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MaterialBoy
14-07-04, 02:14 AM
Ok this is probably the last sabla you'd expect to find me in. I don't mean to be blasphemous or anything, but I have a question. You know how when a guy dies he gets lots of virgins and what ever ? WEll do women get like Freddie Prinze. Jr lookalikes ? Do they get men ?
sophis^catrina
14-07-04, 02:17 AM
Sure ;) . Allah won't forget us. You get what you wish for in heaven :6: .
MaterialBoy
14-07-04, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by sophis^catrina
Sure ;) . Allah won't forget us. You get what you wish for in heaven :6: .
Ok what if a person is gay ?
Does he get ............. guys ?
Il 9ara7a mabee virgins ma virgins
sophis^catrina
14-07-04, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by MaterialBoy
Ok what if a person is gay ?
Does he get ............. guys ?
Il 9ara7a mabee virgins ma virgins
I honestly don't know the answer to that :os . The only one I can think of is a gay man changing and desiring women now instead of men. :lost:
Cerulean
14-07-04, 02:46 AM
Hmmm.. well ur supposed to get anything u wish for. Does that answer the question? :lost:
MaterialBoy
14-07-04, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by Cerulean
Hmmm.. well ur supposed to get anything u wish for. Does that answer the question? :lost:
Amen
Freddie Prinze Jr.
Originally posted by MaterialBoy
Ok what if a person is gay ?
Does he get ............. guys ?
Il 9ara7a mabee virgins ma virgins That is what heaven is all about !
Fulfiiling all your desires as a reward for denying yourself here on earth. Kinda like winning the lottery, except on a heevenly scale.
When you go through the gates ...
Down on the left ...
Ask for Richard Simmons ... he'll know where Freddy is.
http://divedesk.com/img/rs.jpg
Oh and BTW you can't hang out with the straight people in heaven ... they don't want fags in their heaven ;)
Haroundb
14-07-04, 10:39 AM
The answer to the (Wrong Shaped) question is yes, they do get men as they want
But was kept by Allah as subject not widely discussed, to keep the shyness and courtesy of women.
But about this:
"""You know how when a guy dies he gets lots of virgins and what ever? """
Who said a guy (any one) when dies gets lots of virgins?
This is not a Grand Prize or Buy 2 Get 1 Free…!!
In heaven you do what Allah likes only. (What do you think Allah will like?)
In our life now we have shapes, minds, manners and desires different from that we will have when we are in heaven (God Willing).Wine in Heaven is not like wine in earth, sex in heaven is not like sex on earth, breathing in heaven is not like breathing on earth, sweating in heave is not like sweating on earth, eating, playing, visions,….etc.
That image so called "Freddie Prinze" something more related to TV and space channels, pornographic movie, not to heaven
In heaven there is no bad fruits, (I mean what I say!)
That image of sensual life, which is clipped with pornographic images, will not be in heaven. This is how it was translated by whom who knows nothing about Islam, or Arabic language, those who heard something and they comment on it according to the background they have in their minds. Heaven is a place where people enjoy materialistically and spiritually, it is the right place to be, not a place was people go walking nude chasing virgins???
I wish that you take it more seriously.
And you have to know that, those who will go to Heaven must travel over the "Serat"(The Passage) thinner than a hair , sharper than sword above "hell" (Gahnam), long trip, big distance above the worst place you can think of, you can fall at any time, (complete darkness) ,(Gahnam is dark) ,very hot , some will fall 70 years to reach the bottom of (Gahanam) ,think what he will see and what he will feel. This is after "Hesab" , we are not talking about those who were doomed to (Gahanm) at the first place, we are talking about those who will go to (Gannah) Heaven.
Allah took an auth that every one will pass over this passage "Serat", depending on your faith ,good deeds, your speed of passing will be.
Think think and think again…still there is a lot to know.
Originally posted by MaterialBoy
Ok what if a person is gay ?
Does he get ............. guys ?
Il 9ara7a mabee virgins ma virgins
Before we talk about destination “heaven” can we have this chit chat about the road that leads to it?
Do you believe that when a guy is on top of you, Islam is being incorporated and integrated to your life? That God is pleased with how you express your sexualities? Remember when the subject is religion its more about laws than it is about acceptance.
In a nutshell: you do this you get rewarded, you do that you get punished.
So is there any scripture that could be used to support your lifestyle and show that it does not violate any of Islam Taboos? Mind you homosexuality is classified as a major sin* in light of Quran and Sunnah.
Or is it wishful thinking on your behalf hoping that Allah is merciful and loving and he accepts you with all your short comes?
Moreover, there is a filtrations system prior to entering heaven. So that unwanted desires simply vanishes from one’s heart.
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* al Kba’er by al Thahaby
Pineapple Thief
14-07-04, 01:17 PM
:bang:
Im sure in heaven we arent ruled by our penises, as we are in this world. Im sure in heaven we dont have carnal desires, dreams of the flesh. I think its only on this piece of rock that we get wet dreams and fantasise about lesbians (or homosexuals, whatever tickles your fanny).
This virgins thing just drives me insane, really.
MaterialBoy
15-07-04, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by Raed
Before we talk about destination “heaven” can we have this chit chat about the road that leads to it?
Do you believe that when a guy is on top of you, Islam is being incorporated and integrated to your life? That God is pleased with how you express your sexualities? Remember when the subject is religion its more about laws than it is about acceptance.
In a nutshell: you do this you get rewarded, you do that you get punished.
So is there any scripture that could be used to support your lifestyle and show that it does not violate any of Islam Taboos? Mind you homosexuality is classified as a major sin* in light of Quran and Sunnah.
Or is it wishful thinking on your behalf hoping that Allah is merciful and loving and he accepts you with all your short comes?
Moreover, there is a filtrations system prior to entering heaven. So that unwanted desires simply vanishes from one’s heart.
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* al Kba’er by al Thahaby
First of all, don't make assumptions. Especially since you don't know me. I'm a virgin. ok.......so the guy on top of me thing...not funny.
And i was asking hypothetically, im not really a Muslim.
Originally posted by MaterialBoy
First of all, don't make assumptions. Especially since you don't know me. I'm a virgin. ok.......so the guy on top of me thing...not funny.
And i was asking hypothetically, im not really a Muslim.
Okay! The guy thingy "this sounds like I am talking about something else" :gap: buddy it was a metaphor.
If I knew that you would take this matter as sensitive as you did, I would not have been as sarcastic. So I apologize.
But then again, if you are not Muslim, which means that you do not believe in Islam, why would you bother with its rewards in the after life?
You have spoken of heaven with phrases that can only indicate an Islamic point of view such as:
guy dies he gets lots of virgins and what ever
And,
Il 9ara7a mabee virgins ma virgins
In Islam lots of virgins in heaven, my non-Muslim friend, suggests the rewards of Martyrdom.
conclusion:
You really shouldn't worry about what a person gets in heaven from in Islamic point of view since you are a non-Muslim.
Feel free to ask the scholars and knowledgeable ones of the religion you follow and the creed you believe in.
amo_l_oman
15-07-04, 10:01 AM
You really shouldn't worry about what a person gets in heaven from in Islamic point of view since you are a non-Muslim.
Now the notorius accuser will be accused of rudeness but no problem i'll run the risk :angel: : he asked of something very known between non Muslims, one of those things which make of Islam a strange planet for non believers, the 72 virgins and stuff.
We have this Islamic Sabla, why not asking and discussing?
And personally i hate your scholars cause remind me of my catholic teachers, cutting the religion in 1000 pieces and each giving a different answer.
Preface:
LOL..
The accuser by Amo:
Originally posted by amo_l_oman
Now the notorius accuser will be accused of rudeness but no problem i'll run the risk :angel: : he asked of something very known between non Muslims, one of those things which make of Islam a strange planet for non believers, the 72 virgins and stuff.
Yes I have lived in the west for quite sometime and I was frequently asked about this, usually my answer to how weird 72 virgins would be : Hugh hefner..
Yes as weird as this may seem Hugh is living among us, being the founder of playboy, his mansion is loaded with more than 72 babes! And he is on planet earth walking around in his pajamas! So why would it sound out of reach in heaven?
Originally posted by amo_l_oman
We have this Islamic Sabla, why not asking and discussing?
Well, we are doing that aren’t we? I have not reached my conclusion by the first post. It was later when Material Boy explained his worries of virgins attack, when all he is interested in is Men. To my knowledge the promise of 70 virgins is only made by Islam, so I was trying to lessen his worry and take away his fears.
Originally posted by amo_l_oman
And personally i hate your scholars cause remind me of my catholic teachers, cutting the religion in 1000 pieces and each giving a different answer.
They love you too lol
Seriously talking now, I view religion to be a science as sophisticated as physics, Math and Chemistry. Opinions are not be made without scriptures supporting them.
There are various schools of thoughts to each there are interpretations and understanding of Quran and Sunnah. These understandings are formulated by men who dedicated their lives studying other sciences that helps them generate and derive laws of Islam. Their research is then discussed by their own schools and argued by other schools. It is very systematic, but you are right it is not as systematic and objective as nicks saying “I do not think God wants blah , or I believe that God is blah “
all I have to say is Okay Prophet "add the nick here" when did God reveal to you his likes and dislikes?
Finally me of what Ibn Gudamah, another scholar Amo , has said once :
إختلافهم رحمة واسعة , واتفاقهم حجة بالغة
Through their different opinions mercy is established “since its more flexible and not as rigid”, and through their similar ones valid proof “sorry bad English”
MaterialBoy
15-07-04, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Raed
Okay! The guy thingy "this sounds like I am talking about something else" :gap: buddy it was a metaphor.
If I knew that you would take this matter as sensitive as you did, I would not have been as sarcastic. So I apologize.
But then again, if you are not Muslim, which means that you do not believe in Islam, why would you bother with its rewards in the after life?
You have spoken of heaven with phrases that can only indicate an Islamic point of view such as:
And,
In Islam lots of virgins in heaven, my non-Muslim friend, suggests the rewards of Martyrdom.
conclusion:
You really shouldn't worry about what a person gets in heaven from in Islamic point of view since you are a non-Muslim.
Feel free to ask the scholars and knowledgeable ones of the religion you follow and the creed you believe in.
Its called enlightenment. I like knowing people's views of things. I was curious. BITE ME
Originally posted by MaterialBoy
BITE ME
Sure would, after all I never tried it and you never know, I might end up liking it.. :rolleyes:
MaterialBoy
18-07-04, 01:29 AM
Sure would, after all I never tried it and you never know, I might end up liking it.. :rolleyes:
ok that sounds really kinky
sad_dreamer
18-07-04, 01:33 AM
Ok what if a person is gay ?
Does he get ............. guys ?
Il 9ara7a mabee virgins ma virgins
If a person is gay :scratch: well I guess .....HE'LL BE TOO BUSY BURNING IN HELL :bored:
Capricorna
18-07-04, 07:01 PM
If a person is gay :scratch: well I guess .....HE'LL BE TOO BUSY BURNING IN HELL :bored:
LOL Exactly
Hmm...... I don't know how to reply to your question Material Boy! Allah o a3lam is all I can come up with.
Guys if you wanna flirt please do it through pm... thanks :D
LOL Exactly
If he practices it yes, but not if its just a desire. God won't punish you for something you 'feel'!
Better for you to work hard to reach to the heaven and avoide the hell fire instead of thinking what you will get there.
Interesting question MaterialBoy. I don't know the answer to it but I assume gay men will suddenly become heterosexual when they get to heaven and be rewarded according to their good behaviour ;)
"la3an allah al mutashabheen bil nisa2 min al rijal, oo al mutashabheen bil rijal min al nisa2"..
That's what I know!
MaterialBoy
19-07-04, 04:20 AM
"la3an allah al mutashabheen bil nisa2 min al rijal, oo al mutashabheen bil rijal min al nisa2"..
That's what I know!
There's a difference between being gay and being a transexual. Are you dense ?
There's a difference between being gay and being a transexual. Are you dense ?
You mean transvestite. Transsexuality is a recognised medical condition. ;)
Inshallah u'll get what u want. :) just be a good boy. ;)
MaterialBoy
19-07-04, 10:54 PM
trans·sex·u·al
One who wishes to be considered by society as a member of the opposite sex.
One who has undergone a sex change
trans·sex·u·al
One who wishes to be considered by society as a member of the opposite sex.
One who has undergone a sex change
Yeah but your post was in reply to what Doodi said about men trying to look like women and vice versa. Transsexuals don't want to look like the opposite sex just for the hell of it. They want to BE the opposite sex cuz they feel trapped in the wrong body. Transvestites on the other hand just like to dress up and act like the opposite. They're not driven by biological urges. See the difference?
MaterialBoy
21-07-04, 06:55 AM
I think the way he said it he's talking about both transvestites and transexuals. I'm trying to tell him that you're not necessarily either of those if you're a homosexual.
this sounds like the health Sabla :D
Born Lopsided
22-07-04, 03:51 PM
A heaven for gays?? Yeah! I heard its in Uranus. Humour aside. In islam most mentally ill ppl are admitted in2 heaven cuz theyre not held accountable for their actions. & in the past, homosexuality was treated as a mental sickness. Gay men are simply suffering from a sexual identity crises, & like Material Boy here they all need 2 realise the fact that they are NOT 'women' trapped inside the body of a man, thats horse $hit. Blindfold a gay man & throw him in2 prison, his 1st impression of it will b
"Well thnatch my magic wand away from my manicured nailth & call me Tinker Bell, ith thith HEAVEN???"
Nocia9600
22-07-04, 08:18 PM
Ok what if a person is gay ?
Does he get ............. guys ?
Il 9ara7a mabee virgins ma virginsHave you ever thought about hell instead of heaven :Shock: :Shock:
MaterialBoy
23-07-04, 05:20 AM
Hmm...... I don't know how to reply to your question Material Boy! Allah o a3lam is all I can come up with.
Guys if you wanna flirt please do it through pm... thanks :D
ambay siktay! :barf:
MaterialBoy
23-07-04, 05:24 AM
:hyper:
If he practices it yes, but not if its just a desire. God won't punish you for something you 'feel'!
LOL you should rephrase that. Practice being gay is like practising being straight :P Just say it - sexual intercourse
~*FaiThFuL*~
23-07-04, 05:30 AM
What will gays get in the next life?
Mm I dont know, if they were extra-good in this life they will recive extra-extra good things in the next life-including good gay partners
If they were bad, they will get bad things in the next life..
Simple, juss the way its with all people..
However if there is going to be hell and heaven..and I've been wrong about Islam all along, I dunno MaterialBoy, I guess I should start worrying about me ending up in HELL! :Shock:
But well if u were a good muslim and didnt do the nasty, and kept ur desires to yourself maybe god will change you to a hetrosexual, and you will get the virgin girls.. :yes:
Or better still I heard nothing is 7aram in HELL, so maybe you will still be homo and get gay virgins..err I guess!
MaterialBoy
23-07-04, 05:46 AM
Um......I don't wanna be hetero.
~*FaiThFuL*~
23-07-04, 05:53 AM
Hmmm
Well then I guess you should juss hope that hell and heaven dont exist
OR
do the nasty and end up in hell but still be able to be homo
OR
Pray to allah: God I'll be good and stay a virgin, but in heaven I wanna stay homo and have gay partners
How about that? :angel:
MaterialBoy
23-07-04, 05:59 AM
Um.......I'm young and a virgin now of course, but I'm not going to be for my whole entire life, if I meet a person that I fall in love with..............I dunno
sad_dreamer
23-07-04, 02:06 PM
Um.......I'm young and a virgin now of course, but I'm not going to be for my whole entire life, if I meet a person that I fall in love with..............I dunno
Allah yerzgak be wald al7alal:yes: ..the translation for the moderator who's picking on me lately and has taking away my reputation points (like I care about'em:bored: ) is : I hope you'll find the right person.
MaterialBoy
24-07-04, 02:05 AM
awwwwww thanks sweety
I like your avatar - Samurai Jack kix arse :P
Anymore off-topic/attacking Material Boy's sexuality/flirting comments will be deleted.
Thanks!
Her XLNC
24-07-04, 03:09 AM
Ok what if a person is gay ?
Does he get ............. guys ?
Il 9ara7a mabee virgins ma virgins
sorry but wht i know is...GAYS DONT GO 2 HEAVEN.. i mean if they r doin' it that is... :angel:
sorry.. :rolleyes: :bored:
Her XLNC
24-07-04, 03:12 AM
Hmmm
Pray to allah: God I'll be good and stay a virgin, but in heaven I wanna stay homo and have gay partners
How about that? :angel:
ummm...LOL..!! :haha:
Frozen Echo
24-07-04, 04:22 AM
okay right now I don't think i ever wanna see samurai jack again causea gay guy said he liked it LOL j/k
Anyways ur a virgin sure but are you a virgin from the back?
Probably not
I wish i had a million bags so I could suffocate a million fags...
I think eminem says that... hmmmm
Anyways do you think ur a girl? cause if you do you might go to heaven cause your crazy
But i hope you burn in hell :p
Anyways there is n heaven for gays and inshallah theyre never will be
Cause your a man and your supposed to love women
God made adam and eve not adam and steve
You should know and why are they called gays? is it cause theyre happy?
Cause it sucks and its gay to be one... BIG TIME!
.... hahahhaha
Sorry no heaven for fags :wave:
MaterialBoy
25-07-04, 02:25 AM
okay right now I don't think i ever wanna see samurai jack again causea gay guy said he liked it LOL j/k
Anyways ur a virgin sure but are you a virgin from the back?
Probably not
I wish i had a million bags so I could suffocate a million fags...
I think eminem says that... hmmmm
Anyways do you think ur a girl? cause if you do you might go to heaven cause your crazy
But i hope you burn in hell :p
Anyways there is n heaven for gays and inshallah theyre never will be
Cause your a man and your supposed to love women
God made adam and eve not adam and steve
You should know and why are they called gays? is it cause theyre happy?
Cause it sucks and its gay to be one... BIG TIME!
.... hahahhaha
Sorry no heaven for fags :wave:
Look you collasal moron
I said im a virgin
And im gay, not a queen
I don't act or dress like a woman
Wow, an Eminem fan, thats a sign of intelligence :rolleyes:
And in the future, I don't want your replies in my threads :yuck:
I don't care about the opinions of a neandarthal
Look you collasal moron
:
I don't care about the opinions of a neandarthal
Being the picky being that I am, I should define the following word :
Neandertal man
n
extinct race of humans: an extinct subspecies of human beings that populated Europe, northern Africa, and western Asia in the early Stone Age.
Physical characteristics include a sloping forehead and large brow ridges.
===
Due to my bad habit of sticking to only science, I just wanted to say that such a thing does not exist scientifically.
Apart from artists wild imagination and linguists need to stuff the English Language with many terminologies that makes the rest of us go :lost: we have always been human from the beginning of time.
Wardat_il'7leej
25-07-04, 08:51 AM
????????????? ahhh! shouldnt this thread be locked or something ???
it Should have been long ago.. yes Wardat_il'7leej.
Arabian Princess
25-07-04, 09:43 AM
I guess its time to lock this thread ..
its way out of topic anyway!
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