it came to my mind to ask u this question and especially Girls...
but before it i'll just say the meaning of "Anorexia Nervosa" which mean eating disorder characterized by refusing to eat, fear of obesity and a disortion of body image..

Now the question is why do girls care alot of their body image especially the girls who are teenager???!!!

about being health is more important than being soo weak and look like skelly !!!

what do u think?? i want ppl to particepate in this coz i feel its a common behavior among the girls...
u can give some advises coz maybe some of them are reading this topic now :)

Good topic, Naughty..


well, I think here is where the problem is : turn on the TV and watch what the actresses an dcelebrities look like..buy a magazine and see what most ladies look like?! Look for example at teh famous BarBie dolls..how are their bodies????? see,, girls grow up learning that being thin is equal to beauty...and people are becoming prejudiced against fat people..

Long time ago
Fat & chubby = Cute and beautiful

these days
Fat = Ugly
Thin = beautiful

Unfortunately what u have said is all right :(

i dont think i can say much about it,,, but it really irritate me how do these girls think and its our responsibility to give then a health education and what can their ideas lead them to problems..

Incedently, a friend of mine from Gabon was telling me that she doesnt have to be obsessed with being thin as in her home country, fat women are considered much more beautiful..plus it indicates that they are healthier and wealthier :rolleyes: :D !!


Maybe Fat gilrs should consider going to Gabon :p:D

Bimmy,
I think the same applies in Salalah Oman :)

Well a very intresting topic Miss Naughty, I am quite chubby girl .. when I check my surronding I sometimes wish I could be like those thin girls in TV. Ofcourse am not crazy enough to make my self starve and live a misrable life, but beleive me the media aroundus are really playing a very high effect on the imagie a person wants to be.

NOw, can u tell us what are the symptions of anaroxia?

Great topic :) and it is indeed a common problem among teenagers.

But let me stop you for a second, regarding the body shape, neither fat nor thin is beauty, it's actually somewhere in the middle. I see you supporting fat people and degrading thin ones :rolleyes:


I've got a few questions,

1- Can Males be anaroxic?!

2- Are there any treatments discovered yet?!

i blame media first and unfortunatly many ladies follow the madia..

regarding its treatemnt...
it is mainly treated by the following::
-education based intervention( about diet and regular diet),
-psychotherapy: individual based, psychodynemic, interpersonal, cognetive and behavioural therapy, family therapy and group therapy.....

these are some psychiatric modalities for treatment.. and they have shown some great effect in treatment...

about medical treatment:
these are mainly to manage the patient if he is in critical condition like correcting her nutrition , electrolye balance in the body because vomiting is dangerous and these patients sometime induce vomiting ... and also take care of dental health, and pregnant lady with this disorder..

in term of drugs:
anti-depressant are used but they don't cure but they can improve the weight..
ant-psychotic are used for obsession and anxiety..

but in order to get the best result, first u have to fight with denial that patient has , and this is the main problem..

anorexia nervosa, 90% are female patient but 10% are males...:D

exactly what i was thinking to answer...
which mean FaHaD ..
u took my answer !! :rolleyes:

soory ma qasdii:weep:

loool..
i didnt mean it , but i meant is that u brought it in a nice and professional way!!!
so its good :P

i kept thinking alot about this girl.. i'll tell ur her case and i woud like u help me understand her case.. and thanx in advanse

This is a girl who was admited in the hospital in psychiatric ward bcoz she had fainted at home..she is 16 years old and her weight is ONLY 29 kg and of corse she was diagnosed as Anorexia Nervosa when the doctor saw her of corse he told her she has to eat and gave her some advices, e.g. that she'll not be discharged if her wight didnt increase to 36kg .. ok this is not my point..
my question is ..
when the girl went the doctor told the doctor and the nurse who were there with him "This is a typical case of ECT :6: (Electroconvulsive Therapy)"
but why do the Dr. want to do for her ECT since she doesnt complain of any depression and by the way this girl is very clever and good in her studies.. so i feel that ECT will affect her and her studies ????

so why ECT?? i dont think its important that much?? :confused:

Eating disorders (anorexia/bulimia etc, which often go together) are not often about food or weight. Body dysmorphia in general (problems when you percieve yourself differently from others, can't see that you're fat/thin/muscular or whatever) is a manifestation of other psychological problems.

Although their role models might be uninterested in physical appearance, girls especially can begin to obsess about their bodies because they are stressed or unhappy. It's all about control. One of the definitions of stress is an inability (or percieved inability) to control important aspects of your life. In eating disorders, the sufferer can attempt to compensate for this lack of control over other things (personal freedom, self-esteem, frustrated love) by sublimating it into excessive control over their eating. As Fahad said, medical intervention only really makes any sense in the last most desperate circumstances. The best treatments involve counselling, peer group therapy or psychotherapy. Every disorder is different, but the 'control thing' is a pretty consistent element in anorexia/bulimia. Self-harming in other ways e.g. making small cuts on the forearms or legs is often associated. The sufferer's mind, often unconsciously says 'the only thing i can control is me.....i can't stop this person abusing me, but i can stop eating........i can't stop them hurting me, but i can do it myself to they can see how it hurts'.

It's a very difficult and alarming illness to deal with, like most psychological problems. But the important thing like anything else is to recognise the cause, not the symptoms.

thanx maimosa for the informations..
regarding ur question miss naughty,

Lectroconvulsion therapy (ECT) is used to called electroshock therapy(EST) when first introduced in 1938..
The problem with this the fear of people cos they get scared that the doctor is going to introduce electricity to the body..

But it is well known that it is a safe and effective way of treating major depression disorder, manic disorders and acute schizophrenia ( but not chronic) and also it iis sometime used for other disorder like catatonia, atypical psychosis, obseeessive-compulsive disorder..etc.

Regarding the history u gave miss naughty, patients with anorexia nervosa mostly present with depression and I think the doctor followed the criteria of major depression disorder and the patient end to have it with the anorexia… and this can be treated by anti-depressant drugs but ECT is more effective and safer than drugs..
ECT may reliev severe depression within 1 week but the full benefit requires several treatment over a few weeks..
And is found by controlled studies that up to 70% of patients who failed to respond to anti-depressant medications may respond positively to ECT… and now ECT is considered as first line therapy fr major depression disorder…

thanx alot mimosa for particepating and it was really nice to give these information and thanx to fahad too .. it was usefull to ask.. u know u guys helping me alot in my studies ,,thanx again :D

Some anorexics (people with an eating disorder) are hospitalized and forced to eat (with permission from their guardians).

Do you think that the guardians have the right to force these people to eat? Are you for it, or against it?

Ofcourse!! They are doing it for the anorexic's good!!

At that time, the anorexic thinks that everyone is against him/her, but that's not true.. everyone wants the best for him/her!

forcing them to eat is part of the treatment and that's foe their own good. anyway i won't call it forcing they aer given food gradually as they can not tolerate it.

Of course it's for their own good!!

These people wouldn't be there if they had eaten normally in the first place! So yes, they have to be forced to eat! It's the only way to help them.

Well, they are doing it for the patients good.. so I dont see whats wrong. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Phoenix
Do you think that the guardians have the right to force these people to eat?


What do you mean by "these" People?? Lady watch your words!


First of all you don't know what you are talking about and from where did you got the report of force feeding!!!

I myself have sufffered Anorexia and I am still fighting it!

Once I eat to kill my hunger and minutes later I get Nausea (Puke :yuck: ). Who the hell in his/her right state of mind would force feed an Anorexic person!!!!


You really have dissapointed me Phoenix! Ouch! :sad:

Originally posted by MusicMan
[B]What do you mean by "these" People?? Lady watch your words!
Doh! I mean anorexics. I don't need to watch my words, it comes naturally.


First of all you don't know what you are talking about and from where did you got the report of force feeding!!!
Thank you very much for your concern but I do know what I'm talking about.


I myself have sufffered Anorexia and I am still fighting it!
Allah y3eenak. :rolleyes:


Once I eat to kill my hunger and minutes later I get Nausea (Puke :yuck: ). Who the hell in his/her right state of mind would force feed an Anorexic person!!!!
Anyone who is mentally stable and has an ounce of common sense would force feed them. They have to be fed one way or another. What are we supposed to do? Let them die?

Your case might be an exception though.


You really have dissapointed me Phoenix! Ouch! :sad: Oh, you poor baby. :rolleyes:
Sorry I don't live up to your expectations, but you're just going to have to accept that and move on. Where to? I don't know, since you're not likely to go far anyway.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Phoenix

Oh, you poor baby. :rolleyes:
Sorry I don't live up to your expectations, but you're just going to have to accept that and move on. Where to? I don't know, since you're not likely to go far anyway.:rolleyes:


Like i have always said : "When the Cat will go, The Mouse starts dancing"

Phoenix I will let Afraa/hotchick/Beautifull Girl/ and others (I forgot the names lol) to Deal WITH you!!!

Now we are Talking Fun!!! - on your expense!

Originally posted by Phoenix
Some anorexics (people with an eating disorder) are hospitalized and forced to eat (with permission from their guardians).

Do you think that the guardians have the right to force these people to eat? Are you for it, or against it?

I find this very stupid to the MAX - I mean ... why on earth would someone starve them selfs to death just because they happen to really want look bloody skinny. I find that act so silly and for sure SICK.

During the time i was in Australia - there were a lot of such cases from Females who are aged between 16 to 25 years old. They were very much suffring from such an ilness to the extend a lot ended up dieing.

I believe that the gurdians of those ppl who suffer from such an ilness should have the right to force them to eat.... because if they continue with their lil stupid idea of not eating at all, it would just KILL them!

Music man, I'm sorry to hear that you've suffered from anorexia. And this should not be taken for granted, this is a serious problem, a psychological illness, that really requires immediate help. I just want to say that you must be very strong to be fighting it. The first step in handling this problem is to admit that you've got a problem, and it needs a lot of patience and a strong will.

Why is it so common? It's because of our society, we praise those with beautiful bodies, and we appreciate them for how they look, and without knowing, we hurt other people's feelings, who try and reach up and so they start to starve themselves, until it gets out of control.

I don't need to watch my words, it comes naturally

What are we supposed to do? Let them die?
Your case might be an exception though.

LOOOOOL Nixy, You've made my day!! :D :D

Thanx a bunch. :gap:

Originally posted by Dr N
Music man, I'm sorry to hear that you've suffered from anorexia. And this should not be taken for granted, this is a serious problem, a psychological illness, that really requires immediate help. I just want to say that you must be very strong to be fighting it. The first step in handling this problem is to admit that you've got a problem, and it needs a lot of patience and a strong will.


Thanks Dr. N,

First of all I am not happy to disscuss this issue In this Thread! - Coz it is Helighted so Immaturaly!!!


Dr.N, still I do have a lot of problem with food!

It's not that ppl donot want to Eat But It's that they don't feel like to eat!

Whenever I eat Dinner or Lunch, I don't even really want to hear the word "Food". It gives me Nausea!! Last night I dine at Chillis later I felt sick!

I never have any Appetite nor the will to taste different Cusine's - All I need is a Cooked meat with a tempting taste!

I don;t like Pasta's, Kus kus nor Rice, vegetables (make me sick) and so so many things which the rest of the world loves!!!

I do take a lot of Vitamin Pills! At the moment I am 50kg and 6,3" . Which is going stable for a long time!

I Admit that it's a Major Problem!

Originally posted by MusicMan
Like i have always said : "When the Cat will go, The Mouse starts dancing"

Phoenix I will let Afraa/hotchick/Beautifull Girl/ and others (I forgot the names lol) to Deal WITH you!!!

Now we are Talking Fun!!! - on your expense!

what the...? :confused: :duh:

Originally posted by Phoenix
what the...? :confused: :duh:

Look, I don't pay for sex! - So stop stalking me!!!!

Afraa will chat with ya.

from Anorexics , force-feeding of then lil fight between music child and that chicken and now about Sex welll ...

what is next ...

I really think this should be taken a bit more seriously, so come on guys.;)

Music man, I know what you mean. That's how the anorexic really feels. He/she just can't stand the smell or sight of food. And like I said, it takes time to get back to the normal life, and many people find it difficult to get over it.
There was a thread that was opened once in the health sabla about this topic, maybe I can try and find it and bring it back to life, should be helpful!

Originally posted by Phoenix
Some anorexics (people with an eating disorder) are hospitalized and forced to eat (with permission from their guardians).

Do you think that the guardians have the right to force these people to eat? Are you for it, or against it?

I think this idea is good for poor people who don't find anything to eat, so they will be happy to be forced to eat good food in the hospital.

Originally posted by Dr N
I really think this should be taken a bit more seriously, so come on guys.;)

Music man, I know what you mean. That's how the anorexic really feels. He/she just can't stand the smell or sight of food. And like I said, it takes time to get back to the normal life, and many people find it difficult to get over it.
There was a thread that was opened once in the health sabla about this topic, maybe I can try and find it and bring it back to life, should be helpful!


Dr N, From my side I really don't think it's abt time!

The daily life troubles like work, home & love are the major contributor to worsening situation!

I remeber once I lost 5kg in a week, when I was in love with a girl!!!

So I if i get another bad love exp. really things will get worse for me!! - I don't go on beaches Actually I never went!

I remeber once when I went to a night club wearing jeans! Everyone was thinking that I am having Aids, and I am an Addict!
This mentality is really sick even in a diversed society like Dubai! - wat will happen if i go to Keralla (India) where only ppl with big tummy are considered normal!

its just like your mama forcing you to take you medicine... i'm totally with it :), if u dont have a healthy diet you could die, anorexic people dont realize that at the time, but once there done with their treetment they'd see how blind they were .

Originally posted by MusicMan
Look, I don't pay for sex! - So stop stalking me!!!!

Afraa will chat with ya.

who in their right mind would even for one moment consider stalking you?!

Originally posted by Phoenix
who in their right mind would even for one moment consider stalking you?!

Tell That To Urself!

Musicman, did you consider taking psychology sessions again? I'm sure it would be very helpful to have someone to talk to, someone who's experienced enough in this field to help you. You seem very vulnerable. We all go through a lot of trouble in our daily lives, we all need to struggle, some have a greater strength than others, and you need to be able to cope with all this stress.

Originally posted by Dr N
Musicman, did you consider taking psychology sessions again? I'm sure it would be very helpful to have someone to talk to, someone who's experienced enough in this field to help you. You seem very vulnerable. We all go through a lot of trouble in our daily lives, we all need to struggle, some have a greater strength than others, and you need to be able to cope with all this stress.

Dr N, Yes I am a Vulnerable person extremely vulnerable.Yes it's very simple to Get me aggressive, Readon for this is that I am sad! Really Sad.

I really like some ppl in this place Sabla Even if they tell me something wrong But it still won't make me Crazy and Nasty!

But If someone has never had a good will aproach TOWARDS ME and comes up with something against ME! - Then I swear ONLY GOD can STOP ME! and i get existed with war of words.


Yes Dr N, I have done things which you can't even think of! I have been to thousands of Forum and Doing nothing but making troubles! - Then so everyone dislikes me(which i dont care) and they talk bad about(i dont give a $hit)! So I feel happy that they Talk about me atleast So thats means for me that I am an Entity, I Exist. but I get pi$$ed off Only If someone Ignores me!

If a girl refuses me! Then I start to call her prostitute and lesbian, Just as a Self defensive tactic! - I really dont know why I do it and funny thing is that I dont even mean it!

Is this a psychological problem? or I am just a cold and Black hearted person.

MusicMan, I'm not an expert in psychology, but I'm sure that you really need to see someone. I've got an idea of what might be wrong, but I need to go back to my notes to refresh my memory and give you a more accurate answer, and I'll get back to you.

For the main time, stay cool.:)

Originally posted by Dr N
and I'll get back to you.
For the main time, stay cool.:) [/B]

Doc, where r u?

I tried looking for my psychology teacher today, couldn't fine him anywhere, so give me some extra time, I'll get you an answer, that's a promise.

Please People stay discussing in the main topic anorexics..

I think Dr.N you should answer Musicman by opening a new thread about psychiatry or by pming him with what he is suppose to do. and in the mean time please members dont go off topic and lets make this thread usefull to all.

A'salamu Alaikum warahmatu allah.

What i know about anorexics people is that the best thing to do is to make them feel happy and should give them unconditional Love. this decreases the risk of their life.
I know that her/his doctor , freind, family should force her to eat but with patient and love. there are also many medication for this phenomena as well alot of warnings for the youngster's who take their model's whom are skinny. they also blame the TV and media for making a big fuss with those pettite or skinny girls.

Anyway, this is what i barely know about this topic and i hope others can help answering the question more in depth.

Originally posted by Dr N
I'll get you an answer, that's a promise. [/B]


Doc Will I be Ok?

I need you Doc! :help:

before i start ..walla u guyzz got mood in some topics and u'll be replying and discussing .. i have open such a thread long time and noo one was interested in it as if noo one knew the meaning of anorexia and i have explained it that time ..

about the topic anorexia ppl get force to eat but if they didnt tolerate and was still refusing to eat the will apply for them NGT (Nasogastric tube) which is inserted from the nose till the stomch .. and as i know when i was in the psychatric depatment i saw cases of anorixia which doctors were ending giving ECT which is electric shock .. i'll try to tell u more about it if u want to knoow ..

and about pills as music man said yes they r given antiemetic drugs to help them not to feel nauseated and vomit :tiered: about other drugs i'll tell u later coz im not sure ???!!!

Miss Naughty informed me about another topic on Anorexia i merged them together as it contains useful information

thanx alot 4 ever young ,.,,
and sorry phoix i wanted ur thread to be in teh top but they said it cant be coz i posted first .. the main thing is to get the information u need and im sure u'll like it ,,,

sorry for being away for such a long time,
dear members let us take the subject seriously.

MusicMan, hope u get recovered soon in sha' allah. regarding your problem i think the answer is not in our hand because to my understanding you have quitely gained information about anorexia and i think the bets solution for u is to get a psychiatric help. try to visit any nearby psychiatric clinic since the are the people who are experienced in these cases. they know which person need ECT and which person needs drugs and which one need psycho therapy.

the one in sultaan qaboos university hospital is nice and got advance equipements. it is free u just need to pay 1.200bzs for the card