would suggest truth seekers to visit the url to get some hints on menustruation and submission.


http://www.submission.org/women/menses.html

Scorpio27
23-10-04, 12:37 AM
Should we leave her alone for the days of the periods! we should avoid the cooking of the lady on period? Should the baby stop taking breast feeds!

*NK 105*
23-10-04, 12:47 AM
obviously not!!!

X-press
23-10-04, 12:47 AM
As for reading the Qoran during a womans period, its not forbidden, but the woman is not allowed to touch the words with her hands or anything like that, just the rest of the page and the cover of the book.
So it is permissible to put the Quran let's say on a table and turn the pages with a tissue, so there is no direct contact with our hands?

I personally always heard that a woman, who is menstruating, should not directly touch at all the cover or the inside of the Quran. The same if she or even a man are in state of impurity.

I also remember reading last year that some agreed that verses of the holy Quran should not be recited at all while in state of impurity.

*NK 105*
23-10-04, 01:28 AM
u can id3i though .. i know for a fact that if u are studying islamic religion at school or university, and it contained verses from the quran, then it is ok to memorize and read them out.. as well as touching the book, since it is a learning purpose.. and for a girl to not touch her islamic study book for a week every month is ridiculous. so i know for a fact that is allowed!

Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 09:26 AM
XP, this might help:

Question :


Is it permissible to read Quran while a women is having mensus (periods)?

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

This is one of the issues on which the scholars, may Allaah have mercy on them, differed.

The majority of fuqahaa’ say that it is haraam for a woman to recite Qur’aan during her period, until she is taahir (pure) again. The only exceptions they make is in the case of dhikr (remembrance of Allaah) and phrases that are not intended as tilaawah (recitation), such as saying “Bismillaahi’r-Rahmaani’r-Raheem” or “Innaa Lillaahi wa innaa ilayhi raaji’oon”, or other phrases from the Qur’aan which are repeated as general du’aa’s.

They base their evidence for forbidding menstruating women to recite Qur’aan on several things, including the following:

Menstruation is seen as coming under the rulings that apply to one who is junub (in a state of impurity following sexual intercourse), because both states require ghusl. This is based on the hadeeth narrated by ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him), according to which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to teach the Qur’aan and he never prevented anyone from learning it except those who were in a state of janaabah (impurity).” (Reported by Abu Dawood, 1/281; al-Tirmidhi, 146; al-Nisaa’i, 1/144; Ibn Maajah, 1/207; Ahmad, 1/84; Ibn Khuzaymah [??], 1/104. Al-Tirmidhi said: a saheeh hasan hadeeth. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said: the truth is that it is the type of hasan hadeeth that could be used as evidence).

The hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both), according to which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The menstruating woman and the one who is in a state of impurity (janaabah) should not recite anything of the Qur’aan.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 131; Ibn Maajah, 595; al-Daaraqutni (1/117); al-Bayhaqi, 1/89. This is a da’eef hadeeth, because it was reported by Ismaa’eel ibn ‘Ayyaash from the Hijaazis, and his reports from them are da’eef as is well known to those who are conversant with the study of hadeeth. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said (21/460): it is a da’eef hadeeth by the unanimous agreement of the scholars of hadeeth. See Nasb al-Raayah, 1/195; al-Talkhees al-Habeer, 1/183).

Some scholars say that it is permitted for a menstruating woman to recite Qur’aan. This is the opinion of Maalik, and one opinion narrated from Ahmad, which Ibn Taymiyah preferred and which al-Shawkaani believed to be correct. The scholars based the following points on this opinion:

The principle is that things are allowed and permitted unless there is evidence to the contrary. There is no such evidence to say that a menstruating woman is not allowed to recite Qur’aan. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: “There is no clear, saheeh text to indicate that a menstruating woman is forbidden to recite Qur’aan… It is known that women used to menstruate at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he did not forbid them to recite Qur’aan, or to remember Allaah (dhikr) and offer du’aa’.”

Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, commands (Muslims) to recite Qur’aan. He praises the one who does so, and promises him (or her) a great reward. No one is excluded from this except the one concerning whom there is solid evidence (daleel), and there is no such evidence in the case of menstruating women, as stated above.

The analogy between the menstruating woman and the one who is in a state of janaabah is made despite the fact that there are differences between them. The one who is in a state of janaabah has the option of removing the “barrier” by making ghusl, unlike the menstruating woman. A woman’s period usually lasts for some length of time, whereas the person who is in a state of janaabah is required to do ghusl when the time for prayer comes.

Preventing a menstruating woman from reciting Qur’aan deprives her of the chance to earn reward, and it may make her forget something of the Qur’aan, or she may need to recite it for the purposes of teaching or learning.

From the above, it is clear that the evidence of those who allow a menstruating woman to recite Qur’aan is stronger. If a woman wants to err on the side of caution, she can limit her recitation to the passages which she is afraid of forgetting.

It is very important to note that what we have been discussing here is restricted to what a menstruating woman recites from memory. When it comes to reading from the Mus-haf (the Arabic text itself), a different rule applies. The correct view of the scholars is that it is forbidden to touch the mus-haf when one is in any kind of state of impurity, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… which none can touch except the purified.” [al-Waaqi’ah 56:79]. In a letter to ‘Amr ibn Hazm, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told the people of Yemen: “No one should touch the Qur’aan except one who is taahir (pure).” (Reported by Maalik, 1/199; al-Nisaa’i, 8/57; Ibn Hibbaan, 793; al-Bayhaqi, 1/87. Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar said: A group of scholars classed this hadeeth as saheeh because it is so well known. Al-Shaafi’i said: It is proven by them that it was a letter sent by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: “This letter is famous among the scholars of seerah, and is so well known among the scholars that it does not need an isnaad. It is like tawaatur because the people accepted and recognized it. Shaykh al-Albani said that its is saheeh. Al-Talkhees al-Habeer, 4/17. See also: Nasb al-Raayah, 1/196; Irwaa’ al-Ghaleel, 1/158).

(Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen, 1/159; al-Majmoo’, 1/356; Kashshaaf al-Qinaa’, 1/147; al-Mughni, 3/461; Nayl al-Awtaar, 1/226; Majmoo’ al-Fataawaa, 21/460; al-Sharh al-Mumti’ li’l-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 1/291)

And Allaah knows best.



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Persian Queen
23-10-04, 09:54 AM
x-press i know that wome ain't allowed to touch quran during period.But i recall i asked once that if the women really need to read to read qurn at a moment of fear and to feel much better they say no problem .

and alllah know.

Dr N
23-10-04, 02:50 PM
From what I know, you can't touch the Quran during your period, and you shouldn't be reading it. Maybe reciting a few verses is okay, but that's about it I guess.

fatamooo
23-10-04, 03:17 PM
I don't think that can be right because how can we study for our Islamic tests and things like that while we have our periods? We can't be excused from it ... so I guess its ok.

Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 07:36 PM
fatamoo, the tests parts is a tharoora (need) and shouldn applied to all cass!

Enigma
24-10-04, 06:45 PM
"Even some of those scholars who are generally in favor of disallowing menstruating women from reading the Qur’an from the mushaf have considered it permissible for them to do so if they are teachers or students or they are afraid of forgetting what they have memorized.

Having cited the various views let me conclude by saying:
Should there be dire necessity for you to do so, you are definitely allowed to read the Qur’an, either from your heart or mind, or by holding the Qur’an itself. If there is no such necessity, then you can definitely listen to the Qur’an, for there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever in the sources to indicate that listening to the Qur’an in the state of menstruation is forbidden"

http://islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=108198