This topic is inspired by a book by Allan & Barbara Pease:

Apparently, people who were found to be high achievers (male or female) had higher testosterone levels than the average person. Its reported that 'not only does testosterone lead to high levels of achievement, but achievement causes more testosterone to be produced' (quoted from the book). Also, in animals, the male animals who ruled were found to have to have the highest testosterone levels.

So basically, claiming high chairs in the workfield has always been an outlet for testosterone. But now we have women coming into the workplace and replacing men in many industries, so we lack ways to channel the male testosterone.

The book says: "There is a growing focus on muscular male physique in popular culture, a boom in crass men's magazines and an explosion in violent computer games. This is known as cultural displacement and this happens when the power of testosterone is ignored or attacked, so it re-emerges in cruder, less social forms."

I, guiltily, have been one of those to attack men for the way they are only to realise that this is their nature, whether women like it or not men NEED this as not only an outlet but to give them a feeling of superiority. And that's not bad... its just their nature.

So, what do you think about this so called 'cultural displacement' and what are some suggestions you might have to help the situation?

Originally posted by Enigma
Apparently, people who were found to be high achievers (male or female) had higher testosterone levels than the average person. Its reported that 'not only does testosterone lead to high levels of achievement, but achievement causes more testosterone to be produced' (quoted from the book).


I don't agree with above statment, I don't see any relation between high achivers or leaders and the level of testosterone. I agree the environment could help people who are in such positions compared to others who lack such surrounding.


Also, in animals, the male animals who ruled were found to have to have the highest testosterone levels.

In animas world the factor is "power" and noting to do with what you stated. A more powerful lion will rule others for example in a territory. Didn't you hear about rule of the jungle which the US also practicing in the ME also.


So basically, claiming high chairs in the workfield has always been an outlet for testosterone. But now we have women coming into the workplace and replacing men in many industries, so we lack ways to channel the male testosterone.


A woman will remain a woman even if she reach the moon.


It seems you are becoming more and more anti-men from your threads now aday, don't forget that you will have a husband tomorrow :D

My advise to those men who have higher higher testosterone levels or as it's called in arabic "al shabaq al gensi" is to marry more than a wife and open the valve :laugh: :sweat:

:rolleyes:

Good ole' Icey ... don't believe the evidence if it conflicts with you prejudices...

Amo is 100% correct in the effect of testosterone on psyche and behavior. There's a large body of scientific literature exploring it- it's fascinating actually.

I think that there must BE an outlet, but prefer that it be one that SAFELY vents the aggression without creating attitudes that make it seem permissible to take it into real life... not sure how that's done though!

Well, I dont know. All I know is that I know a lot of testosterone-pumped males, and they are jackarses, the lot of them (excuse my french).

They also say that testosterone pumped ppl have big noses...but then again i dont know if thats a physical thing or a personality wise thing :p

But anyways, back to the main point of this discussion.
I think if we turn the hands of time back to the stone age and see how cave men lived (apparently) they took control of their women by dragging them around (well, ordering them around and being very rough with them)...

...hence, i think its time that women beefed themselves up and stood up against guys no matter what.

I'm a guy, and this is scary saying this, but hey, if a succesful woman wants to keep her position in her field, shes gonna have to prove that shes liable of keeping her position - dont LET GUYS who are JACKA$ses push you AROUND!

Dude, I have a big nose and a receding hairline (not receding really, but a large forehead which goes hand in hand with one of Enigma's other posts around).

Freaky ... testosterone pumped male and climbing the achievement ladder. Watch out for this space, for the next 5-10 years and I'll let y'all know! :D