View Full Version : why wars are only taking place in Muslim Countries?


silver_ring
18-09-03, 12:44 AM
I don't know why people never try to inquire why wars are only taking place in Muslim Countries: Bosnia, Palestine, Iraq, Burma, Philippines, as well as the persecutions that the Muslims are exposed to everywhere in the world.

Why is Turkey refused as a member of the NATO As well as a member of the European Union?
Is it really because of Human rights?
Why is Albany the poorest country in Europe?
And why is the NATO still present while the Warsaw enemy is no longer performing?
What justifies the NATO's subsistence?
Communism is no longer a threat. So perhaps aliens are making their assault on our poor planet. Stupidity! All forces now are directed against Islam, everybody could smell that. Do you really think that Muslims represent a real danger for democracy in the world? !!:confused:
You can infer that may be Islam has got some more sophisticated and powerful system of government which protects the weak and the poor against humiliation and modern slavery.
It is because of this,??!! I guess, that some leaders are working in the dark to burry its revival that they are sure it is for benefit of demeaned people and especially women.
Do you think that Muslims are so bad?
Are they really terrorists?
I have been wondering why all this attack against Islam?
If Muslims are terrorists, there are in the world now more than a billion terrorists. They are in every country and almost in every street. So why don't they start massacring people through blood-squads and organized gangs?
It's stupid to think that Muslims are as such.
Actually Islam is the only hope for the maltreated people in this unjust world. That's why some people are doing their utmost to destroy its image as a religion of peace and tolerance. The name Muslim, itself, means (Peaceful and submitting to God). Islam is all the monotheist religions in one. It is the salvation for the wretched souls in the present hard time of "Might is right".
why wars are only taking place in Muslim Countries

is it bcuz of islam ??

jack
18-09-03, 05:51 PM
Maybe the "fish" has your answer? You know God works in mysterious ways.
http://www.oboody.net/accident/files/wow04.htm

i hate jews .i hate who support them. i love Hamas and ALjihad and Muslims. And no options than resisting You make yourself perfectly clear with your sig. I find that admirable in a person, so there is no misunderstanding about what you stand for.

silver_ring
19-09-03, 11:57 PM
dont tell me that u 'r a jew ??!!

jack
20-09-03, 01:42 AM
silver_ring
Originally posted by silver_ring
dont tell me that u 'r a jew ??!! No I am not a jew, I am also not a muslim :eyes:

I am your worst nightmare, an educated human ;)

sanwin25
20-09-03, 03:32 AM
Ah yes, the ignorant person's worst nightmare.

I quite agree.

Scottish Gal
23-09-03, 04:59 PM
Silver ring, i have nicely asked you before to set your mind straight and what you say about jews.

i dont know how to get through to your mind. :(

i reckon you should travel around the world a bit and meet new people and communicate with new people.

For example, in the UK we had a problem with the halal meat. the government thought that kosher and halal meat was an "evil" way to slaugher the animal for a feast. They wanted to shoot the animal in the head which, they reckon, isnt as paniful as the religious slaughter style. anyway, what happened was that the jewish and islamic society joined together and opposed the plans of the government, which had a really effective result.

Now i dont know why you hate jews.

because i dont.

i hate evil people who deliberately cause destruction - thats all.

Remember silver ring, it is our duty to spread the word of islam, give people information about it and wash away the misunderstandings. You are meant to bring people in not push them out!

And because you have such a negative signature, you already, without acknowledgin are portraying a negative and untrue view.

You might be held responsible on the day of judgement.

peace

silver_ring
24-09-03, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by Scottish Gal
Silver ring, i have nicely asked you before to set your mind straight and what you say about jews.

i dont know how to get through to your mind. :(

i reckon you should travel around the world a bit and meet new people and communicate with new people.

For example, in the UK we had a problem with the halal meat. the government thought that kosher and halal meat was an "evil" way to slaugher the animal for a feast. They wanted to shoot the animal in the head which, they reckon, isnt as paniful as the religious slaughter style. anyway, what happened was that the jewish and islamic society joined together and opposed the plans of the government, which had a really effective result.

Now i dont know why you hate jews.

because i dont.

i hate evil people who deliberately cause destruction - thats all.

Remember silver ring, it is our duty to spread the word of islam, give people information about it and wash away the misunderstandings. You are meant to bring people in not push them out!

And because you have such a negative signature, you already, without acknowledgin are portraying a negative and untrue view.

You might be held responsible on the day of judgement.

peace

i hate evil people who deliberately cause destruction =jews

MoonChild
24-09-03, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by silver_ring
i hate evil people who deliberately cause destruction =jews

My, my. "evil people who deliberately cause destruction" ... like those who blow up buses full of women and children, or nightclubs, or buildings full of businessmen, or .... or .... or....

rather selective in the application of your criteria, aren't you?

(=hypocrite)

that should answer your question about why wars only seem to take place in muslim countries, if they think like YOU...

Shinoda LP
24-09-03, 09:21 PM
Would you kill yourself if you learnt that your ancestors were indeed jews?

IceTea
24-09-03, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Scottish Gal

Now i dont know why you hate jews.

because i dont.





Because they have killed Allah profets.


And read what Allah says about them in the Quran:



And the Jews say, `ALLAH's hand is tied up.' Their own hands shall be tied up and they shall be cursed for what they say. Nay, both HIS hands are wide open. HE spends as HE pleases. And what has been sent down to thee from thy Lord will most surely increase many of them in rebellion and disbelief. And WE have cast among them enmity and hatred till the Day of Resurrection. Whenever they kindle a fire for war, ALLAH extinguishes it. And they strive to create disorder in the earth, and ALLAH love not those who create disorder.


Thou shalt certainly find the Jews and those who associate partners with ALLAH to be the most vehement of men in enmity against the believers. And thou shalt assuredly find those who say, `We are Christians,' to be the nearest of them in friendship to the believers. That is because among them are savants and monks and because they are not arrogant.

MoonChild
24-09-03, 09:36 PM
Any religion that promotes hate must be false.

silver_ring
24-09-03, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Shinoda LP
Would you kill yourself if you learnt that your ancestors were indeed jews?

no cuz i am a muslim now thanks ALLah

IceTea
24-09-03, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by MoonChild
Any religion that promotes hate must be false.

Right, unless it's a peceful religion (i.e Islam).

silver_ring
24-09-03, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by MoonChild
Any religion that promotes hate must be false.

any religion that promotes to believes in more than god .it must be false

Shinoda LP
24-09-03, 11:37 PM
Right, unless it's a peceful religion (i.e Islam).

any religion that promotes to believes in more than god .it must be false

....

Good. The answer to why wars propogate in Islamic countries is because of the mentality of people like you, who can't tolerate other religions and think nothing but Islam is the truth.

There you go. That wasn't too tough to decipher.

SoMe1
25-09-03, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by IceTea
Because they have killed Allah profets.




IceTea hasn’t it ever accrued to you that Allah actually doesn't hate Jews, and therefore why should we, they were cursed. (Were talking about the Bad ones here not Jews in General)

Have you not noticed that he kept on sending them messengers one after another, I'm pretty sure that he gave them many chances to repent and reflect, however when they didn't he Cursed them, still doesn’t mean that they are ALL bad.

They are horrible Muslims too you know
As well as Christians .. etc.

It's Human Nature, you got the good ones and the bad ones everywhere

sanwin25
25-09-03, 03:25 AM
I don't know why people never try to inquire why wars are only taking place in Muslim Countries: Bosnia, Palestine, Iraq, Burma, Philippines, as well as the persecutions that the Muslims are exposed to everywhere in the world.

Maybe you need to ask the MUSLIMS why there are always wars and conflicts in muslim countries / countries where there even a few muslims ?

Hmmm, I wonder why.

Bosnia.. muslims
Palestine... muslims
Iraq... muslims
India...muslims
Burma... muslims (although that there is a 'muslim war' there is new to me)
Phillipines... muslims
Albania... muslims
Pakistan...muslims
Chechnya...muslims
Afghanistan...Muslims
Sudan...muslims
Nigeria...muslims
Somalia...muslims.


Hmmm.....

I just can't figure out what the common factor must be....

:gap:

MoonChild
25-09-03, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by IceTea
Right, unless it's a peceful religion (i.e Islam).

Ah, then you agree with me that Islam promotes hate.

Sure... as long as you hate PEACEFULLY , it's just fine. What about all those muslims who choose to hate forcefully, then?

anyone else sense a logical disconnect? :rolleyes:

MoonChild
25-09-03, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by silver_ring
any religion that promotes to believes in more than god .it must be false

Good then. We now have 2 criteria for false religion.

I note that you don't protest my criteria... and thus agree that your religion is false.

Interesting.

BliNd_MelOn
25-09-03, 05:23 AM
There is a misconception here.. Whenever you guys try to discuss such issues, you go back to blaming the religion itself.. while we are talking here about people's opinion .. whether they are Muslims, Christains or Jews or anything else..

We must differentiate between Islam and Muslims' actions , Jewdism and Jews' attitude, Christianity and Christians' opinions .

In my opinion, Religions are all good.. Being a muslim, we do believe in all three religions. Some muslims even believe that Indian or Chinese religions also started with a real message from GOD himself.. But they have been developed by the people into the concepts we have today.

Therefore, there is no religion that would promote death, killing or distruction. If anybody has a doubt, go back to Islam history and read all about how "Non-Muslims" were treated by early muslims. (Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and followers)..You can also read the Quran or a translation of it, to witness that Islam is talking about a muslim society with non-muslims keeping their own religion.

Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) for example, died while he was instructiong his closer followers (Sa7aba) to take care of the Book holders (Ahel Al Kitab i.e: Christians and Jews) and he said he's going to be asked about their protection in the day of Judgment.

This means alot.. for good muslims.. But our today's problems when we have to deal with killers fighting on both sides, innocent people will suffer. Unfortunetly, some evil people get most of the votes when elected to rule and lead some countries, but this does not make all the nation "EVIL"...

So, when we say Palestine, the war is not between Muslims and Muslims.. It is between Muslims (who were all Christians and Jews before Islam arrived) and Jews, who were scattered all over the world and decided to immigrate to Palestine and take the country over from the original nation.

Everybody knows the story of the Bosniens suffering under the rule of the Serbiens who are Christians...

Muslim Iraqis and American attackers... whatever the excuse was.. Though most Americans did not agree with this war happening in the first place, and time proved that there is no justification for attacking Iraq at all.

So the answer is, Islam is being attacked by non-muslims everywhere in different ways, either economic, financial, social or political, whether Muslims form the majority or minority of the poulation.

And in some cases, the pressure was tremendous which caused some muslims take wrong paths out of frustration and anger in order to defend their stolen rights, or obtain their dignity.

Salam..

Big MO
25-09-03, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by sanwin25
Maybe you need to ask the MUSLIMS why there are always wars and conflicts in muslim countries / countries where there even a few muslims ?

Hmmm, I wonder why.

Bosnia.. muslims
Palestine... muslims
Iraq... muslims
India...muslims
Burma... muslims (although that there is a 'muslim war' there is new to me)
Phillipines... muslims
Albania... muslims
Pakistan...muslims
Chechnya...muslims
Afghanistan...Muslims
Sudan...muslims
Nigeria...muslims
Somalia...muslims.


Hmmm.....

I just can't figure out what the common factor must be....

:gap:

you only talk about half the story. lets have a look:

Bosnia.. muslims, disagree (muslims victimized by Christians)
Palestine... muslims disagree (nothing to do with religion there. it's Arabs (muslims & Christians against Isrlaelis) and if you ask me bot parties are at wrong now)
Iraq... muslims, disagree (Christians invaded a muslim country)
India...muslims, disagree (majority Hindus trying against minority muslims)
Burma... muslims (although that there is a 'muslim war' there is new to me) 9 i have no idea)
Phillipines... muslims, agree (muslim extremist causing all sorts of unrest)
Albania... muslims, (don't know)
Pakistan...muslims, agree (i don't think pakistan is doing enough to stop cross boarder terrorists)
Chechnya...muslims, disagree (come on now the whole world now what the russian Christains did to those muslims. even the US condemed that)
Afghanistan...Muslims, agree (taliban!!! the dark side of islam)
Sudan...muslims, agree (it's a crime what the muslim government is doing to the minority Christians in the south)
Nigeria...muslims, disagree (it's a tribal war over there)
Somalia...muslims, agree


but what about other wars in the world? how come they're not labelled by religion.

Ireland (Christians)
Columbia (Christians)
US (internal war led by KKK) (Christians)
Argentina & UK (Christians)
first and second worls wars (Christians)
and then you have the wars all over the world caused by the Christians invadors from Britian, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Netherlands.

i just feel it's wrong to lable religion to wars. there are some crazy people in this world and they sometimes manipulate the minds of the weak to go to war. most of the times they use religion for their evil intentions.

sanwin25
25-09-03, 04:14 PM
Good point.


Ireland (Christians)
Columbia (Christians)
US (internal war led by KKK) (Christians)
Argentina & UK (Christians)
first and second worls wars (Christians)


However NONE of the wars listed above were in the name of Christianity.

None for fighting for a Christian state. (well maybe Ireland in a round about way).

A little bit different, don't you think ?

Big MO
25-09-03, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by sanwin25
Good point.

However NONE of the wars listed above were in the name of Christianity.

None for fighting for a Christian state. (well maybe Ireland in a round about way).

A little bit different, don't you think ?

the civil war in Ireland is about nothing but religion. and then i can talk about the greatest war in the name of religion in the history of mankind. that's the crusade wars.

anyways those wars got nothing to do with Christianity as a religion cause Christianity is a peaceful religion. it's those evil ppl who misuse religion for their own personal aims. same with those muslim evil leaders who start wars in the name of religion.

but i would agree that now there are more wars in the muslims world.

sanwin25
26-09-03, 03:07 AM
I agree with you MO.

I was just making a point for the feeble brains behind the original post.