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Arabian Princess
10-10-04, 10:38 AM
alright, Ramdhan is coming soon inshallah :)
before the months comes, some people might have doubts about certain issues about fasting and so on .. so, why dont we help each other coz if I have a doubt someone else might have an answer ..
However, lets make sure that we are backed by proper fatwa .. we are talking about people's fast here .. we shouldnt just give advices if they are not backed by a real fatwa alright?
so who has the first question ...
I have a question... My lips get dry fast and I am used of wearing natural color lip gloss, my question is can I wear it during Ramadhan or not?
If I don't wear gloss my lips get dry and I have to lick them every second to get them wet.. itsn't that bad during Ramadhan?
Scorpio27
10-10-04, 11:42 AM
I have a question... My lips get dry fast and I am used of wearing natural color lip gloss, my question is can I wear it during Ramadhan or not?
If I don't wear gloss my lips get dry and I have to lick them every second to get them wet.. itsn't that bad during Ramadhan?
Yes dear, that’s very nice question, especially if the fasting time falls in cold winter. :scratch:
Scorpio27
10-10-04, 11:46 AM
BloodRose hope it helps:
Acts which are allowed while u fast
(a) Cleaning teeth using a miswak or a brush and ear with cotton swabs
(b) Applying oil or henna to hair
(c) Using eye-drops or kohl (surma/kajal).
(d) Wearing perfume
(e) Taking a shower
(f) Vomiting unintentionally
(g) Entrance of smoke or dust into the throat unintentionally
(h) Ejaculation while dreaming
(i) Delaying the ghusl of janabah upto sunrise.
:flamed:
LEARN MORE (http://www.kingstonmosque.org.uk/Islam/Ramadhan.htm)
BR, instead of using a lipgloss why don't you use chapstick? It won't make your lips look so kissable & attractive but it'll give you the moistening you need.
Thank you for the answers just waiting for more opinions.. :)
BR, instead of using a lipgloss why don't you use chapstick? It won't make your lips look so kissable & attractive but it'll give you the moistening you need.
so its ok wearing something that makes my lips moist? and the gloss i wear doesn't make my lips look attractive or kissable :p but will do as you said... Thanks for the answer...
now Hasnin provided a link that says wearing Ku7l is ok but what I know is that it attracts guys :lost:
Scorpio27
10-10-04, 12:00 PM
BR, instead of using a lipgloss why don't you use chapstick? It won't make your lips look so kissable & attractive but it'll give you the moistening you need.
Yes, That’s a great Idea. :gap:
I hope BL shall appreciate and be happy.
what about:
1- deodorants
2- toothpaste
Arabian Princess
10-10-04, 12:27 PM
toothpaste are said to be a muftirat coz they have a sweet agent in them and oculd go into the throat ..
deodrant and perfume are fine.
Arabian Princess
10-10-04, 12:30 PM
(i) Delaying the ghusl of janabah upto sunrise.
Some Scholars says that this is not acceptable at all, Ghusul should be done BEFORE imsak .. plus, a muslim has to pray fajer, how can he delay ghusul till sunrise?!!
Teacher AP what about Gloss or anything to moist the lips.. :hyper: as Niggy and Hasnin replied me but I need more opinions..
Arabian Princess
10-10-04, 12:33 PM
as I heared wallahu allam that sometimes you would lick the gloss which could iftar you .. so if u know u are going to lick it .. better not use it.
well I don't lick it at all as if I dont' wear it i end up licking my lips.. and what about Kuhul?
Arabian Princess
10-10-04, 12:47 PM
kuhul is not haram .. wallahu allam
OK here's a question. Obviously women can't fast when they're menstruating and have to 'pay back' the days they didn't fast once Ramadhan is over. My question is: when's the latest time a women can pay back these days? I think Abadhis and Sunnis have different points of view regarding this point so I'd like to hear both plz. I have a Sunni friend who's paying back her days at the moment just one week before Ramadhan. I'm not 100% sure but I think we Abadhis aren't allowed to leave it so late. Can someone plz clarify.
Arabian Princess
10-10-04, 02:28 PM
you can pay your days from the day after eid, until the before the last of shaaban ..
Abadhaiya says its better to pay it before .. but you are allowed to pay it before ramdhan comes except the last day .. which is called "youm al shak"
(just to confirm to members, the questions I gave answers to without a link ..its not because I am 3alima or a scholar .. its just because I went to a muhadhara last tuesdy and these questions were asked. so, if you are not sure the exact answer was asked then you should bring a source. )
amo_l_oman
10-10-04, 02:31 PM
Dunno about sects, in general they must be made up as soon as possible and if before Ramadan for example, if you have 3 days then you must do in order not to fast the last 3 days before the start and so on.
Arabian Princess
10-10-04, 02:32 PM
and to add to that, if in case you didnt fast them within one year .. and it was passed to after ramdhan . you have to pay them and feed a person on every day.
Some Scholars says that this is not acceptable at all, Ghusul should be done BEFORE imsak .. plus, a muslim has to pray fajer, how can he delay ghusul till sunrise?!!
AP there is a clear Hadith about this saying:
"من اصبح جنبا فقد افطر"
Okay another q.s. as I am in a forgein country ramadan hardly exists or felt here! anyways if i keep on seeing couples snuggling and bla bla does that break my fast and i don't stare it just happens whereever i turn my head i see stuff like this!!!
Oh yeah one more thing can I listen to music when am fasting or will that break my fast???
ToomuchaT
12-10-04, 07:42 PM
*does listening to music while fasting break the fast?
*is giving a bad reputation (i mean in the forum) break the fast?
2muchat.
Oh yeah one more thing can I listen to music when am fasting or will that break my fast???
I STRONGLY advise you not to.
I am no Imam or anything to be able to issue a fatwa and tell you that it WILL break your fast but because there is so much shubha surrounding the ruling on music its best not to if you care about the validation of your fast.
Arabian Princess
12-10-04, 08:02 PM
Like Enigma said, u shouldnt ..
regarding watching couples and all .. you should try to avoid it as much as you can especially if it arouse you .. if you cant .. just dont look at them and look down. thats my opinion not a fatwa.
toomuchat, my opinion is ramdhan is the month of forgivness .. so, if you give a bad rep it means you are angry .. and you shouldnt be angry while fasting ;)
it wouldnt invalidate your fast, ofcourse.
Don Khaled
12-10-04, 08:23 PM
Okay another q.s. as I am in a forgein country ramadan hardly exists or felt here! anyways if i keep on seeing couples snuggling and bla bla does that break my fast and i don't stare it just happens whereever i turn my head i see stuff like this!!!
What matters is your good intention. So try not to star at them, distract yourself with something else, and if you can not remove your sight from them, then go somewhere else. And Inshallah your fast will be accepted.
*is giving a bad reputation (i mean in the forum) break the fast?
2muchat.
I think it depends on the reason you are giving the bad reputation. Are you doing it out of bad feelings like anger, resentment or dislike? Then yes, I would advise you not to because a man who is fasting should keep his heart clean just like his stomache.
But if you give it because you think the person's opinion is wrong and there are no side emotions involved then I don't see why its bad.
A lot say that watching TV during the day of Ramadhan can break the fast, how true is this?
*is giving a bad reputation (i mean in the forum) break the fast?
2muchat.
If you are giving a bad rep to defend Islam then I believe you will get good deeds also ;).
And if it's just a matter of your opinion without hate then I think it's still ok to give red ones but try to give more greens for the good members it's better and just ignore others :wave:
A lot say that watching TV during the day of Ramadhan can break the fast, how true is this?
It depends on what you are watching and not on the TV itself because it's just a box.
Delicate
13-10-04, 10:06 AM
Ok here's another question:
I don't listen to music during the day of Ramadhan because they say it breaks my fast. I heard, you're not allowed to listen to music during the night also because it breaks your day fast. How can this be true? Is it anyway?
I don't think what you do at night will affect your day fast. Because the fast is over for that day and what affects it is what is done while fasting. However the night should be spend for what pleases Allah espacially during this holy month instead of listening to the "mizmar" of the Satan.
Is wearing perfume FINE in Ramadhan????????
i always thought and know that it's forbidden
Arabian Princess
13-10-04, 12:53 PM
For men, its fine .. as long as it doesnt go into the throat (u know these really strong smells that you feel you would taste them!!)
women, inside the hosue its fine .. outside the house no.
RareDiamond
13-10-04, 03:35 PM
Ok here's another question:
I don't listen to music during the day of Ramadhan because they say it breaks my fast. I heard, you're not allowed to listen to music during the night also because it breaks your day fast. How can this be true? Is it anyway?
Hearing the music anytime of the day, whether during Ramadhan or before or after, it is HARAAM!.
So whether at night or morning, it is better not to listen to it. We Allah Ye3lam.
ToomuchaT
14-10-04, 04:44 PM
thnx bros and sis for the answers regarding the rep.
but just still waiting for the answer abt music?
thnx.
Arabian Princess
14-10-04, 06:19 PM
toomuchat:
I don't think what you do at night will affect your day fast. Because the fast is over for that day and what affects it is what is done while fasting. However the night should be spend for what pleases Allah espacially during this holy month instead of listening to the "mizmar" of the Satan.
ToomuchaT
14-10-04, 06:28 PM
.. so the answer is it is ok but not preffered to listen to music during the day time of fasting in Ramadhan.
new one to me. :scratch:
thnx.
Arabian Princess
14-10-04, 06:41 PM
No, what Ice Tea explained, is that whatever a person does at night doesnt affect whats in teh morning .. howeevr, you shouldnt listen to music during the day at all.
ToomuchaT
14-10-04, 06:49 PM
.. howeevr, you shouldnt listen to music during the day at all.
.. that makes more sense.. thank u AP.
Blue_Chi
14-10-04, 10:11 PM
.. so the answer is it is ok but not preffered to listen to music during the day time of fasting in Ramadhan.
new one to me. :scratch:
thnx.
Music is a controvertial issue from the very start. I think that it is common sense not to listen to music during the month of Ramadhan just to guarantee that you have your fast accepted.
*Toomuchat is acting extremely sarcastic in this thread. *
ToomuchaT
16-10-04, 06:03 PM
Music is a controvertial issue from the very start. I think that it is common sense not to listen to music during the month of Ramadhan just to guarantee that you have your fast accepted.
*Toomuchat is acting extremely sarcastic in this thread. *
thnx brother bluchi.. i guess that was my technique to pass ideas and information to others..
anyway.. another Q plz.. do we have to keep "neyaah" every day before sleeping that we are fasting tomorrow ? or is it enough to have the first day "neyaah" for the whole month?
thnx:)
btw, bluchi; friends from Nottingham passin regards to u especially S, A and M.
Scorpio27
16-10-04, 06:07 PM
Can I watch on TV? Dramas, Movies, Music Videos, Dances etc ??? Would that hamper my fasting?:(
is it possible to pray "tarawee7" at home?
by the way, whos the "mufti el sabla"? :gap:
Intellective
16-10-04, 08:18 PM
is it possible to pray "tarawee7" at home?
by the way, whos the "mufti el sabla"? :gap:
ICE TEA :gap:
Scorpio27
16-10-04, 08:52 PM
is it possible to pray "tarawee7" at home?
by the way, whos the "mufti el sabla"? :gap:
In our country some people pray "tarawee7" at home with some family members and friends together.
I guess it’s okay.
Scorpio27
16-10-04, 10:27 PM
During the month of Ramadan all sexy pic’s should be removed from Sabla.:D
I'm sorry Hasnain, but the pic isn't suitable for this thread, the month or the religion sabla.
IS NOT IT TRUE? ;)
anyway.. another Q plz.. do we have to keep "neyaah" every day before sleeping that we are fasting tomorrow ? or is it enough to have the first day "neyaah" for the whole month?
thnx:)
As per my knowledge the "neyaah" intention should be present every night before "fajer". The "neyaah" is enough to be by heart without saying words and waking up to take "suhoor" is enough as intention or neyaah to fast the day.
Allah knows best.
ICE TEA :gap:
Who is ICE TEA? :gap:
Can I watch on TV? Dramas, Movies, Music Videos, Dances etc ??? Would that hamper my fasting?:(
The question is do you want to be close to Allah or the Satan.
If your objective is to stop food and drinks only then what is the point of your fasting!
is it possible to pray "tarawee7" at home?
Why not praying it in the mosque with the group?
"Tarawee7" prayer is sunnah, the important is to pray the "Ishaa" prayer in the mosque and then pray "tarawee7" after it.
*NK 105*
17-10-04, 01:22 AM
well if u look at the logic behind watching tv...
watching tv .. unless its an educative program or quran channel or something.. if it is anything other than that, it is said to be a waste of time..
as in u could be doing more productive things rather than watching an hour of tv..
however .. wouldn't that apply to sleeping in the afternoons?
since ramadhan timings at work are earlier.. when we get home.. at least one thing i do is sleep.. :s
I have a question about Qiyam Al-Layl..
I remember once we were arguing about this amongst my friends and i forgot to keep on going asking about it, i remember they were saying that whenever you pray taraweeh and shaf3 witr, you don't have to pray qiyam al-ail as its considered the same?
Is that true, does anyone in here know for sure about this matter?
Another Question,
If you are a student, yet you get your sallery from any source like (father, embassy, ..etc) Do you have to give out zakaa or any sort of money from it, I know its good to do so but is it a must?
DeSerTDesTroYeR
17-10-04, 01:22 PM
I have a question about Qiyam Al-Layl..
I remember once we were arguing about this amongst my friends and i forgot to keep on going asking about it, i remember they were saying that whenever you pray taraweeh and shaf3 witr, you don't have to pray qiyam al-ail as its considered the same?
Is that true, does anyone in here know for sure about this matter?
As far as I know, once you pray "witr" then there is no prayer after it. So, if you want to pray "qiyam al-ail" you shouldnt pray it after "taraweeh".
And about your question, they are two different type of prayers. Unless it was based on the same late night time. Then in such case they could define the same purpose.
Arabian Princess
17-10-04, 01:24 PM
Question 1:
Is that true, does anyone in here know for sure about this matter?
No, they are wrong according to my knowledge .. Witir prayers is "sunna mokada", you have to pray it.
You can add any type of sunna Before alwitir prayer .. If you prayed witir, you have to sleep before praying Qiyam Al lail.
Allahu Allam
I know its good to do so but is it a must?
Its not considered zakaa, if you mean by zakaa "zakat alimal" then no, whatever money you will pay will be considered sadaqaa not zakaa.
In order to be obliged to pay zakaa, the money has to stay in your account for one year! you dont pay zakaa out of your salary because its a money that moves.
but, if you are talking about zakaar al fitir, which is a certain amount you give before eid (Propably your father pays for you that), then its obligiable on everysoul .. and your father has to pay for the whole family.
DeSerTDesTroYeR
17-10-04, 01:25 PM
Another Question,
If you are a student, yet you get your sallery from any source like (father, embassy, ..etc) Do you have to give out zakaa or any sort of money from it, I know its good to do so but is it a must?
As far as I know, you are not obledged for the zakat as long as you arent independent or relaying on your own source of income. So the usual case is that the father is who will be giving the zakat on your behave.
Arabian Princess
17-10-04, 01:51 PM
No DD, even if she is a dependant and she have enough money to pay zakaa for, she has to pay. but I would assume, in her case non of the money completed one year anyway.
yes it didn't complete a year (7awl no), but so it will be obligated if it did.
ok another question, so is it automaticaly considered done (zakat alfitr) if he didn't mean or his intentions wasn't for the entire family?
and what if you were married, the husband would be paying for the entire family right?
thanks Alot DD, and Arby, but so now what is it madh'hab difference in Qiyam Al-Layl, We pray witr before we sleep then we can wake up and pray qiyam or i shouldn't pray witr and pray qiyam then witr?
Arabian Princess
17-10-04, 02:17 PM
I sent you some fatwas in arabic through pm, hope you got them ;)
- regarding if its automaticly considered done .. without intention. Zakat should include intention .. so why would he pay money if he didnt intend it to be for the whole of the family??
and yah, the husband is obliged to pay for the whole family.
Regarding Qiyam al layal .. I dont think there is mathahb differences..
the rule is:
- if you prayed witir after ishaa and didnt pray Qiyam al layal and then thought of praying it, you have to sleep and wake up again. (though some scholars say you can just have a ghafwa and wake up again)
- If you didnt pray witir, then you can pray how much rakaa you want and the last prayer should be witir.
Scorpio27
17-10-04, 02:27 PM
Condition of Fasting
Sanity.
Islam: Should be a Muslim and follow Islamic laws.
For women - they must remain free from Haiz and Nifas for the whole day.
Not being in danger of illness by fasting.
Not being a traveller.
Saum is an act of worship; its main purpose is to abstain from forbidden things so as to earn "the pleasure of Allah by obeying Him."
The most important thing is the Niyyat (Intention). There is no need to utter it. However one must have in mind why one is fasting; that is one must have in mind: "Qurbatan Ilallah"; for the pleasure of Allah.
Niyyat can be made for the whole month together on the eve of the first of Ramadhan or individually on the eve of each day. If you choose to do Niyyat for the whole month together, then if you miss a fast for any reason in between, you will be required to do Niyyat again.
:D:(
Blossom
17-10-04, 03:14 PM
thanks Najah for asking the question about Zakat, one of my house mates just asked about it, and i didn't have the answer. and thanks Princess and DD for asnwering.
Blossom
17-10-04, 03:19 PM
" When the Quran is read, listen to it with attention, and hold your peace: that ye may receive Mercy. " Quran 7:204
you see i like to listen to Quran while, doing my work and daily chores, but i was told that i can not do that according to this Aya!! so are we not suppose to do anything while listening to Quran?
ToomuchaT
18-10-04, 05:33 AM
As per my knowledge the "neyaah" intention should be present every night before "fajer". The "neyaah" is enough to be by heart without saying words and waking up to take "suhoor" is enough as intention or neyaah to fast the day.
Allah knows best.
salaaam brotheryy
thnx for the answer.. appreciated.. accepted fasting insha alah.
another Q plz: say a muslim got his fast broken for sum reason; is it ok for him/her to start eating during the day while others still fasting? or he/her must stop eating even tho his/her fasting was broken?
2muchat
ES
Arabian Princess
18-10-04, 08:52 AM
regarding your Niya question, what we do at home is that we make the niya to fast the whole month wether its 30 days or 29 days .. and as Ice Tea said, taking suhor itself is considered Niyah.
another Q plz: say a muslim got his fast broken for sum reason; is it ok for him/her to start eating during the day while others still fasting? or he/her must stop eating even tho his/her fasting was broken?
What are the reason?? they should be valid ;)
well as I heared .. he should have resepct for the month and doesnt eat .. maybe unless really he needs it if he is sick or so.
i know most break the fast as soon as they hear the "maghrib azaan"...
1- but can anyone provide me with a quranic verse or a hadeeth saying the correct time for "iftaar"?
2- when does that fasting start, with the "fajr azaan", or 15-20 minutes before it?
ToomuchaT
18-10-04, 08:18 PM
What are the reason?? they should be valid ;)
well as I heared .. he should have resepct for the month and doesnt eat .. maybe unless really he needs it if he is sick or so.
of course it has to be a valid reason... otherwise "kafaarah" has to be done.
.. thnx for the answer..
.. another Q plz: abt "so7oor", is there any harm in skipping it? or a muslim must do it?
thnx.:)
Arabian Princess
19-10-04, 09:58 AM
.. another Q plz: abt "so7oor", is there any harm in skipping it? or a muslim must do it?
its a known sunnah from prophet mohammed peace be upon him .. you wont sin if you skip it but who wouldnt want to follow the prophet's sunnah!
at least a cup of water before Imsak is fine ..
i know most break the fast as soon as they hear the "maghrib azaan"...
1- but can anyone provide me with a quranic verse or a hadeeth saying the correct time for "iftaar"?
2- when does that fasting start, with the "fajr azaan", or 15-20 minutes before it?
First of all people who call for the prayer are doing it according to the calender so they won't just call before "maghrib" time. Therefore, people break their fast as soon as they hear the "athan". It's also recommended to break the fast faster and delay the suhoor beccause there is a Hadith saying "ما زالت امتي بخير ما قدموا الفطور واخروا السحور
The reason is for people to catch "maghrib" prayer.
About your questions, you can refer to below verse which provided the start of the fast up to the night:
أُحِلَّ لَكُمْ لَيْلَةَ الصِّيَامِ الرَّفَثُ إِلَى نِسَائِكُمْ هُنَّ لِبَاسٌ لَكُمْ وَأَنْتُمْ لِبَاسٌ لَهُنَّ عَلِمَ اللَّهُ أَنَّكُمْ كُنْتُمْ تَخْتَانُونَ أَنْفُسَكُمْ فَتَابَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَعَفَا عَنْكُمْ فَالْآنَ بَاشِرُوهُنَّ وَابْتَغُوا مَا كَتَبَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ وَكُلُوا وَاشْرَبُوا حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَكُمُ الْخَيْطُ الْأَبْيَضُ مِنَ الْخَيْطِ الْأَسْوَدِ مِنَ الْفَجْرِ ثُمَّ أَتِمُّوا الصِّيَامَ إِلَى اللَّيْلِ وَلَا تُبَاشِرُوهُنَّ وَأَنْتُمْ عَاكِفُونَ فِي الْمَسَاجِدِ تِلْكَ حُدُودُ اللَّهِ فَلَا تَقْرَبُوهَا كَذَلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ آيَاتِهِ لِلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَّقُونَ
Permitted to you, on the night of the fasts, is the approach to your wives. They are your garments and ye are their garments. Allah knoweth what ye used to do secretly among yourselves; but He turned to you and forgave you; so now associate with them, and seek what Allah Hath ordained for you, and eat and drink, until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast Till the night appears; but do not associate with your wives while ye are in retreat in the mosques. Those are Limits (set by) Allah: Approach not nigh thereto. Thus doth Allah make clear His Signs to men: that they may learn self-restraint.
Arabian Princess
19-10-04, 10:21 PM
2- when does that fasting start, with the "fajr azaan", or 15-20 minutes before it?
the 15 mins earlier is called Imsak .. which is when you stop to have anything to eat or drink .. it is to make sure that your fast is valid in case the fajer time was earlier. Ya3ni basicly to be on teh safe side.
ToomuchaT
20-10-04, 06:09 AM
..thnx for the answer.
a Q plz: a fasting person have the habit of "bite nails".. and the worse of it that he/she eats his/her nails. if he/she did it during the day of fasting would that harm his/her fasting??
thnx:)
I have a Question that poped in my mind few days ago when i was in the situation..
I was having a conversation and someone beside me was smoking, I wasn't really paying any attention to the smoke but after i left I wondered if it will break my fast, I know that we are not suppose to smoke during fasting and thinking about it, its not because they sollow anything but they do inhale the smoke, So does anyone in here knows anything about this?
..thnx for the answer.
a Q plz: a fasting person have the habit of "bite nails".. and the worse of it that he/she eats his/her nails. if he/she did it during the day of fasting would that harm his/her fasting??
thnx:)
This person should take suhoor instead of eating his/her nails. And anything enter the stomach (except saliva 'lu3ab') on purpose breaks the fast even if it's a pice of small wood.
And Allah A3lam ;)
I have a Question that poped in my mind few days ago when i was in the situation..
I was having a conversation and someone beside me was smoking, I wasn't really paying any attention to the smoke but after i left I wondered if it will break my fast, I know that we are not suppose to smoke during fasting and thinking about it, its not because they sollow anything but they do inhale the smoke, So does anyone in here knows anything about this?
Check below fatwa by our "mufti":
إذا جلس الشخص بجانب شخص يدخن هل يفطر ذلك أم لا ؟
الجواب :
مما يؤسف له أن الناس الذين اعتادوا التدخين اعتادوا سوء الأخلاق والعياذ بالله ، فهم لا يبالون في الإضرار بغيرهم ، ذلك لأن التدخين كما قلنا ليس مضراً للمدخن وحده فحسب بل هو مضر لمن يجلس حوله . وينبغي للإنسان أن يتفادى الجلوس مع المدخنين في كل وقت من الأوقات لما يسبه ذلك من الضرر ، ثم بجانب ذلك إن كان صائماً يتأكد الأمر بالابتعاد عن المدخنين لئلا يلج إلى حلوقهم شيء من الدخان الذي يخرج من أفواه المدخنين أو الذي ينبعث من السجائر هكذا ، ولكن مع تفادي دخول ذلك في الأنف أو دخوله من طريق الفم فإنه لا يتأثر صيامه إلا أنه ينبغي للعاقل أن يتفادى الجلوس مع هؤلاء في كل أحواله ولا سيما حالة الصوم ، والله تعالى أعلم .
Arabian Princess
20-10-04, 10:32 AM
translation of the post above :
- will someone's fast break is he sits close to a smoking person?
a muslim should avoid sitting next to a smoking person and while fasting he shouldnt just in case the smoke gets into his throat o mouth. if he tried avoiding that his fast is valid even if it happened. (this is what I understod)
So in my situationnnnnnnnnnn, is my fast ok OR not!!!!
You said i should tried to avoid it but i didnt really pay attention till i left the place, the thing is i pass by many who smoke so I should avoid, but how about this situation where i was standing and didnt know about it..
Ice t, where do you get those fatwas from, a site or are u typing them?
thanks alooooot.
Arabian Princess
20-10-04, 10:53 AM
www.mofti.net
u can download a programme where a data base of "suaal ahel ilthikir fatwa" there ..
Najah, I am not a mufti I cant tell .. but if I were you I wouldnt worry so much scince it wasnt intentional.
Najah from your case I can see that you was not paying attention so you didn't try to avoide it by for example moving away from the smoker. I think it's better to ask the mufti about your case, maybe you need to pay back that day.
ToomuchaT
20-10-04, 05:17 PM
.. thnx to both of u.. u really giving a great hand here.. appreciated :)
ToomuchaT
21-10-04, 07:00 AM
.. another Q plz:: is the tarawee7 prayer compolsery for the travellers such us overseas students ?? or just doing the 3isha ala'7er will be enough?
Toomuchat, the tarawee7 prayer is sunnah and not compolsery (like the 5 daily prayers). So people should pray it where ever they go because it's related to fasting.
That is what I think.
Arabian Princess
21-10-04, 09:51 AM
as Ice Tea mentioned, its a sunna .. and as I read once that prophet mohammed himself prayed it only once in his life .. however praying weill get lots of rewards .. so when you can, why not?
however "ان الله لا يكلف نفس إلا وسعها" and if allah accepted that you break your fast while traveling .. so, you can judge if you actually can pray it or not.
ToomuchaT
21-10-04, 06:18 PM
thnx for both for both of u.
another Q plz: u know there are abt 3 or 4 types of the things that come out of the adults, if u plz explain thier effect on the fast if a fasting person got up and found such things on his bed or clothes.
thnx:)
Arabian Princess
21-10-04, 07:53 PM
If a person walk up and he wet his bed, then his fast is valid especially if he didnt do it on purporse.
However, while the day .. the preson has to make sure never to get aroused by anything because such things that comes out breaks his fast.
This fatwa is related to it:
امرأة احتلمت في نهار رمضان وأحست بالرطوبة بعد قيامها من النوم ولكنها لم تبادر إلى الاغتسال فماذا عليها ؟
على أي حال أولاً قبل كل شيء اختلف العلماء في وجوب الغسل على المرأة إن احتلمت والقول الراجح الصحيح ما دل عليه حديث أم سليم رضي الله تعالى عنها وهو أنه يجب عليها ما يجب على الرجل من الغسل ، فقد جاءت إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلّم وقالت له : يا رسول الله برح الخفاء ترى المرأة ما يرى الرجل فهل عليها من غسل ؟ قال : نعم إن رأت الماء . فغطت أم سلمة رضي الله تعالى عنها وجهها وقالت : يا رسول الله أو تحتلم المرأة ؟ فقال : نعم ، تربت يداك بما يشبهها ولدها . ومعنى ذلك أن المرأة عندما ترى ما يرى الرجل أي ترى المباشرة في منامها ، ويؤدي ذلك إلى خروج السائل المنوي منها فعليها في هذه الحالة أن تغتسل كما أن ذلك على الرجل عندما يرى هذا الأمر .
الأمر الثاني هل الجنابة مؤثرة على الصوم أو غير مؤثرة عليه ؟ ذهب أصحابنا وعدد من علماء التابعين وغيرهم إلى أن الجنابة مؤثرة على الصوم ، وذهب جمهور أهل العلم بأن الجنابة لا تؤثر على الصوم . واستدل أصحابنا ومن قال قولهم بما رواه الإمام الربيع في مسنده من طريق أبي هريرة رضي الله عنه ، وأخرجه أيضاً مسلم من طريق أبي هريرة نفسه وأشار إليه البخاري وهو أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلّم قال : من أصبح جنباً أصبح مفطرا . وهذا القول كما ذكرنا قاله جماعة من علماء التابعين .
واستدل الآخرون بما روي من طريق أم سلمة وطريق عائشة رضي الله عنهما أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلّم كان يصبح جنباً ويصوم . وجاء في رواية أخرى أخرجها مسلم وغيره من طريق عائشة رضي الله عنها أن رجلاً جاء إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلّم وقال له : يا رسول الله إني أصبح جنباً وأصوم . فقال : وإني أصبح جنباً وأصوم .
ولكن كيف يُجمع الروايتين ؟ أما الذين قالوا بأن الجنابة لا تؤثر على الصوم فإنهم منهم من قال بأن رواية أبي هريرة منسوخة ، ومنهم من قال غير ذلك . وحقيقة الأمر لا يصار إلى النسخ إلا مع وجود الدليل الذي يقتضي النسخ .
وإنما هناك أمران يرجح بهما الاستدلال بحديث أبي هريرة على الاستدلال حديث عائشة وأم سلمة رضي الله عنهما :
الأمر الأول : أن الجنابة حدث أكبر والصوم عبادة بدنية خالصة ، والعبادات البدنية يشترط لها الطهارة ، منها ما يشترط له الطهارة من الحدثين جميعاً كالصلاة ، ومنها ما يشترط له الطهارة من الحدث الأكبر لأجل أن الحدث الأكبر يمكن أن يتفادى أكثر مما يمكن أن يتفادى الحدث الأصغر فلذلك رُخص في تلبس الإنسان بالحدث الأصغر مع كونه في هذه العبادة وهي عبادة الصيام ، فإن الإنسان لا بد له من أن يتلبس بحدث أصغر ، ولو منع منه لكان ذلك أمراً فيه عسر شديد ، والله تبارك وتعالى يحب التيسير لعباده ( يريد الله بكم اليسر ولا يريد بكم العسر ) ، فلذلك كان الواجب أن يتفادى الحدث الأكبر ، ولذلك لم يصح صيام الحائض لأن الحيض حدث أكبر ، والجنابة حدث أكبر كالحيض فتقاس الجنابة على الحيض ، فالقياس يعزز رواية أبي هريرة .
الأمر الثاني : أن هذا الحديث حديث موجب للحكم ، وهو حديث أبي هريرة ، والحديثان الآخران إنما هما مسقطان للحكم ، والإسقاط إنما هو يتفق مع براءة الأصل ، ووجب الحكم أمر طارئ على البراءة الأصلية ، وعلى هذا فإذا وجد دليل يثبت حكماً ودليل آخر يقتضي عدم وجود ذلك الحكم أي ما يتفق مع البراءة الأصلية فإنه يؤخذ بالدليل المثبت للحكم لأنه ثبت بالدليل ذلك الحكم ورفعه يحتاج إلى دليل آخر ، أما ما دل على ما يتفق مع البراءة الأصلية فإنه مجرد استصحاب للأصل الأول الذي هو قبل أن يطرأ ذلك الحكم .
فبهذا يتبين أن الجنابة إن تمادى الإنسان وأخّر التطهر منها تؤدي إلى بطلان صيامه ، وعلى هذا فهذه المرأة إن تمادت ولم تسارع إلى الاغتسال فوراً فعليها أن تعيد صيام يومها ، والله تعالى أعلم .
ok i have a question.......... during ramadhan ... satans and jins are locked up somewhere right..... so does this mean that all dreams in ramadhan are Ru2ya????????
Intellective
21-10-04, 10:56 PM
Got a question:
1-You are fasting and you had an appointment with a male doctor(if you are a female and vice versa),while examining you he had to touch you.
So,,is your fasting broken and do you have to pay it someday?
ToomuchaT
22-10-04, 06:19 AM
.. thnx for the answes.. appreciated.. i quit now :)
ok i have a question.......... during ramadhan ... satans and jins are locked up somewhere right..... so does this mean that all dreams in ramadhan are Ru2ya????????
على كل حال بالنسبة لتصفيد الشياطين فلاهل العلم كلام في هذا:-
فمنهم من يقول يحتمل أن يكون المراد أن الشياطين لا يخلصون من افتتان المسلمين إلى ما يخلصون إليه في غيره لاشتغالهم بالصيام الذي فيه قمع الشهوات وبقراءة القرآن والذكر
وقيل: المراد بالشياطين بعضهم وهم المردة منهم وصفدت أي شدت بالأصفاد وهي الأغلال وهو بمعنى سلسلت
وقيل:يحتمل أنه على ظاهره وحقيقته وأن ذلك كله علامة للملائكة لدخول الشهر وتعظيم حرمته ولمنع الشياطين من أذى المؤمنين ، ويحتمل أن يكون إشارة إلى كثرة الثواب والعفو وأن الشياطين يقل اغواؤهم فيصيرون كالمصفدين
وبعض أهل العلم قال إنه من الاسلم عدم الخوض في معنى هذا الحديث فإن تصفيد الشياطين من الامور الغيبيه وموقفنا منه التسليم والتصديق.
والله تبارك وتعالى أعلم
thank you Ice Tea and may ALLAH bless you int his holly month......
I have a question:
If a woman has her period during Ramdhan does she has to eat during day time or is it ok if she doesn't eat till iftar time?
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 11:36 AM
She has to have something .. Allah wouldnt excepmt you from fasting if it was alright not to eat ;)
If she wants to lose weight, it's up to her :)
But I mean Islamicaly is it ok? or she has to eat?
Icy, this has nothing to do with loosing weight :p
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 12:00 PM
its not about losing weight and yah Islamicly you have to have something the leats a glass of water ..
She should use that oppertunity as a break from fasting ;)
can you provide a proof that she has to eat or at least drink water? cuz i know some feel bad eating while others are fasting...
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 12:08 PM
I dont have a fatwa ... but in a lecture done at our hosue .. someone asked this and this was the answer.
she doesnt have to eat inftont of others .. she can try to hide and eat!
Hide and eat ;) ok answer taken.... thanks...
X-press
23-10-04, 12:35 PM
I have a question:
If a woman has her period during Ramdhan does she has to eat during day time or is it ok if she doesn't eat till iftar time?
If a woman has her period during Ramadhan, she should stop her fast as it will not be valid even if she continues to do it. She can personally chose not to have anything during the day, but she will not get any credit for that. It is advisable for her to eat and drink, but with discretion for those who fast around her.
The same, if a woman has her period during Ramadhan, she should stop her prayers as they will not be valid even if she continues to do so. It is actually forbidden to pray while in menstruations.
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 12:41 PM
can personally chose not to have anything during the day, but she will not get any credit for that.
as I heard, she HAS to have something to eat .. at least a glass of water!!
X-press
23-10-04, 12:45 PM
1-You are fasting and you had an appointment with a male doctor(if you are a female and vice versa),while examining you he had to touch you.
So,,is your fasting broken and do you have to pay it someday?
Intellective, if it is a normal appointment where you do not have to expose your nudity, then I believe there is nothing wrong to see a male doctor if you are a female.
However, I believe your fast will be broken if before maghrib, in front of a male doctor or any male, you have to remove your clothes which hide your nudity like your breast or your private parts.
To avoid breaking your fast, it is advisable to see a female doctor instead and if you have any gynaecological problems, it is better to wait and be checked after Iftar.
X-press
23-10-04, 12:50 PM
as I heard, she HAS to have something to eat .. at least a glass of water!!
I fully agree with you Arby that she has to eat something and actually that something is not limited to a glass of water or a little piece of bread. She can eat normaly.
I am just saying that if for whatever reason, she doesn't eat during that day (which is not advisable as she is bleeding and can feel weak), she will not be rewarded for it. On the other side, it is not considered sinful if she doesn't eat at all.
I know that a woman in period will not be rewarded for fasting.. I was just asking if she has to eat during the day..:)
and thanks for the answers..
X-press
23-10-04, 01:01 PM
...there are abt 3 or 4 types of the things that come out of the adults, if u plz explain thier effect on the fast if a fasting person got up and found such things on his bed or clothes.
Toomuchat, I presume you are talking about semens.
If a man had a wet dream during the night and found some spot of semens the next morning on his bed or on his clothes, this will not invalidate his fast as it is something out of his control and which he didn't intentionally wanted to happen.
However, something which was not mention above is that he should still perform a complete abulition (Ghusl) from head to toe, as when he has intercourse.
I believe his fast can be invalidate, if he knows that he unintentionally released some sperms or semens, but still choose not to clean himself right away and accordingly.
The same for a woman. If she felt that she had a wet dream at night and sincerely meant to fast the next day, she should still perform the full abulition when she wakes up. It is wrong to stay in state of impurity and even more when fasting.
Persian Queen
23-10-04, 01:05 PM
i have a qustion too
i a slight porton of water passed through the throat by mistake while you twatha( for r praying) does it break the fast ?
X-press
23-10-04, 01:10 PM
I was just asking if she has to eat during the day..:)
Sorry Blood Rose, if I elaborate more my reply above than to your liking.
I feel there is a difference between something 'compulsory' and something 'advisable'. If a woman has her periods, I am not aware that she has to force herself to eat no matter what, but rather that she should eat.
I believe she has the right not to eat if she doesn't feel like it at all; however, she is not allowed not eating if she wants to do it for a fasting purpose or to follow those who fast.
X-press
23-10-04, 01:17 PM
i a slight porton of water passed through the throat by mistake while you twatha( for r praying) does it break the fast ?
Hess, as you said 'by mistake', this means that it was not intentional. In such case, your fast is not broken and you can continue to do it.
However, if someone intentionally (meaning 'purposely') swallows even few drops of water, for the purpose for exemple to relief his thurst, then such action will invalidate immediately his fast.
The same is also applied to anything else which is in liquid or solid form.
If a woman has her period during Ramadhan, she should stop her fast as it will not be valid even if she continues to do it.So women with normal mentral cycles (28 days) will never complete the 30 day duration of fasting during Ramadhan.
They have no control over their cycle and "GOD" made them this way :lost:
amo_l_oman
23-10-04, 01:35 PM
<uff>so what</uff>
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 01:36 PM
she has to pay the fast later on .. well its a gift from God anyway!
Persian Queen
23-10-04, 01:48 PM
ok another qustion
we all know that sometimes when we get fever there will be something in our throat so if it went out and you swallow it by mistake too does it go under the qustion that x-press has answered ?
X-press
23-10-04, 01:53 PM
So women with normal mentral cycles (28 days) will never complete the 30 day duration of fasting during Ramadhan.
They have no control over their cycle and "GOD" made them this way :lost:
jack, most women can not fast the full 30 days of Ramadhan, as they are bond to have their periods somewhere during that month. The days they missed their fast is the same amount of days they bled and which is within 7 days of mensturation.
It is obligatory for any muslim woman to pay any 'missed' day back later during the year and this before the next Ramadhan comes. She should fast the exact amount of days she missed when she had her periods.
As for men, it is obligatory for them to fast the entire Ramadhan, unless there is a sickeness which prevents them to do so.
The brain.
23-10-04, 01:58 PM
she has to pay the fast later on .. well its a gift from God anyway!
What about the husband ' miskeen' he will be fasting during his wife duration , and at nights he will be fasting in the bed.. :weep: .what should he do beside reading quran and being patient !!
So women with normal mentral cycles (28 days) will never complete the 30 day duration of fasting during Ramadhan.
If she is pregnant every year maybe she can.
They have no control over their cycle and "GOD" made them this way :lost:
And that is why she is allowed to break her fast and not pray also.
X-press
23-10-04, 02:00 PM
ok another qustion
we all know that sometimes when we get fever there will be something in our throat so if it went out and you swallow it by mistake too does it go under the qustion that x-press has answered ?
Hess, I am not sure if you are talking about mucous which can comes from the lung when we have a flue and which naturaly comes up sometimes to our throat to be expel?
If that is what you are talking about, then it is something which is already part of your body and you swallowing it back will not affect your fast. The same goes for the saliva in our mouth, which is a natural element within our body and which can be swallowed without worried.
What about the husband ' miskeen' he will be fasting during his wife duration , and at nights he will be fasting in the bed.. :weep: .what should he do beside reading quran and being patient !!
Get a 2nd wife.
Persian Queen
23-10-04, 02:03 PM
thanx x-pess for your answers god bless you and yeah i did mean that .
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 02:04 PM
XP, however if the mucas was out of the throat it has to be taken out and not sollowed again.
.what should he do beside reading quran and being patient !!
its a good thing .. at least he will get more thawab :p
Hess, I am not sure if you are talking about mucous which can comes from the lung when we have a flue and which naturaly comes up sometimes to our throat to be expel?
If that is what you are talking about, then it is something which is already part of your body and you swallowing it back will not affect your fast. The same goes for the saliva in our mouth, which is a natural element within our body and which can be swallowed without worried.
AP I agree with you about saliva but what is called mucous or "na'7ama" in arabic is not allowed to swallow it and I believe it will break the fast.
Persian Queen
23-10-04, 02:06 PM
god iam lost haram alikom i want an explanation to this if it has been swalloed by mistak not as if the person wanted that do that brealk the fast ( ma7aat) i hate using this word ?
X-press
23-10-04, 02:07 PM
If she is pregnant every year maybe she can.
True Icy, the only time a woman can fast the full 30 days of Ramadan is if she has an abnormal long cycle which goes beyond these days, or if (as you said) she is already pregnant.
Many women are afraid to fast while pregnant, as they believe it might have a negative effect on the fetus or the baby, but this worry is not a valid excuse unless the doctor advise otherwise.
If a pregnant woman is in good health and doesn't present any problems, then it is obligatory for her to fast during the holy month. If she doesn't, it will be obligatory for her to pay the 30 days later during the year and this before the next Ramadhan comes.
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 02:10 PM
Hess, if she sollowed it without it entering her mouth its alright .. but if it came out of the throat and went in again she needs to pay that day!
X-press
23-10-04, 02:11 PM
AP I agree with you about saliva but what is called mucous or "na'7ama" in arabic is not allowed to swallow it and I believe it will break the fast.
Arby and Icy, normally it is better to expel any mucous which comes from our throat to our mouth...I agree with that. However, if it happens that someone swallows it back intentinally or unintentionally, it will not at all break his fast.
Persian Queen
23-10-04, 02:11 PM
thanx araby i was alomst lost
Many women are afraid to fast while pregnant, as they believe it might have a negative effect on the fetus or the baby, but this worry is not a valid excuse unless the doctor advise otherwise.
XP, if the woman is pregnant while she is in her first or 2nd month, do you think fasting will affect the fetus?
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 02:13 PM
If a pregnant woman is in good health and doesn't present any problems, then it is obligatory for her to fast during the holy month. If she doesn't, it will be obligatory for her to pay the 30 days later during the year and this before the next Ramadhan comes.
like you said, it needs a valid proof from a good muslim docter .. and if she didnt fast she has to pay the days she broke her fast in and feed a poor person of every day she broke the fast as I remmber.
X-press
23-10-04, 02:16 PM
Hess, if she sollowed it without it entering her mouth its alright .. but if it came out of the throat and went in again she needs to pay that day!
Arby, how can some mucous comes out from our throat and we manage to swallow it without entering our mouth? It is not logical.
I fully disagree that, if any natural element like mucous or saliva comes out from our throat and doesn't come out from our mouth, but is swallowed back, that such action will break our fast!
However, I agree that if any saliva or mucous comes out of our mouth and we intentionally put it back in our mouth (!!!) then and only then it will break our fast.
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 02:17 PM
However, if it happens that someone swallows it back intentinally or unintentionally, it will not at all break his fast
actually it will XP .. I heared this from an Islamic lady who came to give lecture at out home.
Arabian Princess
23-10-04, 02:18 PM
well I dont know about teh intention part .. maybe if it went in "unintentionaly" it wont break the fast but if the person didnt take care of taking it out then it would break the fast
X-press
23-10-04, 02:19 PM
XP, if the woman is pregnant while she is in her first or 2nd month, do you think fasting will affect the fetus?
No I don't think so, unless the woman presents some complication and her doctor advises her not to fast. If her doctor is muslim, it will surely help, as maybe non-muslim practisioners will automatically discourage such restriction anyway!
Arby, how can some mucous comes out from our throat and we manage to swallow it without entering our mouth? It is not logical.
I fully disagree that, if any natural element like mucous or saliva comes out from our throat and doesn't come out from our mouth, but is swallowed back, that such action will break our fast!
However, I agree that if any saliva or mucous comes out of our mouth and we intentionally put it back in our mouth (!!!) then and only then it will break our fast.
XP I think you are confused, how about vomting we know it's coming out of our body and suppose to be thrown out of the mouth, so if it happen that the fasting person swallow it again while it's in the mouth? What do u say?
X-press
23-10-04, 02:22 PM
actually it will XP .. I heared this from an Islamic lady who came to give lecture at out home.
With all my respect for this lady who gave a lecture at your home Arby, there are people who go to the extreme and it doesn't necessarily means that the majority of scholars will agree with their views...
No I don't think so, unless the woman presents some complication and her doctor advises her not to fast. If her doctor is muslim, it will surely help, as maybe non-muslim practisioners will automatically discourage such restriction anyway!
Thanks XP, but I'm not talking about breaking the fast or not but just is it healthy or not for the fetus.
However, if it happens that someone swallows it back intentinally or unintentionally, it will not at all break his fast.
XP, from where you got this from?, cuz I believe if it's done intentinally it will break the fast. I need to look at fatwa from our grand mufti.
X-press
24-10-04, 12:59 AM
Thanks XP, but I'm not talking about breaking the fast or not but just is it healthy or not for the fetus.
To my knowledge Icy, I never came across a quoranic verses, an hadith or fatwa forbidding women to fast while they are pregnant, even if it is the first stage of their pregnancy.
If it was indeed unhealthy for the foetus, I have no doubt that it would be mentioned somewhere. I only support the idea of not fasting during pregnancy if the pregnant woman has an history of complications or if she already presents some medical problems which can worsen if she fasts. This is why we have doctors who can advise us properly if there is any risk or not.
There is no fatwa on this I believe, as well as I never came across a fatwa regarding the swallowing the mucous or saliva...
X-press
24-10-04, 01:08 AM
When it comes to fasting, I believe Islam made it easy for us and only men made it more complicated than it really is.
When it comes to put someting in our body, a fast is broken if someone intentionally injects himself with a substance during the fasting period, or if he intentionally swallows something external which is liquid or solid.
There is not fatwa or hadith supporting the fact that putting cream on the body can break a fast...or many muslims do believe that as it penetrates through the skin, it immediately break someone's fast!
There is no fatwa or hadith supporting that when we shower, we should close our ears and our nose, because some drops of water might go inside these holes...or many muslims do believe that if water penetrates through the ear or in the eyes..ect it will break someone's fast!
There is not fatwa or hadith supporting that when a lady put mascara or khol on her eyelashes, as some of it can go inside her eyes than it breaks her fast...or many muslims do believe that!
I can state more exemples...
Intellective
25-10-04, 06:21 PM
Got a question:
1-You are fasting and you had an appointment with a male doctor(if you are a female and vice versa),while examining you he had to touch you.
So,,is your fasting broken and do you have to pay it someday?
I asked a Question people. :help:
Intel I hope you will change your avatar.
Arabian Princess
26-10-04, 09:07 AM
Inter, wasnt a female docter avaliable?
I cant give you an answer but its not known that if you had to go to a male docter its premissable so I dont think it would break your fast.
I asked a Question people. :help:
I think Exxy already replied your question.. let me check it for you..
Intellective, if it is a normal appointment where you do not have to expose your nudity, then I believe there is nothing wrong to see a male doctor if you are a female.
However, I believe your fast will be broken if before maghrib, in front of a male doctor or any male, you have to remove your clothes which hide your nudity like your breast or your private parts.
To avoid breaking your fast, it is advisable to see a female doctor instead and if you have any gynaecological problems, it is better to wait and be checked after Iftar.
This is her answer...
Salam..
I have a question about Praying in the mosque. Few days ago I was the first to enter the mosque and then people came after me, Anyhow there is a lady who usually pray in the far right, at the first raw. Then another lady was pushing me to stand and pray there and i was so confused cause i always never care as where i'm praying, then she told me that the first one to enter the mosque gets alot of rewards by parying on the far right side of the first row? Is this correct or, cause i asked one girl and she said she never heard of it before?
Najah, that is right and you can refer to below Hadith but nothing stated about "far right". In general the prayer raws should be straight, no gaps between a person and another left, not praying in another new raw while the front one not complete, not standing in a raw alone (at least should be two persons) and finally when starting a new raw it should be from the middle behind the "Imam" excatly.
أبو عبيدة عن جابر بن زيد عن أبي هريرة قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : (( لو يعلم الناس ما في الصف(4) الأول ثم لم يجدوا إلا أن يتساهموا عليه لتساهموا ولو يعلمون ما في التهجير لاستبقوا إليه ولو يعلمون ما في العتمة والصبح لأتوهما ولو حبوا )).
(4) ما في النداء والصف .
X-press
27-10-04, 01:42 AM
.... she told me that the first one to enter the mosque gets alot of rewards by parying on the far right side of the first row? Is this correct or, cause i asked one girl and she said she never heard of it before?
Najah, as I do not read arabic, I do not understand the hadith posted by Icy, but it is the first time for me to hear about the 'far right' position being more rewarding if we are the first to stand there.
However, talking about how we should place ourselves for prayers, no matter the location where we stand (meaning mosque, house, room,...), it is true that we should stand in full raw standing from the right and next to the lady already standing in prayer and this without leaving any gap in between.
From my readings, even the angels in Jennah are praying that way in a raw and next to each other. The gap between the women praying, and even between the men praying, shouldn't be wide as the islamic resources tell us that it gives a chance for Shaitan to pass in between (!).
So Najah, when you enter a mosque and want to pray, you shouldn't just stand wherever you want, but next to any lady already standing in a raw. Usually raws starts from right to left and this starting in the front of the room and going to the back as more people come in to pray.
A lady can kindly ask you to take the proper position if she sees that you are isolate from the group. However, I believe it is unproper to simply push you to show you were to stand or to push you to take your place.
This is to my knowledge :blush:
Intellective
27-10-04, 01:53 AM
Intellective, if it is a normal appointment where you do not have to expose your nudity, then I believe there is nothing wrong to see a male doctor if you are a female.
However, I believe your fast will be broken if before maghrib, in front of a male doctor or any male, you have to remove your clothes which hide your nudity like your breast or your private parts.
To avoid breaking your fast, it is advisable to see a female doctor instead and if you have any gynaecological problems, it is better to wait and be checked after Iftar.
Thanx Exy..
But what if you have no choice...either you have to be examine or stay in pain for more than 7 hrs waiting to break your fast.
Which is said not to force yourself fasting while you are sick.
X-press
27-10-04, 01:53 AM
I have a question :D:
A lady is fasting and is expecting to get her periods anytime during that day. If there is no sign of her menstruations the entire day, but they just start few minutes (expl: 5 to 10 minutes) before the break of her fast (maghrib):
~ Does she has to repay her entire day, even if she makes sure that she doesn't eat for the last 5 to 10 minutes left?
{Ps: I understand that she has to repay her day even if it is 2 min before maghrib, but logically speaking, knowing that God is All Merciful and All Understanding, I am wandering if He will still not accept that full day as any other fasting day...especially if she doesn't eat until the call for prayer?}
Waiting for your answers.
.
Intellective
27-10-04, 01:56 AM
Inter, wasnt a female docter avaliable?
I cant give you an answer but its not known that if you had to go to a male docter its premissable so I dont think it would break your fast.
I dont know really..coz i was transfered to a male doctor and i wasnt in a state to ask, i just wanted to be treated..
X-press
27-10-04, 02:04 AM
But what if you have no choice...either you have to be examine or stay in pain for more than 7 hrs waiting to break your fast.
Intel, to my knowledge, if you have no other choice but to be checked by a male doctor and this check up requires you to show your nudity (meaning private parts), then you will have to pay your day back.
Again, if it is just a simple consultation, where you do not have to remove all your clothes or if your nudity is covered by a medical gown... and if the male doctor doesn't have to touch your breast or your private parts, then I don't think your fast will be broken.
I am however sure that they are some people or scholars who are extremists and who will disagreed for a fasting women to be touched or partially examined by a male whatsoever, even if it is a doctor...
Intellective
27-10-04, 02:12 AM
Intel, to my knowledge, if you have no other choice but to be checked by a male doctor and this check up requires you to show your nudity (meaning private parts), then you will have to pay your day back.
Again, if it is just a simple consultation, where you do not have to remove all your clothes or if your nudity is covered by a medical gown... and if the male doctor doesn't have to touch your breast or your private parts, then I don't think your fast will be broken.
I am however sure that they are some people or scholars who are extremists and who will disagreed for a fasting women to be touched or partially examined by a male whatsoever, even if it is a doctor...
Either way i'll have to pay it back
Thanx for answering :)
Jazaka ALLAH lkheir
Cetacea
28-10-04, 04:52 AM
If you are a Muslim who lives in the Arctic Circle and Ramadhan falls in the summer, what do you do? Since you get daylight 24 hours a day, should you starve to death, move down South, or try a different religion? What did the Quran say about the Arctic Circle?
Interesting question ..
Will try to look for something!
Arabian Princess
28-10-04, 10:50 AM
Catacea, there is not article about this in the Quran .. I would try to find a fatwa or something about this coz its an intresting question.
This is what I found related to cetacea question:
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Question :
Due to the inclination of the earth's axis of rotation, regions nearest to one pole experience continuous day for some months, for example, the trading city of Tromso (about 50000 inhabitants) in northern Norway (in which 0.4% of its population comes from islamic countries) where the sun is visible continuously from late May to late July, while regions nearest to the other pole experience continuous night during that same period. How do muslims living in Tromso do for maghrib and esha salaat as night never falls during these few monthes and also given that the month of Ramadhan falls during this period, how can they fast?.
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
Fatwa no. 2769 was issued by the Council of Senior Scholars and the Standing Committee concerning an issue similar to the one you are asking about. This is the text of the question and answer:
Praise be to Allaah alone and blessings and peace be upon the one after whom there will be no Prophet.
The Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas has read the question that has been sent to the General Secretary by the Secretary the Union of Muslim Students in Holland, and which has been passed to them by the Secretary of the Council of Senior Scholars. The text of the question is as follows:
We hope that you can provide us with a fatwa concerning the way of determining the times of Maghrib, Isha’ and Fajr prayer, and also the first day of Ramadaan and the first day of Eid al-Fitr. That is because the way the sun rises and sets in the countries of Northern Europe that are close to the North Pole is different from the way it rises and sets in the eastern Muslim countries. The reason for that has to do with the timing of the end of the red and white twilight. It may be noted that in summer the white twilight lasts almost the whole night, so it is difficult to determine the time of ‘Isha’ and the onset of the dawn.
They replied:
The Council of Senior Scholars in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia issued a statement on the determining of the times of prayer, determining the start of dawn each day, and the end of the dawn in Ramadan, in countries such as yours. This is what it said:
After studying, researching and discussing the matter, the Council decided the following:
Whoever resides in a country where the night can be distinguished from the day by the onset of dawn and the setting of the sun, but the day is extremely long in the summer and extremely short in the winter, is obliged to perform the five daily prayers at the times known in sharee’ah. That is because of the general meaning of the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):
“Perform As‑Salaat (Iqamaat‑as‑Salaat) from mid‑day till the darkness of the night (i.e. the Zuhr, ‘Asr, Maghrib, and ‘Ishaa’ prayers), and recite the Qur’aan in the early dawn (i.e. the — Fajr morning prayer). Verily, the recitation of the Qur’aan in the early dawn (i.e. the morning — Fajr prayer) is ever witnessed (attended by the angels in charge of mankind of the day and the night)”
[al-Isra’ 17:78]
“Verily, As‑Salaah (the prayer) is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours”
[al-Nisa’ 4:103]
And because it was proven from Buraydah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that a man asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about the times of the prayers, and he said to him: “Pray with us for these two” meaning two days. When the sun passed its zenith, he told Bilaal to give the adhaan, then he told him to give the iqaamah for Zuhr. Then he told him to give the iqaamah for ‘Asr when the sun was still high and clear white. Then he told him to give the iqaamah for Maghrib when the sun had set. Then he told him to give the iqaamah for ‘Isha’ when the red afterglow (twilight) had disappeared. Then he told him to give the iqaamah for Fajr when the dawn had appeared. Then on the second day, he told him to delay Zuhr until the extreme heat had passed and he did so. He prayed ‘Asr when the sun was high, delaying it beyond the time he had previously performed it. He prayed Maghrib before the twilight had vanished; he prayed ‘Isha’ when a third of the night had passed; and he prayed Fajr when there was clear daylight. Then he said: “Where is the man who was asking about the time of prayer?” The man said, “Here I am, O Messenger of Allaah.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The time for your prayer is within the limits of what you have seen.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim)
It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The time for Zuhr is from when the sun has passed its zenith and a man’s shadow is equal in length to his height, until the time for ‘Asr comes. The time for ‘Asr lasts until the sun turns yellow. The time for Maghrib lasts until the twilight has faded. The time for ‘Isha’ lasts until midnight. The time for Subh (Fajr) prayer lasts from the beginning of the pre-dawn so long as the sun has not yet started to rise. When the sun starts to rise then stop praying, for it rises between the two horns of the Shaytaan.”
Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh.
And there are other ahaadeeth which have been narrated concerning the definition of the times of the five daily prayers through the words and actions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). It makes no difference whether the night and day are long or short, so long as the times of the prayers can be distinguished by the signs which were identified by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
This is with regard to the timings of the prayers. With regard to the timings of their fast in Ramadaan, those who are accountable should refrain from food, drink and everything else that invalidates the fast each day of Ramadaan, from the time of dawn until sunset in their countries, so long as the night can be distinguished from the day, and when day and night together add up to twenty-four hours. It is permissible for them to eat, drink, have intercourse, etc during the night only, even if it is short. The sharee’ah of Islam is universal and applies to all people in all countries. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“and eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night), then complete your Sawm (fast) till the nightfall”
[al-Baqarah 2:187]
Whoever is unable to complete the fast because the day is so long, or who knows from experience or from the advice of a competent. trustworthy doctor, or thinks it most likely that fasting will lead to his death or make him severely ill, or will make his sickness worse or impede his recovery, may break his fast and make up the days that he misses in a month when he can make them up. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“So whoever of you sights (the crescent on the first night of) the month (of Ramadan i.e. is present at his home), he must observe Sawm (fasts) that month, and whoever is ill or on a journey, the same number [of days which one did not observe Sawm (fasts) must be made up] from other days”
[al-Baqarah 2:185]
“Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope”
[al-Baqarah 2:286]
“Allaah does not want to place you in difficulty”
[al-Maa'idah 5:6]
Secondly:
Whoever lives in a land in which the sun does not set during the summer and does not rise during the winter, or who lives in a land in which the day lasts for six months and the night lasts for six months, for example, has to perform the five daily prayers in each twenty-four hour period. They should estimate their times based on the nearest country in which the times of the five daily prayers can be distinguished from one another, because it was proven in the hadeeth of the Isra’ and Mi’raaj (Prophet’s Night Journey and Ascent into Heaven) that Allaah enjoined on this ummah fifty prayers each day and night, then the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kept asking his Lord to reduce it until He said, “O Muhammad, they are five prayers each day and night, and for each prayer will be the reward of ten, that is fifty prayers…”
And it was proven in the hadeeth of Talhah ibn ‘Ubayd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: A man from Najd with unkempt hair came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and we heard his loud voice but could not understand what he was saying, till he came near and then we came to know that he was asking about Islam. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “(You have to offer) five prayers each day and night.” The man asked, “Do I have to do anything else?” The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “No, unless you want to offer voluntary (naafil) prayers”…
And it was proven in the hadeeth of Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: We were forbidden to ask the Messenger of Allaah (S) (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about anything, so we used to like it when an intelligent man from among the desert people came and asked him a question in our hearing. A man from among the desert people came and said, “O Muhammad, your messenger came to us and said that you claim that Allaah sent you.” He said, “He spoke the truth.” … The man said, “And your messenger claimed that we have to offer five prayers each day and night.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “He spoke the truth.” The man said, “By the One Who sent you, has Allaah enjoined that upon you?” He said, “Yes.” …
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It was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told his companions about the Dajjaal (antichrist). He was asked how long he would stay on earth, and he said, “Forty days, one day like a year, one day like a month, one day like a week and the rest like your days.” It was said, “O Messenger of Allaah, the day which is like a year, will the prayers of one day be sufficient for us then?” He said, “No, estimate them.” So the day which will be like a year is not regarded as one day in which only five prayers will be sufficient, rather we are obliged to offer five prayers in each twenty-four hour period. He commanded them to offer the prayers at intervals as on a regular day.
So the Muslims in the country mentioned in the question have to define the times of prayer in that land, basing those times on the closest country in which the night and day can be distinguished from one another and the times of the five daily prayers are known according to the signs described in sharee’ah, within each twenty-four hour period.
Similarly they also have to fast Ramadaan. They can set the time for their fast and determine the beginning and end of Ramadaan and the times of starting and breaking the fast each day by the dawn and sunset each day in the closest country in which night can be distinguished from day. The total period must add up to twenty-four hours, because of the hadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about the Dajjaal mentioned above, in which he told his companions how to determine the times of the five daily prayers. There is no difference in this regard between fasting and prayer.
And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions.
Al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Ifta’.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 6/130-136 (www.islam-qa.com)
Cetacea
28-10-04, 11:13 AM
Catacea, there is not article about this in the Quran .. I would try to find a fatwa or something about this coz its an intresting question.
Thanks. I guess I can do a search too, but I'm too lazy to do my homework. ;)
"Was not the earth of Allah spacious enough for you to move yourselves away (From evil)?" Such men will find their abode in Hell,- What an evil refuge! -
Tea, are you implying that the area north of the Arctic Circle is hell?? What about the Canadians and Swedes who live there? Are they all evil? I've never been up there in the summer, but I heard that you can read newspaper under natural light at midnight. If so you can definitely distinguish a white thread from a black thread pretty much 24 hours a day.
Tea, are you implying that the area north of the Arctic Circle is hell??
No the hell is the opposite of heaven in the hereafter :)
X-press
31-10-04, 10:36 AM
No one answered my question above, which I will repeat here:
I have a question ::D
A lady is fasting and is expecting to get her periods anytime during that day. If there is no sign of her menstruations the entire day, but they just start few minutes (expl: 5 to 10 minutes) before the break of her fast (maghrib):
~ Does she has to repay her entire day, even if she makes sure that she doesn't eat for the last 5 to 10 minutes left?
{Ps: I understand that she has to repay her day even if it is 2 min before maghrib, but logically speaking, knowing that God is All Merciful and All Understanding, I am wandering if He will still not accept that full day as any other fasting day...especially if she doesn't eat until the call for prayer?}
Waiting for your answers.
X-press
31-10-04, 10:42 AM
My Question #2 is:
I read that during Ramadhan some good deeds can multiplied by 7, by 70 and can go as far as being multiplied by 700!
Besides most probably 'feeding the poor' and 'giving charity', which other deeds do you think could be multiplied by 700 during the holy month? :lost:
XP, as you said the fast is broken. And the day should be repaied. Yes Allah is merciful no doubt about that. But a muslim is always requested to be in the safe side and not depend on his/her own desires espacially when it comes to one of the pillers of Islam.
My Question #2 is:
I read that during Ramadhan some good deeds can multiplied by 7, by 70 and can go as far as being multiplied by 700!
Besides most probably 'feeding the poor' and 'giving charity', which other deeds do you think could be multiplied by 700 during the holy month? :lost:
Yes the rewards in this holy months are very high, that is why muslims should take this chance and collect many good deeds as possible. According to my knowledge that every "fareedha" (e.g daily prayers) equal to like 70, so it means every prayer is like 70 prayes and sunnah is like "fareedha".
Things recommended:
- Reading the Quran cuz the good deeds multiplied in this month.
- Inviting people for Iftar
- Night prayers
*NK 105*
31-10-04, 09:44 PM
ok question.. some1 gets her period for more than 10 days, and it continues during ramadhan.. does she wash and start fasting the next day? or just not fast and keep eating?
Arabian Princess
31-10-04, 11:26 PM
as I know .. what takes longer than 10 days (and 1 more day espcially if she is not used to this) isnt a period but "isti7atha" (dont know whats called in english but its considered other kind of discharge)
aso yah, the woman has to wash her hair and have niya to fast .. and start fasting.
Bimzoori
01-11-04, 03:08 AM
Salam,
Question
A woman gets her period the first days of Ramadhan and the last few days.. lets say first 5 days then last 2 days.. does she have to make the days up continuously (ie 7 days non stop) or can she do the 5 days take a break then do the two days?!
Jazakum Allah Khair..
Bimzoori
17-11-05, 03:11 AM
Salam,
I asked this question last year, but didnt get the answer, neither could I find the answer myself, so I would like to raise the question again (with a small addition to it this time)..
Question
A woman gets her period the first days of Ramadhan and the last few days.. lets say first 5 days then last 2 days.. Furthermore, she didnt fast a few days during the month due to illness (lets say 6 days)..
does she have to make the days up continuously? (ie 7 days + 6 days of illness = 13 days non stop) or can she fast the 5 days take a break then fast the two days take a break then fast the 6 days?!
Jazakum Allah Khair..
Libellula
17-11-05, 04:17 AM
I'm not too sure about this, so someone will have to clarify, but I was told that in the Ibadhi sect usually if a woman gets her period just once during the month of Ramadhan and let's say it lasts 7 days, when she comes to fasting them after Ramadhan she has to do them continuously after each other. In the Sunni sect, however, she doesn't have to do them all after the other and can take breaks in between.
I'm guessing that based on that, for your question it'd be 5 days after each other, then maybe she can take a break, then 6 days due to illness, then another break, then the last 2 days because of her period....?
I'm guessing that based on that, for your question it'd be 5 days after each other, then maybe she can take a break, then 6 days due to illness, then another break, then the last 2 days because of her period....?
Aren't you just suppose to add all the days where you did not fast due to your period ? In this case , 7 days :hmm:
I think it is permissible that you re-fast 7 days (menstruations),then take a break, then fast the 6 days due to illness. It makes sense that you catogarise that causes together and fast them continuously according to it.
Salam,
I asked this question last year, but didnt get the answer, neither could I find the answer myself, so I would like to raise the question again (with a small addition to it this time)..
Question
A woman gets her period the first days of Ramadhan and the last few days.. lets say first 5 days then last 2 days.. Furthermore, she didnt fast a few days during the month due to illness (lets say 6 days)..
does she have to make the days up continuously? (ie 7 days + 6 days of illness = 13 days non stop) or can she fast the 5 days take a break then fast the two days take a break then fast the 6 days?!
Jazakum Allah Khair..
Below fatwa by Sheikh Said Al-Qanoobi is related to your questions, and from the fatwa the scholars have different say about wheather they pay back days should be done countinously or not. And the better is to make them countinously according to the fatwa.
قد يَكون أَفطرَ في أوَّل رمضان أو في وسطه أو في آخِره، فهل في القضاء يَلْزمُه أن يَصومَ ما أَفطرَه مُتَفَرِّقا أن يَصومَه مُتتابِعا ؟
ج: مسألةُ تَتَابُعِ القضاءِ مُختلَفٌ فيها بيْن أهلِ العلم منذ زمنٍ بعيد:
مِن العلماء مَن ذهب إلى وجوبِ التَّتَابعِ في القضاءِ إلا مَنْ شَقَّ عليه ولَم يَسْتَطِع على ذلك.
وبعضُ العلماء ذهب إلى أنه يَجُوز في القضاء الفَصْل .. يَجُوز لِلإنسان أن يصومَ يوما وأن يُفطِرَ يوما وهكذا .. المهم أن يُكْمِلَ العِدَّة التي عليه ولا ينظر إلى التتابع وإلى عدمه، فإذا كان إنسانٌ قد أَفطَرَ ستّة أيام أو سبعة أيام المهم أن يَقضِي تلك الأيام سواء أتى بِها متتابِعة أو أنه أتى بِبعضِها ثُم أَفطَر ثُم أتى بِالبقيةِ الباقية وهكذا .. الحاصل المهم أن يُحْصِي العِدَّة.
وقد اسْتَدَلَّ كلّ فريقٍ بِأدِلّة، وليس هنالك دليلٌ واضِح في هذه القضية، إذ إنَّ كلّ ما اسْتَدَل بِه مَنْ قال بِوجوبِ التَّتَابع وبعدم وجوبِ ذلك مِن الحديث المروي عن النبي لا يَثْبُتُ عنه صلوات الله وسلامه عليه على التحقيق، وبيان ذلك يَتَّسِع بِه المقال.
واستدَلَّ القائلون بِالتَّتَابع-أيضا-بِقراءةٍ شَاذَّةٍ تُنْسَبُ إلى السيدةِ عائشة-رضي الله تعالى عنها-وقد نُسِبَتْ إلى غيرِها، ولكن الاحتِكام بِالقراءاتِ الشاذَّة لَنَا فيه نَظَرٌ لا دَاعِي لِذِكْرِه الآن، ثم إنَّ تلك القراءةَ على تَقْدِيرِهَا قد نُسخَتْ وما دامتْ منسوخة فإنّ الأصلَ أنَّ الحكمَ يُنْسَخُ بِِنَسْخِ اللَّفْظ إلا إذا دَلَّ دليلٌ على بقاءِ الحكم بعدَ نَسْخِ الأصلِ، وليس لدينا ذلك الدليلُ في هذه القضية.
وقَاسُوا ذلك-أيضا-على صيامِ شهرِ رمضان المبارَك فإنَّه مُتَتَابِع، وهذا القياس فيه ما فيه كما لا يَخْفى، ذلك أنّ رمضان يَجِب التتابُع فيه لا لأجْلِ وجوبِ التتابُع نفسِه ولكن لأنَّ رمضان يَجِب صيامُه مِنْ أوَّلِه إلى آخِرِه إلا لِعذرٍ شرعي كما هو معلوم .. ذلك لأمرٍ آخَر وليس لأجْلِ التَّتَابع ذَاتِه، فإذن هذا القياس فيه ما فيه.
و-على كل حال-لاشَكَّ أنَّ الإنسان الأوْلى لَه أن يُخْرِج نفسَه مِن الخلافِ في هذه القضية، ولكن لو جاءنا شخصٌ وقال بِأنَّه قَضَى ما عليه مِنْ شهرِ رمضان ولكنَّه لَم يُتَابِع بَيْن القضاء سَوَاء أَفطَرَ بعضَ الأيام في أوَّلِ الشهر والبعض الآخَر في وَسَطِه أو في نِهايتِه أو ما شابه ذلك أو أنه أَفْطَرَهَا في وَقْتٍ واحِد فإننا نقول له: " على الصحيح عندنا إنَّ صيامَك صحيح " ولكن الخروج مِن الخلاف-كما قلتُ-في هذه المسألةِ حسنٌ جِدا، ثم إنَّ في ذلك مُبَادَرَة لِفِعْلِ الخيْر، والإنسان لا يَدرِي متى يَأتِيه الموت، فما مِن لَحظةٍ مِنْ لحظاتِ حياتِه إلا ويُمْكِن أن يُفَاجِئَه الموت، فإذا بادَرَ بِالإتيانِ بِهذه الأيام فإنَّه قد أدَّى ما عليهِ بِحمدِ الله-تبارك وتعالى-وإن كنّا لا نستطِيع أن نُضَيِّق عليه، لأنَّنَا لو قلنا بِوجوبِ الفورية لَقلنا: " إنّ الإنسان يَجِب عليه أن يَصوم في اليوم الثاني مِن شهرِ شوال وأن يَقْضِيَ ما عليه إلا إذا كان هنالك عذرٌ يَمْنَعُهُ مِن الصيام أو يُبِيحُ له-على أقلِّ تقدير-الإفطار ".
فإذن خلاصةُ ما في المسألةِ: العلماءُ اختلَفوا في هذه المسألةِ على ثلاثةِ أقوال:
1-منهم مَن قال: يَجب التتابع وهو شرطٌ في ذلك، فمَن كانت عليه-مثلا-خمسةُ أيام وصام يوميْن ثُمَّ أَفطَر لِغيْرِ عذرٍ شرعي يُبِيحُ له ذلك فإنَّه يُطالَبُ بِإعادةِ الخمسةِ الأيَّام معًا.
2-ومنهم مَن قال: هو واجب ولكنه ليس بِشرْط، فإذا أَفطَر يَكون آثِما ولكن صيامُه الماضي صحيح، فعليه في هذا المثال أن يَأتِي بِالثلاثة الباقية وليس عليه أن يُعِيدَ اليوميْن الماضييْن ولكنه آثِم يَجِب عليه أن يَتوب إلى الله.
3-وبعضُ العلماء ذهب إلى أنه لا يُحْكَم بِإثْمِه وليس عليه أن يُعِيدَ ما مضى مِن الأيام بل عليه أن يَأتِي بِالبقيةِ الباقية ولكنه مع ذلك يَسْتَحْسِنُون له أن يُتابِع بيْن الأيام خُرُوجا مِن عُهْدَةِ الخلاف و-أيضا-لأنّ في ذلك مبادَرة إلى الخيْر ومسارَعة إليه وفي ذلك مِنَ الفضْل ما لا يَخْفَى.
فنحن نَحُثُّ الناس على التَّتَابُع خروجا مِن عهدةِ الخلاف ومع ذلك لا نَقْوَى على القولِ بِإبْطَالِ صِيَامِهِم الماضي أن لَوْ قَضَوا على سبيلِ التفريق لأننا لا نَمْلِكُ الدليلَ الذي يَدُلّ على وجوبِ التَّتَابُع في ذلك، ثُم إنّ هذا في مَن كان قادِرا أما مَن كان لا يَقْدِر على ذلك أو يَشُقُّ عليه فلا بأس عليه بِمشيئة الله ولا حرج، والله-تبارك وتعالى-أعلم
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