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fatak
16-02-04, 06:11 PM
A random thought.......what if the whole world converted to Islam.......

How would it be different???

Cause I am not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling between the muslims of Iran towards Arabs or Arabs towards Turks?

or for that matter Shias and sunnis......

and well the wahabis...........

So pray tell.......how would it be?

fatak

Enigma
16-02-04, 06:15 PM
Peace baby!

True muslim's do have their differences, especially when it comes to sects but hey, that's how people are!

I say the world would be an orderly place...

But hmm.... I need to think about this one a bit deeper.

Scottish Gal
16-02-04, 06:25 PM
how would it be different?


well, if evrybody followed the rules properly and had no evil behaviour, then there would a just syste.

i nkow you will try to argue all my points but i still feel ike replying.

1) no alcohol/drugs - effect - no rape, o murder, no abuse, no illness, o crying, no depression etc.

2) Marriage - effect - nobody is left alone, children have parents and grow up in a equal society and get much attention from parents and good education.

3) Prayer - effect- mankind realises that this life is temporary cause its certain that we all will die one day, rememberence of God and surely it his to him we will return. surely.

ok its prayer time right now gotta go.

its been nice coming back to sabla after a long time, seems quite settled :)

peace

MoonChild
16-02-04, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Scottish Gal
1) no alcohol/drugs - effect - no rape, o murder, no abuse, no illness, o crying, no depression etc.

2) Marriage - effect - nobody is left alone, children have parents and grow up in a equal society and get much attention from parents and good education.

3) Prayer - effect- mankind realises that this life is temporary cause its certain that we all will die one day, rememberence of God and surely it his to him we will return. surely.


Are these things true of currently Islamic societies? If not, there's no reason to believe that it would suddenly become true for "newly Islamic" societies.

I believe that was the focus of the question.

Wanderer
16-02-04, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by fatak
A random thought.......what if the whole world converted to Islam.......

How would it be different???


The Pork industry would suffer.

"Charlotte's Web" and "Babe" would be rewritten.

France would allow the wearing of the Hajib - as long as it was in a trendy colour.

The music industry would suffer - only fair after the suffering it has caused me over the last decade.

All of the claims of famous people converting to Islam would finally be true.

All historically famous people will be "converted" so that Columbus and President Roosevelt will have been Muslim.

All safety standards would be abolished - Muslims do not care about the deaths of other Muslims, only the deaths of Muslims by non-believers. As a result, both the Chevy Corvair and Ford Pinto will make a comeback. Seatbelts wiould no longer be required.

Victoria's Secret would start selling clingy pink Burkas.

More hotels will be needed near Mecca. Indeed, KSA will be one big airport, dock and hotel complex as everyone on Earth will want to make a Haj. Seven "walking" decks would be built one atop the other around the Kaaba.

All history texts would be rewritten to remove the meaningless BC, AD, and CE references.

The only book in the Self Help section of Barnes and Noble will be the Quran.

All books in the fiction area would involve complex conspiracies.

Dr. Phil and Leonardo DiCaprio will grow long beards.

World banking would collapse ... sooner.

Computer Science would be entirely focused on extremely large databases - to manage all of the arranged marriages in the world.

All GPS devices would default to pointing to Mecca.

OnStar would start offering prayer alerts.

Reality TV shows would always have the word "Jihad" in their title.

Enigma
16-02-04, 11:48 PM
All safety standards would be abolished - Muslims do not care about the deaths of other Muslims, only the deaths of Muslims by non-believers. As

That is NOT true! Of course we do! The death penalty is set for anyone who kills another!


The only book in the Self Help section of Barnes and Noble will be the Quran.

Neither is that :bored: The one book I use as a 'self help' is one written by a muslim guy. It does have verses and hadiths but thats the backup for what he's saying. Its probably one of the best Islamic books anyone came out with in a LONG time. Even non-muslims would probably benifit from it!

A couple of those did make me lol though :p

Milliardo Peacecraft
17-02-04, 12:31 AM
To paraphrase President Manuel L. Quezon, "I would rather have a hell run by Christians than a heaven run by Muslims" (the quote is actually, "I would rather have a hell run by Filipinos than a heaven run by Americans.")

Wanderer
17-02-04, 12:39 AM
Enigma,

I have an odd sense of humor. I was trying to play off of stereotypes.

For example, where is the outrage that Iraqis are killing other Iraqis - suicide bombers killing police cadets/police officers, etc. ? I coupled that with a "it's the will of God" apathy and 2 famous US autos recalled for safety concerns in my comment.

I guess I need a sarcasm tag.







BTW - I have been worried that a trend in my posts recently might be construed as Arab/Muslim bashing. It is not intended as such.

Wanderer
17-02-04, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
(the quote is actually, "I would rather have a hell run by Filipinos than a heaven run by Americans.")


I guess it depends on where you plan on going.


And I would rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

Enigma
17-02-04, 12:44 AM
I know you were being sarcastic Wandy, but knowing you your sarcasm usually has a basis. I guess I assumed that the things you mentioned were what you believed about the Islamic world.

ToomuchaT
17-02-04, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by fatak
Cause I am not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling between the muslims of Iran towards Arabs or Arabs towards Turks?

or for that matter Shias and sunnis......

and well the wahabis...........

fatak

Unity without verity is no better than conspiracy :bang:


Originally posted by fatak
So pray tell.......how would it be?

fatak

it would be cool :kewl:

Wanderer
17-02-04, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Enigma
I know you were being sarcastic Wandy, but knowing you your sarcasm usually has a basis. I guess I assumed that the things you mentioned were what you believed about the Islamic world.

I suspect that, as in the west, a small percentage are enough to give the rest a bad image.

It is my hope that most of us (from either "world") would rather hang out in bookstores/libraries, sip coffee, go to movies, sit and chat, cook food, watch (or better, engage in sports), chase after our kids, gently tease each other, hear about love and heartbreak, and better ourselves together, than to move to some supposed opposite side of an invisible cultural fence and wish ill of each other.

What's the answer ?

This dialog is a start.

amo_l_oman
17-02-04, 09:41 PM
A pork flu might solve things.

silver_ring
20-02-04, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by fatak
A random thought.......what if the whole world converted to Islam.......

How would it be different???

Cause I am not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling between the muslims of Iran towards Arabs or Arabs towards Turks?

or for that matter Shias and sunnis......

and well the wahabis...........

So pray tell.......how would it be?

fatak

but remember we have only one book ;)

Wanderer
20-02-04, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by silver_ring
but remember we have only one book ;)

And many interpretations.

silver_ring
20-02-04, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Wanderer
And many interpretations.

the book is very clear ...who can read is the one who can interpretation it

MoonChild
20-02-04, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by silver_ring
the book is very clear ...who can read is the one who can interpretation it

S-R, are you Sunni or Shi'ite?

Don Khaled
20-02-04, 08:35 PM
That an interesting question, but the world is not about white and black. It does not mean if the world converts to Islam then you will have peace, no rapping, no harms, no extremists, and so on.. Life is Life! Or let's be more specific here, whenever you replace something by something else, then you will keep getting new stuff which might replace it.

There is no direct answer for all this, except that if the world was ran by the right people, and whom follow the true religion, then it would surely be a better place, but with the wrong hands holding power, so corruption would still exist.

Remember this, there is NO such thing as "Perfect World" expect in God's heavens. Because when the world practises perfectasim, then what is the point of life? Life is about the bads and the goods, about the advantages and disadvantages.

silver_ring
21-02-04, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by MoonChild
S-R, are you Sunni or Shi'ite?

no matter sunni or shi'it or abadhi ... the mean thing that we are worshiping one god (ALLAH) and believing in his messenger Mohammed (saala ALlah alyhe wassalm)..and believing in Quran that is one have no changed since revealed
and that is the gate of islam