why i was thrown like a peace of junk!
what did i do to them?
i thought them..I fed them...I loved them? i cared about them?
they r peace of my meat..they r from me?...why?

whenever i go and visit hospitals i can imagine those eldery people
sleeping on beds saying those words in their hearts
some of them are thrown in the hospital for more than 9 months with NOOOO one visiting them!!!
they r not sick...but their children made them like that!
once i talked with one of them telling him: father..u r ok..u r
not sick..so why dont u go home?
he replyed: Son, I have no place to go to!!!!, my sons dont want me with them?!..WHY?
different reason some...money..some...wife (she doesnt want him/her
in her home!!)...some.lazy...but many...stoned sick hearts!
people..the problem of elder people is great and its growing day
by day...can u imagine....9 months alon like u are cut from this world waiting to die (ALONE!)
i feel sad wallah...but the big question is:
What can we do!? answer me plzzz...!!!..

P.s.another topic from me...participate plzz if u do care
P.s2. ofcourse the influence of a mans wife is great in this issue...but
did this man think for once what will his sons do to him in the future!?
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P.s. kamakazy..never again!...careful!

what happened to the original topic?!!!
how did it got lost .. that's funny.. isn't it?!!!!

Well as i asked Thug4life where is the post he said one of the moderators wont say who!! has deleted it my mistake!! its ok then..
we can talk about this subject over again since its a good topic..

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i cant imagin treating my parents in such an owful way!! i wouldnt even dare think of that..

The heck with your wife/husbend if they dont like it.. it goes like this.. you have only ONE mother/father if they are gone they would be never be reoplaced..on the other hand you can always have more childern yo can get married again... but where will you get another mother/ father?? never again will yo be able to !!

I mean how vould ppl actually do this to thier parents.. i meant treat them in this way leave in a hospital to die alone? after all the father/mother has done for thier children is this the way the get payed for the loving and caring for them ???

Subhan allah.. i have said and will continue on saying that what has become of Ummah Mohammed (PBUH)???

Why cant they afford to look after their own parents??? I mean i cant see any diffculties...ok there might be financially but hey the parents didnt put thier kids in hospital or left them on the streets when the were in financial trouble so why would they treat thier parents this way!!

One day people would recognize the meaning of father and mum.

This is the human being now. The human who brought him to the world is not recognise any more. Is it because he is Old and don't have the power to take care of himself.

When a father wants a son. He expect that the son will help him when he grow old. But now a days alot have changed.

But beleive me there is still people who would care about theire parents.

Never say No. Always say YES.
to them.
and Life goes On.

that is really shocking...9 MONTHS!!!!
I would never do that no mater what!! i would die for my parents!!Coz, my parents aren't just my parents they are my life.

to theose ppl who do that...SHAME ON YOU!!!

Hey girl. good to see you back..
its not the matter or 9 months or what ever.. your not suppose to keep them there for even oneday alon!! how could they dare do that?? what a sham!! im not sure if such people could even see the janna from far away!!

Hii all
nice topic thug4life...
my comment is that this what happening shows to us that we are not living in a normal place anymore...we are living in a foract ('3aba) that make us act like an animls and live like them..i guess that the animals might have heart but i am difenat that the person who doesn't take care of his/her parents don't have heart...really what a shame of them...i am afread that i don't have an answer in what is happening in this world....what i can say is that i will NEVER EVER THINK OR DO such thing like that
HAVE A NICE DAY!!

I personaly don't give a f***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kamakazy: mind ur language!!!

[Edited by Kamakazy on 05-11-2001 at 02:16 PM]

When my late father was in Royal Hospital, next to him was this old Omani from the Interior. Whenever he used to see us the whole family surrounding our father, he used to sob uncontrollably.

He used to tell my father, 'you are very lucky, I feel jealous and envious about you, your family is always with you'.

When my father died from the operation, we told the old man, who cried together with us. Later on we thought we should visit this old man (he looked just like our father did, and we got fond of him - at least we thought we should go to say good-bye to this man. There we met him telling his son to go away, he did not want to see him at all. His son did not see him for more than 2 months!.

Whether it was a compliment or insult (we never went again to see that man), he told his son, 'look at these peoples, we always call them (the famous Z word!) Zinjibaries (My father born and bred in Oman, his father and mother born and bred in Oman, my grandfather and grandmother (mother side) also born and bred in Oman, with exception of us and our mother! - sic!), and here they come to see me, though their father had expired already, and they do not know us from before!!".

It takes two to Tango - we may be blaming one side but forgetting also how difficult some parents can be, or turn out unexpectedly to say things like this old man did to us!!

We later found out that the man had also died in hospital (from family member working in the hospital). His body lay in the morgue for more than 3 days, until the Baladiya threatened to bury it themselves.

Having children is not the answer to one's life, it is what these children eventually come out to be is whether one can be proud or not!!


May Allah be with us all - AMIN.

Please mind you language..and if u dont care about this topic and thought there was no ponit of it...
the way to act is simple DONT POST AN ANSWER TO IT

Think u handle that...i mean by acting the way u did...what is the point of it..nothing

Hey buddy!
i just have one thing to say to you
if you have nothing to say, say nothing at all
thank you!

I agree with u man. It is true.

An old story that i used to hear is that if u treat u're father badley, god will make u're sons treat u the same way u treated u're father.

I know it is a myth, but u know it sometimes makes u STOP! and think before u make a mistake on u're parents.

Everyone wants his son to be the best and to lift his head infront of people and rise in peoples eyes. But u know some people, u just can't understand!

Magic man, where are u from?
Just of curiosity.

Kamakazy: plz no insults



[Edited by Kamakazy on 05-11-2001 at 03:24 PM]

Too bad that you lose your temper really fast.. you are free to express your self in what ever way you wish to.. you don't need to get angry!! we just dont use such words in this sabla!!.. Chill out man!! just say whatever you want to but dont use words with all do respect..

OOpps... i guess i pushed on of ur buttons ha DC..
well i didnt meant to i just thought that..ooh well i know even if i explained my self to u wont get my point!!

But i didnt mean to lower ur personality or someting like that....but i think that if u dont like something u could have said something like "not intersted without swearing !!

That is all!

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Oh my God.

DC this sounds fun for EMINEM.

I wonder if any thing happened that did upset you this much,
Are you an old man who has been dumped by his grand children or what? please tell me I'm curious.

I feel very sad for you man. It's quit generous of you to look just for one finger to give evrey one else one. When I thought about it, I think you'll be left with no fingers, so I'll be more generous and will therefore give you my whole hand. :D

Man, I know how you feel. Life is tuff. :D

You know what, if any of thoes members annoy you just once more, then please give me a call. I'm in your side.I promise you that my gang will sort them out for you,THEY WANT TO BE COWBOYS TOO. :D

OK Mate.


Respect.

:D SLIM

I say be cool,

While i know u're a fool,

Even worse than a bull,

Cause u're like a fool,

who doesn't know what is a rule,

so before u jump into the pool,

Be bold like an owl,

Who doesn't say a*s H*le,

or mother f****rs anymore,

returning back to our pool,

check if it was full,

with Xmen, Thugs4life and more,

else u will come out as a hore,

and will look for some...more,

I mean.....a finger....or more,

I dedicate this to u, u ' khour ',

cause u deserve this and more,

These are only girls for god sack, u hore,

Piece of advice from me Mr Don't care (DC),

always stick to the rule,

That says be wise and cool,

And open u're brains door too, -Door closed (DC)-

Then u'll always be welcome in our pool.

Dear Xman - The anwer is there in my posting. Please read it again!

Regards,


MagicMan.

I like what u wrote KEwl..!!

u r talented huh?

X-man.. i liked that.. it was so kewl!
agool people .. we should get back to the origical subject of this post! and its about Do you Care

check out my name before you try to direct me to be good and nice...does it imply that there could be a chance of reforming me???? don't think so!!! a creep is a creep no matter what... and once this creep get stuck in the game of dimensions, it gets ugly believe me.....sorry couldn't help it... i had to explode....

[Edited by Dimensional Creep on 05-12-2001 at 05:00 AM]

Well i guess you two are right.. i really think that if a child trests hes parents in a bad way he would get it from them hes own sons later on..

This doesnt come out of muslims i guess its all getting to us trough the westen countries..

I mean after all how could you do such a thing to your parents?? i really dont understand?!

And after all if you get into trouble and run back to them they are always there to halp you out and support you.. everyone else could let go of you except your parents .. and at the end how dare you!

some say : its the lack of faith in us responsible for such things to happen?

no one knows what these old men did to their parents , when they were young.

a guy , when he got marriaed , his wife really desliked the FATHER IN LAW , who was very old and used to live with them , after sometime the wife told the husband "Choose bwteen us , either him or me" the husband thought "why does he live , if he is being such dependant" , he took his father to the desert and killed him.When this guy got old , his Son's wife asked him to do the same , so he told his aged father "why don't we go in a tour to the desert" when they reached the desert, the father knew that his son is intending to kill him , as he did to his own father, he said "My son , when i was at your age , i killed my father , and i deserv this now, but i'm fearing your son will kill you for the same reason" the son teared and took his FATHER back home, and insisted to make him live with them all his life.

Another young man one day showed some impatince with his aged father, who could not hear very clearly anymore and asked him two or three time to repeate what he had said.Seeing the irritated expression on his face,the father said"My son, do you remember that there was a day when you were a little child and you asked me what a certain bird was and i told you a sparrow? asked me perhaps fifty times, and i had the patince to repeat it to you again and again without being hurt or troubled about it,i was only pleased to tell you all i knew,"now when i can no longer hear so well, you can at least have patince with me and explain something twice if I did not hear you the first time"

Be Aware , what you do to your parents now, will get the same from your children one day , be nice to old people ,have patince , they are with ya for little more days .

Faisal

ok..again this time am rising this up looking at it and relating it to a diufferent pasrt of our community...i read before few days in a newspaper about this...its about Ibn seena hospital...yeaa..crazy people as u think....though many of them are just psychologicaly ill people..they r thrown there like animals...no one visiting them!?
their families refuse to take them or even they dont care or even they dont want any one to mension to them about it?
where is the sense of humanity...where are their hearts???!!
examples are alot...but what do u think about this?!

This is a wondeful post.. I just felt like crying when I read about that old guy who had died & no body was there with him..
that's strange..
Allah says that if he would ask his "3ebaad yesjodoo" to anybody.. he would ask them to do that to their parents..
how dare could people just throw their parents.. I really can't take it..

Long back, a guy was taking care of his parents.. they were very poor that they use to have milk only before they go to bed.. they had nothing extra to eat or drink.. they were very old.. their child use to work the whole day to afford the price of a bottle of milk for his parents.. he use to go to them in the evening to feed them before they sleep.. once, he was late.. & by the time he reached.. he found them asleep.. he realy felt bad & cryed .. & he couldn't leave them.. cause he thought they were hungry & they may get-up searching for food.. so he decided to stand next to them the whole night with the bottle waiting.. he was standing the whole night till moring when they woke up .. & fed them..
This is a true love that parents should get from their children.. I have never ever heard a love greater than this..

today i couldnt get out the picture of that Old MAn that was shown on Oman TV in a programme about IBIN sina Hospital...
he was crying...he is not Crazy at all...But his Boys abonded him...Do u know what he said!....
He Forgives them from everything they did to him...BUT he only wishes to see them only for once before he dies!!!!...he is in his 80's I guess....
His words still rings in my ears! months after that programme was shown ....Gooosh!

Salaam everyone,
This issue is really sad and I'm so depressed I don't even know what to say. "Inna Allaah yomhel wlaa yuhmil." Allaah will never forgive those who treat their parents this way. Allaah will punish them by giving them such kids who will throw them any where in the future, then they will rememeber what they did to their parents and how their parents suffered ! And if Allah doesn't make those careless, irresponsible sons and daughters suffer in this life, make sure hell is waiting for them.

May Allah bless all of us and our families.

GoodGirl.

Its so sad to actually see this happining in our Society as we are used to see such a thing happining in the West.

Yet, I always saw this coming to oman.. and other arab countries. Infact in Egypt, this has been happining there for so many years now. They infact have houses for eldery ppl, where they are looked after, fed, and all those things ... .

my parents will always be within my eyes. The way i see them treating their parents .. its just so wonderful.

All i can say is that ... may god bless them.... and ppl the last thing you would want is ur own child to Deceive you... and believe me .. the way you treat ur parents it will return back to you. As they say what goes around comes around!

salam all.............

this is a really heart breaking topic........... sad but true such ppl exist......... i agree will all who said that what goes around comes around........... what u do to otheres will be done to u.......i have seen this with my own eyes................

e.g what disintrest that my uncle used to show in his father inlaw today his son inlaw does the same to him............my uncles daughters treat their mother the same way she is currenly treating her father.............its not that she doesnt love him but everything else around her is more important.............

due to various reasons i cannot go through my morning at work without at least meeting them in teh morining and many atimes they are sleeping since our timeings are different i go creep into there rooms (mom dadbros sis all) kiss them and leave, then i call them same if i dont call they will to at least hear my voice not once but several times a day................just like my mom+dad always make sure that we have eaten the same waay we make sure that they have eaten if were eating out or comeing late ...........

but u know what no matter what ur parent has done .........NO MATTER WHAT......... they are ur parents at the end of the day and u ahve to love, respect, cherish etc them for the rest of there lives it is a persons duty as a child where in that persons eyes they did good or bad they are parents and .....also BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER ANY DAY........... so experience has tought me...............

but u know what no matter what ur parent has done .........NO MATTER WHAT......... they are ur parents at the end of the day and u ahve to love, respect, cherish etc them for the rest of there lives it is a persons duty as a child where in that persons eyes they did good or bad they are parents and .....also BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER ANY DAY........... so experience has tought me...............


Great Jawaher..This statment to me says it all! No matter how they are still ur parent who raised you the way you are now..she is still the human that took you in her guts!!
There is nothing to me in this world like a blessing from my parents!
P.S.I pitty those who treat their parents badly for any reson just any reason...

maan mee being in a different society now (UK) i can see the Big difference!!!
where is the family values?? well its around indeed over here BUT its totaly different and hard to find the ideal ones!

the only difference here is the eldery group of people here r realy taken care of By the country rather than the family!!!!!! which brings up much burden to the system over here even MIS USE!!!!!

once u r old here...they can throw u to the nursery house and I saw many cases that their sons and doughters even dont come and visit them!!! How sad!

some cases were by the sons dont see their parents for 10 years or more!!! though they only live apart from each others by mmm lets say 30 mints by train!!!! (horrible!!!)

just wanted to share this!

never the less dont want by this to minimize the problem that we rrealy have in our community (though less obvious and less frequent than the western part of the world)

I rest my case !

I rise my case again with another story:
Typical: an Old guy abonden by his children On the street..Though His boys are enough wealthy.....why?
Just ignorance...when I asked this Old guy why do u sleep outside...(somewere in khuwair) he answered: its a punishment...I did the same to my old man!!!
OOh my god...PEOPLE...be careful! please!

i never thought, that something like this happens in oman, in our beloved oman... i knew the alot of this happened in the westren countries, but never thought...

i was always proud of saying how our parents taught us wen we were kids, to take care of the eldery, respect them, give them help as they did wen we were small,, islam taught us that,, and oman's a muslim country! then why?, i jsut can't understand

reality not always like heaven!