View Full Version : Husband is not wifes boss
Scorpio27
25-10-03, 10:39 AM
I think after marriage the husband is not her Boss but partner. And the marriage is a tie, which is based on trust, compromise, respect and care. Islam does not believe in Bossing.
H-Highness
25-10-03, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Hasnain
Islam does not believe in Bossing.
Tell that to millions of muslim men around the world . :yikes:
"Careful, Boss is here".
Are you talkin about me?!!!
Shinoda LP
27-10-03, 09:17 PM
Tell that to millions of muslim men around the world .
You are indeed funny.
When someone opens up a thread about 'un-equality' in Islam, ladies cry "Who said that?" ... and now this?
Hilarious. :bored:
Mr Tickle
27-10-03, 09:32 PM
a man rules the roost
but a woman rules the rooster
IneXorabLe
28-10-03, 11:29 AM
you are right dear hasanain, islam does not believe in bossing. islam incourages the couples to be together to carry on holding each other hand.
but islam believes in leadership, where the husband is the leader of teh family. and this is the NATURE... male always take the leadership, simillar in animal.
but this does not mean that a women have no right to give their opinions and share responsibility.
http://www.alazhr.com/quran/image/4_034.gif
in the verse , hitting is mentioned BUT understand its meaning..
to understand the verse in detail pls refer to this site and go to the explaination of verse number34
http://quran.muslim-web.com/sura.htm?aya=004
Mr Tickle
28-10-03, 02:13 PM
IneXorabLe,
I am sorry, but I think you are wrong when you say " male always take the leadership, simillar in animal"
My wife is a very good cook, gardener, interior designer etc and she runs the household. There is NO WAY I would tell her what to do in these areas. She will ask for my opinion - but, she is the leader. For example, we have recently moved and we are working on building a new garden. Last Friday she took a day off to buy all the plants. She asked me if I had a view and I said that I was happy to leave it to her as she has more talent than me.
Then, under her leadership, we both planted them
My wife organises events for a living and she is an exceptional organiser and I am very happy to defer to her strengths.
Incidentally, please tell me how male lions provide leadership when it comes to hunting?
There is no problem with the wife helping her husband, but the bottom like is that the husband is in charge of everything and he is leading the family. Or in other words the man is the custodian of the house matters.
Mr Tickle
28-10-03, 02:28 PM
IT,
I am sorry, but I think you are gravely mistaken
In every aspect of (married) life, do you know more than your wife?
IneXorabLe
28-10-03, 03:49 PM
dear mr pinnochio, leadership has many levels.
the leadership u talked between your wife happens not only in your family but in all other happy familes.. that is called sharing responsibilities.. e.g brining children is not only the male decision but female has a role in it.
but the husband is the leader of a family when it come to other situations like when a disaster happens usually the malke are involved. , when the house is attacked who will be in front...etc and so on...
so don't get confused with leadership because it has many levels...
and never forgets that islam incourages sharing responsibilities in the family....
Mr Tickle
28-10-03, 04:43 PM
Inexorable,
You are now confusing me
First of all you wrote that the "male always take the leadership"
and then you wrote "but the husband is the leader of a family when it come to other situations"
It seems that you now agree that there are many situations where the wife is the leader.
Secondly, are you really implying that females merely 'have a role' to play in bringing up children?
Thirdly, please tell me how male lions provide leadership when it comes to hunting?
IceTea,
In every aspect of (married) life, do you know more than your wife?
Delicate
28-10-03, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by IceTea
There is no problem with the wife helping her husband, but the bottom like is that the husband is in charge of everything and he is leading the family. Or in other words the man is the custodian of the house matters.
I agree here.
Mr Tickle
28-10-03, 09:14 PM
Delicate,
In every aspect of (married) life, does the husband know more than the wife?
Scorpio27
29-10-03, 08:04 AM
I am not the Boss!!!:gap:
IneXorabLe
29-10-03, 01:25 PM
Mr pinochio,
for any group of activity , there must be a leader who will be in front when there is any meeting or any problem. BUT this does not mean members of the groups don't share any responsibilities... all members work together in order to carry on their group or organization..
simillary in marriage a husband is the leader but does not mean the women has no responsibilities, in fact i feel her responsibilities are much more than the husband.
so dear hope you understand what i have said and now u can also apply to lion kingdome. the Male protect his territory from other lions colony... and it is amazing how he defines his area by urinating around the border of the area.
Originally posted by mr pinnochio
Delicate,
In every aspect of (married) life, does the husband know more than the wife?
What kind of silly question is this? :rolleyes:
IneXorabLe
29-10-03, 01:39 PM
mr pinno,
regarding ur question?
In every aspect of (married) life, does the husband know more than the wife?
a part of answer would be: wife knows about menstrual period more than teh husband..:D
sorry, your question is too vague could you please clarify it more to us?
Shakoosh Kabir
29-10-03, 06:33 PM
Some have even been heard to remark that their wives are better organisers, financial managers, drivers, footballers, weightlifters, winemakers, decorators, gardeners, cooks, parents, teachers, judges, diplomats, politicians, shots and zookeepers than their husbands, but I suppose such people are talking out of their straightjackets.
Mr Tickle
29-10-03, 09:47 PM
Inexorable,
Please tell me that you are joking when you say "wife knows about menstrual period more than teh husband.. "
If not, it is quite the most sexist and disgraceful thing I have heard (and that includes all the neanderthal barbarism I have read from IT over the years)
1) You wrote "for any group of activity , there must be a leader who will be in front when there is any meeting or any problem. BUT this does not mean members of the groups don't share any responsibilities"
You are right. The question is, do you think that the man is the leader in all the many different activities that make up married life?
eg
In the activity of running the garden, running the internal design and decoration, my wife is the leader - because she knows more than me, she has more skill than me and is a better designer than me
In the activity of running the household budget (paying bills, making sure our joint account is in order etc), my wife is the leader because she is far better at handling money than I am and is far more disciplined and organised than I am.
In other activities, I take the lead
So, we are both leaders - and we probably take the lead in an equal amount of activities. This means it is a marriage of equals.
2) The Male Lion is the leader when it comes to defining his area and fighting other male lions. The female lions are the leaders when it comes to hunting and rearing the cubs
Your confusing yourself between the activities and the responsibilities of the man of the house. The husband is looking at the issues from top and his word is the final when it comes to making critical decisions related to the marraige life. This doesn't mean he will not discuss with his wife and get her opinion and also taking her valuabe point of views into consideration. imagine marraige life like a ship in a big sea, so it needs a leader to take corrective actions when needed.
Mr Tickle
29-10-03, 10:08 PM
IT,
You asked me to clarify what I meant by "In every aspect of (married) life, does the husband know more than the wife?"
Even though I know you are doing your typical avoidance of the question, I will humour you by rephrasing it - and then I would like an answer.
Obviously, there are many responsibilities/activities etc that come with marriage - is it possible that a woman can be better at some of these activities than a man and therefore is it possible that a woman could be in charge of some of these responsibilities?
Originally posted by mr pinnochio
Obviously, there are many responsibilities/activities etc that come with marriage - is it possible that a woman can be better at some of these activities than a man and therefore is it possible that a woman could be in charge of some of these responsibilities?
Now better, you need to ask clear questions to get an answer.
We said many times marraige life is share of responsibilities between the couple and there is no problem the husband giving his wife a role but it should not be one side decision. Meaning she needs to discuss with him first before taking any action. And also the husband still monitoring the whole process from top and fine tune the marriage life when needed.
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