This is what I have learned today about Islam and ignored yesterday [Archive]

X-press

13-07-04, 01:49 PM

It is a fact that non-muslims are unfortunately constantly bombarded with misinformations about Islam, whether it is via international satellite channes, radio stations, newspapers, magazines or books. It is also a fact that intenational media is mainly controlled by the western world.

The Internet, however, is not only a powerful medium of information, but it is not controlled by anybody. As we have this great tool in our hands, I believe it is our duty to share the correct message to those who didn't hear about it (muslims and non-muslims). It is our duty to share our islamic knowledge even in this forum with everybody who is willing to learn too.

The purpose of this thread is to post something you have learn today about Islam and which you ignored completly yesterday.

This thread is for those who learned something new today and want to share it, and this even it is a very small information which will not necessarily lead to a long or heavy discussion.

X-press

13-07-04, 01:50 PM

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I have learned today the following which I ignored yesterday:

~ That the Muslims where the first people to draw the map of the world. They drew the map with the south facing upwards and north downwards. The Kaaba was at the center.

Later, western cartographers drew the map upside down with the north facing upwards and south downwards. Yet, alhamdullilah the Kaaba is still at the center of the world map.

From Why Islam.org (http://www.whyislam.org/877/FAQ/q5.asp)

Did you know about it?

jack

13-07-04, 02:14 PM

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

shamsery

13-07-04, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by X-press
I have learned today the following which I ignored yesterday:

~ That the Muslims where the first people to draw the map of the world. They drew the map with the south facing upwards and north downwards. The Kaaba was at the center.

Later, western cartographers drew the map upside down with the north facing upwards and south downwards. Yet, alhamdullilah the Kaaba is still at the center of the world map.

Did you know about it?

No.

MoonChild

13-07-04, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by X-press
That the Muslims where the first people to draw the map of the world.

Where did you get your information? People were making world maps (the world as they knew it at least) for thousands of years - the Babylonians had world maps inscribed in clay tablet as much as 5,000 years ago or more. there are also existing world maps done by the greeks and romans 2,000-3,000 years ago.

If you want to compare how accurate they are, that's different, and we'd need to take a look :)

amo_l_oman

13-07-04, 07:09 PM

Didn't know me too, better checking.

X-press

15-07-04, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by MoonChild
Where did you get your information? People were making world maps (the world as they knew it at least) for thousands of years.....

MoonChild, can you show me a Babylonian clay tablet where the world is represented as it actually is? I am not talking about imaginary maps where the world is represented as a square or as the shape of an egg with two continents only.

I am not talking about about the creation of the first detailed world map showing accurately the 7 continents and their precise positions on the (round) earth as they can be now viewed via a satellite.

If you have any doubt that we should thanks the muslims for such contribution, here are some sites which might interest you:

The Asian news: http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/index/942.html

It was the Muslim scholar Al-Idrisi that drew the first detailed map of the world in the 12th century.

Another famous Muslim scholar, Al-Biruni, worked out the earth was round and calculated its circumference in the 11th century - 600 years before Galileo. He also maintained correctly that the earth spins on its axis and rotates around the sun.

The sylhet Online: http://www.sylhet-online.co.uk/

Did you know? The Muslim scholar Al-Idrisi, who was born in Ceuta, Spain in 1099 CE, made a "Globe" of the world out of silver weighting 400 kg, for the Norman King of Sicily, Roger II (before Roger II , Sicily was under Muslim rule).

The Globe meticulously recorded on it seven continents with trade routes, rivers, major cities & mountains! Also Columbus, who thought the world was flat, took the map which was originally taken from Al-Idrisi's work for his voyagers nearly 400 years later.

The True Religion: http://thetruereligion.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=99

In 1166, Al-Idrisi, the well-known Muslim scholar who served the Sicilian court, produced very accurate maps, including a world map with all the continents and their mountains, rivers and famous cities. Al-Muqdishi was the first geographer to produce accurate maps in color.

It was, moreover, with the help of Muslim navigators .....

muweb: http://muweb.millersville.edu/~columbus/data/his/BUISSER1.HIS

But these are just the fragmentary remains of what was once a much greater production. Many maps weredestroyed by fires, and others were stolen during periods of civil disturbance, so we must always remember that we are dealing with partial evidence.
….
long tradition of excellence in mathematics and astronomy, largely the work of Muslims and of Jews. Putting these traditions together, the Spaniards were able to compile maps of the world...

X-press

15-07-04, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by MoonChild

Where did you get your information?

"They (Muslims) drew the map with the south facing upwards and north downwards.

Flourish.org: http://www.flourish.org/upsidedownmap/

Arabia (Ancient): They put south at the top. This is because when you wake up and face the sun, south is on the right. Because of positive associations with the right as opposed to left, they put that on top.

Yemen is so named because it is on the "yamin" right of Arabia. And of course, with the sea to the south of them there was nothing "on top" of the country, so they prefered it that way.

Europeans learnt mapmaking from the Arabians and flipped the map to make themselves on top.

X-press

15-07-04, 03:22 AM

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I have learned today the following, which I ignored yesterday:

About "The Black Stone" of Kaaba or Mecca which is called, in Arabic, Al-hajar Al-aswad...

I have learned today... that Adam used to sit on The Black Stone (Al-hajar Al-aswad) and pray, when he was in heavens. That Allah (God) sent this stone (via the angels) to earth on Adam's fall from paradise.

I have learned today... the black stone was originally white (whiter than milk) when it was sent down from paradise, but that by absorbing the sins of mankind it turned it black!

I have learned today...that on the day of judgement, it will be a witness for those who have gone there for Hajj and Humra.

http://www.englishsabla.com/boy-i/Smilies/alert.gif Did you know about it?

MoonChild

15-07-04, 04:51 AM

Now didn't I say that drawing ACCURATE maps was something different and could only be evaluated by looking at the various maps? No need to be so defensive, I was going on your statement of "first world map".

At any rate, thanks for the links I am going to have a look at them - I love maps :)

X-press

15-07-04, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by MoonChild
No need to be so defensive...
Where do you see me defensive Moony? I am only giving several links to show you that the Muslims were indeed the first one to make an accurate world map.

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CatChy

15-07-04, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by X-press
http://www.animations-galore.com/Images/School/teacherboard.gif

I have learned today the following which I ignored yesterday:

~ That the Muslims where the first people to draw the map of the world. They drew the map with the south facing upwards and north downwards. The Kaaba was at the center.

Later, western cartographers drew the map upside down with the north facing upwards and south downwards. Yet, alhamdullilah the Kaaba is still at the center of the world map.

From Why Islam.org (http://www.whyislam.org/877/FAQ/q5.asp)

Did you know about it?

yes- I learnt this at school when i was in my 7th grade:)

CatChy

15-07-04, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by X-press
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I have learned today the following, which I ignored yesterday:

I have learned today... that Adam used to sit on this stone and pray, when he was in heavens. That Allah (God) sent this stone (via the angels) to earth on Adam's fall from paradise.

I have learned today... the black stone was originally white (whiter than milk) when it was sent down from paradise, but that by absorbing the sins of mankind it turned it black!

I have learned today...that on the day of judgement, it will be a witness for those who have gone there for Hajj and Humra.

http://www.englishsabla.com/boy-i/Smilies/alert.gif Did you know about it?

Also Yes :) ..I Like this thread it's really interesting :)

amo_l_oman

15-07-04, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by X-press
Adam used to sit on this stone and pray, when he was in heavens. That Allah (God) sent this stone (via the angels) to earth on Adam's fall from paradise.

I have learned today... the black stone was originally white (whiter than milk) when it was sent down from paradise, but that by absorbing the sins of mankind it turned it black!

Honestly didn't know and while searching on net i just found it as legends coming from the pre-islamic era.
Can you tell us more and give some link?
Thanks :)

Talal

15-07-04, 09:47 PM

A good Thread i may say Lady X Press..

Iv Learned things from School and here too and some of the ABove are things i learned here..:)

ToomuchaT

15-07-04, 09:56 PM

.. gr8 thread XP.. i have came a cross the above mentioned facts and informations...

..insha alah i will update with whatever i learn in each single da..

cheeers:)

shamsery

15-07-04, 10:01 PM

If you can defend till last, then continue, please.
There are many things that can’t be proved but to believe.

Desert_Sloath

15-07-04, 10:27 PM

50 feet high !? this is news for me.

The naration i got about the black stone is :

Once upon a time, a difference between two different families or tribes arosed at the place. Each of the two different 'factions' claimed the 'right' to raise that stone over the platform. The difference was 'only' the 'most noble' family, unlike mine of course, was entitled to raise the stone. Whilst the argument was in progress, The prophet Muhammad (SAW) approached and "the two different factions, elected to take the advice of the prophet whom they called 'Al - Amin' to see what he'd suggest they shd do." To cust the narration short, The prophet suggested that they lay down a, 'ridda'a, a kind of bed sheet on which he placed the stone himself and then asked the party concerned to detail those who'd represent them hold each of the four corners, two from each side, and raised the sheet upon the platform. By doing so both parties were fairly represented. By this illustration, we learn of "unity" or in modern term "alliance" as power :color: no matter how weak the 'united' could be :color:

IF others knew of my representation here, then I find it difficult t-to-to agree with the above "new revelation" which sounds more racism and insensitive. The New Testament about the color of the stone is awful, because not all that is black is sinful. I am black and am goooooooooodly :D a-an-and if the stone is to play a role of "witness" on the judgement day, then what is the role of the guys on "my left and right shoulders" are they redundant ?

:eek:

X_P please provide link: Or is this New Statement from our preachers down town Kar-Kara-Karachi ?

Nocia9600

15-07-04, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by X-press
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I have learned today the following, which I ignored yesterday:

~ I have learned today... This big to tell u the truth it is new to me. Can you provide us with the source we can also learn more please.

I have learned today... that [b]Adam used to sit on this stone and pray, when he was in heavens. That Allah (God) sent this stone (via the angels) to earth on Adam's fall from paradise.

I have learned today... the black stone was originally white (whiter than milk) when it was sent down from paradise, but that by absorbing the sins of mankind it turned it black!

I have learned today...that on the day of judgement, it will be a witness for those who have gone there for Hajj and Humra.

http://www.englishsabla.com/boy-i/Smilies/alert.gif Did you know about it?

The other three I remember I have read about them in a religion book.

shamsery

15-07-04, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Desert_Sloath
The naration i got about the black stone is :

Once upon a time, a difference between two different families or tribes arosed at the place. Each of the two different 'factions' claimed the 'right' to raise that stone over the platform. The difference was 'only' the 'most noble' family, unlike mine of course, was entitled to raise the stone. Whilst the argument was in progress, The prophet Muhammad (SAW) approached and "the two different factions, elected to take the advice of the prophet whom they called 'Al - Amin' to see what he'd suggest they shd do." To cust the narration short, The prophet suggested that they lay down a, 'ridda'a, a kind of bed sheet on which he placed the stone himself and then asked the party concerned to detail those who'd represent them hold each of the four corners, two from each side, and raised the sheet upon the platform. By doing so both parties were fairly represented. By this illustration, we learn of "unity" or in modern term "alliance" as power :color: no matter how weak the 'united' could be :color:

This part of story is fact and supported by Historical evidence.

Scorpio27

16-07-04, 12:20 AM

Very nice Thread Dear XP.
The discussion must be constructive i believe.
No quarrel , no personal attack, LOgic & Logic...

I'll be back soon, i am in bit of trouble for months, i miss u and miss ur discussion..

See u soon

________________________

Yesterday I ignored my creator when i was Happy
Today I learned that he is behind our fate

...........

Tomorrow i better not forget him, but who knows????:scary:

Her XLNC

16-07-04, 12:47 AM

um albanin

16-07-04, 01:50 AM

hello,
both the two issues I knew, the first one was in school, History book If I can recall, & the secound issue is when I started digging further in my faith,

there are certain things that are muslammaat(alghaybiyyat like the sole example) , & others do have a logic explainations.

I am looking forward to see the discussuion between the rest.:angel:

Manta

16-07-04, 10:58 AM

Thanks sister 4 the nice Info.....when I said Sister Express is a good moderator, I am sure I know what I meant! Big Up a.k.a High Five!....... :kewl:

Seham

16-07-04, 11:05 AM

Interesting thread..... however, as for the map ... I think it is a 'relativity concept'.

A good example of relativity is the link given here:

Originally posted by jack
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

As for the Kaaba .... no I didn't know that but I'd like to read further into it first!

Wit Insanity

16-07-04, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by X-press
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I have learned today the following, which I ignored yesterday:

~ I have learned today... that the black stone (hajr-e-aswad) inside the ka'ba is in fact huge: it stands about 50 feet high by about 35 feet wide!

I have learned today... that Adam used to sit on this stone and pray, when he was in heavens. That Allah (God) sent this stone (via the angels) to earth on Adam's fall from paradise.

I have learned today... the black stone was originally white (whiter than milk) when it was sent down from paradise, but that by absorbing the sins of mankind it turned it black!

I have learned today...that on the day of judgement, it will be a witness for those who have gone there for Hajj and Humra.

http://www.englishsabla.com/boy-i/Smilies/alert.gif Did you know about it?

I knew half of the things that you mentioned there :) I didn't know that al hajar al aswad infact extends INTO al kabba. I'm surprised...

That'a a great thread :) I'll hopefully be posting here whenever I discover something that I didn't know :)

Blossom

16-07-04, 12:26 PM

nice thread lady X-press, i will try and contribute some information insha allah.

Angel Eyes

16-07-04, 12:56 PM

Great thread Xpress... definitely learned some facts that i didn't know abt.. thanx!

NaBHaN

16-07-04, 01:26 PM

Brilliant thread Xpress , and I loved that info about the black stone which i didnt fully know about. Keep them comming. :)

Libellula

16-07-04, 03:36 PM

I didn't know half the things posted here. Interesting :) I think this is a really good idea for a thread. Very informative.

X-press

17-07-04, 12:53 AM

I have to sincerely aplogize, as while reading about the black stone, it seems there is one point I really misunderstood: the size of the stone.

Crystalink.com: http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstone.html

The Ka'bah at Mecca describes the shape of the black stone structure on a marble base which stands in the centre court of the Great Mosque, Masjidul Haram, at the centre of Mecca. It stands about 50 feet high by about 35 feet wide. Set into the eastern corner is the sacred stone. This Ka'ba is a cubed shaped temple rebuilt by Abraham and his son Ishmael. Reverently draped in black cloth throughout the year, it beckons to every Muslim of the world to come to its sacred ground.

Correction should be made as it is apparently the Ka'bah which stands about 50 feet high by 35 feet wide not the blake stone itself (which makes more sense).

It seems the stone "consists of three large pieces and some fragments, surrounded by a stone ring and held together with a silver band".

Does anyone knows the dimension of this stone?

X-press

17-07-04, 01:11 AM

X_P please provide link: Or is this New Statement from our preachers down town Kar-Kara-Karachi ?

My new informations regarding the black stone were based on what I have read in this geocities site: http://www.geocities.com/sara1000.geo/images.html

HAJR-E-ASWAD

Its a black stone. It is narrated that Prophet Adam (a.s.) when he was in heavens, he used to sit on this stone and pray. When he was sent down to this earth, the stone started crying. So Allah sent this stone to the eath with him. Angels put it at the place of Kaba. On the day of judgement it will be a witness for those who have gone there for Hajj and Omra.

The Black Stone:

Another Hadith: Tirmizi 98/2:
"It was sent down from Jannah and its color was whiter than milk but sins of sons of Adam has turned it to black."

...and in this other site: http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstone.html

According to popular Islamic legend, the stone was given to Adam on his fall from paradise and was originally white but has become black by absorbing the sins of the thousands of pilgrims who have kissed and touched it.

amo_l_oman

17-07-04, 01:14 AM

Thanks XP, needed link cause i had no knowledge of this and wanted to learn more.
Sloath hun, no wonder they always match me with you :rolleyes:

Dark Project

17-07-04, 04:41 PM

Here is some more information which I thought I could share where it contains some proofs from the bible as well :

The Black Stone is one of the most important things related to the Sacred Mosque. Concerning it, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said: “The Black Stone is the Right Hand of Allah in the land with which He shakes hands with His servants as a man shakes hands with his brothers.” `Umar Ibn Al-Khattab is reported to kiss the Black Stone and say: “I know that you are just a stone that can neither harm nor benefit. Had it not been that I saw the Messenger of Allah kissing you, I would not have done so.” Then, he shed tears.
Now, you have understood the wisdom behind kissing the Black Stone. Someone may say: “It is just a stone, where is the significance then?” We say: “Almighty Allah chooses some of His creatures to be the deposit of the secrets of His Wisdom and the sign of His Power.”
The sun and the moon, though being mere inanimate things, represent many Divine secrets that the whole human life depends on them. This wisdom being represented by the sun and the moon is the same that exists in case of the Black Stone
There is no indication as to where this stone originated, but since it pre-dates the revelation of the Holy Qur'an and Muhammad's prophethood, and even kissed, it must stem from the time of Abraham since the Hajj traditions are traceable to the patriarch of monotheism.
It now consists of three large pieces and some fragments, surrounded by a stone ring and held together with a silver band.
According to popular Islamic legend, the stone was given to Adam on his fall from paradise and was originally white but has become black by absorbing the sins of the thousands of pilgrims who have kissed and touched it.
The Psalms contains a clear reference to it: The stone which the builders refused is become the head-stone of the corner. Ishmael was looked on as being rejected by God, or so the Israelites believed. Yet it was a progeny of Ishmael that the Last Prophet, the 'head-stone of the corner' was to arise.
While David referred to it as the stone which the builders refused, Jesus spoke of it more plainly in the parable of the husbandman, telling the Israelites that the vineyard, which in the parable stands for the Kingdom of God, would be taken away from them and given to other husbandmen.
That by the rejected stone in the prophecy (21:42) was meant a rejected nation (21:43) is made clear by Jesus Christ. That this rejected nation was none other than the Ishmaelites has been borne out by history.
The Black Stone, therefore, passes for the mithaq, the primordial covenant between the Creator and His created. And in the whole world there is only this unhewn stone, the stone, Cut out of the mountains without hands (Daniel 2:45), and that is the corner-stone of a building, which in point of importance, stands unique in the world.

Raed

17-07-04, 07:38 PM

Capricorna

18-07-04, 06:47 PM

Intersting , I never knew that the black stone was white , Thank X-Press
I'll keep on checking on this thread, lots to learn i guess :)

Diva

18-07-04, 09:04 PM

Correction should be made as it is apparently the Ka'bah which stands about 50 feet high by 35 feet wide not the blake stone itself (which makes more sense).

Thanks for clarifying. I was surprised to hear that the stone was that big! I came to realise today that it's actually forbidden for a man to propose to a girl that's already engaged (before her nika7). I always thought that it's something men didn't do out of respect for the other guy and not necessarily for religious reasons.

X-press

21-07-04, 05:40 PM

Diva, indeed I read somewhere that a man is not allowed to propose to a girl who already accepted another marriage proposal. I will have to try to find where it is mentioned and maybe Enigma can help us to find the saying.

X-press

21-07-04, 05:52 PM

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I have learned today the following which I ignored yesterday:

~ That "tradition has it that when God banished Adam and Eve from Paradise, Adam fell on Adam's peak in Serandib and Eve someplace else.

For two hundred years, the parents of mankind fruitlessly searched the earth for each other, alone and despairing, until the angel Gabriel descended and led Adam to Eve.

And it is said that it was on the Mount of Arafat, not far from Mecca, that they were reunited. When Adam came to Mecca, Gabriel with his wing uncovered a foundation on a site exactly below the spot occupied by the divine palace in the seventh heaven known as the Baitul-Ma'mur.

The angels threw blocks on it from Lebanon, the Mount of Olives, Jabal Judi and Hira until the hole was filled level with the earth. God then sent from Paradise a tent of red jacinth in which Adam lived. In what was afterwards to become the Black Stone, a white jacinth from Paradise served as a seat.

God commanded Adam to build the Ka'ba and Gabriel taught him the rites of the pilgrimage. Adam is then said to have taken to performing the circumambulation round the Ka'ba following the example of the angels. Mecca however was without inhabitants and the sanctuary without worshippers. Adam made his feelings known to God and the Almighty promised him that with time, the place would be the site of a cult to which men would make pilgrimage.

In later times, the deluge is said to have washed the building away so that the stone had to be concealed by the angels in Abu Qubais, a mountain to the east of Mecca. All that remained of the Ka'ba was a red mound which was afterwards found by Abraham"

Honnestly, nearly everything above is new to me!
http://www.englishsabla.com/boy-i/Smilies/alert.gif Did you know about it? (I will post the link here after discussion)

X-press

21-07-04, 05:58 PM

http://www.animations-galore.com/Images/School/teacherboard.gif

I have learned today the following which I ignored yesterday:

~ That "tradition has it that when God banished Adam and Eve from Paradise, Adam fell on Adam's peak in Serandib and Eve someplace else.

For two hundred years, the parents of mankind fruitlessly searched the earth for each other, alone and despairing, until the angel Gabriel descended and led Adam to Eve.

And it is said that it was on the Mount of Arafat, not far from Mecca, that they were reunited. When Adam came to Mecca, Gabriel with his wing uncovered a foundation on a site exactly below the spot occupied by the divine palace in the seventh heaven known as the Baitul-Ma'mur.

The angels threw blocks on it from Lebanon, the Mount of Olives, Jabal Judi and Hira until the hole was filled level with the earth. God then sent from Paradise a tent of red jacinth in which Adam lived. In what was afterwards to become the Black Stone, a white jacinth from Paradise served as a seat.

God commanded Adam to build the Ka'ba and Gabriel taught him the rites of the pilgrimage. Adam is then said to have taken to performing the circumambulation round the Ka'ba following the example of the angels. Mecca however was without inhabitants and the sanctuary without worshippers. Adam made his feelings known to God and the Almighty promised him that with time, the place would be the site of a cult to which men would make pilgrimage.

In later times, the deluge is said to have washed the building away so that the stone had to be concealed by the angels in Abu Qubais, a mountain to the east of Mecca. All that remained of the Ka'ba was a red mound which was afterwards found by Abraham"[/size]

http://www.englishsabla.com/boy-i/Smilies/alert.gif [color=darkred]Did you know about it? (I will post the link after discussion)

CrazyReD

10-08-04, 09:07 AM

Once upon a time, a difference between two different families or tribes arosed at the place. Each of the two different 'factions' claimed the 'right' to raise that stone over the platform. The difference was 'only' the 'most noble' family, unlike mine of course, was entitled to raise the stone. Whilst the argument was in progress, The prophet Muhammad (SAW) approached and "the two different factions, elected to take the advice of the prophet whom they called 'Al - Amin' to see what he'd suggest they shd do." To cust the narration short, The prophet suggested that they lay down a, 'ridda'a, a kind of bed sheet on which he placed the stone himself and then asked the party concerned to detail those who'd represent them hold each of the four corners, two from each side, and raised the sheet upon the platform. By doing so both parties were fairly represented. By this illustration, we learn of "unity" or in modern term "alliance" as power no matter how weak the 'united' could be

that was during the era of the probhet mohammed but the blackstone existed way b4 regarding the information yeah school taught us that hehe

X-press

20-10-04, 12:01 AM

The purpose of this thread is to post something you have learn today about Islam and which you ignored completly yesterday.

This thread is for those who learned something new today and want to share it, and this even it is a very small information which will not necessarily lead to a long or heavy discussion.

~ 1) I have learned today that, though a great majority of Sunni perform the Taraweeh prayer every evening after Isha prayer during Ramadan, the Shia Muslims don't.

~ 2) I have learned today that not only Taraweeh is not mentioned in the Holy Qur'an, it was not done by the Prophet in his lifetime!

There is an hadeeth in Bukhari (and in other books too) that Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) did special NAFL prayers in the middle of the night. This Hadeeth is about NAMAZ-E-SHAB also known as TAHAJJUD. It is this prayer which is eleven raka't that is done in the middle of the night and it is not specific to Ramadan. It is done or can be done all year round.

~ 3) I have learned today that, even though the Shia do not do Taraweeh, they are supposed to perform an extra 1000 rakat of supererogatory prayer during the month of Ramadan!

Did you know about it?

Wit Insanity

20-10-04, 12:43 AM

And it is said that it was on the Mount of Arafat, not far from Mecca, that they were reunited. When Adam came to Mecca, Gabriel with his wing uncovered a foundation on a site exactly below the spot occupied by the divine palace in the seventh heaven known as the Baitul-Ma'mur.

A personally photographed photo of Mount of Arafat (I think it was called differently, it is not exactly the mount of arafat, it was somewhere close to it called Mount of Al nour I think.). Anyway, this is a photo I took of that place the last time I went to Omrah :)

Wit Insanity

20-10-04, 12:47 AM

~ 1) I have learned today that, though a great majority of Sunni perform the Taraweeh prayer every evening after Isha prayer during Ramadan, the Shia Muslims don't.

~ 2) I have learned today that not only Taraweeh is not mentioned in the Holy Qur'an, it was not done by the Prophet in his lifetime!

There is an hadeeth in Bukhari (and in other books too) that Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) did special NAFL prayers in the middle of the night. This Hadeeth is about NAMAZ-E-SHAB also known as TAHAJJUD. It is this prayer which is eleven raka't that is done in the middle of the night and it is not specific to Ramadan. It is done or can be done all year round.

~ 3) I have learned today that, even though the Shia do not do Taraweeh, they are supposed to perform an extra 1000 rakat of supererogatory prayer during the month of Ramadan!

Did you know about it?
XP, are you sure that Al-Traweeh wasn't there during prophet mohammad's (peace upon him) lifetime? as far as I know, it WAS there. But it was only 8 rek'as, not 20 as some mosques do now. The 20 rek'as came from Omar Al-Khatab, if I can remember accurately.