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The aim of the following topic is to discuss, in a mature and respectable way, a very commun problem which exists among many couples.

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Ok.......in my humble experience......

I would say that women are expected to suddenly adapt their moods.....and in some cases instantly accomodate their partners mood.......and as I have read on this site, it's her Islamic duty to satisfy his needs.........



A sensitive mate would sense her mood and try to balance his need for intimacy with hers......maybe at times...an embrace or hug would do it.......

Men are very insecure........any sign of rejection is taken as an attack on his mascule nature......women have to learn to cuddle him and manipulate his insecurity......Some women are very good at it......others NOT.

But for sure.......wome who are somewhat forced to make love when they are NOT interested in that level of intimatcy will pretend to accomodate the man's mood......

From this lack of communication and delicate balancing act......she will pretend to climax in hope that it come to an end as soon as possible........

What else can she do.....???

I hear Arab men don't like to hear "No"..

Cheers
fatak

There are several reasons here Xp to faking:

1.Some women fake it to get it over with or if she's tired.

2.If she doesn't care about her partner

3. if he's an inept lover

4.she might fake it so he will "finish."


My question is
Can a man tell if a woman fakes an orgasm?

There are a few signs I know of that are 100%.......

1. if she starts shredding the flesh (some cats do this to the carpet too) on your back.....It's for real......and you hope it's not one of those multiple orgasms.....that will last for like 10 minutes.....

2. if she starts suddenly singing in German, it's a fake, and she is most likely thinking of her last visit to Germany.

3. You can insert an anal temperture device.......and at the moment she is having it.......pull it out and check see if there a slight rise in body heat.....About .73 is right.....anymore, take her to the hospital, any less and it's a fake!!!!

4. If you notice.......she suddenly has alot of wild orgasms before her favorite TV program........or only during commercials.......they are probably FAKE>>>>

Anyway.....most men won't care if they are fake or NOT.....as long as they are having real ones..

Cheers
fatak





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I don't see any reason why a woman will do such thing unless she is a hooker.

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I dont really mind ......as long as I dont know that she's faking.

If my wife doesnt feel like shaking the room...I wont mind getting spanked instead.

I dunno y but whenever I have sex my wife she sings in german:rolleyes: ......wtf:confused:

Originally posted by X-press
1) Why would a woman fake the big "O"


did you forget an "M" there?? did u mean to say big MO? why would women fake big MO??:duh: :confused: :lost:


i don't know what you talking bout ladyX cause there is no faking the big "O" with big MO.

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Originally posted by X-press
Big MO, :D believe me if I tell you that your nick came in my mind when I wrote the title and I wanted to first write: "Not Big MO, but Big O" but didn't want to stain your name, as I know you don't like to be associate to anything sexual ;)
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well i'm glad that women think about big MO when they think about orgasim. ok now we got that cleared lets get down to business.

why women fake an orgasm?

1) Why would a woman fake the big "O and would you men accept if your wife was doing it while with you?

i think most of times it's all about the man's ego and pride but sometimes they just not in the mood to go on and like to end it right there and then. however if you're a clever man it shouldn't end right there cause a man gotta get his as well. therfore there are other means than intercourse for a man to ejaculate, so sorry baby you gotta work some more. we have some unfinished business here.
no men generally don't accept their partner to fake it.

2) If you don't accept this idea, would you agree if your wife doesn't climax at all no matter how hard you try to satisfy her?

you're talking Chinese to me here ladyX. i'm yet to across a woman who doesn't orgasm. that's just standard thing. this is like saying you put fuel in a car but there's no exhaust to relief the fumes. every woman orgasm, it's up to the man to study and know all the right places that make her tick.

3) Can an intimate relationship without orgasm survive?

i can't see why not. the man has to buy her loads of jewelry though.

Sorry X-press.......

2) If you don't accept this idea, would you agree if your wife doesn't climax at all no matter how hard you try to satisfy her?

Naturally it would be difficult for me personally to NOT give pleasure or have it returned.......I wouldn't accept it....but would try to understand it.......maybe I'd have to check my attitude.

3) Can an intimate relationship without orgasm survive?

Yes.......my most intimate memories were of my german sheppard.......when I was a boy......nothing to do with it.

Intimatcy has many forms......sometimes just a touch or look is enough......and besides how about older people in their 60's or beyond? Many have a fine balance without it......Sometimes just getting to the goal can the best part......

........"they" means "The men"

I think many men don't a hoot if their partners are satisfied......as long as they get theirs......sad but true.....

From Ms Ward007
My question is
Can a man tell if a woman fakes an orgasm?
Answer........No, I can't.......100%....but hard nipples.....can be an indicator!!

Cheers
fatak

Originally posted by X-press



Icy, I am surprised to hear such an answer from an (apparently) experienced man like you!

Don't you know that a woman doesn't have to be a hooker, nor a bad girl, do fake orgasm. Let me tell you that a lot of women, all over the world, do that sometimes during the course of their relationship and this simply because they can't always climax (or have no desire to climax) but still want to show their partner that they indeed enjoy what is happening.

I think you didn't get my point, I meant why should we call it fake becasue the husband will feel what is going on and he will notice that she didn't climax. So nothing fake now, it's all clear that she is not in the mood but even though the husband will still enjoy it with or without her.

One of the reasons which is related to religion and we have mention it many times. That the wife shoudn't reject her husband when he want to have sex otherswise she will be cursed by the angels until the morning. If she is not in the mood and knowing what her religion telling her she will fake it to make her husband happy and to fulfil her religious obligations with regard to this point.

To tell a woman who isn't in that mood that she is cursed by the angels until morning......If she is to be good muslim......??? Is that REALLY TRUE ACCORDING TO ISLAM or just Ice Tea's world?

Fulfilling her religious obligations means lying about her feelings?

So lying is OK because she is following religious feeling first?

Now I am really confused.......what kind of religion is this?

Obviously designed with the man's sexual desires in MIND>sorry girls.....but if Mr.Sabla says it..it must be true.....!!!

Cheers
fatak

Originally posted by Big MO

you're talking Chinese to me here ladyX. i'm yet to across a woman who doesn't orgasm. that's just standard thing. this is like saying you put fuel in a car but there's no exhaust to relief the fumes. every woman orgasm, it's up to the man to study and know all the right places that make her tick.
:duh: MO :duh: MO mmmh Sex also need knowledge and skill :rolleyes: :lost:

But then there r limits to sex Icey between a husband and his wife
She is not an animal!

Originally posted by fatak
To tell a woman who isn't in that mood that she is cursed by the angels until morning......If she is to be good muslim......??? Is that REALLY TRUE ACCORDING TO ISLAM or just Ice Tea's world?


It's true fatak, you need to update youe Islamic knowledge :)


Originally posted by fatak
filling her religious obligations means lying about her feelings?


Why should she lie, and we can't really call it a lie in such issues. If both of them are satisfied then no problem.

Originally posted by fatak

So lying is OK because she is following religious feeling first?


Same as above.

Originally posted by fatak

Now I am really confused.......what kind of religion is this?


You know what kind of religion is this and you have posted a new thread yourself about it. I S L A M.

Originally posted by fatak

Obviously designed with the man's sexual desires in MIND>sorry girls.....but if Mr.Sabla says it..it must be true.....!!!

Cheers
fatak

Who is Mr.Sabla :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Homeless
But then there r limits to sex Icey between a husband and his wife
She is not an animal!

What limits homey?

what if he was a monster and wanted to do it 7-8 times a day!!!!

Well..........this is news to me. Never been through this agony before and above all I hate anything and everything fake.


Or perhaps women fake Orgasm for the kind who go straight to the desert as Lady X said about it elsewhere in the sabla....................................



[ They go straight to desert because, they care less of taking the time to see what comes before it. They don't realize that to enjoy fully a "meal" (if I can put it this way ), they need to at least taste the starter, then savour the main-course and give themselves full satisfaction by completly it with something sweet.

Maybe also they go straight to desert. because they are so hungry that they see only the desert on the table, forgetting that they are also other wanderful "dishes" to enjoy too and which can't be left untouched... ] Unquote Lady X.

The above lot no doubt will have it faked by their women as they are less polished less sophisticated and fail to grasp the art of love making.




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Originally posted by Homeless
what if he was a monster and wanted to do it 7-8 times a day!!!! According to IceTea you have no choice. Better buy the soap and shampoo in bulk ;)

oh my god!
I dont think that is what islam wants!!!!!!!!!!

ok she shouldnt put off sex but he shouldnt treat his wife like an animal. She is not his sex machine only.

Originally posted by Homeless
what if he was a monster and wanted to do it 7-8 times a day!!!!

If she feel that she can't satisfy her husband fully then there is no problem to recommend to him to get extra wife, and he will study her request based on his resources and ability and take the corrective action.

Originally posted by Homeless
oh my god!
I dont think that is what islam wants!!!!!!!!!!

ok she shouldnt put off sex but he shouldnt treat his wife like an animal. She is not his sex machine only.

Who said a husband should treat his wife as an animal or sex machine :rolleyes: ofcourse not.

Originally posted by jack
According to IceTea you have no choice. Better buy the soap and shampoo in bulk ;)

Buying it in bulk will be cheaper also. :)

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That the wife shoudn't reject her husband when he want to have sex otherswise she will be cursed by the angels until the morning
I think even angles will not curse woman if she is tired or not in mood, but sometimes woman have lame excuse and they try to avoid their husband so may be those woman should be cursed.

IcT sex is not duty heeee!!!! Let me say this, sexy is a very lovely part of a person, but sexy itself is not enough, what matter is how passionate u are to make love to someone. I think men who demand sex when his wife is not in mood or she might be tired are very hopeless and boring big time :tiered:

Originally posted by UmHamed
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I think even angles will not curse woman if she is tired or not in mood, but sometimes woman have lame excuse and they try to avoid their husband so may be those woman should be cursed.


Even if she is tired or not in the mood she needs to sacrifice for the sake of making her husband satisfied, it's also not good to leave him boiling the whole night.

Originally posted by UmHamed
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IcT sex is not duty heeee!!!! Let me say this, sexy is a very lovely part of a person, but sexy itself is not enough, what matter is how passionate u are to make love to someone. I think men who demand sex when his wife is not in mood or she might be tired are very hopeless and boring big time :tiered:

It doesn't mean he is boring if his wife is not in the mood, there could be alot of reasons related to her personality and other factors.

Originally posted by UmHamed
:duh: MO :duh: MO mmmh Sex also need knowledge and skill :rolleyes: :lost:

You d@mn right sex needs knowledge and skill. it's all about how and when to move. it's all about finding the woman's spot. different women have different spots that make tick.

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Note: some pple are going too far with the subject and are being rather disgusting. There are non-adult around here , so watch out. and please discuss that matter in proper islamic way.

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Originally posted by X-press

I actually heard that there is a very high percentage of women who can't reach an orgasm through their partner only and need extra stimulations for this to happen. If these stimulations are not performed, the women will never climax.



ladyX, if a man spends a lil' more time on foreplay there's only one outcome for the lady. for those women who find it hard to orgasm foreplay is the key word. don't ignore it, use it and abuse it. should never quit it, you gotta hit it and satisfy the lady with it.

I also read many articles where it said that some women are frigid, meaning that they are unable to enjoy sex. Sadly enough, no matter what their partner will do to them, they will simply not feel any excitment about it. It is sad but such women do exist.

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I think most men can't tell if a woman fakes an orgasm, for the simple reason that most of them can't even tell or feel when a woman is having one !

I like it when the lady is like screaming....."I'm coming I'm coming".......in Bulgarian....is best, just in case the neighbors are listening in!!!

I usually just ring a little bell next to the bed..."Round 1".....ting!!!!ting!!!!

I rarely make it pass the 6th round......

The other thing I can tell for sure......is when she has a headache........I get that a lot.......massive headaches.....suddenly.......like we live near a nuclear reactor or what????

Cheers
fatak

Originally posted by IceTea


Even if she is tired or not in the mood she needs to sacrifice for the sake of making her husband satisfied, it's also not good to leave him boiling the whole night.

If that the case...I don't see a reason why should a man blame a woman for faking it.

Originally posted by H-Highness
If that the case...I don't see a reason why should a man blame a woman for faking it.

She is blamed in all cases, she should not lie to him to give him his rights.

Originally posted by X-press
Though I am not a man, I agree with you here too fatak. I think most men can't tell if a woman fakes an orgasm, for the simple reason that most of them can't even tell or feel when a woman is having one :rolleyes: !

Possible if a Men is Dumb and inexperience he can be cheated all the way, But Smart men and experienced one he can not be faked he will find out, unless he wanted to please his partner he will just keep quit..

Originally posted by H-Highness
If that the case...I don't see a reason why should a man blame a woman for faking it.

Women has the Duty to please her Husband at any given time, so Women should stop games..

Icy and Sleyum

Duty and Feeling are two different things. It could be a woman's duty but it has to be at right time to be more enjoyable and I think it work vice versa with men also.

I rest my case

Originally posted by H-Highness
Icy and Sleyum

Duty and Feeling are two different things. It could be a woman's duty but it has to be at right time to be more enjoyable and I think it work vice versa with men also.

I rest my case

By the way Nice photo of yours I knew at the end you gonna use your original photo keep it nice decision...

Sure, But again duty does generate feelings, and ofcourse everything has its right time and right moment, you dont expect things so happend so suddenly, We all have to have right Plans

Originally posted by Sleyum
By the way Nice photo of yours I knew at the end you gonna use your original photo keep it nice decision...

Sure, But again duty does generate feelings, and ofcourse everything has its right time and right moment, you dont expect things so happend so suddenly, We all have to have right Plans

Are you kidding? i mean ok eventually you would enjoy ''doing the deed'' but you should never be forced into it. Duty = Feelings Whatever!!!?!??? You just contridicted yourself there my buddy Sleyum .....you loose your case!

Originally posted by H-Highness
Icy and Sleyum

Duty and Feeling are two different things. It could be a woman's duty but it has to be at right time to be more enjoyable and I think it work vice versa with men also.

I rest my case

Thats right it has to be at right time which is at bed time.

Right time being when they r both in the same mind frame. IceTea you want to enjoy then you should not limit yourself to ONE time as you put it :p

Originally posted by Wardat_il'7leej
Right time being when they r both in the same mind frame. IceTea you want to enjoy then you should not limit yourself to ONE time as you put it :p

Even if one of them not in the mind fram, the other can synchronize both and get to buisness. :p

Originally posted by X-press
1) Why would a woman fake the big "O and would you men accept if your wife was doing it while with you?

2) If you don't accept this idea, would you agree if your wife doesn't climax at all no matter how hard you try to satisfy her?

3) Can an intimate relationship without orgasm survive?


Members, I count on you to keep this thread as clean as possible.

1. I believe a lot of women would actually fake it because they jsut want to get over and done with it. its like men tend to have the urge of having sex mroe than women if you come to think about it, and not all the time the man would want to have sex his woman would really be in the mood for it. So to avoid you know letting her man down by saying "no thank you i am not in the mood" she would just fake it.

2. I am not a man but to answer that question i wouldn;t be surprised if a man that minds, as its again to do with his prides, its like many would think like "damit i couldn;t satisfy her, why ? what am i doing wrong?! and so many questions would rise. some men would go to the extend of thinking she might be having an afair

3. Hmmm i don;t really see how?! I mean if 2 ppl are very intimate but than one of them don;t seem to go through orgasim how cna it survive!!! Plus how can it even be called Intimate as thats when to people are really in lvoe, which they want to share whatever passion they have with their partner!

One member did ask if a man can find out if his woman is faking it or not - it really depends really some man can and some can't.. as we said in the previous thread - women are very good in faking a lot fo things, and very rare a man can know. But there are men who can easily make out, espeically if a man who knows his wife very well, you know he cna make out the way she is when she truely goes through orgasim and when she is not, but faking it!

Originally posted by Sleyum
Women has the Duty to please her Husband at any given time, so Women should stop games..

And the same thing goes to the man my dear friend - as much as how much duty a woman has towards her husband its the same duty a man has towards his wife!

So don;t give me this bull$hit of Duty just for the woman side - otherwise you better just stay SINGLE all ur life dude, as you will be one bad husband :D

Plus there is another thing which I can't seem to understand - how can one really have sex if he/she is not inlove with his/her partner?! I mean if there is no passion between 2 people how can they really have sex together?!

Does it come to a stage in marriage life where 2 people fall out of love and yet they have sex ?!!

I don;t think that I can really go through such a thing - i mean I make love to my husband because I lvoe him and i am so passionet for him - and its a very touchy way to show how much you love them and all - but than just for the sake of ahivng sex .. I really doubt it very much that I can do that not at all!

Maybe you're just not very good at it. Or you're too small. There's no reason for a woman to have to fake it, if you have experience. Some of you guys may just hop on like a rabbit, and think that's what a woman wants or needs. Unfortunately, it's only what you want or need.

If you're done in 15 minutes, you wasted your time, and hers. Proper lovetaking takes a minimum of 2 hours. Not all of that is the big bang, fellers, it's build up, finish, warm up, build up, finish, etc. If you're only doing it once, you're simply lazy.

Originally posted by Scottish

If you're done in 15 minutes, you wasted your time, and hers. Proper lovetaking takes a minimum of 2 hours. Not all of that is the big bang, fellers, it's build up, finish, warm up, build up, finish, etc. If you're only doing it once, you're simply lazy.

LoooooooooooL that made me laugh

Originally posted by Scottish


If you're done in 15 minutes, you wasted your time,

It's good for after lunch sweet ;)

Originally posted by Wardat_il'7leej
Are you kidding? i mean ok eventually you would enjoy ''doing the deed'' but you should never be forced into it. Duty = Feelings Whatever!!!?!??? You just contridicted yourself there my buddy Sleyum .....you loose your case!

That's right Warda Nothing should be forced at any given time, Men a Women are All Human being and they should be a compromise for whatever will satisfy both, Muture agreement is a success for both partners, They should both generate inner feelings to be able to get the maximum benifit..

Originally posted by RareDiamond
LoooooooooooL that made me laugh

That means you are Ready on your Feb Big day without being Nervous in the first night:D :D

Originally posted by Neena
And the same thing goes to the man my dear friend - as much as how much duty a woman has towards her husband its the same duty a man has towards his wife!

So don;t give me this bull$hit of Duty just for the woman side - otherwise you better just stay SINGLE all ur life dude, as you will be one bad husband :D
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Neena..
You misquoted Me, I am. and have been the Women defender and fighter for their right, You are Right The Women has the Same Equal Rights, as the same Men has on the women, No one is Superior to each other we are all in the same level of Equality.. And that's why I will be The best Husband to whoever will be the luckiest Women to be my Wife:D :D :color:

Originally posted by Sleyum
That means you are Ready on your Feb Big day without being Nervous in the first night:D :D

:duh:

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Originally posted by X-press
2 hours! :tiered:, isn't it a bit long especially if it is done on a daily basis? What do you exactly mean by "if you're only doing it once, you're simply lazy"? Can a "normal" man truely experience orgasm more then one time?


x-press - YES a man can go through orgasm more than once dear ;), some man can go through more than 8 times u will be surprised!

And 2 hours for a one session I don’t find it at all hmmm surprising, it can even go longer than that, of course if 2 ppl are taking there sweetest time rather than rushing things!

Originally posted by Scottish
Not all of that is the big bang, fellers, it's build up, finish, warm up, build up, finish, etc. If you're only doing it once, you're simply lazy.

Could'nt have said it better ...

1) Why would a woman fake the big "O and would you men accept if your wife was doing it while with you?

either cuz she is tired, not in the mood, or simply cant get there with this particular guy. Personally I don't like my wife to pretend, we ride together, we come together !!! :D

2) If you don't accept this idea, would you agree if your wife doesn't climax at all no matter how hard you try to satisfy her?

If I cant get my wife to climax, then its a problem that we must work our way through.

3) Can an intimate relationship without orgasm survive?

hmm ... a relationship can survive ... Intimate relationship, I doubt it ... if one half is not sexually satisfied, then they might survive, but they wont be happy ... sex may not be everything in a relationship, but it is one of the most important things ... unless your both sixty and cannot handle it any more :P

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I will never Do it if The other part doesn't wants it!! - I WILL USE MY HAND INSTEAD!!!


For a women to get orgasm You need to be in my shoes, It's depends on a Man's Sex appeal. For Eg: I look very Sexy but not handsome :( !!!


You see what I am trying to say is that, Even if a guy look handsome But still this guy maybe doesn't have the Sex attraction!!


Men has Two Ditinctive features!


That's why sometimes you hear that a White married Women runs Away with a Black Man!!


Whenever I wear Dishdasha, girls say I wanna lick ya!

Ya Baby Ya!

1) Why would a woman fake the big "O and would you men accept if your wife was doing it while with you?

Not acceptable at all. Open channels of communication and honesty should help to correct it.

2) If you don't accept this idea, would you agree if your wife doesn't climax at all no matter how hard you try to satisfy her?

If there was no certain 'minimum' degree of attraction to each other in the beggining ... why did you end marrying together. Three letter word is not the most important thing in life, but it is still important for any well balanced relationship.

3) Can an intimate relationship without orgasm survive?

Hard to say, depends on how repressed the woman was while growing up. In this society, most likely will survive - in other societies where women are more independent of their choices most likely not.

Originally posted by MusicMan
For a women to get orgasm You need to be in my shoes,

Your replies are always out of line my dear MusicMan...wandering how did I do all this time as I really don't recall being in your shoes :rolleyes:

Originally posted by X-press
Your replies are always out of line my dear MusicMan...wandering how did I do all this time as I really don't recall being in your shoes :rolleyes: Maybe MusicMan has a foot fetish....guess there could be worse things. :blush:

Originally posted by X-press
I am not surprised Neena, I am shocked :eyes: !!! I always thought that one a man "came", it would be very difficult for me to "get up" again and this unlike women who can experience multple orgasm in one single intercourse.

Maybe a man can go through 8 orgasms in a day if he has separate intercourses and rest in between...:lost:

Trust me x-press - there are men out there who can cum more than 8 times at the same time. You see everyone man differece from the other, there are man who are just very weak, where cumming once would be enough, and there are other man who would ve slighly better than the first category, and than you come acorss other type of man you call them the Average type, and than you got the very good and the EXTREAM :)

Some man would for sure want to take a rest from one orgasm to another, some just got the power.

Originally posted by MusicMan
For a women to get orgasm You need to be in my shoes,

Originally posted by X-press
Your replies are always out of line my dear MusicMan...wandering how did I do all this time as I really don't recall being in your shoes :rolleyes:



I was talking to Guys when I said that!!!

When you will meet me personally Than you will know what I mean!


You will say: "I want this guy in my bed" future quote: X-press

[i]Originally posted by MusicMan
You will say: "I want this guy in my bed" future quote: X-press

That was one rude statement you made there Music Man, especially to a married woman !!

Originally posted by Neena
That was one rude statement you made there Music Man, especially to a married woman !!

And Especially when she was so nice to me!!

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Originally posted by X-press

Neena, I am learning something new thanks to your post, but you can't tell me that such a man falls in the "normal category". I suppose multiple orgasmic men are hard to find.


I would not fall such man under the Normal Category, i would more likely say they fall under the above average or so!

ANd yes x-press such man are very hard to find, i totally agree with you, but than to come and think of it in a differen't way, if a woman happens to climex 7 times more than the man, what would happen to her if she falls with the above average men?!

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And if these two "uncommon" people were to get together.

Think of all the drapes and blinds being torn down, broken chairs, broken sofa arms, torn clothing, dent in the washing machine lid.

Not to mention the disturbing the piece police calls by the neighbors.....please stop them.....their killing each :p

Originally posted by X-press
Neena, if a women is with an average man, how can she manage to climax 7 times with him :lost: He has to be very good for her to achieve such a high number...

I might be wrong, but I don't think that a woman, who manage to reach non-stop 7 orgasms in a row, can be 'classified' as a commun/normal woman.

Well, you got a good point there, oviously for a woman to actually manage to climax 7 times, she only has to be with above average man. As those are the only man who can handle her "if she happend to be her self sll too high that is"

But hey... do you think its hard to satisfy such above average man?! in your own opinion?!

2 hours! , isn't it a bit long especially if it is done on a daily basis? What do you exactly mean by "if you're only doing it once, you're simply lazy"? Can a "normal" man truely experience orgasm more then one time?

Good Lord. You need to find yourself a Scot. :wink: We wear kilts because pants cannae hold us. :wink:

Why do you think we go to bed so early. :eyes:

People think very linear. I've been with my wife 21 years now. Many times I've been away from her arms, and I hated those times. Now, that I'm with her, I can't ever imagine being without her. I suppose virility and stamina are for those that lead an active life.

It doesn't hurt that I have the most beautiful wife on the planet.

Well.......aren't we getting alittle personal here?

Whose counting what?

Since when does quanity count over quality?

Like that one I had in 1997.......rocked the house.......

Recently.......our lovemaking has become a religious experience........because all I am hearing is."Oh My God!"...........

Sorry bad joke......a Jinn made me do it!!!

Zsia!!
fatak

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scottish
[B]Good Lord. You need to find yourself a Scot. :wink: We wear kilts because pants cannae hold us. :wink:

Scottie,

I had that you guys wear kilts because it's difficult to take your pants down and also hold on to the sheep......

Hi there,

An women doesn't have to be a hooker, a bad girl to do fake orgasm. I think for men sex is a phisycal desire, it doesn't require emotional envolvement. But for women sex is mostly dependent on her desire and care to the beloved or caring partner. They need love, care and emotion to fulfill their extream orgasm. Sometimes they try to show that they are satisfied to get rid of the course which she did not attend volantarily or to show that her partner that she is satisfied on the base of her care to the partner.

Hasnain
hasnain1967@hotmail.com
km_hasnain@yahoo.co.in

"Loveless sex is making love, caring & emotional sex is fruits of Love. Which can satisfy both with huge joy"

I apologize for some spelling and grammatical errors in my writings. And I don’t have a choice to correct those. Please consider my errors. :blush: :bang:

Originally posted by Hasnain
I apologize for some spelling and grammatical errors in my writings. And I don’t have a choice to correct those. Please consider my errors. :blush: :bang:
Mr.Hasnain u can correct your posts by clicking the "edit" button in the bottom of your post.

Scottie,

I had that you guys wear kilts because it's difficult to take your pants down and also hold on to the sheep...... [/B]



:D Hey, wait a sec.....:fire:

Just kidding. Heard them all. Good hit Mate.

Originally posted by Hasnain
Hi there,

An women doesn't have to be a hooker, a bad girl to do fake orgasm. I think for men sex is a phisycal desire, it doesn't require emotional envolvement.


I totally disagree with you there Hasnain big time, how can you even say that!! You make it sound that MEN are animals .. and they just don’t have any sort of feelings what so ever!

I mean yes I know there are a lot of MEN out there who would have sex for the sake of pleasure, and just to loosen up and all, but than a man wouldn’t really climax more than 4 to 6 times if his emotion are not really there don’t you think so!?

Neena, I've seen many WOMEN that have no emotional attachment to the act either. As you have to.

It is unfair to smear only one sex. Both are guilty. You are to tell me, that every wife MUST have one, or MUST have multiple, simply out of love? Or that she is even obligated to oblige everytime her bloke wants some?

There's a time for romance, and there's a time for a good snog. That doesn't make love any less.

Out of curiosity. Why is everyone so hung up on numbers? How many orgasms, etc? If you think sex is based solely on orgasms, or the number of them, you ignore the fact that it is, and should be, about love, togetherness, unity.

The meeting of two bodies, forming into one bond, as a representation of love. It is not just desire or lust. It's deeper then both of those completely shallow emotions. It's about a gift from God, to be cherished, valued, and prolonged.

Hey, that sounded romantic, and sounds as if I truly love my wife, unconditionally.

I'll put a stop to that!!!!

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So you are saying that a man does need to have any attachment in order to be intimate where a woman has to..!?

Than tell me, a hooker, is a type of woman who basically has sex for money, and I do not believe that all those man she sleeps around with she would have some sort of emotional attachment to be intimate.!!!

I know do know man can have numbers of intimacies, without having any sort of emotion Involved - but my question is why?!

Originally posted by Neena
I totally disagree with you there Hasnain big time, how can you even say that!! You make it sound that MEN are animals .. and they just don’t have any sort of feelings what so ever!


Dear Neena,

I am very sorry dear and i think that u have misinterpret my sayings or explanation. May be i am not good in writing or furnishing the facts.
In fact i wanted to mean that most MEN are vulnerable to physical contact by opposite sex and they come to climax in short time whether their partner is satisfied or not. But Women are different they need more care and desire to orgasm.


Sorry if i am wrong

Best regards
:blush:

Quote [ I know do know man can have numbers of intimacies, without having any sort of emotion Involved - but my question is why?! ] Unquote neena.

I have answered that question many times before. This primate called man, is a polygamist by nature and it dates back to our cave dwelling days, man conquers and mates with many many females without having any emotional atachment to all the rest except his resident spouse.

If you read charles darwin books on evolution of man for sure it will enlighten you further. As a person I have seen a lot, seen my self or friends sleep with a different woman everyweekend just for the sake of tasting one more trophy or sheer adventure it.

BTW this was long time back.

Originally posted by Mti
Quote [ I know do know man can have numbers of intimacies, without having any sort of emotion Involved - but my question is why?! ] Unquote neena.

I have answered that question many times before. This primate called man, is a polygamist by nature and it dates back to our cave dwelling days, man conquers and mates with many many females without having any emotional atachment to all the rest except his resident spouse.

If you read charles darwin books on evolution of man for sure it will enlighten you further. As a person I have seen a lot, seen my self or friends sleep with a different woman everyweekend just for the sake of tasting one more trophy or sheer adventure it.

BTW this was long time back.

I agree with you on what you wrote in the post. Thank you.
Being a man i can tell you that i feel attracted to female but don't do sex with them for moral values with obligation to spous , religion , social value etc. But i feel attracted. Being honest i can tell you; most male feels so. Women may feel attracted too. But they mostly feel it with emotional way. Male ? if emotion and care is there its best to the pleasure of sexual goal if not, not a big problem, their sexual goal will be achieved most or a bit less.

SORRY FOR THE RUDE FACT .

Okay - if that is the case, i may know the answer, but I just want to hear it from the male members of the sabla. When can a woman know if this guy actually does have some sort of emotional feelings towards her of course during intimacy!?

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Originally posted by X-press
I think qais explained very well, even if some men might agree on this or not, or women accept it or not. He is talking about the majority of men and there is no really answer as to "Why"...they are simply by nature "like that".

Their 'animal' instinct (if I can say) is the opposite to our 'motherly' instinct and in a way, it is strange that we were create so differently.

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It might be a blunt exemple, but for many men, when they want to have intercourses, it is similar as when they are hungry. They need some food and it doesn't really matter what is on their plate, at the moment that at the end they fill their stomack!

They might not even realize that what they are eating is spicy, sour, sweet or even good, and they don't necessarily need to know. What is important for them is that it is food (period!).



:color: hey, this is what i ment to say:color:

Okay - i am sitll waiting for my question to be replied to.

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Well Neena answering your Question ...

I guess its different from guy to guy ... every guy has his own way of showing emotion ...

I think its fair to say that ... after its all done .. thats the time to see whether that guy really has emotion towards you or not ... but yet again .... it depends on the guy ...

personally I think the way a guy SHOULD show emotion is before, During and after Sex ... (if we are simply talking about sex) .. its nice when u cuddle a lil, show some appriciation and say how much u mean to each other, it helps bring back the energy for another round :D ... and ofcourse keep the Love Alive

[Originally posted by Neena
When can a woman know if this guy actually does have some sort of emotional feelings towards her of course during intimacy!? ]


Well.............this how I see it. After intimacy one would kiss his wife's ears and whisper " Honey, You are heavenly sweet, Thank you for being YOU! [ sincere and loving emotions ]


Mistress...............Wow Jane! never knew you had so much energy bottled up in you, I guess its my luck to have the chance to drain it all. Pillow talk.........starts..........SO how is the office? blah blah.............[ No emotions ]


One night stand.................. after the coitus is over.......Phew............"You are a great ****er! where did you learn these tecniques from??" You light a cigaret and start a dull conversation like......"What was your name again.....? Yeah Irene .....how long were you this trade? blah blah.........while the guilty feeling set in you while lying next to a hooker......[ No emotions of any kind towards her ]

Originally posted by Mti
[Originally posted by Neena
When can a woman know if this guy actually does have some sort of emotional feelings towards her of course during intimacy!? ]


Well.............this how I see it. After intimacy one would kiss his wife's ears and whisper " Honey, You are heavenly sweet, Thank you for being YOU! [ sincere and loving emotions ]


Mistress...............Wow Jane! never knew you had so much energy bottled up in you, I guess its my luck to have the chance to drain it all. Pillow talk.........starts..........SO how is the office? blah blah.............[ No emotions ]


One night stand.................. after the coitus is over.......Phew............"You are a great ****er! where did you learn these tecniques from??" You light a cigaret and start a dull conversation like......"What was your name again.....? Yeah Irene .....how long were you this trade? blah blah.........while the guilty feeling set in you while lying next to a hooker......[ No emotions of any kind towards her ]

The third one is for sure tells how much a dog a man can be for sure, and obviously it tells as well that there is no emotion what so ever in him towards the woman he just had sex with especially that it was a One Night Stand thingy!

Okay i will say the way I think about this issue, my self, of course i am saying it out of experience my self.

I believe when a man really loves and is very much passionate about his woman, he would want to take everything very slow, you know .. not like get to the bottom and bang bang bang. and everything is over!! :D

Not only that, but i believe as well after a very good session, there would be nice conversation being talked, towards each other, not like the guy would just stand up and go and take a shower straight away, or light a cigarette.

I guess, just like x-prss said, a woman who really ahs the sixth sense can for sure tell if her man is really passionate about her and loves her to the extreme or not.

I can’t think or even imagine actually being with a man who has no feelings for me what so ever, it just does not really click my mind at all. I really don’t want to even imagine how some women or even men are treated with their partners!

Originally posted by Sleyum
By the way Nice photo of yours I knew at the end you gonna use your original photo keep it nice decision...

Sure, But again duty does generate feelings, and ofcourse everything has its right time and right moment, you dont expect things so happend so suddenly, We all have to have right Plans

Maan...you're talking about domestic rape.

Originally posted by Neena
I can’t think or even imagine actually being with a man who has no feelings for me what so ever, it just does not really click my mind at all. I really don’t want to even imagine how some women or even men are treated with their partners![/COLOR]

Well Neena, we often hear about "Broken Hearts"...the woman is so in love that she can't even see that her partner might not share the same feelings.

Other women hope that with time, because they are in love and caring themselves, their partner will end up eventually loving them too. However, it doesn't always work that way...

I guess this is another topic :)

Maan...you're talking about domestic rape.

Forgive me for being such an idioit.......

Is there such a law in Islam?

Have any Arab men been taken to court for it?

I thought the muslim woman has duty to satisfy her husband at all times according to Islamic practices......???

salaam
fatak

Originally posted by Neena
Originally posted by Neena
When can a woman know if this guy actually does have some sort of emotional feelings towards her of course during intimacy!? Okay - i am sitll waiting for my question to be replied to.

Dear Neena,

If the case is mine my wife or partner will definitely know whether I am paying attention to her satisfaction / orgasm or not. The approach of male and the act of male will definitely show the emotion and care toward his partner. Kiss and warm hug combing through partners hairs and kisses on her nose forehead eyes chin hands and else where without sex organs are also sign of love care or emotion to each other.


Hope i am right :blush:

[ Unfortunately, if a man believes that a woman has a reduced sexuality, compared with his. And if he treats her as his sexual possession, he will USE her sexually. He may condescend to stimulate her sexually in a perfunctory way, but his real objective is to reach his orgasm at his speed without really considering her sexual needs. If HIS woman manages to reach an orgasm during sexual intercourse that is great, if she does not, he need not worry unduly, as women are KNOWN to be less sexually responsive than men. But, paradoxically a man may expect a woman to reach an orgasm during sexual intercourse, preferably simultaneously with his orgasm. If a woman fails to reach an orgasm, the man may feel sexually inadequate, his masculinity a suspect, as he has learnt that a man GIVES A WOMAN ORGASM so that he will not feel disappointed, or to protect his masculine self image, many women attempt to FAKE orgasms. ]

Page 43
EVERYWOMAN—a gynecological guide for life.
Dr. Derek Llewellyn-Jones
OBE, MD, MAO, FRCOG, FRACOG

I recommend Lady X , Dr Rafee and neena read the above book.

Originally posted by fatak
Forgive me for being such an idioit.......

Is there such a law in Islam?

Have any Arab men been taken to court for it?

I thought the muslim woman has duty to satisfy her husband at all times according to Islamic practices......???

salaam
fatak

Well well...I have never come across similar case may be because it considered shame to sue your partner for what happens in the bedroom. You either live with it or let it go.

While I do believe its duty for both partners to satisfy one another at the same time considering their feelings.

Originally posted by Mti
[ Unfortunately, if a man believes that a woman has a reduced sexuality, compared with his. And if he treats her as his sexual possession, he will USE her sexually. He may condescend to stimulate her sexually in a perfunctory way, but his real objective is to reach his orgasm at his speed without really considering her sexual needs. If HIS woman manages to reach an orgasm during sexual intercourse that is great, if she does not, he need not worry unduly, as women are KNOWN to be less sexually responsive than men. But, paradoxically a man may expect a woman to reach an orgasm during sexual intercourse, preferably simultaneously with his orgasm. If a woman fails to reach an orgasm, the man may feel sexually inadequate, his masculinity a suspect, as he has learnt that a man GIVES A WOMAN ORGASM so that he will not feel disappointed, or to protect his masculine self image, many women attempt to FAKE orgasms. ]

Page 43
EVERYWOMAN—a gynecological guide for life.
Dr. Derek Llewellyn-Jones
OBE, MD, MAO, FRCOG, FRACOG

I recommend Lady X , Dr Rafee and neena read the above book.

Mti - Thank you for that :) infect I love reading and if i am in Oman where can i get such a book?!! unless i order it from abroad!!

Plus - I believe that woman in general are less sexually responsive, that is very true, but than isn;t it a man's duty to actually put his woman in such a mood, where she can respond betetr in this?!

As there are some men who would not really give much of a dame on how about to satisfy his woman. Not only that, but whether she actually go through orgasm or not, its not his biggest concern, as long his totally on top of the world!!

Thanks Mti for the recommendation. ;)

Neena

I am sure you will find the book at the SQU main library.

Originally posted by X-press
If achieved simultaneously it is great, but most of the time it is not the case, as they reach their peak at different intervals...

Thanks Mti for the recommendation. ;)

I found female gets the goal of orgasm while they are hungry for it or they were eager to do the course. Even often they meet the goal far before the mens while women started the play. Ofcourse if she gets stimulation from her partner.


Naturaly men needs less time to orgasm then women. Its natural because men doesn't require much stimulation on course.

Stimulation only makes the orgasm more perfect and thrilling for men.

Hope I am right.



Thanks dear member

OK, I can only speak for myself, I hope I don't ramble on here.

I led a very active life in my youth, read that as you will. I have never had meaningless sex, they all meant something to me. Several times, I almost got married, but was too much into the college thing.

How do I show intimacy? The same way anyone else does. It's how you look at someone. I can't help shooting out love looks at my wife, even after all these years. Especially because of all the years.

I was, er, involved with many women before her. It's not my emotional or cultural hang up. I'll explain that in another thread. Fact is, that women are beautiful creatures. Each unique in her wants and needs. But there are basic, er, features, that are common. I'm not a brute, I was chased as often as I chased them.

I, as a man, understand that a woman has needs and expectations. I try to fulfill them, best I can. By worrying about the others needs over your own, you both obtain the desired result. Sex is not about selfishness. It's not about pleasing yourself. It's about pleasing the other person. That's why it takes awhile. Every time is different. What was good last time, is old news this time. So, it's a matter of concentrating on the other. It's not difficult folks. Just stop being selfish, self conscious, let it loose, and howl at the moon if that's what it takes.

Most people are so repressed, it's a wonder they enjoy it at all. It's the abandonment of expectations that makes it great.