Alot of friends and family use wasta to get alot of things done in life over here.. in some cases it's because the system is just too slow.. :bang: , and in others they just want to "cut in the queue".. do u have wasta in certain things? have u used ur "connections" to influence something or other?
and what do u think about wasta in general.. are u for it or against it?

Ok i am with wasta if for example u got a high-quality degree and experience, your looking for a job and u did not find one that suits u unless u go through by was6a then i agree!

BUT if u suck and have no degree or have a crappy degree that doesn't even get u to kindergardon then no i disagree with the was6a becuz others deserve it more than u do!

So am with it and not depending on the situation.

But don't u think that if u couldn't get it the normal way, then u are cheating urself by getting wasta.. ?
or duz it depend on the situation..

[QUOTE=IRONY]Ok i am with wasta if for example u got a high-quality degree and experience, your looking for a job and u did not find one that suits u unless u go through by was6a then i agree!
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The situation arises because unqualifed people get the job because of wasta
I'm against it. Wasta is the reason why we are so behind :shoot:

very very very well said CrazyRed, there are some people who just never work hard and get things right on their table and thats very very unfair. When things start unfairly we end up far behind cause rules are broken and organization is also broken!!!

Although i hate it, i tried many times to ask people to find someone to do me things, but i ALWAYS failed to get anything done!

If someone else is getting an injustice then I am against it. Otheriwse I suppose its helpful.

I never used this method before, and I hope I won't ever need it.

If you think about it, there are many poor people who don't have jobs because of it// eventhough some of them have qualifications. So, this method I guess will increase the poors number in our contries and that's why I'm against it.


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I'm not with Wasta at all, but some times u r forced to use it when seeing other ppl use their power to attain some thing they don't deserve & u might deserve it more than them!! Isn't strange that u deserve some thing but u have to take it by WASTA!! :duh: but this is how things go on in town sadly!
Al7amdulilah I have been forced in 2 situation to use it, but I prefered to waite & see how justice will work first & save it as a last choice. Thanx God I didn't need it in any :)

though I dont agree with wasta .. but we have to face it its in our blood.
we live in a tribal society .. everyone knows people here and there and they think life could be easier if they get thier help. infact, sometimes people use wasta when they actually dont need it, I mean they could get through the same normal way .. but they go for wasta to feel special even between themselves!!

I think its very hard to get rid of wasta .. we try to be systemtic, we are all aginst it (ofcourse coz it will harm us one day if somone else got a wasta aginst us), but its within our social system ..

AP, allow me to add a point to your post.

I agree that it's "hard" to get rid of such behaviour now that it's widely spread amongst us... But if we expanded the awareness between the people we live with that this is not a good way to get things, then, I think people will start to realize it's a wrongdoing. We just need to believe that we don't need it. Plus, Allah, the almighty, is the one whom we should all depend on. (N twkl 3leeh)

I think that wasta is the worst thing that has happened to Oman, and I am totally completely absolutely AGAINST it - I feel like its such an unjust way to get what you want.... I remember that when my mother called the Ministry of Education and asked them to give me a test or something so that I could skip a grade, they said that I needed a was6a from someone first...!! WTF??? What does my family have to do with how smart I am? A well to do, highly esteemed family can birth idiots just as much as a lower class family can have children who may go on to win Nobel Prizes or whatever - so that was a totally disgusting thing that person said to my mom, and I was very pleased with her when she slammed the phone on his face - name dropping is easy, there's no need to resort to it.

Nepotism I think is the worst type of was6a, especially in the workplace, because people who are really underqualified get jobs and such just because their daddy or uncle or whatever runs the business, and then when the company folds, they wonder where they went wrong... Hmmm, any suggestions...?

i really hate this ,,, and as Res Zone said ,,, its because of this ppls who dont have the right to have it ,,, where others who have the right high qulaification some times dont have the chance :fire:

i really dont use it ,,, and i hope inshallah in future not to use it in any way ,,,

and i usully say to my self ,,,, if Allah wana me to take anything ,,, i will have it either ppls agree or they dont ,,, and i Allah didnt wana me to have something i will never have it what ever i do :)

I dont like people that use wasta not because they need it, but because they can get it.. i believe u should only use wasta if thing needed to be done urgently (with this system nothing is done fast enough) or because they earned getting a specific job, and for some reason or other couldn't get it. The people that piss me off are those that use wasta just because their daddies happen to be people of "high society" and so they get whatever they want, whenever they want it, wether they deserve it or not.

i think tht the country needs to go think in a frame of "it doesn't matter WHO you are, or who u know.. if u deserve it, u get it" Where the better qualified person gets the job, and so forth.

i believe u should only use wasta if thing needed to be done urgently (with this system nothing is done fast enough) or because they earned getting a specific job, and for some reason or other couldn't get it.

but teh fact is that you are using wasta!!
SOme people will find it unjust that you finish what you need in 10 min when they have to wait for half an hour to finish thiers.!

well if everyone else is using wasta to get a job, that it would be hard for you to get one without it. Survival in a corrupt system.

I know many Omani people who got good jobs *including my bro* at UAE through this wasta thingy. If they haven’t used it then bla bla bla

are we all talk about "wasta" job wise, or in every aspect in life? cause i have to admit i use it a lot when i need to get an appointment in hospital, or get something done quickly in a police station ...etc. we all do it, its in us!! cause if we don't use we will get no where.
how can we stop this?
maybe the authorities, or jobe providers should stop accepting ppl according to "wasta"

to stop it we need strict monitoring of what happens around the work area
the only thing i see wasta is doing in oman is it's killing it's our future(you get a hard working student with good grades not being able to find a job and then you got a kid with no degree but his father has connections having a job you desrve, or that some one less qualified then yourself is getting the job because you are from a different tribe)

Crazy I totally agree with you .. but from experience .. I noticed that those who have no skills whatsoever and get wasta to get a job .. will stay where they are when they are there in the real life .. while those who work hard would get thier compensation .. even if in the long run ;)

at the end, everything is Rizq!

to stop it we need strict monitoring of what happens around the work area
the only thing i see wasta is doing in oman is it's killing it's our future(you get a hard working student with good grades not being able to find a job and then you got a kid with no degree but his father has connections having a job you desrve, or that some one less qualified then yourself is getting the job because you are from a different tribe)

yes i agree with that too.. and i mean wasta in general.. the government should stop allowing wasta at all. But if it was like that then nobody would get ANY work done.. it would have to be balanced.. no more wasta and faster action being taken by the governments... which is a long shot that i dont think will be happening any time soon!! which is the problem with this country.

[QUOTE=IRONY]Ok i am with wasta if for example u got a high-quality degree and experience, your looking for a job and u did not find one that suits u unless u go through by was6a then i agree!
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The situation arises because unqualifed people get the job because of wasta
I'm against it. Wasta is the reason why we are so behind :shoot:

Crazy red if u see what i had written i said IF THE PERSON DESERVES THE POSITION and is a hard working and high skilled perosn then i see no reason why this person wont get a was6a for the job that they r best at!

"Wasta is wrong. Period."

That's how it should be. But life is not about white and black. Corruption exists everywhere, either directly or indirectly. You can not go in a city where coprrution is 100% and expect yourself to fix the corruption OR atleast not play their game. (on rare cases you'll be able to succeed)

For instance, if you live in a place where you can get a job ONLY through wasta, then I would say go by wasta (if you have the qualifications), but if you do not have qualifications, then do NOT use wasta.

If you want to kill wasta, you have to do that gradually, and not with a sudden attack. Look at the days of prophet mohammed (SAW), he did not ban drinking alcohol from day 1. He did it gradually, saying do not drink it when you come to prayers, and then reached to the point of saying "No completely to drinking".

Crazy red if u see what i had written i said IF THE PERSON DESERVES THE POSITION and is a hard working and high skilled perosn then i see no reason why this person wont get a was6a for the job that they r best at!

I did see it but what I ment was it shouldn't be happening regardless of the person having a good degree or not
having a good degree should qualify the person for the job without needing wasta

I am totally against it if it means giving someone an unfair advantage over others (for example in job interviews). If I ever get to a position of power where ppl come to me for was6a then boy are they gonna be disappointed.

What does wasta mean? Tribal connection?

no it's like favourism for example you have been aplying for jobs but arn't getting any so you go ask your father who knows this person and that person will agree to hire you

you'll be hired not because you qualify but because a friend asked me to

What does wasta mean? Tribal connection?

its getting things done by using ur "connections" with others..

Catacea, its called nepotisim in english.

Diva, living in this society its hard not to offer wasta yourself ... somone would come to you saying thier are poor and need help in finding a job that would make them able to support the family.. you would feel sorry and would want to help sa7? but thats wasta!!

am against it ,although i used it so many times, recently, am trying to stop, especially using it in hospitals , i feel bad therefore, i go to a private hospital instaed, seeing the same doctor that i could've seen in government for free (through wasta).

Its becoming part of our tradition , its a must to get things done faster and show Gratitude to each other.

Diva, living in this society its hard not to offer wasta yourself ... somone would come to you saying thier are poor and need help in finding a job that would make them able to support the family.. you would feel sorry and would want to help sa7? but thats wasta!!

I keep hearing from a lot of ppl that it's hard to survive here without wasta. But I still don't think it's that hard. If someone came to me asking for help finding a job then I'll point them in the right direction and do whatever I can for them as long as I'm not giving them an unfair advantage. Ya3ni if that person who is poor and unqualified is up against a person who's qualified and looking for a job, I wouldn't be able to give the job to the poor person. That's just not right. Having said that, I've only just arrived in Oman and still have to go through the hassle of looking for a job. I have faith in the system; that my qualifications and not my personal connections will get me a suitable job. I hope I won't be disappointed. If I am then I'll be posting again in this thread soon :)

I am totaly against it. many told me to get a was6a for my driving lisence but i just refused ( even though i bloody failed 7 times LOL ) but i just prefer to do things the right way. Only those who truely deserve it should get what they're supposed to get.. was6a ruins chances for some people who actually deserve that chance.

I keep hearing from a lot of ppl that it's hard to survive here without wasta. But I still don't think it's that hard. If someone came to me asking for help finding a job then I'll point them in the right direction and do whatever I can for them as long as I'm not giving them an unfair advantage. Ya3ni if that person who is poor and unqualified is up against a person who's qualified and looking for a job, I wouldn't be able to give the job to the poor person. That's just not right. Having said that, I've only just arrived in Oman and still have to go through the hassle of looking for a job. I have faith in the system; that my qualifications and not my personal connections will get me a suitable job. I hope I won't be disappointed. If I am then I'll be posting again in this thread soon :)

Welcome back.. and i see that alot of people do depend on wasta.. i think u WILL be posting pretty soon, because to get a job here in the first place.. if u just graduated from uni, then it's hard to get a job. So most of the people in society turn to people they know in higher places.

Well if it's for me then ok but if it's for others then no :D

It's wrong and it's totally unfair to the others. Its' one of the reasons why we can't go forward in certain things, because no fair chances are offered equally to the people.

It's our duty to start with ourselves and try to stop this. Otherwise, it will just keep going and going, and we'll still be standing in the same point, or would start going back.

i think we HAVE been standing in the same point for quite some time now!! dont you?

.. personally i dont see any thing wrong with wasta!! if ppl do it, then just do it!

.. especially if the targeted person for wasta got the qualifications , the yeah let him/her pass..

.. whats the point to die of 'qahir' when i see others doing it for ppl who dont even deserve it..

.. and as the omani saying says :ما دامهَ الدّر حِلُبها

well i'm against it BUT it doesnt mean that i wont use it if i can get it........