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Do Boo
01-12-03, 07:54 PM
Peace :)

Milliardo Peacecraft
01-12-03, 08:29 PM
This is basically an example of how people who do not know anything will find contradictions in it. To reply to some:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by I_am_Stupid
[B]34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
No (John 1:19-21)

The answer is no. In Matthew, Jesus compares John to Elijah, but in no way does Jesus it that John is Elijah in a literal sense.


[b]35. Would Jesus inherit David’s throne?
Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon David’s throne (Jeremiah 36:30)

Again, this is a misunderstanding of the use of the lineage of Jesus in both Matthew and Luke. All Gospel writers, it should be noted, agree that Jesus is the inheritor of David's throne. The lineage has theological than literal meanings: in Matthew Jesus is shown to be a Jew's Jew, one who is obedient to the Law, as opposed to the Pharisees. In Luke Jesus is presented as the one who is God made man, the Emmanuel, as shown later.


37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?

By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)

Again, if one does not know what he's talking about, he'll naturally be confused. In Matthew 16 all of the Disciples know Him to be the Messiah; even most Jews at that point are willing to accept Him as the Messiah. However, in Matthew 16 Jesus takes the point one step further: Who is He really? To which Peter answered that He is the Christ, the Son of God--a title that transcends merely being Messiah to one being higher than it, practically akin to God, which indeed Jesus reveals later in John 8.


54. Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?
Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, “Today you will be with me in Paradise” (Luke 23:43)
No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, “I have not yet ascended to the Father” (John 20:17)

In both cases, no. Even in Luke He has not ascended yet until 40 days later. Jesus made a promise to the thief in Luke, a promise which He fulfilled later in the Ascencion 40 days later.

So again, there are the answers. Funny how people will try to keep hitting, but continually miss.

Shinoda LP
01-12-03, 08:31 PM
Just like a stanch Muslim on this board would warn other 'brothers' ...

This is just a move to 'dampen' your faith in Christ ... keep your faith strong, against such moves!

:rolleyes:

ps/ Can't we move on from posting stuff from such sites, to actually trying to gather more information about a religion?

Old_Glory
02-12-03, 12:13 AM
I can find a million sites on the web that prove Islam is not a peaceful religion at all. Why would I bother. Silly.

Vargher
02-12-03, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Old_Glory
I can find a million sites on the web that prove Islam is not a peaceful religion at all. Why would I bother. Silly.

so you are like me we both are the same .

i have found out that all religions are wrong .

so i told you man Worshiping your self is the best religion

and by the way Millarodo have mentioned that Angel's Are More Powerful than Christians god so ..

so let us worship the angels :) great isn't it ?:confused: :confused:

Vargher
02-12-03, 01:41 AM
In both cases, no. Even in Luke He has not ascended yet until 40 days later. Jesus made a promise to the thief in Luke, a promise which He fulfilled later in the Ascencion 40 days later.


So again, there are the answers. Funny how people will try to keep hitting, but continually miss..

:confused: :confused:
Milliardo Peacecraft

Did you Wrote your Own Bible ?
show it to me pleas .. coz im confused :confused: :confused:

i know that bible even me i can write it and i will start from today okay .. :confused: :confused: Milliardo Peacecraft

you are the best and you always meke me laugh

sanwin25
02-12-03, 06:53 AM
so i told you man Worshiping your self is the best religion

You have probably confused 'worshipping yourself' with 'playing with yourself'.

While playing with yourself might make you feel like you are in heaven, even if momentarily, it does not qualify as a religion.

:gap: :gap:

Mr Tickle
02-12-03, 05:44 PM
Two can play the 'cut and pasty' game.

You will find all the answers to the 'contradictions here:

http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm (http://)

Do Boo
02-12-03, 05:56 PM
Peace :)

Vargher
02-12-03, 11:32 PM
after all our beloved member MILLARONDO PEACECRAFT WAS BLA BLA BLAIYNG

HMMMMMMMM.. im confused :confused: :confused:

jack
02-12-03, 11:45 PM
101 Contradictions to the Bible "CLEARED UP" (http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm)

Do Boo
03-12-03, 05:33 PM
Peace :)

MoonChild
03-12-03, 05:39 PM
So basically you are trying to convince believers of the Bible that they are wrong, and telling everyone to shut up.

It's a beautiful example of what is wrong with the Religion Sabla these days :fire:

Do Boo
03-12-03, 05:57 PM
Peace :)

MoonChild
03-12-03, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by I_am_Stupid
If you are not either !! then ignore my questions ... and stay in the Dark until you see the light .. when it is too late


1. I was referring to this phrase. Oh, that and calling him stupid for posting a rebuttal site to YOUR site (by the way, did you bother to verify what you copied from that website you found, by looking up the references in your own bible? Or did you just parrot it blindly because you felt like bashing someone elses religion?)

2. You have no idea who my ancestors are.

3. By the way, it's really mature to call Jack "Gack". Do you really think it impresses anyone?



:rolleyes:

Desert_Sloath
03-12-03, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by MoonChild



I was referring to this phrase. Oh, that and calling him stupid




1st:

the question was simply directed to jack. and and and I think jack is mature enough to answer by himself. And and "calling him stupid" by 'He-is-Stupid' himself is a compliment. Why are you MoonChild trying to widen a gap that is not there ? eih ?

2dly:

You Scottish is a pagan what makes you think you know better than Yacoub or rather jack ?


Honorary Stupid wants sensible Bible that does not beat-Bush.

Do Boo
03-12-03, 07:40 PM
Peace :)

Shinoda LP
03-12-03, 08:14 PM
I normally wouldn't stoop to this (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/3543/contra.htm) level ... but, this deserves it.

Whats up with all the self-acknowledged stupid members joining Sabla these days?

sanwin25
04-12-03, 04:27 AM
I agree.

The level of stupidity displayed by three recent members (2 actually, since the same person uses two nicks) is equal if not greater that the stupidity displayed by all the stupid members till date.

Do Boo
04-12-03, 10:13 AM
Peace :)

sanwin25
04-12-03, 04:07 PM
Hey Stupid,

Do you feel good calling yourself stupid, or are you just being true to yourself ?

Shakoosh Kabir
04-12-03, 05:42 PM
The Muslim community pretends that the Jewish and Christian Bibles have been corrupted and also that they have been abolished by God in favour of their book.

There is in fact no basis for alleging the corruption of the Bible where it disagrees with the Quran except in the desire of the Moslems to justify themselves.

The Jewish and Christian people are mutually exclusive and no sane man can allege a conspiracy between them. However, for either or both of these communities to amend their Bibles, would require nothing less than the connivance of the other community, as much as absolute internal non-objection…

If the Jews had corrupted their version of the Bible, their enemies the Samaritans and the Christians would have happily pounced upon their effort. Again, if the Christians had attempted it, the Jews would have happily pounced upon their effort.

That there has been no protest is evidence of the falseness of this claim.

Further, the claim to Godhood by Jesus Christ is witnessed to not only by the Christians in their Bible, but also by the Jews in their Para-Scriptures - the Talmud, wherein they witness that they had murdered Jesus because of His claim to being God, and further claim that He is now in Hell, in the greatest of torments!

The alleged abrogation of the Bible is to be dismissed as being patently false and destructive of Divine Revelation. As a matter of fact, it is evident from a study of the Quran that the only abrogation it teaches of is of parts of the Quran itself! (see Shinoda´s link).

Do Boo
04-12-03, 07:10 PM
Peace :)

Shinoda LP
04-12-03, 07:11 PM
I_am_stupid ... shush it ... I don't find it entertaining at all, to even 'talk' to you. Forget arguing and debating! :bored:

Desert_Sloath
04-12-03, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Shakoosh Kabir



The alleged abrogation of the Bible is to be dismissed as being patently false and destructive of Divine Revelation.

As a matter of fact, it is evident from a study of the Quran that the only abrogation it teaches of is of parts of the Quran itself!

(see Shinodas link).


what do you say regarding Islam teaching it's followers to believe sacred books that preceeded the Holy Qur`An ? and in my opinion which I believe is the opinion of all muslims that the changes that are being added or removed from bible is the business of the followers of that book. But as a believer I would hardly believe modern interpretation of what is purported to be a word of god.


the link given by Shinoda LP is not opening. instead it switches off my computer. can you kindly offer another credible link ?

thank you.

Shinoda LP
04-12-03, 11:24 PM
the link given by Shinoda LP is not opening. instead it switches off my computer. can you kindly offer another credible link ?

thank you.

D_S ... opening any link shouldn't re-boot your computer.

However, I shall post another link when I come across one.

Do Boo
05-12-03, 02:31 PM
Peace :)

Shakoosh Kabir
05-12-03, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Desert_Sloath
the link given by Shinoda LP is not opening. instead it switches off my computer.

The link leads to a site which points out certain contradictions and inconsistencies in the Qur'an. My guess is that hackers from the Islamic Thought Police have taken over your computer.

sanwin25
05-12-03, 05:25 PM
Funny, I was just about to say the same thing.

Can't have the unwashed masses accidentally stumble upon the truth, eh ?