View Full Version : Briton wounded in Oman shooting


Mr Tickle
28-09-04, 05:03 PM
I see that a British man has been seriously injured after he was shot in the neck in Muscat

What's going on?

IceTea
28-09-04, 05:04 PM
amo needs link.

Or you just saw that in the sky!

Mr Tickle
28-09-04, 05:15 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3696828.stm

CrazyReD
28-09-04, 09:17 PM
wow never knew such a thing was going on
contract killers to
anyone in oman knows whats going on?

fatamooo
28-09-04, 11:43 PM
Well, that's really freaky. I never thought I'd see the day where we'd see this kind of disgusting violence in Oman. I guess, in a way, it's inevitable... I hope this is the last time we hear about it though :S.
What's happening in this world??

NiGhTFaCe
29-09-04, 12:03 AM
This is not the 1st case, if you would look at the page been linked above. Just looking at the 1st case, its about the people, & not the place.

Pineapple Thief
29-09-04, 12:27 AM
I heard about this yesterday morning. thanks for the link.

Desert_Sloath
29-09-04, 12:40 AM
Let me pray the behaviour is confined within the guest community and no citizen is involved in this kind of inhumanity behaviour of the law of the jungle.




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X-press
29-09-04, 12:47 AM
Let's wait to get more details before making any final judgment. It is surely not the first incident in Oman, but I hope it will not become an habit like what we see in other countries.

Wishing this man a safe recovery and waiting to read what triggered this attack...

IceTea
29-09-04, 08:44 AM
Let us wait and see, maybe it's just an accident.

Mr Tickle
29-09-04, 02:05 PM
Has it been reported in the local media?

Arabian Princess
29-09-04, 02:18 PM
The policy in oman it doesnt get announced in the media until the crime is somehow clear.

amo_l_oman
29-09-04, 07:47 PM
amo needs link.

Or you just saw that in the sky!
Don't need for link when am in Muscat, here everything is known ;) Hmmm but didn't hear of it really :eyes: i will activate my contacts...

IceTea
29-09-04, 07:55 PM
amo, how come you are in Oman and I don't know :).

jack
29-09-04, 07:58 PM
The policy in oman it doesnt get announced in the media until the crime is somehow clear.This is strange then ... :os

So if the case is not cleared then it is never announced to the media that a crime was ever commited?

That's one way to make sure your crime rate is low ;)

sanwin25
29-09-04, 08:13 PM
probably also explains the low crime rate, lack of rapes, excellent family life, non existent HIV/STD rates in Oman and the rest of the Arab world.

X-press
29-09-04, 10:17 PM
Not sure if it is true, but I heard today that the victim is a doctor. He was on his way to drop his kid to school when this happened and it seems he is not in serious condition...maybe someone was simply cleaning his gun on his balcony and press on the (..whatever we call in english...) and the bullet went...

Can someone remind me why this thread is in the Political Sabla? Pino are you sure this is a terrorist related crime? :rolleyes:

IceTea
29-09-04, 10:25 PM
I heard that he is working in muscat private hospital and happend in Lekhwair area.

As XP said it seems either by mistake or just personal reasons as the Germany case.

fatamooo
30-09-04, 01:59 AM
I heard it happened at the al-athaiba medical center place ... thats scary cause that place is RIGHT next to my house :'(...

Majn0on Sophia
30-09-04, 02:09 AM
omg !! ... :(

CrazyReD
30-09-04, 03:18 AM
well did you hear any loud noise? or something?

Seham
30-09-04, 12:12 PM
That's one way to make sure your crime rate is low ;)
lol... good one! Yes, thats right! They like to keep it undercover locally while it is published in every d.amn News channel & paper outside the country! They think they can continue keeping locals ill informed with the current advances in Telecommunication! How naive?!

The rumour I heard is he is the GM of Muscat Private Hospital!

Desert_Sloath
30-09-04, 12:47 PM
They like to keep it undercover locally while it is published




avoiding what somebody called "mindset." :gap: may be the attitude is "if they (public) can find out for themselves, then why (media) tell them ?" :eek:

no wonder why papers are not sold like hot cake do :blush:




I, eye, like your Avatar Seham, Insh`A`Allah waled :duck:





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IceTea
30-09-04, 02:51 PM
They like to keep it undercover locally while it is published!


Cuz there are other important issues instead of such cases until it's fully confirmed.

Mr Tickle
30-09-04, 03:33 PM
like what?

IceTea
30-09-04, 04:30 PM
Why the whole country needs to know about an accident, we have car accidents everyday for example. Is it wise to publish such events and disturbe the public?

sanwin25
30-09-04, 05:04 PM
If a tree falls in the forest and there is nobody around, does it make a sound?

Shinoda LP
30-09-04, 08:49 PM
Sad to hear of such an incident, but I seriously think the media should have covered such an incident. Waiting for some sort of a solid evidence is not reason enough to keep people wondering ...

CrazyReD
30-09-04, 10:04 PM
it would make a sound but no one would hear it ;)
I think the media usually reports stuff after the crime/case is solved
that way the public dosn't panic
that's what I think not sure though

sanwin25
30-09-04, 10:30 PM
If if they don't solve it, it doesn't get reported ! ;)

Kind of a neat way to keep crime stats down, dont you think ?

CrazyReD
30-09-04, 10:54 PM
sure is can't beat that now can you

Amir
30-09-04, 11:09 PM
Oman is just like any other country, there is no super power in Oman stopping crime from happening in it.

When I read some people around here, it just gives me a picture of Oman, as if there can't be a crime ever.

Oman is safe when we look into other countries, and the crime rate is low. But then it doesn't mean that there can't be a crime, and a shooting can't ever happen!

Awain ACCIDENT?!!

Amir
30-09-04, 11:19 PM
Why the whole country needs to know about an accident, we have car accidents everyday for example. Is it wise to publish such events and disturbe the public?

That is not what you said when I said about the corruption and stuff coming in the media Icey!

Plus, amount of deaths by accidents only keeps people cautious and does not scare the public. Crimes being shown out in media only makes people aware that there are such things happening, and be careful.

So, I don't think so publishing such news would scare the public, otherwise I would say in countries of where crime rates are so high, and the death tolls are being issued in newspapers people wouldn't go out, and people would always build houses that looks like vaults and where nothing could reach them!!!!

Mr Tickle
30-09-04, 11:21 PM
Is it possible that your media holds thingss back from you?

CrazyReD
30-09-04, 11:49 PM
very possible

Gonzo
01-10-04, 05:11 PM
For anyone who is interested - here is a link with a bit more info on the recent shooting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3700886.stm

amo_l_oman
01-10-04, 07:07 PM
Sounds like a country where every thing is under police control: a state of police. Right or wrong?
There are many around the world, Oman is one of them.

Arabian Princess
01-10-04, 10:33 PM
If if they don't solve it, it doesn't get reported !

Kind of a neat way to keep crime stats down, dont you think ?

Nop, coz almost all crimes get solved alhamdulilah :)
Why do you want it be publicized and make the public panic .. let the crime picture get cleared and then they would publicise it if needed.

Sanwin, crime rate comes from the officials themselves .. not matter if they give it to the media or not, it will be the same crime rate which alhamdulilah is low :rolleyes:

Its not a terroriest attack...The man is not severly injured at all, he injury is classified as minor injuries....the crime is bieng invistigated .. let the police do thier job and when everything is clear they would publicize it.

jack
01-10-04, 11:41 PM
Nop, coz almost all crimes get solved alhamdulilah Interesting ...

Let take a look at the problem of not reporting ...

If you know how many are solved and how many are not solved then you could get an accurate total.

How many crimes are not solved ...?

Problem is you have no idea how many aren't solved ... :os

Therefore how can you honestly say "most" are solved?

Arabian Princess
01-10-04, 11:52 PM
coz I know that most are solved :)

Desert_Sloath
01-10-04, 11:56 PM
If if they don't solve it, it doesn't get reported ! ;)

Kind of a neat way to keep crime stats down, dont you think ?



you are absolutely right :color: but again what's the use of reporting ? :eyes: we have enough in terms of 'morphination' of our minds. look for exizampo what is happening in Palestine. Every day there are tens of thousands of Arabs being killed there, oooops not only there Iraq has joined or rather been added to a gain for killing ground. We hear, they die, some even weep but what is the use. A tree can fall in the forest, but that is "what they are supposed to be" :rolleyes:







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jack
01-10-04, 11:58 PM
coz I know that most are solved :)Even more interesting ...

How do you know most are solved ?

When you don't know how many crimes have been commited ?

Ahhhhh ... Do you work in ROP ...? :scratch:

X-press
02-10-04, 12:20 AM
From the BBC news, it seems that it is the chief executive officer of Muscat Private Hospital (Peter Blackburn) who was shot in the neck and currently in stable condition.

A close friend of Mr Blackburn's wife Julie said he had been shot in his car while waiting for his son outside the Al Khuwair Health Centre in a suburb of Muscat.

She also said Mrs Blackburn had been advised by the authorities to keep the incident quiet, and that very little information had been given to the family.

"The theory is that he was shot by someone who had a vendetta against Muscat Private Hospital where he works," she said.

So far this incident doesn't seem political to me...and this thread could be moved to the 'Problems Sabla' until we find a real Al-Qaeda link to it ;).


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jack
02-10-04, 12:29 AM
X-PSo far this incident doesn't seem political to me...and this thread could be moved to the 'Problems Sabla' until we find a real Al-Qaeda link to it . I'm not suggesting that this crime has anything to do with "Al-Qaeda or any terrorist activity" ... no connection ... none ... nada ... zip!

More than likely this is part of the explanation for the cause
"The theory is that he was shot by someone who had a vendetta against Muscat Private Hospital where he works,"

What we are looking at is the transparency of the media ...

When a crime is commited.

Desert_Sloath
02-10-04, 12:35 AM
What we are looking at is the transparency of the media ...

When a crime is commited.



we only have to "look at plutarch signature" to understand the motive of the media for not reporting :gap:


one can't have own bread buttered on both sides can you ?




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jack
02-10-04, 12:49 AM
D_Sone can't have own bread buttered on both sides can you ?Sure you can ...

Infact you can have butter on both sides and jam too on one side or both sides. :p

X-press
02-10-04, 12:57 AM
jack, as this thread is in the Political Sabla, it means that the thread opener find a political connection in this shooting...unless he can explain why he doesn't see it as a personal problem?

What we are looking at is the transparency of the media ...

When a crime is commited.Sorry, as I really thought you were more interested to know why this shooting was committed.

If the Royal Oman Police has so far no clue as to who did the shooting or why it was done, how do you expect the media to know more about such type of crime which is practically inexistant in this country?

Two similar incidents happened last years and I believe that the media gave full details of what happened and how the 'criminals' would be punished. So why don't we wait and give them some time to investigate....:)

Jack, is every single crime, shotting, rape, molestation etc...reported by the media in your country?

jack
02-10-04, 01:11 AM
Jack, is every single crime, shotting, rape, molestation etc...reported by the media in your country?I doubt it ...

What I can do or any other citizen can do is go to the court house ...

Get all the cases on file ... solved/unsolved etc ...

And check ... media can do this also. To verify ...

Can you do this in Oman?

Amir
02-10-04, 02:00 AM
Jack!

Read the news again from BBC Click Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3700886.stm).

Doesn't it look like someone wanted him to die, read whatever his wife said, and what all the British men said.

Muscat Private Hospital??!!! hmmm :scratch:

Who is it owned by?

Is anyone losing anything because of MPH?

What would be the motive of this crime?

Something fishy is going on!!! :yes:

X-press
02-10-04, 02:18 AM
What I can do or any other citizen can do is go to the court house ...

Get all the cases on file ... solved/unsolved etc ...

And check ... media can do this also. To verify ...

Can you do this in Oman?
Yes this can be done in Oman and I can assure you that many citizens, especially the Nationals, so visit the court house. Thanks God, until now it is rarely for crime related cases. The process is usually long, but it is most of the time solved to their favor or against it.

I still don't see how this is related to this thread and the sad shooting of Mr. P.Blackburn?...

IceTea
02-10-04, 08:15 AM
That is what I said in the begining this is just a personal case like the Germany case. Next time you should believe me guys :scratch:

DeSerTDesTroYeR
02-10-04, 09:47 AM
This thread as XP mentioned is more suited for the Problem Sabla. MOVED...

Wardat_il'7leej
02-10-04, 10:42 AM
There are always sad sickos who have some sort of vendetta on some poor soul for one reason or another not everything is 'terrorist' motivated or has to be reported. It may not be reported into the Omani local newspapers since not enough information has been found over the case, but it does not go to say that nothing is ever mentioned or that our crime rates are low. If a crime occurs it is reported but it does not necessarily need to be placed as a statistic in the local newspapers, which also does not mean that our crime rates are low. I am sure as some of you have mentioned that the Court Houses do provide such information, even though crime in Oman is considerably low in comparison to other countries......thus we are expected to have low crime rates reported or not!

amo_l_oman
02-10-04, 12:08 PM
That is what I said in the begining this is just a personal case like the Germany case.
Exactly, is a personal case like it was for the german guy, cause everything happened in a private house, if you know what really happened...
It becomes political later, when police and government acts in a certain way, when amnesty requests are rejected because...............

SoMe1
02-10-04, 11:54 PM
This is very true. The man is indeed a British National and for more detail check out the British Embassy's website www.britishembassy.gov.uk/oman .

You know what pisses me off.. the Doctor was shot in the neck and he was so upset that no one offered to help him although there were people around.. he was bleeding and he had he's 4 year old kid in the car looking at him and crying.. he had to pick up his GSM phone and call his wife while half of his body was paralyzed.

He is recovering now and in a much stable condition, the police however would not allow this to appear in the news papers which sucks really..

The Doctor is very upset that he was not helped by people passing by, he feels although eh spent 20+ years serving this country this is the kind of treatment he deserves..

mimosa
04-10-04, 06:11 PM
Princess! Please!

If "all crimes are solved", what about that other British guy who was shot a year ago - also in the back of the head/neck? And some police were saying he was injured by glass or in a "hunting accident"! It's disgraceful. No police service is perfect, but I'd be much more happy knowing that the investigation had never reached a conclusion than knowing that those in authority were lying about it as in that case (and this latest one?!). Both men were shot deliberately at close range, with an aimed shot to the back of the head, but in different places and a year apart. No motive has ever been found.

By the way, if you think having a bullet pass through your spine and lower skull and out through your face is "classified as a minor injury", then I'd hate to hear of anyone having a serious injury!!

One of the problems with keeping quiet about it and telling all the newspapers to shut up even though the whole country has already heard, is that there is never any appeal for witnesses. How can the public help you investigate a crime if you pretend it hasn't happened?! There were plenty of people around when Peter Blackburn was shot outside the Al Khuwair Health Centre. But there are no signs there with a contact number for police calling for witnesses, nor in the papers or on the TV.

Do you know the story of the "three wise monkeys"?!

Shinoda LP
04-10-04, 08:16 PM
Exactly, mimosa!

These very people who find the need to keep supporting their country's services, no matter how bad it is might be the next ones to fal prey to such acts.