View Full Version : Confession in chsitianity??


Arabian Princess
04-04-04, 10:15 AM
what does confession in chritianity (or catholicsim as I know) serves?

when a person confess, do they clarify thier sins?? what if u dont confess, u still carry ur sins?

Enigma
07-04-04, 08:07 AM
I was waiting for a Christian member to answer this but seems they're too busy in Poli Sabla :help:

Anyway I tried looking it up; didn't find an answer to your questions Arby but I read this interesting statement:

No Catholic believes that a priest is simply an individual, but a person that is learned and has the power to forgive things through God.

About (http://catholicism.about.com/cs/sacraments/a/071303.htm)

amo_l_oman
07-04-04, 11:14 AM
Yes, he represents a bridge in some cases, like this of confession, to be in contact with God but this doesn't mean he's special or something, just a human being like others who can commit sins.
True as written in the article that not necessary to confess every day or week or month but getting free of sins through confession is a conditio sine qua non, to receive the communion during the holy function which takes place every day and in particular on Sunday.

sanwin25
07-04-04, 04:28 PM
I'll try to post something tonight.

IceTea
07-04-04, 04:46 PM
It seems you don't know the answer and you need to search for it first.!

MoonChild
07-04-04, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by IceTea
It seems you don't know the answer and you need to search for it first.!

Oh, don't be an ..... . People work for a living ya know, he's probably just busy.

amo_l_oman
07-04-04, 10:20 PM
Princess didn't ask for an essay just a clarification for a concept that is interesting for another religion member.
Confession is a simple issue.

sanwin25
08-04-04, 07:51 AM
Moonie, you were right.

Wish I was a lazy omani with a government job, working 5 hours a day with a 5 day week, closed for 14 days for Id and other special occassions (like the Sultans birthday).

Back to the topic.

Confession is based on this :

After his resurrection, Jesus passed on his mission to forgive sins to his ministers, telling them, "As the Father has sent me, even so I send you. . . . Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained" (John 20:21–23).

This is where the sacrament of confession was instituted by Jesus Christ.

It can be compared to a therapy session. You unburden your wrongs to someone else.

Before teabag jumps in, confession is not a license to sin. You must be genuinely sorry for your sins and must make a sincere effort to avoid them in future.

EviliO
08-04-04, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by sanwin25

Before teabag jumps in, confession is not a license to sin. You must be genuinely sorry for your sins and must make a sincere effort to avoid them in future.

Alright, i guess it works this way for all. If you are sorry for what you did you hope that you will be forgiven.

But when the "priest forgives" you?
Also, is he allowed to forgive you for whatever sin you committed?

sanwin25
08-04-04, 04:20 PM
The priest does not forgive you.

Based on your sins, he gives you a 'penance', which are prayers to be said, or even acts of charity to be done.

Forgiveness is from God alone.

Arabian Princess
08-04-04, 04:28 PM
Ok I understand your point .. but, cant there be a repetence (thearpy) stright from God to you? why do you have to confess your sin to a human (he might take it aginst you and spread your sin, presits do mistakes too)

what if somone didnt confess thier sins, what will happen?

Wish I was a lazy omani with a government job, working 5 hours a day with a 5 day week, closed for 14 days for Id and other special occassions (like the Sultans birthday).

thats was a sooo uneccery comment!! if you dont like what Ice wrote, talk to him not about Omanis!!
At least Omanis have respect to other nations :rolleyes:

sanwin25
08-04-04, 09:13 PM
what if somone didnt confess thier sins, what will happen?

That will be for him and God.

About the lazy Omani comment.

It wasn't directed at you or at all Omani's.

It was directed specifically at Teabag.

If I offended you, I apologize.

MoonChild
08-04-04, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Arabian Princess
Ok I understand your point .. but, cant there be a repetence (thearpy) stright from God to you?

AP, this is the core of the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther maintained that an intermediary (priest or saint) isn't necessary between Man and God.

those who agree with this point of view are Protestants, the rest remained Catholic.

amo_l_oman
08-04-04, 09:41 PM
LOOL just to cheer up the thread i remember some funny episodes:

the closed confession is held in a small wood building inside the church where the priest sits, while the believers stay on their knees one at his left and the other at his right: when the priest opens a little bit the windows the whole thing starts, sometimes he starts asking, someother times the person starts confessing there's not a rule. So it was summer and hot and both the windows were open and since the dialogue is at very low voice i hadn't understood he was confessing the other person and i was listing my sins then silence .....at a certain point i heard him asking clearly to me: so, daughter, anything to confess :yikes:
I started again :bored:
My mother some years ago as last question heard : and how is your virginity going? Still safe ? :p After a moment of uncertainty she understood the problem and answered: sure father, still virgin :D
I guess the face to face is better for sure to avoid these situations though i remember my priest liked and still, to drink a lot, and i hate alcohol smell so i didn't concentrate much :yuck:

IceTea
09-04-04, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by sanwin25


Confession is based on this :

After his resurrection, Jesus passed on his mission to forgive sins to his ministers, telling them, "As the Father has sent me, even so I send you. . . . Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained" (John 20:21–23).


Jesus PBUH was not a god to forgive other human being sins.

And what does "even so I send you" and what does "recieve the holy spirit" means?

[b]
Before teabag jumps in, confession is not a license to sin. You must be genuinely sorry for your sins and must make a sincere effort to avoid them in future.

Why don't you go straight to your God(Allah) instead of going to a human being, and do you think the person can really help you to clear you sins?

PS: next time watch your langauge and avoide insulting Omani's.

Shakoosh Kabir
09-04-04, 03:09 PM
Tea

You appear to have great difficulty understanding the basic tenets of Christianity. Perhaps you should consider converting to a simpler religion.

amo_l_oman
09-04-04, 03:20 PM
IT, Sanwin kindly explained roots and regulations of confession: now how can you ask to have more respect for the religion Sabla from some members if you yourself as Muslim are showing a level of arrogance and disrespect which don't belong at all to our religion and to our conduct code?

sanwin25
09-04-04, 07:36 PM
Thanks Amo, I shall ignore him this time.

IceTea
10-04-04, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by amo_l_oman
IT, Sanwin kindly explained roots and regulations of confession: now how can you ask to have more respect for the religion Sabla from some members if you yourself as Muslim are showing a level of arrogance and disrespect which don't belong at all to our religion and to our conduct code?

You don't make any sense for your jumping..

It's a question related to the topic, they asked many question about Islam, Quran, prophet Mohammed PBUH and we answered all of them. Why it's difficult to answer our questions, or is it that difficult for sanwin?

Wanderer
12-04-04, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by IceTea
Jesus PBUH was not a god to forgive other human being sins.


My understanding is that Jesus was a sacrifice for the sins of others.

IceTea
13-04-04, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Wanderer
My understanding is that Jesus was a sacrifice for the sins of others.

Human sacrifice can't affect the sins of others. It's only the person who made the sin can sacrifice for the evil practices and ask Allah for forgivness.

MoonChild
13-04-04, 10:52 PM
Your opinion has nothing to do with what they believe.

don't you get that yet?

IceTea
13-04-04, 11:03 PM
My opinion is synchronized with the truth.

Enigma
14-04-04, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by MoonChild
Your opinion has nothing to do with what they believe.

don't you get that yet?

MoonChild, you and Wandy, Sanwin and Jack say things like that about Islam I don't see why Ice Tea can't express his opinion here. It is a discussion forum after all.

sanwin25
14-04-04, 07:18 AM
Because our opinions are synchronized with the truth.