Skirts or Lihaf?

[Arabia]

I think that this subject has been discussed before. Still I have to know.
Do western and European people have a problem with decency? I am talking about the decision that France made by banning Muslim women from wearing their Lihaf in their work place. It is absolutely wrong and is a work of a dictator in a country whom they claim to be democratic. Here are the reasons why I think this rule is BLAH! :
First of all, it is invading women’s privacy.
Second, the companies are only losing good employees for no good reason.
Third, if the government wants to do something useful they should band the female employees from wearing short skirts. In England, the time that is wasted everyday in the offices because of the harassments that are going on between the co-workers could cost a big company a lost as much a as 20 million pounds per year. What for , SKIRTS!:os
Fourth, people all around the world are suffering from poverty, unemployment, lack of education, deadly diseases why not pay attention to that instead of trying to figure out what the colour of a certain woman’s hair is.
Fifth, this rule is undemocratic. Not only will it minimise the number of migrants but it will also put France in a very bad position politically and religiously.
What will France band next X-mas, over-weight, wearing jeans, mobiles or maybe just breathing?:tiered:
Any comments?:scratch:

[Enigma]

Banning obesity might be interesting!


Third, if the government wants to do something useful they should band the female employees from wearing short skirts.

I think you're missing the point. Not that I agree with the French; on the contrary. But their point is not the actual item of clothing but of what it resembles; religio expression.

Perhaps the French are meaning to create an equal community and put aside religious and racist differences; but they're going about it in the wrong way.

[Arabia]

You are really optimistic Enigma.
I know that you are trying to see the good side in things. Still, I don’t think that this is a step to stop(and it is spelled and called) religious expression not religio expression.:rolleyes: This is more of a conperacy that has been studied by the French to minimise the number of Arabs migrating. Look at it from this view, ever since France tried to take over Algeria and Morroco the French soldiers treatment to the Arabs were barbaric. Banding the Lihaf is just a progress in a plan they are drawing. Beware of the French people!
:twitch:

[sanwin25]

The French have every right to implement laws in their own country.

If you don't like it you are welcome to leave. I am sure you can find some nice Islamic countries where you can dress like a true muslim, ie, Afghanistan or Saudi for example.

[MoonChild]

Can you post a link to the news that hijab has been banned in the workplace? I only know of the decision to ban hijab, large crosses, and those little jewish head-pieces (yarmluks?) from public schools...

I happen to agree with your suspicions that this is a veiled (no pun intended ;) ) attempt to discourage muslim identity in France (they're definitely not happy about the large influx of emigrees) ... BUT... let's make sure we are discussing the facts of the issue, not getting angry about a situation that doesn't exist...

[Arabia]

OH MY GOD!:eek:
Moonchild, agreeing with me ? :lost:
What next ,sanwin becoming a muslim :gap:
Well Mooni you can find what you want on
http://www.bonjourparis.com/pages/articles.php?articleId=696&page=4
The third article says :
French law bans wearing "ostentatious" items that could connote religious affiliation in many public situations--for instance, to school or to a public workplace. That law is based on the principle of secularism, one of the most cherished ideals of the Republic--typically, French politicians describe it as the ciment de la cohésion sociale.

I just want to say, I was completely shocked to know that "France" a place of peace and religon diversity could announce such a law :sorry:

[MoonChild]

LOL our only debate has been evolution, you might be surprised on how much we agree on otherwise ;)

thanks for the link - I thought it was just for the schools.

the really weird part is, if a girl wears a scarf as a fashion statement, it's not against the rules :rolleyes:

ps- am enjoying looking at the fashion sites linked off your news site :) looks like abaya might make good maternity wear :color:

[Homeless]

Originally posted by Enigma
Banning obesity might be interesting!



I think you're missing the point. Not that I agree with the French; on the contrary. But their point is not the actual item of clothing but of what it resembles; religio expression.

Perhaps the French are meaning to create an equal community and put aside religious and racist differences; but they're going about it in the wrong way.
yah that might be the point but then they shpould also respect othjer religions and hijaab is a farth right so how can they expect ppl to do without it?

[Arabia]

Well Mooni the Hijab can also be a fashion trend :)
There is also a French(Ironically) designer who finds beading the Abbaya a very interesting thing to do. She also said that a well beaded Abbaya shows a high sense of fashion from an Arabian women then an expensive cocktail dress would do for a Western women. God I forgot her name !:bored:
Also I don’t know if you notice this, but the Hijab also takes 2-2.5 pounds off a women ! :scratch:
Not only that , but the Hijab also protects the hair from the harmful UV light + Humidity+ Dust. It also helps to give women a very shinny look for their hair.
See people ? Even though the Hijab is a religious outfit for women, it can also benefits them in many ways that they never realise or appreciate it.
:D

[Namika]

Originally posted by sanwin25
The French have every right to implement laws in their own country.

If you don't like it you are welcome to leave. I am sure you can find some nice Islamic countries where you can dress like a true muslim, ie, Afghanistan or Saudi for example.

did they ever ask other religions not to do what they believe in.. like bodha.. they have this special cloth they wear, did they ask them not to wear it? and what about sardar turban?

i mean why only hijab? what harm does it do to them to see muslim females wearing it? as long as they don't do anyting wrong...

BR

[Pineapple Thief]

Its a ridiculous decision, and its entirely political. Rest assured it has nothing to do with Islam itself.