*Always to remember what Amalek did (Deut. 25:17) (CCA76).
*That the evil done to us by Amalek shall not be forgotten (Deut. 25:19) (CCN194).
*To destroy the seed of Amalek (Deut. 25:19) (CCA77).


Er.. who is Amalek? All's I know is that he attacked the Israelies while Moses was leading them out of Egypt. But why all the hate?

could it be fareon?

Is it Fir3on?

If it is I know the whole story by heart :p

It's one of the fairly tales that Jewish believe in. Amalek was a bad experience in the jewish' history I guess.

Originally posted by SadLad
It's one of the fairly tales that Jewish believe in. Amalek was a bad experience in the jewish' history I guess.

...and Christians and Muslims don´t believe in "fairy tales"???

It's one of the fairly tales that Jewish believe in

Please do not disrespect other religions unless you wish the same for Islam.

Sanwin25

Is the truth I have stated there so offensive? :lost: :confused:


If mods think it's offensive, i won't mind editing it. :)

It sounds like arabic word, which means your hope :rolleyes:

Would anyone mind telling me what it's all about?

Originally posted by SadLad
Is the truth I have stated there so offensive? :lost: :confused:
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Please, answer this question for me -

If I call any story from the Quran just one of those fairy tales the muslims believe in, would you be offended and think I'm being disrespectful of Islam?

i wouldnt use the word "fairy tale" rather an historical event. since it is present in the holy book, ther must be something behind it.

inthis thread rather than explaining or answering the actual question posed, the thread has gone into somehting rather different!

i did a google search on "who is amalek?" and i got this, now i must say in advance that i know nothing about thins topic and if there is a jewish memeber hereplease do not get offended because i do not know what is correct or not. ok here is the story.

Who is Amalek?

Amaleka was the grandson of Esau, who had sold his birthright for a pot of lentils to his brother Jacob. When Esau also lost his inheritance to Jacob, Esau hated Jacob and vowed to kill him. Esau therefore taught his grandson, Amalek, to hate and pursue Jacob and his descendants, the Israelites.

Amalek attacked the Israelites (Jacob's descendants) while Moses was leading them out of Egypt into the Promised Land. The battle was fierce, and while Moses held up the staff of G-d on top of the hill, Israel prevailed over the Amalekites. But when Moses' hands became tired and let down the staff of G-d, the Amalekites prevailed over Israel. Only after Aaron (the priest and brother of Moses) and Hur made Moses sit down and supported his hands, did Joshua destroy the Amalekites with the swordb.

Then G-d said, "I will utterly blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven!", and commanded Israel, "Remember what the Amalekites did to you on the way when you came out of Egypt. When you were weary and worn-out they met you on your journey and cut off all who were lagging behind; they had no fear of God. When the Lord your G-d gives you rest from all the enemies around you in the land He is giving you to possess as an inheritance, you shall blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven. DO NOT FORGET!"c

Hence - THE L-RD WILL HAVE WAR WITH AMALEK FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION until Israel has done what the L-RD commanded.

King Saul failed to utterly destroy Amalek as he had been commandedd, and as a consequence lost his kingship, his peace and soul, and was slain by an Amalekitee. Ever since, each generation of the Jewish people has had war with an "Amalek": Haman ; Hitler; Nasser, and now the Palestinian entity with Arafat at its head.

G-d ousted "Amalek" from the land to make room for His people returning from a two millennia exile. But, not wanting these people to suffer the loss of everything, Israel invited them back in.

Ever since, this "Amalek" has been a thorn in Israel's flesh, a poisonous asp in her side, for Israel sinned as King Saul had: being small in her own eyes she did NOT REMEMBER to carry out G-d's oath, but had mercy on a people G-d wanted removed from the Land.

As announced by the prophet Balaam, G-d proclaims that in the end, "Amalek shall come to total destruction."f

Hence, whoever spares "Amalek" at the expense of Israel must bear the
fierce wrath of the Holy One of Israel.


after reading this, i still do not understand what this is about.

Jewish rules andliterature is quite complex and deep. one must study is carefully, before commenting. i hope this article helps the person who asked the question.


:)

You sad lad,

You insult the Jewish religion and pretend to be confused about what was insulting.

You are really an idiot.

Please don't be insulted, because, as you said Is the truth I have stated there so offensive?

Ok..

Anymore off topic posts and I'm deleting. No it wasn't right for him to call it a fairytale but there's no need for all this; it's been done before. If there is anything else pm Arby or myself.

As long as we agree on not allowing insult to other religions then everything is fine.

Yep, i agree

so no more info about amalek?

ok then.

Originally posted by sanwin25
You sad lad,

You insult the Jewish religion and pretend to be confused about what was insulting.

You are really an idiot.

Please don't be insulted, because, as you said Shall i go on and insult you?! ;) Of course no coz my level is way higher than that of yours. :D

I found the same info that Scottish Gal did about Amalek ... historically, they were a tribe that attacked the jews on their exodus from Egypt.

symbolibically, they represent everyone since then who has attacked the jews as an ethnic group (that is, Hitler and nazi Germany was seen as Amalek). Radical groups use the story as justification for annhilating their enemies in much the same way that radical muslims use Jihad as an excuse to hijak planes and such.

I don't know if there is archaeological validation of the biblical story; however, the OT is largely a history of the Jewish people, so I'd tend to believe that SOMEONE attacked them during their journey from Egypt, and history remembers them as the Amalek.