The World of The Noble Angels ~ (Fill the empty space)

[X-press]

The translator of Umar S.Al-Ashqar's book "The world of the Noble Angels" wrote the following:


"Belief in the Unseen (Al-Ghayb) is one of the basic tenets of Islam, and forms an important part of Islamic teachings. One fo the unseen worlds of which Islam tells us is the world of the angels, who are described in great detail in the Quran and Sunnah and who are involved with man throughout his life.

From the moment an individual is conceived in his mother's womb, until his death and beyond, angels play a role in human life...



As a human mind is not able on its own to learn about angels and human senses are unable to see or hear the angels, I hope this thread will give you a stronger and firmer knowledge about these Unseen Creatures.

[X-press]

In the Light of the Quran and Sunnah, please try to fill the empty spaces in the following 5 sentences:


1) Angels were created from .............

2) The angels were created ............. Adam (the father of mankind).

3) Because angels have bodies of ............. which are of a .............
density, mankind cannot see them.

4) No one among this nation (ummah) has seen the angels in their true form apart from ............. (pbuh).

5) Human beings were able to see the angels when the angels appeared in ............. form only.



Let's see who has more knowledge among you and more sentence will come soon... :blush:

[Vamp]

1) Angels were created from light

2) The angels were created before? :lost: Adam (the father of mankind).

3) Because angels have bodies of .....:blush: ........ which are of a ......:blush: ....... density, mankind cannot see them.

4) No one among this nation (ummah) has seen the angels in their true form apart from Prophet Mohamed(pbuh).

5) Human beings were able to see the angels when the angels appeared in human form only.

:scratch:

[Cetacea]

Originally posted by X-press
3) Because angels have bodies of air?? which are of an air
density, mankind cannot see them.


And this is what I really think:
1) Angels were created from human imagination

2) The angels were created to confuse Adam (the father of mankind).

3) Because angels have bodies of neutron stars which are of a black hole density, mankind cannot see them.

4) No one among this nation (ummah) has seen the angels in their true form apart from people who were schizophrenic

5) Human beings were able to see the angels when the angels appeared in handsome guys in dishdashas and massars only. ;)

:angel:

[Raed]

Dear Cetacea,

If this was your idea of sense of humor, Need I to inform you that making fun of other's belief is what many consider to be tasteless humor? However, if there was someone holding a gun threatening to blow your head, which came up with these answers, then yes I would excuse such stuff.

If you were a non Muslim, then I have no clue of why you are answering it! Especially that it is an Islamic Sabla dedicated to inform and discuss issues that concern Muslims. You are by God, if you believe in one, free to read and post at this side of the forum for I understand that this is a free forum. But freedom can turn into chaos if we do not respect each other's belief, opinions or race. Don’t you agree?

[Raed]

Now where was I? :scratch:

1) Angels were created from light.

2) The angels were created before Adam (the father of mankind).

3) Because angels have bodies of light which are of a "cannot say as it would be unscientific to state their density's condition without examining one, and as far as I know there was not a Lab able to get their hands on one."

density, mankind cannot see them.

4) No one among this nation (ummah) has seen the angels in their true form apart from ............. (pbuh).

This statement is not accurate enough. read Abdullah Bn Abbas's bio "most knowledgeable scholar in this Ummah" (cousin of the prophet –Peace Be Upon Him- as he was raised in the house of prophecy and once got into a room when the prophet –Peace Be Upon Him- was talking in the air to someone and Abdullah was shocked looking at the direction of were Gabriel was located.

The Prophet –Peace Be Upon Him- asked then :" Do U see him?" Then Abdullah said : " Yes I do.." , you can only imagine how shocked he would be!,
then the prophet –Peace Be Upon Him- said " Then it is foretold that you shall be blind at the end of your life"

Indeed Abdullah got blind towards the end of his life and when the doctors told him that his medication requires him not to make "sjood" during his prayer , mind you he could have gone with what the doctors asked of him and that would have been okay from an Islamic point of view as he was aware of it, but he said " What good is my life if a day passes without my forehead bowing to Allah? His end is a remarkable one told by those who witnessed his funeral. *

5) Human beings were able to see the angels when the angels appeared in ............. form only. I think the answer that you are looking for is mentioned in Quran æóáóæú ÌóÚóáúäóÇåõ ãóáóßÇð áøóÌóÚóáúäóÇåõ ÑóÌõáÇð æóáóáóÈóÓúäóÇ Úóáóíúåöã ãøóÇ íóáúÈöÓõæäó (9)

If We had made it an angel, We should have sent him as a man, and We should certainly have caused them confusion in a matter which they have already covered with confusion.


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* The words of the prophet are told by the meanings, since I have a lousy memory "may Allah forgive my weaknesses "

[Cetacea]

Originally posted by Raed
However, if there was someone holding a gun threatening to blow your head, which came up with these answers, then yes I would excuse such stuff.
I’m pretty sure it was shaytan who made me answer those questions. :shoot:


Originally posted by Raed
If you were a non Muslim, then I have no clue of why you are answering it!
Only Muslims can answer these questions? I didn’t know that.


Originally posted by Raed
But freedom can turn into chaos if we do not respect each other's belief, opinions or race. Don’t you agree?
I didn’t mean to offend you and if I did, I apologize. I simply stated my belief and I hope you respect mine. By the way, I still think the answer to the second part of question #3 is air.

[Raed]

Only Muslims can answer these questions? I didn’t know that.

If this matter was to be discussed by other religions am sure X-press was wise enough to post it at the religion Sabla. However, it seems she only was seeking Islamic prospective to the matter.

As for the shaitan coming over you, well lets not blame Lucifer! :6: .. some people are just Screwed up :rolleyes:

Scientifically some of the answers you have mentioned are wrong by the way Hint: think black holes! :angel:

[X-press]

Originally posted by Cetacea
Only Muslims can answer these questions? I didn’t know that.


Cetacea, you are free to answer my questions IF you do know the islamic view of it. I agree with Raed that this thread is meant to be educative and I honnestly wouldn't like it to turn into some kind of a joke.

If the answers based on the Quran and Sunnah, then you and any non-muslims are free to comment about the replies here or ask respectable questions ;).

[X-press]

DeepBlueSea, according to my knowledges, you were right for all the sentences, except #3 which you didn't answer


3) Because angels have bodies of light which are of a low density, mankind cannot see them.



Raed, you said: "it would be unscientific to state their density's condition without examining one, and as far as I know there was not a Lab able to get their hands on one"...

To this I will answer by saying that not everything excisting in this life has to be proven via a scientific explaination by men or it means that it is not there.

Allah has told us that angels were created of light and this light is probably not the light men know. Until now, to my knowledge this light was never scientifically proven by any men, nor the smokeless fire which makes the jinns.

Should we conclude that we, men know better what is in the universe, simply because our mind or scientic tools are not yet capable to detect such creations?

[Raed]

Originally posted by X-press


Allah has told us that angels were created of light and this light is probably not the light men know. [/B]

"Probably"

My mind has limits, this is where I go: "He said it, I believe it and that settles it

I do not worry myself with trying to enforce physics law such as density to a world that I know nothing about, and may as well never follow such laws. We do not know what goes beyond a black hole, and it is here with us so mind you a different domain.. I hope you get the picture"

[X-press]

Thanks Raed for your participation here and I hope more muslim members will make the same effort too...;)

Here are the answers of the first 5 sentences:



1) Angels were created from light

2) The angels were created before Adam (the father of mankind).

3) Because angels have bodies of light which are of a low density, mankind cannot see them.

4) No one among this nation (ummah) has seen the angels in their true form apart from Prophet Mohammed (pbuh).

5) Human beings were able to see the angels when the angels appeared in human form only.

[X-press]

In the Light of the Quran and Sunnah, please try to fill the empty spaces in the following 5 sentences:




6) Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) stated that Jibreel has ............. wings. (Write a number)

7) When it comes to their physical shape and status, the angels ............. the same.

8) Angels ............. described as being male or female.

9) Angels ............. eat or drink the type of food we (humans) eat and drink, and they ............. get married.

10) The dwelling-place of the angel is in .............

[Cetacea]

Originally posted by X-press
6) Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) stated that Jibreel has 600 wings. (Write a number)

7) When it comes to their physical shape and status, the angels are not the same.

8) Angels are never described as being male or female.

9) Angels do not eat or drink the type of food we (humans) eat and drink, and they never get married.

10) The dwelling-place of the angel is in heaven

[Raed]

Originally posted by X-press
In the Light of the Quran and Sunnah, please try to fill the empty spaces in the following 5 sentences:
10-The dwelling-place of the angel is in .............



hmm.. It depends... Hellfire "chief of staff " is called Malik the following verses mention him being cruel in the hell fire:

Åöäøó ÇáúãõÌúÑöãöíäó Ýöí ÚóÐóÇÈö Ìóåóäøóãó ÎóÇáöÏõæäó (74) áóÇ íõÝóÊøóÑõ Úóäúåõãú æóåõãú Ýöíåö ãõÈúáöÓõæäó (75) æóãóÇ ÙóáóãúäóÇåõãú æóáóßöä ßóÇäõæÇ åõãõ ÇáÙøóÇáöãöíäó (76) æóäóÇÏóæúÇ íóÇ ãóÇáößõ áöíóÞúÖö ÚóáóíúäóÇ ÑóÈøõßó ÞóÇáó Åöäøóßõã ãøóÇßöËõæäó (77) áóÞóÏú ÌöÆúäóÇßõã ÈöÇáúÍóÞøö æóáóßöäøó ÃóßúËóÑóßõãú áöáúÍóÞøö ßóÇÑöåõæäó (78)

Yusuf Ali :

Ayah 74

The sinners will be in the Punishment of Hell, to dwell therein (for aye):

Ayah 75
Nowise will the (Punishment) be lightened for them, and in despair will they be there overwhelmed.

Ayah 76
Nowise shall We be unjust to them: but it is they who have been unjust themselves.

Ayah 77

They will cry: "O Malik! would that thy Lord put an end to us!" He will say, "Nay, but ye shall abide!"

Ayah 78

Verily We have brought the Truth to you: but most of you have a hatred for Truth.

He is not in heaven obviously. Other examples include angels praying all over the skies, Angel of thunder and lightening and many more. Each has a duty to fulfill. Regardless of where they are placed. [/i]

[X-press]

Thanks Cetacea for giving all the correct answers and I hope you will continue checking this thread, so you might learn something new about the islamic teachings...in case you can't fill some of the empty space to come :).

Raed, I enjoy you twisting my arm here and there ;) and your replies are very challenging, I have to admit.



10) The dwelling-place of the angels is in heaven.



I should not have used the singular here, but say "angels instead. Raed, it is my understanding again from my readings that angels do have their 'home' in Heaven, but that this doesn't mean that they do not move outside this location.

{To understand this, it is as if you have your home in one particular area of the city, but this doesn't prevent you from moving outside its boundaries. You going 'downtown' doesn't mean that you live "downtown".}

It is true that Allah command some of them to do certain specific actions in the sky (exp: moving the clouds) and on the earth among men (exp: sending blessing in their home, taking their soul ect). This shows that there is indeed a movement of some angels. However it is my understanding that angels resides in heaven. Let's not forget that 70,000 angels enters each day the kibla in the highest heaven, go out and never reinter it, while another 70,000 angels to the same...

[Raed]

Originally posted by X-press

Raed, I enjoy you twisting my arm here and there ;) and your replies are very challenging, I have to admit.



I try my best ... but you are one strong lady !

Yeah the place that you are referring to, where70 thou coming doing their pilgrimage once in their lifetime, is called " al bait al ma'moor” is located at the seventh sky.

æóÇáØøõæÑö (1) æóßöÊóÇÈò ãøóÓúØõæÑò (2) Ýöí ÑóÞøò ãøóäÔõæÑò (3) æóÇáúÈóíúÊö ÇáúãóÚúãõæÑö (4) æóÇáÓøóÞúÝö ÇáúãóÑúÝõæÚö (5) æóÇáúÈóÍúÑö ÇáúãóÓúÌõæÑö (6)

it is mentioned in the following verse:


Yusuf Ali :
Ayah 1
By the Mount (of Revelation);
Ayah 2
By a Decree inscribed
Ayah 3
In a Scroll unfolded;
Ayah 4
By the much-frequented Fane;
Ayah 5
By the Canopy Raised High;
Ayah 6
And by the Ocean filled with Swell;-



my head spins as I try to picture the fact that AL ka'ba and al bait al ma'moor are aligned .. and when you start thinking about the whole thing... again its beyond my comprehension.


However my friend... it is where they go... Their home.. being up there.. hmmm :scratch:

Moving along.

[X-press]

I really hope more members, especially the muslim ones, will make an effort to participate here and post any questions which cross their mind regarding this topic.

For the time being, here are more sentences to fill:


11) The angels ............. Allah and they never ............. HIM.

12) ............. is the angel who will blow the Trumpet on the Judgment Day.

13) ............. is the keeper of Hell.

14) ............. is the Angel of Death.

15) There are ............. (write a number) angels who are always present and witnessing, who are never away from a person. Some scholars mentioned that they are called .......................... (write their names according to their number), but it does not mean that these are the names of these angels.

[Soulless]

12) IsraFeel is the angel who will blow the Trumpet on the Judgment Day.

13) Malek is the keeper of Hell.

14) Ezraeel is the Angel of Death.



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im not so sure about it ..

15) There are 2 (write a number) angels who are always present and witnessing, who are never away from a person. Some scholars mentioned that they are called Raqeeb and Ateed (write their names according to their number), but it does not mean that these are the names of these angels.

[Cetacea]

11) The angels serve Allah and they never disobey HIM.

[Guwantanamist]

Nice thread Press .... Its good to refresh our memories :)




11) The angels Pray to Allah and they never Dis-obayHIM.

Åöäøó ÇáøóÐöíäó ÚöäÏó ÑóÈøößó áÇó íóÓúÊóßúÈöÑõæäó Úóäú ÚöÈóÇÏóÊöåö æóíõÓóÈøöÍõæäóåõ æóáóåõ íóÓúÌõÏõæäó
SHAKIR: Surely those who are with your Lord are not too proud to serve Him, and they declare His glory and prostrate in humility before Him.


15) There are Two (write a number) angels who are always present and witnessing, who are never away from a person. Some scholars mentioned that they are called Raqeeb & Ateed write their names according to their number), but it does not mean that these are the names of these angels.
ãóÇ íóáúÝöÙõ ãöä Þóæúáò ÅöáøóÇ áóÏóíúåö ÑóÞöíÈñ ÚóÊöíÏñ
SHAKIR: He utters not a word but there is by him a watcher at hand.

But this I found is not true (you can clearly see it from the english translation). I got this info from Thilal Al-Quran the interpretation by Sayyid Qutb.

[Raed]

Xp…. Got ya! :6:

Am sorry to bore yall with all these comments of mine.. I just like to pick on XP every now and then :gap:

Names of angels:

It is interesting that many angels’ names consist of two-part Blah EL. The web definition of the word EL is as follows: The Semitic word for God, found alone or compounded with other terms as names of God (El Shaddai, El Elyon, etc.); often found as the theophoric element in personal and place names (Elijah, Bethel, etc.).

In the bible the name Emanuel- shows up twice (I can use someone correction over here)
Which stands for: God with us ; which could be debated a bit, but this ain’t the time.



Some of the names mentioned are,

Gabriel
Israfiel
Michael

Some Muslim scholars have suggested however that El= means ABD (slave) so Gabriel’s name translated to Arabic would be AbduAlrahman.

Having said that there are some angels name in the Quran :

ãóä ßóÇäó ÚóÏõæøÇð áøöáøåö æóãóáÂÆößóÊöåö æóÑõÓõáöåö æóÌöÈúÑöíáó æóãöíßóÇáó ÝóÅöäøó Çááøåó ÚóÏõæøñ áøöáúßóÇÝöÑöíäó (98)


Ayah 98
Yusuf Ali Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and apostles, to Gabriel and Michael,- Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith.


Þõáú íóÊóæóÝøóÇßõã ãøóáóßõ ÇáúãóæúÊö ÇáøóÐöí æõßøöáó Èößõãú Ëõãøó Åöáóì ÑóÈøößõãú ÊõÑúÌóÚõæäó (11)


Yusuf Ali Say: "The Angel of Death, put in charge of you, will (duly) take your souls: then shall ye be brought back to your Lord."


æóãóÇ ÃõäÒöáó Úóáóì Çáúãóáóßóíúäö ÈöÈóÇÈöáó åóÇÑõæÊó æóãóÇÑõæÊó

and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut.

Malik was mentioned above so ...

“the angel of Death” :

One of the most powerful angels, why he was assigned to this task shows his discipline and yet how he responded when he was assigned shows how much of an angel he is*. The last to die, and undergoes the most painful severe death. Screams in pain that if there was anyone besides him and Allah when he does they would have died hearing him.

The name IzraEl is very popular among people, But in the holy Quran he is referred to as the angel of death and that is the case in hadeeth as well. How did the name IzraEl get to us? Well it is among Israelites and thus could not be taken as a proof. Some scholars mentioned that the translation of Izrael is ABduljabar.

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* these are based on Hadeeth’s that I am not sure of authenticity-wise.

[Soulless]

Hey Raed ..

Tell about the Story of The Two Angels Haroot and Maroot ??


æóãóÇ ÃõäÒöáó Úóáóì Çáúãóáóßóíúäö ÈöÈóÇÈöáó åóÇÑõæÊó æóãóÇÑõæÊó

i know the story but i dont know how to say it in english ..

So pleas try to inform us about the story of those Two Angels :)

[X-press]

11) The angels worship Allah and they never disobey HIM.

12) Israfeel is the angel who will blow the Trumpet on the Judgment Day.

13) Maalik is the keeper of Hell.

14) Azraa'eel is the Angel of Death.

15) There are two angels who are always present and witnessing, who are never away from a person. Some scholars mentioned that they are called Raqeeb and Ateed, but it does not mean that these are the names of these angels.



I am very happy to see Metal Priest and Gwanta joining the group and I really hope we will continue to learn from each other throughout this thread.

Metal Priest, you were right for all the sentences and Cetacea for the 1st one. Both words "serve" or "pray" are correct, eventhough I had more in mind the word "worship".

Gwanta, you got everything right (mashallah!), but I didn't quiet understand what you meant when you said:
"But this I found is not true (you can clearly see it from the english translation)"
...what is not true?

[X-press]

Originally posted by Raed
It is interesting that many angels’ names consist of two-part Blah EL. The web definition of the word EL is as follows: The Semitic word for God,

Very interesting Raed as I never realized that many angels had their names starting or ending with "EL". So it seems that the muslims scholars do not really define these two letters as "God" but more as "Slave", which could make more sense as the angels are indeed slaves of God and nothing more than that.

I do not understand why you wrote that the Arabic translation of Gabriel is AbduAlrahman...???, as I thought Gabriel was the original name of this angel who has brought the Quran down to our heart.

Originally posted by Raed
The name IzraEl is very popular among people, But in the holy Quran he is referred to as the angel of death and that is the case in hadeeth as well. How did the name IzraEl get to us?

Azraa'eel or Israeel is indeed the name of the angel of death and with all what is happening with the country "Israel" and the continuous killing it inflicts on other people, I am wandering if there is not another connection here...;)

[Guwantanamist]

Gwanta, you got everything right (mashallah!), but I didn't quiet understand what you meant when you said:
"But this I found is not true (you can clearly see it from the english translation)"
...what is not true? [/size][/B]


What I meant is that Raqeeb and Ateed are not names, but are words that mean " watcher at hand."
Some scholars used to say that these two words in arabic are the names of the two angles, but as i have just mentioned this is not true. :)

[Raed]

Originally posted by X-press
[B] Azraa'eel or Israeel[/color] is indeed the name of the angel of death

In the world of human, we have whats called birth certificate and in there with the passport one's name is written. However, that was not the case with the angel of death his name remained a mystery for a reason Allah chose to be.so just cause people call him that, it does not mean that its necessarily his name.

so XP Come forth with your proof from Quran or Sunnah :6:

Metal. That would take me time... and going back to my old books, to make sure that what I remember is what took place.. There are three story lines that scholars argued over. but yeah I will do.

[X-press]

Originally posted by Guwantanamist
What I meant is that Raqeeb and Ateed are not names, but are words that mean " watcher at hand."
Some scholars used to say that these two words in arabic are the names of the two angles, but as i have just mentioned this is not true. :)

Some scholars mentioned that among the angels are two called Raqeeb and Ateed based on the following aayah:


[17] Behold, that the two receivers [recording angels] receive [each human being], one sitting on the right and one on the left [to note his or her actions.]

[18] Not a word does he [or she] utter but there is a watcher [raqeeb] by him, ready ['ateeb] to record it.



What they mentioned is not correct. The words 'raqeeb' (watcher) and 'ateed' (ready) here are adjective describing the two angels who are always present and witnessing.

You are right Guwanta, that Raqeeb means "watcher" and Ateed means "ready", but if you read my post above you will see that I clearly stated that "it does not mean that these are the names of these angels.". Conclusion, you and me agree on the same thing ;).

[IceTea]

I also agree that "raqeeb" and "ateed" are not the names of the angels.

Interesting thread Exy :).

[X-press]

Originally posted by Raed
...the angel of death his name remained a mystery for a reason Allah chose to be.so just cause people call him that, it does not mean that its necessarily his name.

Raed, you are also right and I thank you for adding this comment to my sentence which avoided going into depth, but only reflects how people called the Angel of Death.

According to some reports which may be from among the Israa’eeliyyaat (reports from Jewish sources), that Angel of Death is called Azraa'eel. However, it seems there is no finding of this name mentioned in the Quran or in the saheed hadith.

Even if some muslims calls the Angel of Death "Azraa'eel, as we are not sure that it is indeed his name, it is better to call him by the name Allah gave him which is "Angel of Death".



[32:11] The angel of death, who is set over you, will take your souls. Then you shall be brought to your Lord”.

[X-press]

Originally posted by IceTea
Interesting thread Exy :).

Thanks Icy, but with Raed around the corner, I really have to be careful with all my posts...I simply love his challenges ;).

If this thread continue (inshallah) to go well, I thought it would be nice for me to print it and save it for my children and grand-children...in case they are too lazy to read religious books or search such topic on the net.



16) When the Trumpet will be blown, humans, jinn and angels will ............. except for those whom Allah wills.

17) Allah sent Jibraeel (Angel Gabriel) to Maryam (Mary) in ............. form.

18) The angels came to the Prophet Loot (Lot) in the form of .............

19) Jibreel (Angel Gabriel) used to come to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) in ............. forms.

20) What Allah teaches the angels is far more than what man knows. Among the knowledge that they have been given is the knowledge of .............



Icy and Read, I am sure you will be able to fill these sentences above. I have to be honnest and say that I have learned some answers from my readings and there are many things which I ignored and still do....

[IceTea]

16) When the Trumpet will be blown, humans, jinn and angels will .die. except for those whom Allah wills.

17) Allah sent Jibraeel (Angel Gabriel) to Maryam (Mary) in human being form.

18) The angels came to the Prophet Loot (Lot) in the form of messangers from Allah

19) Jibreel (Angel Gabriel) used to come to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) in man forms.

20) What Allah teaches the angels is far more than what man knows. Among the knowledge that they have been given is the knowledge of .............(not sure about this).

[Cetacea]

20) What Allah teaches the angels is far more than what man knows. Among the knowledge that they have been given is the knowledge of the unseen(ilm al ghaib)

[IceTea]

Originally posted by Cetacea
20) What Allah teaches the angels is far more than what man knows. Among the knowledge that they have been given is the knowledge of the unseen(ilm al ghaib)

It's only Allah who knows "ilm al ghaib".

[2:30]And when your Lord said to the angels, I am going to place in the earth a khalif, they said: What! wilt Thou place in it such as shall make mischief in it and shed blood, and we celebrate Thy praise and extol Thy holiness? He said: Surely I know what you do not know.

[2:31]And He taught Adam all the names, then presented them to the angels; then He said: Tell me the names of those if you are right.

[2:32]They said: Glory be to Thee! we have no knowledge but that which Thou hast taught us; surely Thou art the Knowing, the Wise.

[2:33]He said: O Adam! inform them of their names. Then when he had informed them of their names, He said: Did I not say to you that I surely know what is ghaib in the heavens and the earth and (that) I know what you manifest and what you hide?

[Raed]

XP two words for you : lower expectation..

16) When the Trumpet will be blown, humans, jinn and angels will ............. except for those whom Allah wills.

æóäõÝöÎó Ýöí ÇáÕøõæÑö ÝóÕóÚöÞó ãóä Ýöí ÇáÓøóãóÇæóÇÊö æóãóä Ýöí ÇáúÃóÑúÖö ÅöáøóÇ ãóä ÔóÇÁ Çááøóåõ Ëõãøó äõÝöÎó Ýöíåö ÃõÎúÑóì ÝóÅöÐóÇ åõã ÞöíóÇãñ íóäÙõÑõæäó (68)

The Trumpet will (just) be sounded, when all that are in the heavens and on earth will swoon, except such as it will please Allah (to exempt). Then will a second one be sounded, when, behold, they will be standing and looking on!

It was debated if concubines and servants in heaven are going to be part of those who die. Ibn al Jawzi stated that the last five are: Allah almighty, Gabriel, Michael, Israfeel, and the Death angel.

Then Allah orders the Death angel to pull Israfeel’s soul and the death angel comes back to Allah and Allah asks : who has remained?

“Gabriel, Michael, myself and you to never die “ The death angel replies

Then Michael is dead, then Gabriel with the same plot taking place.. The moving part is yet to come when Allah says “ Who has remained?” “Myself , and you my lord to remain forever and never die”
Then Allah says:” You know why I have created you, and your time has come to” then Allah orders him to take his own soul.. and the death angel screams in pain, that if anyone was to hear him they would die.

Then Allah asks and based on this verse : íóæúãó åõã ÈóÇÑöÒõæäó áóÇ íóÎúÝóì Úóáóì Çááøóåö ãöäúåõãú ÔóíúÁñ áøöãóäö Çáúãõáúßõ Çáúíóæúãó áöáøóåö ÇáúæóÇÍöÏö ÇáúÞóåøóÇÑö

The Day whereon they will (all) come forth: not a single thing concerning them is hidden from Allah. Whose will be the dominion that Day?" That of Allah, the One the Irresistible!

Whose will be the domination that day ? three times with no one answering.. Then he says “That of Allah” then resurrection begins and Day of Judgment starts.

17) Allah sent Jibraeel (Angel Gabriel) to Maryam (Mary) in ............. form.

ÝóÇÊøóÎóÐóÊú ãöä Ïõæäöåöãú ÍöÌóÇÈÇð ÝóÃóÑúÓóáúäóÇ ÅöáóíúåóÇ ÑõæÍóäóÇ ÝóÊóãóËøóáó áóåóÇ ÈóÔóÑÇð ÓóæöíøÇð (17)

She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.

18) The angels came to the Prophet Loot (Lot) in the form of .............

æóáóãøóÇ ÌóÇÁÊú ÑõÓõáõäóÇ áõæØÇð ÓöíÁó Èöåöãú æóÖóÇÞó Èöåöãú ÐóÑúÚÇð æóÞóÇáó åóÜÐóÇ íóæúãñ ÚóÕöíÈñ (77) æóÌóÇÁåõ Þóæúãõåõ íõåúÑóÚõæäó Åöáóíúåö æóãöä ÞóÈúáõ ßóÇäõæÇú íóÚúãóáõæäó ÇáÓøóíøöÆóÇÊö ÞóÇáó íóÇ Þóæúãö åóÜÄõáÇÁ ÈóäóÇÊöí åõäøó ÃóØúåóÑõ áóßõãú ÝóÇÊøóÞõæÇú Çááøåó æóáÇó ÊõÎúÒõæäö Ýöí ÖóíúÝöí ÃóáóíúÓó ãöäßõãú ÑóÌõáñ ÑøóÔöíÏñ (78) ÞóÇáõæÇú áóÞóÏú ÚóáöãúÊó ãóÇ áóäóÇ Ýöí ÈóäóÇÊößó ãöäú ÍóÞøò æóÅöäøóßó áóÊóÚúáóãõ ãóÇ äõÑöíÏõ (79)

When Our messengers came to Lut, he was grieved on their account and felt himself powerless (to protect) them. He said: "This is a distressful day."
Ayah 78
Yusuf Ali And his people came rushing towards him, and they had been long in the habit of practising abominations. He said: "O my people! Here are my daughters: they are purer for you (if ye marry)! Now fear Allah, and cover me not with shame about my guests! Is there not among you a single right-minded man?"
Ayah 79
Yusuf Ali They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!"
Ayah 80


it is derived from the context of the verses that they were seen as normal human beings, and many Quran interpreters have suggested that they came in the form of handsome young men.


19) Jibreel (Angel Gabriel) used to come to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) in ............. forms.

GOT YOU ICEY LOL (I like to make this bit interesting) MANY is the right answer.. ICEY man I am disappointed.. lol ( I am just messing with you man, and I like it ) lol

20) What Allah teaches the angels is far more than what man knows. Among the knowledge that they have been given is the knowledge of .............

Allah’s sacred name?

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Originally posted by Raed
XP two words for you : lower expectation..

:lost:...why did you say that Raed? Should I lower my expectation or should I not expect much from the members? To answer the first part, I am here only to share what I have learned and to answer the second part, I do have high expectation that some members like you, Icy, Arby, Gwanta, Enigma etc.. will have anough knowledge to participate here.

I am sorry if I got you wrong on either side...:shy:

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Originally posted by Raed
....
It was debated if concubines and servants in heaven are going to be part of those who die. Ibn al Jawzi stated that the last five are: Allah almighty, Gabriel, Michael, Israfeel, and the Death angel.

Then Allah orders the Death angel to pull Israfeel’s soul and the death angel comes back to Allah and Allah asks : who has remained?

“Gabriel, Michael, myself and you to never die “ The death angel replies

Then Michael is dead, then Gabriel with the same plot taking place.. The moving part is yet to come when Allah says “ Who has remained?” “Myself , and you my lord to remain forever and never die”
Then Allah says:” You know why I have created you, and your time has come to” then Allah orders him to take his own soul.. and the death angel screams in pain, that if anyone was to hear him they would die.



Quoting again Surah 39, verse 68, it says:

http://quran.al-islam.com/GenGifImages/Normal/290X330-0/39/68/1.png



[68] The Trumpet will (just) be sounded, when all that are in the heavens and on earth will swoon, except such as it will please Allah (to exempt). Then will a second one be sounded, when, behold, they will be standing and looking on!


As it says: "All that are in the heavens and on earth will die...except...I believe I am correct by saying that humans, jinns and angels will die:



16) When the Trumpet will be blown, humans, jinn and angels will die except for those whom Allah wills.



The angels are included in this verse 68 because they are in the heavens, except for those whom Allah wills. Allah will take the souls of those who are left and as you said correctly Raed, the last one to die will be the Angel of Death. Only Allah will remain...Eternal.

http://quran.al-islam.com/GenGifImages/Normal/290X330-0/28/88/1.png



[88] And call not, besides Allah, on another god. There is no god but He. Everything (that exists) will perish except His own Face. To Him belongs the Command, and to Him will ye (all) be brought back. {Quran 28, Verse 88}

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17) Allah sent Jibraeel (Angel Gabriel) to Maryam (Mary) in human form.



This is is found in Surah 19, Verses 16-19:

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[16] Relate in the Book (the story of) Maryam, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East.

[17] She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.

[18] She said: "I seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah."

[19] He said: "Nay, I am only a Messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son."

[20] She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?"

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(Xp's sentence: )
18) The angels came to the Prophet Loot (Lot) in the form of messengers of Allah


Icy's answer can be verified in Surah 11, Verse 77:


[77] When our Messengers came to Lut, he was grieved on their account and felt himself powerless (to protect) them. He said: "This is a distressful day."{11:77}





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18) The angels came to the Prophet Loot (Lot) in the form of handsome young men


Based on the above verse 77, it seems that Prophet Lut (Lot- pbuh) was grieved when meeting these 'angels' because the came in the form of young men with handsome faces as a test and Lut feared that they might be harmed by his people. It is known that the Lut people were bad and used to commit sodomy.

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Originally posted by Raed
20) What Allah teaches the angels is far more than what man knows. Among the knowledge that they have been given is the knowledge of .............

Allah’s sacred name?

No, Raed, the angels were given the knowledge of writing:


Surah 'Al-Infitar' (82):

[10] But verily over you (are appointed angels) to protect you,

[11] Kind and honourable; writing down (your deeds):

[12] They know (and understand) all that ye do.

[Raed]

thats a given though... I mean they are there to write... And we know how to write as well.. They surpass us in knowledge, in certain aspect, and they might have had the lead in writing, but not anymore. I thought the question was looking for up to date aspects..

Moving along

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Raed, what do you mean by "...they might have had the lead in writing, but not anymore."? Who to your opinion is holding the first place?

[Raed]

they document stuff, we document stuff.. a person who has nothing to do with religions would go "what is so special ?" about writing? I mean we are given the same knowledge..