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fatak
23-10-03, 08:38 AM
Photography (tasweer) means the taking of pictures of living, animate moving beings, like people, animals, birds, etc. The ruling is that it is forbidden on the basis of a number of reports, such as the following:

'Abdullaah ibn Mas'ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Those who will be most severely punished by Allaah on the Day of Resurrection will be the image-makers." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see al-Fath, 10/382).

Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaah, may He be exalted, says: 'Who does more wrong than the one who tries to create something like My creation? Let him create a grain of wheat or a kernel of corn.'" (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see Fath al-Baari, 10/385).

'Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: "Shall I not send you on the same mission as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent me? Do not leave any built-up tomb without levelling it, and do not leave any picture in any house without erasing it." (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa'i; this is the version narrated by al-Nisaa'i).

Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him and his father) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Every image-maker will be in the Fire, and for every image that he made a soul will be created for him, which will be punished in the Fire." Ibn 'Abbaas said: "If you must do that, make pictures of trees and other inanimate objects." (Reported by Muslim, 3/1871)

These ahaadeeth indicate that pictures of animate beings are haraam, whether they are humans or other creatures, whether they are three-dimensional or two-dimensional, whether they are printed, drawn, etched, engraved, carved, cast in moulds, etc. These ahaadeeth include all of these types of pictures.

The Muslim should submit to the teachings of Islam and not argue with them by saying, "But I am not worshipping them or prostrating to them!" If we think about just one aspect of the evil caused by the prevalence of photographs and pictures in our times, we will understand something of the wisdom behind this prohibition: that aspect is the great corruption caused by the provoking of physical desires and subsequent spread of immorality caused by these pictures.

The Muslim should not keep any pictures of animate beings in his house, because they will prevent the angels from entering. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or pictures."

The one exception is If children need to look at images of human beings or animals, whether these are photographs or images on video tapes, if that is for a purpose – such as children or adults looking at pictures of our brothers in Palestine, Chechnya or Afghanistan – there is nothing wrong with a child looking at some pictures in order to learn. But we should also tell the child that making images is haraam and that this is only done by way of necessity, so that the child will grow up knowing the shar’i ruling.

and of course Al Qaeda training films are fine........

What is your take on this?

Does this include making movies and video?

How about watching movies?

salaam
fatak

Milliardo Peacecraft
23-10-03, 10:05 AM
I thought this issue had been discussed here before...anyway, I am not Muslim, but as I see it, these are outdated and outmoded thoughts. The logic behind these is that images are used for worship; the first 2 Commandments were specific in that images are forbidden when used in worship. It does not, however, forbid images per se (the Ark of the Covenant, for instance, was instructed by God to be made with cherubim as part of the design). Taken to the extreme, the Commandments can be made to forbid any use of images, whether or not it is used in worship. Again, though, like I have noted, such thought has long been outdated, and Islam needs to move on if it wants to survive in a modern world, or else the advancements that some of its adherents have said the West had "borrowed" would be but a memory, and Islam will become a religion of backward thinking and become further and further isolated, which can have dire consequences on its followers and on itself later on.

MusicMan
23-10-03, 11:33 AM
Fatak,

There were no Knoica or Kodak during the time of Prophet Muhammed (p.b.u.h) !

Making sculputers is haram! not photography!

malak84
26-10-03, 03:25 PM
salam

intresting topic!fatak


These ahaadeeth indicate that pictures of animate beings are haraam, whether they are humans or other creatures, whether they are three-dimensional or two-dimensional, whether they are printed, drawn, etched, engraved, carved, cast in moulds, etc. These ahaadeeth include all of these types of pictures.

i didnt know that taking photos of humen beings are haram:confused:?

if it was the case i wouldnt know how my father looks like for my whole life.:rolleyes::confused:


The Muslim should not keep any pictures of animate beings in his house, because they will prevent the angels from entering. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or pictures."

yah,


How about watching movies?

as far as my information says that watching normal movies its not haram , for example they are some movies are from real life stories and its really good to know whats happening in this life, around you, but watching movie which contain somthing haram to see and you get no benifet at the end of watching it , therefore its haram, becouse your eyes at that time doing Ibada, its like any part of your body , and it has to be for good things.

so theis all depends which type of movie you are watching to be haram.

its the same with taking photo's , what do you wanted for?keep it with you , showing people , send it to magazins, ....etc.it depends what do you want to do with it.

when its haram?when your reason of taking the photo is not for good.

LordVader
27-10-03, 03:22 PM
This is an interesting issue...

certainly the video would be as bad as the picture as they would all be haram.... so what do we do about all those massive pictures of the various rulers that a lot of Islamic countries have about the place?

walaah!

Scottish
27-10-03, 11:36 PM
Sorry double post

Scottish
27-10-03, 11:41 PM
How about paintings or drawings? Same difference. Must art be curtailed completely? I mean, if I write a song about my wife, am I not drawing a picture of her? Or a poem, or a story.

I think it was meant not to worship a representation.

Ironically, through history, there has been mistaken beliefs on worshiping of idols.

For instance. The cross is a representation of the suffering of christ. They do not worship the cross, they worship God. The cross is a representation.

However, there were some cultures that placed spirtual importance on the OBJECT. Prevalent in Asia, Africa and South America, they feel that the spirit lies within the object, so they worship the object, not the deity itself.

So, the 3 largest religions place importance on the deity, not on the object. The further back you go, the more spiritual imporance some cultures placed on objects (something they can touch and feel) as opposed to concepts (a matter of faith).

Desert_Sloath
31-10-03, 05:01 AM
fatak dear there is a difference between 'making' and 'capturing'. So, 'making is said to be Haram whilst capturing is not. In this context 'capturing' means 'arresting' image as opposed to 'making' which means 'physically' taking the pain of reproducing a copy of what you didn't make therefore copy rights rules applies to the one mimicking the making of another hence improsonalisation charges could be applied for impersonating that which one is not. I hope I have attempted a logic and Allah Only Knows