View Full Version : 'Betrayal' would u go or would you stay?


dija
21-07-04, 03:54 PM
What would you do if you found that the love of your life is not what have u expected? What would you do if he slept with a nothing girl and left u and u'v got it all? Thats what s happening nowadays men goes after women even if a girl have it all. A girl is sexy hot and perfect but still the ******* goes after another woman just cz he wants something new!!! :fire:
men these days dont appreciate what they have.they only go after a woman then another one then another one.... and finally after he got what he wants he comes sorry to the girl " I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING"....
I scroed up plzz forgive me.. a girl gets shock bt eventully she forgives him saying that men are controled ba there needs...WHAT!!!! what needs are u talking abt girl he s an animal he s using u he knows that u will forgive him that s why he did it ... why couldnt he think abt u that moment why cant he feel u why cant he be yours only why to share your body to another woman but your girl???? why why why many questions...
my bf cheated me wid ma friend and stupid her she came and told me i spend wid your X 4 days in a hotel.... and now he s baging me to get back to him ... i feel sorry for her i feel pitty at her why cant he sattele with her why cant he live with one girl why to play around ... ppl we have feelings we have emotions.... men will never change ..... they do bad say sorry a girl is silly enough to forgive him .. this how life goes on these days... shame on us to give them chance shame on us to love them shame on us to be with them.... :no:

ReVeLuTiOnAl^
21-07-04, 04:14 PM
A paraphrasing of the BoyFriend thread...:)

Cerulean
22-07-04, 04:54 AM
Leave. I can't stay with someone I dont trust.

Her XLNC
22-07-04, 05:29 AM
well lemme start by saying MOST men are DAWGZ :bored: :rolleyes: ... i know trust me...BUT dont u think anyone...just ANYONE deserves a 2nd chance...n if he blew it..then i suggest.. :shoot: " YOU GIVE HIM THE BOOTS!! :wave: " :angel:

Need I add more.. :color: :rolleyes:

~*FaiThFuL*~
22-07-04, 06:00 AM
Err in your case I would have to say "Leave him"
in an other case, there might be a different reply..

amo_l_oman
22-07-04, 10:55 AM
Yep, in this case leave for sure but love, life, betrayal are not so simple, depends.

UmHamed
22-07-04, 12:19 PM
it depends how was our relationship before he cheated.. I may forgive and stay if he will be willing to help me to forget and convince me that will not happen again.. it aint easy but it is possible...

B_UNKNOWN
22-07-04, 01:40 PM
I agree totally with Um Hamad it depends on how close we were, but its scarry I would never wanna face that - I would die.

Neena
23-07-04, 05:05 PM
I always thought that Cheating is the last thing a woman would really take from a man, and wouldn;t even stay a single minute there with him!!!

But the funny things is - those women who have been in such a situation, tend to stay back, and when they are asked, all what they say is that, they just cna;t imagin their lives with out their husband, especially after so many years od being married!!

As for me - to be honest with you I do not really believe my self to be able to stay under one roof with a husband who has cheated on me, so many things would just be broken. But I am not sure how i would feel if this horrible thing would happen to me, I do not have an experience in it, "and wouldn;t want to inshalla"

I am just giving out my opinion on something I so think and believe I would do, but if the actuale thing happens my reaction could be totally different!!

Enigma
23-07-04, 05:31 PM
No. For me it doesn't matter the situation, how close he is, the reason.... NOTHING. Its black and white for me; he cheats I leave. Period.

NaBHaN
23-07-04, 05:46 PM
I am a very forgiving person , but when it comes to partnership then its a different ball game. One mistake like that and she's gone.

Neena
23-07-04, 05:47 PM
No. For me it doesn't matter the situation, how close he is, the reason.... NOTHING. Its black and white for me; he cheats I leave. Period.

You say this now "but would react totally differen't if it ever happens" god forbid :) "and hi Enigma"

~*FaiThFuL*~
23-07-04, 09:00 PM
You say this now "but would react totally differen't if it ever happens" god forbid :) "and hi Enigma"

Sounds quite true Neena
and what you said about alot of things being broken and you feel well lets say differently about certain things
BUT, if you have spent a long time with a partner, there will be alot of other things which you like about him and well these things wont be broken
So the women sees that on one hand she has all the things which got broken and the bitter feelings but on the other hand she has all the good things and all the good feelings and memoaries she has about this partner, I guess then she would choose to stay and try to forgive..because in a way its true that she cant live without him
But I think its mostly about not having the enough strenght to face the fact that her relationship got kinda of broken and she needs to move on..I mean to alot of people thats alot of effort to forget to let go of a relationship which they though was real and to find some1 new..
So instead they try to fix the one they are already in

Her XLNC
23-07-04, 09:06 PM
ok...4get abt husbands .. when it comes to a boyfriend and the girl knows that he's cheating on her...SHE WILL STILL GO BACK TO HIM NO MATTER WHAT.. now thats laaaaaaaaame...i mean its like she's a BOOMARANG she will stick 2 u .... sum r dumb walla...i know girls who r like that..and god i wonder if they have any DIGNITY left in 'em!!! :bored: :twitch: :os :scratch:

~*FaiThFuL*~
23-07-04, 09:28 PM
ok...4get abt husbands .. when it comes to a boyfriend and the girl knows that he's cheating on her...SHE WILL STILL GO BACK TO HIM NO MATTER WHAT.. now thats laaaaaaaaame...i mean its like she's a BOOMARANG she will stick 2 u .... sum r dumb walla...i know girls who r like that..and god i wonder if they have any DIGNITY left in 'em!!! :bored: :twitch: :os :scratch:

Mmm her XLNC, you cant really tell whats going on in her mind, can you?
I mean its even worst than a wife and her husband, a teenage girl and her boyfriend is more complicated - to the teenage girl that is
She has all those ideas and thoughts and needs in her mind and they all mixed up
She thinks this is love and everything and she is so emotional and she is driven so easily
Ofcourse to an outside-you and me- it would seem totally silly for her to return but only god knows what that poor girl has in her head
I think its even more complicated that a husband and wife, because they are mature people and can decide easily
This girl herself a9ln is in a mess being a teenage and all, ofcourse she will be droven by emotion more than a sense of mind and logic

Her XLNC
23-07-04, 09:36 PM
Mmm her XLNC, you cant really tell whats going on in her mind, can you?
I mean its even worst than a wife and her husband, a teenage girl and her boyfriend is more complicated - to the teenage girl that is
She has all those ideas and thoughts and needs in her mind and they all mixed up
She thinks this is love and everything and she is so emotional and she is driven so easily
Ofcourse to an outside-you and me- it would seem totally silly for her to return but only god knows what that poor girl has in her head
I think its even more complicated that a husband and wife, because they are mature people and can decide easily
This girl herself a9ln is in a mess being a teenage and all, ofcourse she will be droven by emotion more than a sense of mind and logic


tsk..tsk..tsk...and who said i was ONLY talkin' about a teenage girl..even grown women have the same prob. 2...and its a big shame..i say it again..BIG SHAME..

~*FaiThFuL*~
23-07-04, 09:46 PM
Mm I dont think its okay to judge while one isnt in the situation itself
But anyhow dear thats your opinion and you are entitled to it :)

Enigma
23-07-04, 11:46 PM
You say this now "but would react totally differen't if it ever happens" god forbid :) "and hi Enigma"

No Neena, I'm very well known to be an unforgiving, black & white person. Sure that might not sound nice but it keeps me out of being hurt over and over again.

NaBHaN
23-07-04, 11:49 PM
No Neena, I'm very well known to be an unforgiving, black & white person. Sure that might not sound nice but it keeps me out of being hurt over and over again.

you're not as black and white as u think u are.

Orion
24-07-04, 12:08 AM
I think of it less on terms of forgiveness and more about the parameters in which you are willing to live in.

My experience has been ... if you have the capacity to cheat on a certain person ONCE ... you will do it again - and if someone has the capacity to cheat on you ONCE ... he/she will do it again.

If you are willing to live in a relationship like that ... (ie under the possibility it might happen again) than fair enough.

And if not - better leave dodge ASAP!

;)

Enigma
24-07-04, 12:17 AM
you're not as black and white as u think u are.

Try me ;)

Pretender I agree about the 'once a cheater always a cheater' comment.

NaBHaN
24-07-04, 12:20 AM
Try me ;) .

why would i wanna do something i myself dont believe in. like duh!

anyways.. when i said not black and white i meant in other things. u cant say u're a black and white person if u sometimes go grey in certain situations. ;)

Her XLNC
24-07-04, 12:39 AM
Try me ;)

Pretender I agree about the 'once a cheater always a cheater' comment.


uh oh.. :shut:

Her XLNC
24-07-04, 12:40 AM
why would i wanna do something i myself dont believe in. like duh!

anyways.. when i said not black and white i meant in other things. u cant say u're a black and white person if u sometimes go grey in certain situations. ;)


word twister... :p :bored:

Neena
24-07-04, 01:11 AM
No Neena, I'm very well known to be an unforgiving, black & white person. Sure that might not sound nice but it keeps me out of being hurt over and over again.

I like that, black and white theory!!! - Yet funny there isn;t such a thing called black or white, not everything you treat in life as balck or white!!

As i said up there, while ur not in that situation, and been through a lot with ur partner in terms of having a family, ups and downs. etc.. you still can;t really know!!

Orion
24-07-04, 02:03 AM
I need to repeat myself ... so people read carefully what I said:

"My experience has been ... if you have the capacity to cheat on a certain person ONCE ... you will do it again - and if someone has the capacity to cheat on you ONCE ... he/she will do it again."

So in different situations it might be possible to be loyal to one person for your entire life.

But in another situation, the same individual (he/she), maybe completely disloyal to another partner.

Maybe he/she doesn't make you happy, maybe you are driven to it after time, maybe your history was crap, maybe other situations distance/time took a toll on the relationship ... maybe lack of communication creeped into what was once healthy.

Regardless ... my definition of what people like to call 'true love' is actually being LOYAL to ONE person FOREVER!

:blush:

nana
24-07-04, 11:37 AM
Yep, in this case leave for sure but love, life, betrayal are not so simple, depends.

i like your sign amo... it's very true.........

UmHamed
24-07-04, 11:48 AM
why would i wanna do something i myself dont believe in. like duh!

anyways.. when i said not black and white i meant in other things. u cant say u're a black and white person if u sometimes go grey in certain situations. ;) :D lol NaB BTW we all say that actually I said I might forgive him only because I am 100% confident that my husband is not gonna read that :D

well cheating is very bad I mean very bad.... why would a person risky his/her relationship for something like that? If you have problem with your partner better talk and solve instead of going and find another hell... but I would say most men are loose characters :twitch:

Well most men cheat because they are looking for attention which may be they dont get from their partner? and not because that another woman is hot or another woman is more beatiful. or it doenst mean that they dont love their parner... :tiered:

HaYa
24-07-04, 01:13 PM
Its so scary i dont even wanna think of it :no:

If it happens.. i'll definitly leave him bcoz if he does that he becomes worthless and there is no point of continuing with a person who's not worth it ...

i've seen cases infornt of me where women been too forgiving and ended up being hypertensive ,diabetic all kind of diseases u name it.

Wardat_il'7leej
24-07-04, 01:24 PM
I saw the program on Oprah about betrayal and was really shocked how the women decided to forgive and forget about their partners’ betrayal. What shocked me the most was one mans confession to his wife that he still misses and wants to talk to his lover!?!?!
I for one would never accept anything like this ever! There is a loss of trust when such a thing happens and it would be so difficult to take things back to what they used to be…I think that the person will always live in doubt for the rest of their lives…Its tough!

dija
24-07-04, 03:28 PM
i have a close firend who loves her boyfriend sOoOoO much n she knows that he s cheating on her bt still she forgive him .... n when ever she do that he go n flert wid other gals n once he got bored of her weakness n he told her that he wanna broke up wid her n i was there with them when he said that n do u know ppl what did she do she cryed n baged him NO NO i love u ......... :eyes: :tiered: i was shocked n i bumbed ma head on a wall n get the hell out of there i dont talk 2 de gal now cz i cant look at her ,n c her lowing her self to an animal n u know the wierdest thing ever she s still wid him n she itreduce him to girls aweeeeeeeeen so he cheat her infront of her eyes ....daaaaaaaaaaa what a dummy :no:

Libellula
24-07-04, 05:24 PM
When it comes to relationships, I don't really believe in second chances. Once someone has betrayed me (be it by breaking a promise, cheating on me with someone else, etc) they would have lost my trust and should not even bother trying to win it back. I just think that if someone can do something once, they can definitely do it again. And I don't like to be vulnerable.

Her XLNC
25-07-04, 01:01 AM
i have a close firend who loves her boyfriend sOoOoO much n she knows that he s cheating on her bt still she forgive him .... n when ever she do that he go n flert wid other gals n once he got bored of her weakness n he told her that he wanna broke up wid her n i was there with them when he said that n do u know ppl what did she do she cryed n baged him NO NO i love u ......... :eyes: :tiered: i was shocked n i bumbed ma head on a wall n get the hell out of there i dont talk 2 de gal now cz i cant look at her ,n c her lowing her self to an animal n u know the wierdest thing ever she s still wid him n she itreduce him to girls aweeeeeeeeen so he cheat her infront of her eyes ....daaaaaaaaaaa what a dummy :no:

D@*N..Dija..ur gurl got issues which need 2 be dealt wid' ASAP...she lowered herself BIGTIME.. :bang: :Shock: ..if she were ma friend i'd knock some SENCE 2 her head..yeah LOAD OF SENCE.. :fire: :angre:

Pineapple Thief
26-07-04, 11:53 PM
well lemme start by saying MOST men are DAWGZ :bored: :rolleyes: ... i know trust me...BUT dont u think anyone...just ANYONE deserves a 2nd chance...n if he blew it..then i suggest.. :shoot: " YOU GIVE HIM THE BOOTS!! :wave: " :angel:

Need I add more.. :color: :rolleyes:


:scary: :scary:

This thread is scary. How are most men DAWGZ exactly? Maybe the men you go for are DAWGZ, but the way I see it, these DAWGZ are an unfortunate minority. Its a passing trend, and hopefully the next trend will be somewhat less ridiculous.

On another note, I would leave. Just walk away.

Her XLNC
27-07-04, 04:06 AM
:scary: :scary:

This thread is scary. How are most men DAWGZ exactly? Maybe the men you go for are DAWGZ, but the way I see it, these DAWGZ are an unfortunate minority. Its a passing trend, and hopefully the next trend will be somewhat less ridiculous.

On another note, I would leave. Just walk away.


well nope i dnt go 4 DAWGZ coz i know when i see one..and as 4 the NEXT trend..will be WORSE..

Born Lopsided
27-07-04, 06:00 PM
Hei not all guys are like that aight? If ur boyfriend, the love of ur life is an a$$hole, then it simply means that ur attracted 2 a$$holes. If u werent, then u wouldnt hv gone 4 a punk like him. Why cant u find a decent guy? Cuz ur a$$hole magnet. Ur best friend slept with ur boyfriend, doesnt that tell u that girls are just as cheap as guys?

Libellula
27-07-04, 07:34 PM
I used to think that the majority of guys were a**holes. But then I realized that it's only the majority of the guys I know.. There are others out there who are actually nice people. Umm, I only know a few of the nice ones, but at least I'm not convinced that they're ALL bad.
In every basket, there are a few rotten apples :p

IceTea
27-07-04, 07:40 PM
my bf

Here is the source of the problem.

Pineapple Thief
27-07-04, 11:49 PM
LOL! IceTea never ceases to crack me up. It may not seem evident at first, but this guy is as witty as ... well, as a really witty thing. :D

Orion
28-07-04, 12:25 AM
This is going to sound like I'm stereotyping girls ... but I've got to observe both liberal and conservative girls in Oman ... and I have to say ... in both cases ... they are more deceptive than the men ...

It's a fact ...

dija
31-07-04, 01:59 PM
NO COMMENT i'v decided to go straight no boy friends no love stories . i found out that i odnt need that and i only need ME n ME n ME so for now on am just firndly with boys but with limmites n thats it......
.. :lost: BIG ANNOUNCMENT..

Pineapple Thief
31-07-04, 03:27 PM
Good luck with that.

sophis^catrina
31-07-04, 09:21 PM
I saw the program on Oprah about betrayal and was really shocked how the women decided to forgive and forget about their partners’ betrayal. What shocked me the most was one mans confession to his wife that he still misses and wants to talk to his lover!?!?!
I for one would never accept anything like this ever! There is a loss of trust when such a thing happens and it would be so difficult to take things back to what they used to be…I think that the person will always live in doubt for the rest of their lives…Its tough!

This is what we all say, because we were never put in that sort of situation. In fact, (I know you're married, but) ALL single women say that they would leave if their bf/hubby ever cheated on them. Reality is so different, the majority of women when in love become weak and vulnerable. Even the strongest and smartest of women. They are willing to do anything to be with that man. Love is so blind and becomes a curse. You hope that he will be completely yours and that he will realise that one day; after all he always goes back to you. You think it's because he is so attached, you do not realise you're his back-up now.

The weak ones continue to suffer and be played around with. The strong ones after a few times of being cheated on (more than twice) pull themselves and get out of the relationship. Although, realistically, I highly doubt that the woman will get out of the relationship the very first time he cheated if she was in love with him.


NO COMMENT i'v decided to go straight no boy friends no love stories . i found out that i odnt need that and i only need ME n ME n ME
.. BIG ANNOUNCMENT..

As PT said, good luck with that.

IceTea
31-07-04, 10:36 PM
NO COMMENT i'v decided to go straight no boy friends no love stories . i found out that i odnt need that and i only need ME n ME n ME so for now on am just firndly with boys but with limmites n thats it......
.. :lost: BIG ANNOUNCMENT..

Good progress, hope you will get married soon.

Libellula
01-08-04, 04:04 AM
ALL single women say that they would leave if their bf/hubby ever cheated on them. Reality is so different, the majority of women when in love become weak and vulnerable. Even the strongest and smartest of women. They are willing to do anything to be with that man. Love is so blind and becomes a curse.


The safest thing is to never love someone to the extent that your love for that person clouds your judgement. Love... moderately.

sophis^catrina
01-08-04, 04:19 AM
The safest thing is to never love someone to the extent that your love for that person clouds your judgement. Love... moderately.

But can we really control ourselves to love just moderately? I used to think, yes. After a while I realised, you may begin loving moderately and tell yourself that that is far as it goes. You get to know the person better, be with them longer and without realising it, you lose control over your emotions and fall deeper. Emotions aren't something that are predictable and controlled. It may start off being controlled, but after some time you lose control over it. The only time that you really realise the extent to which you've fallen for that person is when you have to let go.

Libellula
01-08-04, 04:57 AM
Emotions aren't something that are predictable and controlled. It may start off being controlled, but after some time you lose control over it.

:no: :no: :no:
Don't say that!! :weep: :exp:

sophis^catrina
01-08-04, 07:47 PM
:no: :no: :no:
Don't say that!! :weep: :exp:

Unfortunately, that's reality. :weep:

Orion
01-08-04, 08:12 PM
But can we really control ourselves to love just moderately? I used to think, yes. After a while I realised, you may begin loving moderately and tell yourself that that is far as it goes. You get to know the person better, be with them longer and without realising it, you lose control over your emotions and fall deeper. Emotions aren't something that are predictable and controlled. It may start off being controlled, but after some time you lose control over it. The only time that you really realise the extent to which you've fallen for that person is when you have to let go.

So sickeningly true ...

Pineapple Thief
01-08-04, 09:12 PM
The safest thing is to never love someone to the extent that your love for that person clouds your judgement. Love... moderately.

But can we really control ourselves to love just moderately? I used to think, yes. After a while I realised, you may begin loving moderately and tell yourself that that is far as it goes. You get to know the person better, be with them longer and without realising it, you lose control over your emotions and fall deeper. Emotions aren't something that are predictable and controlled. It may start off being controlled, but after some time you lose control over it. The only time that you really realise the extent to which you've fallen for that person is when you have to let go.

You keep yourself in mind, hold on to your self-respect, love yourself as a person as much as, or more than you love the other, and it can be done.

sophis^catrina
03-08-04, 08:34 AM
You keep yourself in mind, hold on to your self-respect, love yourself as a person as much as, or more than you love the other, and it can be done.

Normally this can be done at first. Although after years of being with that person this is no longer the case. The other person becomes a part of your system. A part of you. That's why these women would go to the extent of humiliating themsleves, coz by walking away from that man, they would be tearing away something very important in their system of living. Imagine trying to separate a part of your body (e.g. liver) from you, you would almost/be physically dead. Same way how these women normally view that man. They cannot see themselves living without him. Trying to separate a part of her being from her, she becomes (or almost) emotionally dead.

Love really is very powerful :scary: .

Libellula
03-08-04, 10:03 AM
Normally this can be done at first. Although after years of being with that person this is no longer the case. The other person becomes a part of your system. A part of you. That's why these women would go to the extent of humiliating themsleves, coz by walking away from that man, they would be tearing away something very important in their system of living. Imagine trying to separate a part of your body (e.g. liver) from you, you would almost/be physically dead. Same way how these women normally view that man. They cannot see themselves living without him. Trying to separate a part of her being from her, she becomes (or almost) emotionally dead.

Love really is very powerful :scary: .

Grrr.... I hate it when you make sense, and something I've tried to deny seems so true!!! :angre:

I don't think that you become emotionally dead - there are so many women who are widowed and still manage to survive and maybe even fall in love again. Love is powerful, but it doesn't necessarily have to be lethal or anything.

conflictedmind
09-08-04, 12:50 PM
Well, it's all depend how much you love and care about a person!

In relationship, I try to stick to a rule,

"Shame on you if you fool me once; shame on me if you fool me twice!" :angel:

But again, I'll keep forgiving if my love for her is more powerful than the betrayal! I guess I'll only give up until the point I realized I have to.

"Relationship is the riskiest investment, you're about to lost everything for a wrong bet. In other hand, it could be the most profitable gains in your life." :angel:

So, play it safe and wise! ;)

dija
09-08-04, 09:49 PM
Well, it's all depend how much you love and care about a person!

In relationship, I try to stick to a rule,

"Shame on you if you fool me once; shame on me if you fool me twice!" :angel:

But again, I'll keep forgiving if my love for her is more powerful than the betrayal! I guess I'll only give up until the point I realized I have to.

"Relationship is the riskiest investment, you're about to lost everything for a wrong bet. In other hand, it could be the most profitable gains in your life." :angel:

So, play it safe and wise! ;)
The last sentence is so scary man :no:

sophis^catrina
15-08-04, 08:58 PM
Grrr.... I hate it when you make sense, and something I've tried to deny seems so true!!! :angre:



:twitch: I am too much of a realist :( .

I don't think that you become emotionally dead - there are so many women who are widowed and still manage to survive and maybe even fall in love again. Love is powerful, but it doesn't necessarily have to be lethal or anything



It depends on the intensity of that love. Some people do become emotionally dead. Majority of people can pick themselves up. So it varies from person to person.

Mesmie
16-08-04, 01:58 AM
I've never been in a similar situation. All I know is that there's no guarantee in bf/gf relationships. So in this case I can neither blame the guy nor the girl. They both get carried away by their emotions and hormones. So if the girl was wise enough, then she would never involve her self in such relationships. If I ever was in this situation, then I'd never give that guy a second chance. I might still have feelings for him deep inside, but I'll learn to get over them, hopefully.

Marriage, however, is utterly different. It's much more difficult. It's based on trust, commitment, love, etc. So, if my partner ever cheated on me(la samahallah) I would be devastated. On the other hand, I'd try to forgive him. It won't be easy. However, after listening to his reasons and trying to figure out what really made him cheat on me I might be convinced and ready to forgive. So the bottom line here is that marraige is a totally different case. And it should always consist of forgiveness and compromising.