a little quesion for nonmuslim people ...

do u agree with me that islam is the true religon?
if not why?:confused:

Salam soft lips ..

this thread was discussed in this thread : To all other religions.. why?? (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17353)

No.

No.

NO.

San you didn't post in the other thread so give also the motivations here.

It condones if not actually encourages violence.

It condones slavery.

It condones treating women as inferior to men.

It condones treating of non muslims as inferior.

It has had a violent past.

It has a violent present.

It will have a violent future.

Because it has remained in the year 600 AD.

Because I do not believe the Quran is the word of God.

Because I do not believe Mohammed to be a Prophet.

Because it has copied the two major religions that went before it and amended them for the worse.

Because it has no respect for other religions.

I could go on and on and on but...

Ok San, is enough, i think we discussed your points many times before, i respect your opinion. Thanks for answering.

Originally posted by Soft_Lips
a little quesion for nonmuslim people ...

do u agree with me that islam is the true religon?
if not why?:confused:

Anyone who thinks that islam is the true religion IS, by definition, "muslim".

So it seems a pointless question.

In my view most religions share similar codes, but ultimately all are irredeemably barmy.

Originally posted by sanwin25

Because I do not believe the Quran is the word of God.

Because I do not believe Mohammed to be a Prophet.


Because both sources show you the truth which hurts you and which you have been taught to follow blindly like the Trinity.

Originally posted by sanwin25

Because it has copied the two major religions that went before it and amended them for the worse.


There is no copy since all religions from one source and Islam, Quran and prophet Mohammed PBUH are the seal to previous religions.

Originally posted by sanwin25


Because it has no respect for other religions.


Islam has respect to other religions.

Originally posted by sanwin25

I could go on and on and on but...

Thats right you could go on and on with your nonsense claims.

Originally posted by IceTea
[B]Islam has respect to other religions.

Oh, yes, we see daily the respect that muslims have for other religions :rolleyes:

Originally posted by IceTea
Because both sources show you the truth which hurts you and which you have been taught to follow blindly like the Trinity.

Cut, pasted, and revised truth maybe. Oh wait--that's not the truth anymore, is it? You lost again, Teabag.

There is no copy since all religions from one source and Islam, Quran and prophet Mohammed PBUH are the seal to previous religions.

Again, the other religions Islam copied from don't accept Mohammed to be the "seal". Losing again, Teabag. Try again.

Islam has respect to other religions.

If that is so, then your statements above doesn't make any sense. So which is it, Icebag?

Thats right you could go on and on with your nonsense claims.

Not much of Islam makes sense when you look at it, Teabag. Copying and editing, and then making rules upon rules on its adherents that you should practically live in a cave to be a faithful Muslim--not much of a claim in it, is it now?

This is really some convulated logic which says that something that came LATER is the original !

If you take a photocopy, which is the original ? The document you copied or the copy you made ?

Strange logic, but that seems to work with the simple minded.

Originally posted by Soft_Lips
a little quesion for nonmuslim people ...

do u agree with me that islam is the true religon?
if not why?:confused:

what Islam are you talking about ??!!!

Originally posted by sanwin25
It condones if not actually encourages violence.

It condones slavery.

It condones treating women as inferior to men.

It condones treating of non muslims as inferior.

It has had a violent past.

It has a violent present.

It will have a violent future.

Because it has remained in the year 600 AD.

Because I do not believe the Quran is the word of God.

Because I do not believe Mohammed to be a Prophet.

Because it has copied the two major religions that went before it and amended them for the worse.

Because it has no respect for other religions.

I could go on and on and on but...


hmmmm so what is your religion snow white ??!!!

Originally posted by MoonChild
Oh, yes, we see daily the respect that muslims have for other religions :rolleyes:


do you respect muslims you son of moon

what is your religon sister ??!!

:lost:

Originally posted by MoonChild
Oh, yes, we see daily the respect that muslims have for other religions :rolleyes:

Hey he said Islam not muslims. Lots of people don't follow their religion as they should.... doesn't mean you blame the religion itself ;)

hmmmm so what is your religion snow white ??!!!

what is interesting in the comment above is that there are two aspects involved.

He admits that Islam has problems.
He wants to know if other religions are better.

any ways who forced you guys to follow your religion's ?

do you really believe that there is some thing called god ?

im confused ... i see nothing

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by sanwin25
what is interesting in the comment above is that there are two aspects involved.

He admits that Islam has problems.
He wants to know if other religions are better.

Dear snow white i don't recall that i have admitted that Islam has problems i was only asking about your religion .
if i wanted to ask about Islam i would ask AP

Now tell me what is your religion , and why you think it is better than Islam

:lost:

Originally posted by MoonChild
Oh, yes, we see daily the respect that muslims have for other religions :rolleyes:

Do you have any prove or just throwing words?

Originally posted by sanwin25
This is really some convulated logic which says that something that came LATER is the original !

If you take a photocopy, which is the original ? The document you copied or the copy you made ?

Strange logic, but that seems to work with the simple minded.

Everything came from Allah (God) is original, even the black stone which is located in the Kaaba was white as it came from the heaven but then turned to black due to human. The Bible also was one version and present the truth only, but people changed it many times deleted/added things. However the Quran remained one version, no word from it missed or added. Why becasue it's protected by Allah and no one can change it.

About saying photocopy, I don't know what copying you are refering to, if all religions and prophets came from same source. Copying is valid only if many people copy an original paper. But since all the papers (i.e original) then the copying is not valid.

Originally posted by IceTea
Do you have any prove or just throwing words?

Teabag, I don't know if you're dead serious or trying to be funny. I think there's more than ample proof in your own posts here, let alone the posts of others. Or are you saying that yours is an example of Muslim "respect"? If that is so, I'd hate to see how you show disrespect to other religious beliefs.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
Teabag, I don't know if you're dead serious or trying to be funny. I think there's more than ample proof in your own posts here, let alone the posts of others. Or are you saying that yours is an example of Muslim "respect"? If that is so, I'd hate to see how you show disrespect to other religious beliefs.

Read what I posted above again, I said Islam has respect to other religions . And you can't blame Islam if few muslims show 'no respect' to other religions. And I don't see any disrespect in my posts to other religions.

Originally posted by IceTea
However the Quran remained one version, no word from it missed or added. Why becasue it's protected by Allah and no one can change it.

Yada yada. You keep parroting the same nonsense, when it is clear Uthman burned all other existing copies of the Qur'an before him, so it is not Allah who protected it, but only Uthman's actions. It's amusing how this issue is sidestepped by many here--no one has even directly challenged it, and keep on posting the same sources, which give no clue nor reason to such an action.

About saying photocopy, I don't know what copying you are refering to, if all religions and prophets came from same source. Copying is valid only if many people copy an original paper. But since all the papers (i.e original) then the copying is not valid.

You make a roundabout logic here, Teabag. Yes, it came from one source, which is Judaism, which Muslims in general don't even accept, and keep attacking the very source from which Islam borrowed from. But even worse than that, the Qur'an is a copy of both the Bible and the Torah, the stories only altered and reinvented to co-opt other people and beliefs. Hardly original the Qur'an is. So that's why it is nothing but a cut, copied, and revised book. If you really are interested in knowing the original, Teabag, read the Bible and the Torah, and you'll see the many dissimilarities and changes made by the Qur'an to the text of these two books.

Originally posted by IceTea
Read what I posted above again, I said Islam has respect to other religions.

Usually whatever the thoughts of its adherents are is what is the thought of its faith is, so in that sense Islam's respect to other religions is almost non-existent by the very words and actions shown by its members.

And you can't blame Islam if few muslims show 'no respect' to other religions. And I don't see any disrespect in my posts to other religions.

Perhaps we can't, or maybe we can. Like I said, your actions and words are a reflection of your belief, so you can't really separate yourself from your faith, unless you're saying that what you post is your own opinion--which has been shown to be not so, since you quote your own holy book to back up your posts. So again, that respect is hard to be seen.

i heard one stroy about muslims and christians and it clearly shows christians they don't respect muslims . i am lost becasue i heard they are good people and i am about to convert to their religion.

a guy was washing him self to pray so he started washing his feet in the sink, the christian said oh maybe we should start taking baths in the sink as well . what si that i washing your fet in the sink a sin ??!!! i heard that christians they don't wash after they finish their hygienic processes !!!!


what is right and what is wrong iam lost :sorry:

Well from what I know Muslims are cleaner than christians... I mean at least they clean and wash up after doing their business in the bathroom...

Moon you say that Islam doesn't have respect for other religion... do you have proof for what you said?

And san no matter what we say you won't be convinced that Islam is the right religion... so what's the use of talking?!!! :confused:

Blood RoseWell from what I know Muslims are cleaner than christians... I mean at least they clean and wash up after doing their business in the bathroom...This right hear shows "your" level of respect for Christians. Now we don't wash after using the bathroom? :rolleyes:

Just how many Christians have you witnessed using the bathroom and not washing afterwards?

That book your reading about Christians is fiction?

However the Quran remained one version, no word from it missed or added. Why becasue it's protected by Allah and no one can change it.

That of course, is an excellent example of a 'logically satisfying answer' !

:gap: :gap: :gap:

hmmmm so what is your religion snow white ??!!!

What your sentence lacked was punctuation.

It should be

hmmmm so what ?

Meaning, you are right but what about it ?

is your religion snow white ??!!!

is self explanatory.

Now do you get it Demon ?

Originally posted by DemonOfTheFall
do you respect muslims you son of moon


I respect PEOPLE based on their actions/behavior. My respect is not based on a person's stated religion.

Originally posted by IceTea
Do you have any prove or just throwing words?

I was talking about you, among others. YOU have no respect at all for other religions, and the proof is in your posts.

Originally posted by MoonChild
I was talking about you, among others. YOU have no respect at all for other religions, and the proof is in your posts.

I see, can you show me with examples your weak claim :rolleyes:

Can we please concentrate on the topic without arguing ?

i completly confused whether islam is a true religon or not. i need somebody to direct me to the correct way. so far i have not embraced any religon.:bang:

Soft_Lips
Test for yourself and see if Islam and others are a true religions? (http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17557)

Originally posted by Soft_Lips
i completly confused whether islam is a true religon or not. i need somebody to direct me to the correct way. so far i have not embraced any religon.:bang:

Forget About Religions .

because miss Milliardo Peacecraft

has mentioned that Angels are more powerful than God him self .

so why dont you worships those angels and forget about god .

im also confused . :( :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by Vargher
Forget About Religions .

because miss Milliardo Peacecraft

has mentioned that Angels are more powerful than God him self .

so why dont you worships those angels and forget about god .

im also confused . :( :confused: :confused:

Either you're confused or you simply lack the brains. Anyway, even God is ministered to by the angels. Angels come to bring messages to people--does that mean the angels are better than Him? Of course not. Now stop being silly. Even your own Muslim brothers think your posts are silly.

Millo I don't understand , now you are not denying that angels in your religion are moe powerful than your god :lost: . From what you have said i see that angels are more powerful than god , you say that god needs them to deliver his mesages i am lost . I really came here to be a believer but I guess being a non believer in better than being a christian after all :sorry:. Somebody save me :weep:

Originally posted by Soft_Lips
i completly confused whether islam is a true religon or not. i need somebody to direct me to the correct way. so far i have not embraced any religon.:bang:

Islam is the right religion..... what is it that you need to know to make you believe that? what prrof you want?

Originally posted by DemonOfTheFall
Millo I don't understand , now you are not denying that angels in your religion are moe powerful than your god :lost: . From what you have said i see that angels are more powerful than god , you say that god needs them to deliver his mesages i am lost . I really came here to be a believer but I guess being a non believer in better than being a christian after all :sorry:. Somebody save me :weep:

Has not Jibrail come to your Prophet as well? If your religion tells this so, then the angels must be powerful in your religion as well, maybe more powerful than God. You have a silly sense of humour, and rightly so must be called a demon.

Originally posted by Milliardo Peacecraft
Either you're confused or you simply lack the brains. Anyway, even God is ministered to by the angels. Angels come to bring messages to people--does that mean the angels are better than Him? Of course not. Now stop being silly. Even your own Muslim brothers think your posts are silly.

There is a big different between aiding
And sending messages to the prophets.

You have mentioned that angels can Aid Your God .

Aid means
Healing
Supporting
Helping
Giving and many more ..

So does your god need help when he is in trouble?


And you have mentioned that Angels come to bring messages to people

To bring messages .. it means that it’s a command from god .
God commanded them to bring the messages .

So there is a big different between aiding and bringing messages to people .

Now I guess you are the one who is silly ?
I was counting on you to help me but seems you are lost like me :confused: :confused:

angels are creations of Allah, they have certain jobs assigned to each of them.

It condones if not actually encourages violence.

It condones slavery.

It condones treating women as inferior to men.

It condones treating of non muslims as inferior.

It has had a violent past.

It has a violent present.

It will have a violent future.

Because it has remained in the year 600 AD.

Because I do not believe the Quran is the word of God.

Because I do not believe Mohammed to be a Prophet.

Because it has copied the two major religions that went before it and amended them for the worse.

Because it has no respect for other religions.

I could go on and on and on but...

that is so false! if u see 2 or 3 muslims act like this it doesnt mean all muslims are the same..

Vargher, what is thats confusing you? let me try to help...

Originally posted by Vargher
Forget About Religions .

because miss Milliardo Peacecraft

has mentioned that Angels are more powerful than God him self .

so why dont you worships those angels and forget about god .

im also confused . :( :confused: :confused:


i never believe that angels are more powerful than god although i don't have a certain religon.
open-minded and well-educated person never says that so.what i am discussing here is just that what is the right riligon that god accepts? and why? what about other riligons? will god send all people who credit to other religons to hell??????????????:kewl:

Originally posted by Blood Rose
Islam is the right religion..... what is it that you need to know to make you believe that? what prrof you want?

coould you please prove your saying that islam is the right religon? as you are muslim do you believe that all nonmuslim people will be sent to the hell ??? if it is yes do you consider it justice??????????????????//:6:

Originally posted by Blood Rose
Well from what I know Muslims are cleaner than Christians... I mean at least they clean and wash up after doing their business in the bathroom...

Then you don´t know very much. I have a shower when I get up at 6.30 a.m. and another when I return home at 7.30 p.m. I brush my teeth at least 5 times daily and always swab up after jettisoning in the bathroom, which is also equipped with an array of toiletries and 7 shades and consistencies of Kleenex tissue. Christians do not need to wash their feet after using the bathroom. Instead they wash their hands.

soft lips im confused ..

Tea Bag And Millarodo are confusing me :mad: :confused:

Originally posted by Shakoosh Kabir
Then you don´t know very much. I have a shower when I get up at 6.30 a.m. and another when I return home at 7.30 p.m. I brush my teeth at least 5 times daily and always swab up after jettisoning in the bathroom, which is also equipped with an array of toiletries and 7 shades and consistencies of Kleenex tissue. Christians do not need to wash their feet after using the bathroom. Instead they wash their hands.


Shak, I could have sworn I read that you weren't a follower of any religion. So why bring yourself as an example for Christianity?

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Anyway, I totaly disagree with that statement about Christians being dirty. Judge by individual people... don't generalize to something you don't know much about.

Heck I know plenty of Christians that take more showers and wash their hands more than some muslims!

Originally posted by Shakoosh Kabir
Then you don´t know very much. I have a shower when I get up at 6.30 a.m. and another when I return home at 7.30 p.m. I brush my teeth at least 5 times daily and always swab up after jettisoning in the bathroom, which is also equipped with an array of toiletries and 7 shades and consistencies of Kleenex tissue. Christians do not need to wash their feet after using the bathroom. Instead they wash their hands.

forgive me for what i said before.... its something that was not supposed to be said... :)

Everyone has their own beliefs.
Everyone believes that their religion is the right religion.
We believe what we believe as Muslims and Non Muslims also have their own believes. I think we should be appoaching them in the right way. If they dont seem to believe or understand in our point of view then let it be. We should still respect what they believe and consider their opinion..
You cant force someone to believe what u believe just because u think its right despite it being right in everyway but thats what us muslims believe and u should no expect everyone else to believe so too ...
maybe we r just being so wrong in approaching non believers ...
how can u convince them by just saying islam is right , islam is the truth?! I dont think that is more than enough ..

I respect every individual for who they are and not for their religion ..
But I do believe that islam is the right religion and the only that stands now and that is my opinion and these r my believes ...
no non muslim should attack me for that?
Iam not saying that u r wrong (non muslims) Im not saying u r going to hell because Iam NO ONE to say that and I honesltly have no right to say that u r wrong ..
But I believe in my religion like u believe in urs...

peace

Originally posted by Enigma
Shak, I could have sworn I read that you weren't a follower of any religion. So why bring yourself as an example for Christianity?


I don´t practise any religion, but I grew up with Christianity and know all the arguments. I am not posing as an example of anything.

sanwin25 u have to visit this site..
i'm sure by the time u've read all the contents u'll have a different opinion about islam..

www.islamfact.com (http://www.islamfact.com)

and if u have any questions about Islam then u can send them to Sheikha Khalfan Al 3eesry..he translates the Quran and he might be able to give u the answers u'll looking for.. i'm sure ur lost and ur looking for someone or something to lead u to the right path..

peace:wave:

sanwin25 u say Islam is unfair because it allows polygamy ??

http://www.islamfact.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=14 (http://) :fire:

for whoever is lost and is in doubt that islam isnt the right religion, please visit this website that will teach you alot about islam.

www.sevenverses.com (http://www.sevenverses.com)

Iam still waiting for the answer ?????????????????????:bang:

Originally posted by Soft_Lips
Iam still waiting for the answer ?????????????????????:bang:

What answers lips?