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IceTea
26-09-03, 11:53 AM
The Jews and Christians said no body will enter the heaven unless Jew or Christian and Allah replied to them:


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And they say. `None shall enter Heaven unless he be a Jew or a Christian.' These are their vain desires. Say, `Produce your proof, if you are truthful.'

The muslims on the other hand said our book clone their books (i.e Christian and Jew books) and our profet is the seal of all profets, so we should be the one to enter the heaven.

Then Allah made it clear to all by revealing below verse and judge between them with regard who will enter the heaven and who will enter the hell.


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"It shall not be according to your desires (i.e what muslims say), nor according to the desires of the People of the Book(i.e what Jews and Christians say). Whoso does evil shall be requited for it; and he shall find for himself no friend or helper besides ALLAH."

"But whoso does good works, whether male or female, and he or she is a believer, such shall enter heaven, and shall not be wronged even as much as the little hollow in the back of a date-stone."


So two criterias to enter the heaven:


1. The person should be a true believer.
2. The person should do good deeds.


And in below verses we can see above two criterias repeated in many Quranic verses:


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"Verily, those who believe and do good works, and humble themselves before their Lord - these are the dwellers of Heaven; therein shall they abide forever."



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"And those who believe and do righteous deeds - them shall WE, surely, house in lofty mansions of Paradise, beneath which streams flow. They will abide therein. Excellent is the reward of those who labour for good,".

Desert_Sloath
26-09-03, 09:42 PM
Definitely Tomas bin Eddy or Thomas Edison. Certainly not Enshtain or Sharon for that matter.

BliNd_MelOn
27-09-03, 05:27 AM
I certainly don't know.... :confused:

jack
27-09-03, 05:56 AM
IceTea1. The person should be a true believer.
2. The person should do good deeds.So by this definition, I'ts looking like I have a good chance if I continue on my path.

1. The person should be a true believer.
I am a true believer in one God.

2. The person should do good deeds.
I did a good deed yesterday and try to help other human beings every chance I get.

May even share it with ya'll at a later date. ;)

Enigma
27-09-03, 06:23 AM
In the end only Allah will decide who goes to heaven.

IceTea
27-09-03, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by jack
IceTeaSo by this definition, I'ts looking like I have a good chance if I continue on my path.

1. The person should be a true believer.
I am a true believer in one God.


How come you believe in the Trinity and you said you are a true believer?

Originally posted by jack

2. The person should do good deeds.
I did a good deed yesterday and try to help other human beings every chance I get.


Thats a good step.

Originally posted by jack

May even share it with ya'll at a later date. ;)

Why not :)

jack
27-09-03, 06:28 PM
Let's just say there are things in the Bible that I have conflicts with as I have conflicts with things in the Quran.

As far as the good deed I mentioned, I am still waiting to see if my actions will reap the desired results. It concerns a legal matter and I really don't want to reveal any details at this time.

IceTea
27-09-03, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by jack
Let's just say there are things in the Bible that I have conflicts with as I have conflicts with things in the Quran.


I'm not satisfied with the above answer.

Do you believe in the Trinity or not?

jack
27-09-03, 06:37 PM
I'm not satisfied with the above answer.I believe in "one" God. What more do you need to know?

Seham
27-09-03, 06:40 PM
"Oh, baby heaven is a place on Earth!" who sings it again? We are all going to heaven!

IceTea
27-09-03, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by jack
I believe in "one" God. What more do you need to know?

Don't run away from my previous Q, still waiting.

jack
27-09-03, 06:55 PM
Here's my answer. I believe in "one" God. Which part "one" do you not understand?

IceTea
27-09-03, 07:04 PM
How about the Trinity, do you believe in it or not?

I don't know why you are afraid to say Yes or No.

jack
28-09-03, 03:32 AM
My God is the same God as your God and the Jews God, in no paticular order.

All "one" God.

silver_ring
28-09-03, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by jack
My God is the same God as your God and the Jews God, in no paticular order.

All "one" God.

but your god has a wife and kid while our god does not

fatak
28-09-03, 08:12 AM
Jack......watch out for Ice Tea......he's a real Omani driver.....he will tailgate you and honk like a Cairo taxi driver......and then WHAMM!!!..........you get a warning from sabla moderators.......

PS.....will Gandi and Mother teresa be in heaven?

Cheers
fatak

IceTea
28-09-03, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by jack
My God is the same God as your God and the Jews God, in no paticular order.

All "one" God.

So what is Profet Jesus PBUH to you?

Again I didn't get any answer about the Trinity, what is your opinion about it, is it a man made theory?

jack
28-09-03, 09:07 AM
"ONE GOD" for Muslims, Christians and Jews

How's that for a trinity? ;)

IceTea
28-09-03, 11:04 AM
jack you are ignoring my questions, answer now and don't be afraid from sanwin and others :)

jack
28-09-03, 11:22 AM
"One God" :bang: What's the matter? You don't want my God to be your God? Or is it something else?

Arabian Princess
28-09-03, 11:27 AM
I go with What Enigma said ..
Allah decides who enters heaven and who doesnt .. its not us to decide!!
not all muslims will enter heaven thats definte.

fatak
28-09-03, 11:32 AM
and for sure it ain't up to Ice tea!!!!!!!

PS....Although I am sure he thinks only his beliefs will be the key that opens the gates.......

Cheers
fatak

IceTea
28-09-03, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by jack
"One God" :bang: What's the matter? You don't want my God to be your God? Or is it something else?

Ofcourse I want.

But why are you running away from answering my questions about the Trinity and Jesus.


AP, Everybody knows that Allah will decide, but as per the Quran the criterias are be a true believer and make a good deeds. Now it will be Allah to judge that above criterias are really met by each human being.

jack
28-09-03, 12:26 PM
Per the Quran

You asked me to behave. I did not do what you said.

You kicked me from your bed. I still did not do what you said

Now you are beating me repeatly. And I still won't do what you say.

I'm not your *****.

About the criteria, I have already said.

I already told you I am a true believer in "One God".

I also told I try to do goods deeds and help a fellow human being every time I get the chance.

Lastly Allah/God will be the judge in the end for both of us.

Azure
28-09-03, 01:32 PM
i hope i'll be amongst the ones go to heaven :color:

IceTea
28-09-03, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by jack
About the criteria, I have already said.

I already told you I am a true believer in "One God".

I also told I try to do goods deeds and help a fellow human being every time I get the chance.

Lastly Allah/God will be the judge in the end for both of us.

Ok,

You said you believe in "One God", my questions are:

1. Who is your God and where is your God?

2. What is the book you follow to pratice your religion to be a true believer?

3. You said "my God same as your God", now your God order you to do something do you obay or not?

Big MO
28-09-03, 04:29 PM
who will go to heaven???

hopefully all good people.