{And make mention of Mary in the Scripture, when she had withdrawn from her people to a chamber looking East,


And had chosen seclusion from them.

Then We sent unto her Our spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man.


She said: Lo! I seek refuge in the Beneficent One from thee, if though art God fearing.


He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.


She said: How can I have a son when no mortal hath touched me, neither have I been unchaste!


He said: So(it will be). Thy Lord saith: It is easy for Me. And (it will be) that We make of him a revelation for mankind and a mercey from Us, and it is a thing ordained.


And she, conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a place.


And the pangs of childbirth drove her unto the trunk of the palm tree. She said: Oh, would that I had died ere this and had become a thing of naught, forgotten!


Then (one) cried unto her from below her, saying: Grieve not! Thy Lord hath placed a rivulet beneath thee,


And shake the trunk of the palm tree toward thee, thou wilt cause ripe dates to fall upon thee.


So eat and drink and be consoled. And if thou meetest any mortal, say: Lo! I have vowed a fast unto the Beneficent, and may not speak this day to any mortal.


Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying him. They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing.


Oh sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot.


Then she pointed to him. They said How can we tale to one who is in the cradle, a young boy?


He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,


And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and alms giving so long as I remain alive,


And (hath made me) dutiful toward her who bore me, and hath not made me arrogant, unblest.


Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!


Such was Jesus, son of Mary: (this is) a statement of the truth concerning which they doubt.


It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He sould take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.}


Holy Quran ( Maryam16-37) Maryam=Mary

It sounds as if whoever made up that version had

i. completely misunderstood Christian beliefs and practices

ii. been unable to read or understand the Gospels

iii. purloined and adapted tenets of Christianity

iv. been planning to concoct another Christian heresy

The fact of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary is related in Luke, i 26-38. The Evangelist tells us that in the sixth month after the conception of St. John the Baptist by Elizabeth, the angel Gabriel was sent from God to the Virgin Mary, at Nazareth, a small town in the mountains of Galilee. Mary was of the house of David, and was espoused (i. e. married) to Joseph, of the same royal family. She had, however, not yet entered the household of her spouse, but was still in her mother's house, working, perhaps, over her dowry. And the angel having taken the figure and the form of man, came into the house and said to her: "Hail, full of grace (to whom is given grace, favoured one), the Lord is with thee." Mary having heard the greeting words did not speak; she was troubled in spirit, since she knew not the angel, nor the cause of his coming, nor the meaning of the salutation. And the angel continued and said: "Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God. Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob forever. And of his kingdom there shall be no end." The Virgin understood that there was question of the coming Redeemer. But, why should she be elected from amongst women for the splendid dignity of being the mother of the Messiah, having vowed her virginity to God? Therefore, not doubting the word of Godlike Zachary, but filled with fear and astonishment, she said: "How shall this be done, because I know not man?"

The angel to remove Mary's anxiety and to assure her that her virginity would be spared, answered: "The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee and the power of the Most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." In token of the truth of his word he made known to her the conception of St. John, the miraculous pregnancy of her relative now old and sterile: "And behold, thy cousin Elizabeth; she also has conceived a son in herold age, and this is the sixth month with her that is called barren: because no word shall be impossible with God." Mary may not yet have fully understood the meaning of the heavenly message and how the maternity might be reconciled with her vow of virginity, but clinging to the first words of the angel and trusting to the Omnipotence of God she said: "Behold the handmaid of the Lord, be it done to me according to thy word."

I'll go with theory #3 Shakoosh--this is exactly what happens when one tries to rewrite something that's been written before--it becomes a bad adaptation of the original.

what is this i don't understand :lost:

Millo and shakos... what is it that you see wrong in what was written there? can you explain please? and what do you mean when you said...

this is exactly what happens when one tries to rewrite something that's been written before--it becomes a bad adaptation of the original.

Originally posted by Blood Rose
Millo and shakos... what is it that you see wrong in what was written there? can you explain please? and what do you mean when you said...

It is easy, Blood Rose: which came first, the Qur'an or the Bible? So like I said, the Qur'an was only a rewriting of events found in the Bible, which is hardly being original. It is nothing but a bad adaptation of it, nothing more.

There are 6 primary acknowledged sources for the Qur'an. the second of which being:

"The New Testament (canonical and apocryphal) and various heretical doctrines. On his journeys between Syria, Hijaz, and Yemen, Mohammed had every opportunity to come in close touch with Yemenite, Abyssinian, Ghassanite, and Syrian Christians, especially heretic. Hence, while the influence of orthodox Christianity upon the Koran has been slight, apocryphal and heretical Christian legends, on the other hand, are one of the original sources of Koranic faith."

This apocryphal and heretical basis is the reason why few of the Christian "facts" in the Qur'an find any resonance amongst practising Christians.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
It is easy, Blood Rose: which came first, the Qur'an or the Bible? So like I said, the Qur'an was only a rewriting of events found in the Bible, which is hardly being original. It is nothing but a bad adaptation of it, nothing more.

That is your own definition only which doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
It is easy, Blood Rose: which came first, the Qur'an or the Bible? So like I said, the Qur'an was only a rewriting of events found in the Bible, which is hardly being original. It is nothing but a bad adaptation of it, nothing more.

Re-Writing hmmmm So The Prophet (PBUH) was an educated person to read and rewrite the Bible!! He must have known Latin or Hebrew .. amazing ...

Although we all know here that he was an un-educated person!! Isn't that silly from you WarCraft to bring forth such a statement?

Peace :)

Mohammed picked up shreds of Judaism and heretical Christian practices during his travels and recounted the - often embellished - tales to his audiences. The Arab scribes, who were numerous, could easily have referred to the Bible when they were compiling the Qur'an in the 7th and 8th Centuries, but on examination of the text it is by no means clear that anyone actually bothered. This explains why there is such a discrepancy between the facts contained in the Bible and the distortions encountered elsewhere.