View Full Version : Careful to Whom You're Giving Advice! He's Older Than You!


E-Sensation
05-10-04, 04:22 AM
Something I usually see from old people is that they never take advice from people who are younger than them. Being old doesn't necessarily mean that you know better than who's young. And when someone is younger than you is trying to give you a piece of advice, they do because they care about you. So, why some people usually tend to take it as an offence or "negative comment" instead of being thankful to the people who offered their advice?

I had so many personal problems regarding this subject where I am entitled "too young" to give someone advice. It's indeed irritating that there are some people in this world who still believe in the old arabic saying: "if someone is one day older than you, then his knowledge is far to be compared to yours"

"أكبر منك بيوم, أفهم منك بسنة"

From now on, I'm just going to keep my advice for myself and never share it. I don't want to get humiliated with the "too young" thingy. Only people who really respect me, I will share with them my ideas and advice. I won't bother ignoring hard-headed people who think they can never go wrong.

Red_Zone

Najah
05-10-04, 05:26 AM
Nice thread Red Zone, and i very much agree on this issue. Many people came across me have the same stuborn way of thinking as well, and i really think those who fall into this category are close minded not very open to different opinion BUT and again but there are way's in expressing the advise and there are ways on when and how to say it.
I really think and believe that when you know the person well you tend to acknowledge their ways and personalities and you get into their personalities vibe. What i mean is, you feel more comfortble with the people you know i guess because you know how to put your advise the way they accept it.

I sat and thought about those young people who advise me somtimes and the difference between my acceptance i came to conclude that there are some MATURE people younger than me that really have a very solid great way of advising. I think its a talent.

Don't quit advising: Deen anasee7a remember, you are ought to advise but find alternatives, if the current way is not working find yourself a different way that might come with an outcome :) remember you don't have to utter to convey your messege, there many 1000 different way of advising and expressing out of love :)

ReVeLuTiOnAl^
05-10-04, 10:54 AM
You reminded me with a nice story!!! .. shall i mention it..just learn alot from it..

A religious guy i know was once praying in a mosque-which is not the one he usually goes to- so..the people there they know him. During the prayer, the imam- who is about 70 years old- made a slight mistake. so our young religious guy after the pray went to him and told him in a very calm and nice way about his mistake, the old Imam said to him, inshallah i will be cautious next time and thank you for your advice, etc..so the Imam showed a very nice attitude..but you know what happened after"?

In the next pray- our young guy was not with them- the Imam after the pray said to the people "Am I an ignorant? a young ignorant guy came to advice me after the previous prayer, who are these guys to come and teach us how we perform our prayers", and he mentioned him. !!!

so..yeah..true...just be careful.

amo_l_oman
05-10-04, 11:01 AM
Apart this specific episode in which addressing someone as young is really rude, i don't understand why you young people feel humiliated if anybody tells you are too young .
Is a fact and surely age is not a matter of maturity or sensitivity or any other quality but when you'll be lil bit older you will understand what we mean by saying that ;)

X-press
05-10-04, 12:35 PM
Red_Zone, there is a big difference between giving an advice and wrongly accusing someone of something which you didn't carefully study.

This is exactly what you did to me yesterday and to my opinion it is wrong no matter the age gap. You opening this thread will not make a difference in the negative picture you now give me of you...but if it makes you feel better than be free. Remember that you opened this thread, not me.

As an exemple, there is a difference between saying:
"Don't you think that you might encourage young girls to become sexually active, when you talk so openly about sex. I think it is not such a good idea."
and saying:
"It is so disappointing to see you talking about sex so openly in a forum! Don't you see that you are only encouraging young girls to lose their virginity, by talking about how long a penis should or shouldn't be! Think of the bad reputation you give the muslim community and to yourself!"

Now, Red_Zone, if you are a mature person and can think wisely, which of the two sounds more like a nice advise and which one sound like a pure accusation?

E-Sensation
05-10-04, 01:10 PM
X-Press,

At first, I recall apologizing to you almost 3 times about what happend. But if that will change something, I agologize again. Mathmatically: 3+1=4

Secondly, the thread's purpose has nothing to do with you. I brought it up because of problems in real life, that is. The society where am living is acting as I mentioned earlier, so, I wanted to see what other people think of the issue and how they handle it.


Red_Zone

X-press
05-10-04, 03:02 PM
Really? If you did apologize, it is in the same reply where you were wrongly accusing me of doing something I didn't do! It is easy to pock at a member and say at the same time: 'sorry'.

This thread is yours and as I already gave my opinion, I am out of here...

*NK 105*
05-10-04, 10:55 PM
Apart this specific episode in which addressing someone as young is really rude, i don't understand why you young people feel humiliated if anybody tells you are too young .

It is humiliating.. cuz its like the people are telling us "what do u know? ur too young to voice any opinions about anything? what would u know.. ur 2 young to even have life experiences.." and tht insults us.. cuz life is an experience, no matter how long or short it is!

Scorpio27
05-10-04, 11:01 PM
Older are not always smarter neither always they are prudent.:(

amo_l_oman
06-10-04, 02:48 AM
It is humiliating.. cuz its like the people are telling us "what do u know? ur too young to voice any opinions about anything? what would u know.. ur 2 young to even have life experiences.." and tht insults us.. cuz life is an experience, no matter how long or short it is!
Well i never say that sentence, but my ways show that is what i mean: i try not to do in a rude way, simply i'd like youngers not to make my mistakes forgetting that those were exactly my feelings when i was addressed in such way.
I didn't take it as humiliation when i was told that, cause i used to be a very proud person, but i was offended yep.

*NK 105*
06-10-04, 11:15 PM
yeah well thats why alot of youngsters don't give advice to people significantly older than them.. because they'll just tell us to "shove it up our asses"..