when i was young i used to argue with my brother about my male friends, he believes that there could never be a friendship between a guy and a girl unless he is guy, married, in love or the girl is pretty ugly!
of course i used to disagree but now i strongly agree cause i learned the hard way, but what do you think? does a guy just makes friend with girl with other intentions in his mind? or there could be really a pure freindship between the sexes? and what about the girl? does she really need a male friend? and does she expect more than just friendship?

Well it depends on the mentality of the person 9ar7tan
A narrow minded person would juss a women in a sexual way, an open minded person would see her as a person with her own mind and ideas
Exscuses such as the guy must be gay or that he is married or the gurl is ugly, are totally lame ( sorry for saying that!!)
This kind of friendship does exit, its very healthy, and normal and doesnt involve another type of feelings..
I feel sorry for any1 who thinks that any relation between a guy n gurl must mean love or somethin sexual..

Well - what can I say .. I very much that there is like a completely pure friendship between a man and a woman. It is very very hard to see a man and a woman who have been friends for so long that at least one of them had a thing for the other person or even they kinda did something together even if it was just a kiss etc.

I honestly personally don;t believe friendship between a man and a woman - not that there is no such a thing there is but very very minimam you would see it being PURE friendship!

It doesn;t matter whether the guy/woman is oman minded or not.. it has nothing to do with that.... seena lot open minded guys who end uo sleeping with their very close female friends.. so i believe its nothing to do with how nerrow or open one is!!

I think it's hard to have a relationship with the opposite sex somehow/ someway there are always emotions that control you and change the course of things. I have also learnt the hard way that this sort of friendship does not exist....or better yet does not last.

Somehow having a male friends gives you a different prospective on things that girls do not think about or do not consider. I always appreciated what my male friends would advise me since it was to some extent different to that of my girlfriends.

I think i would contradict myself by saying this but this sort of relationship could exist if both individuals are open minded and do not have secret agendas for being friends.

It's possible to have a real, true friendship with someone of the opposite sex. It depends on the two sides though; the way they think, behave and everything.

Personally, I prefer male friends to females ones. Girl friends can be really b*tchy and a pain in the arse sometimes, but my guy friends are just easier to talk to...



:rolleyes:
Or maybe it's just me.

i can relate but sometimes things can get out of hand and there r mixed msgs?!

Come to think of it, the only drawback is that you can't just say ANYTHING and be 100% direct with a guy friend. Especially in our society and the way we're raised.. some things you just wouldn't tell a guy, whether he was a stranger or a friend.

Modesty is the key word here, I guess.

True dat, but with my experience i was able to tell my guy friends more than i could tell my girlfriends....i guess i was viewing them more as older brother who would protect me no matter what.

Well i had a lot of good very close male friends my self and pheny - i honestly used to prefer being friends with male than females as what you said above... females can be big time *****y no doubt.

It was always hard for me to find a good female friend .. and honestly when i did find a good friend who we were friends fro like a long time .. she stabed my back by trying to take over me and started messing around with my hubby.

I was very much open with my male friends to the extend they knew when i had my periode.. yet it would reach like a point of time where you feel like talking to a female friend ... ... what cna i say!

Originally posted by Phoenix
It's possible to have a real, true friendship with someone of the opposite sex. It depends on the two sides though; the way they think, behave and everything.

Personally, I prefer male friends to females ones. Girl friends can be really b*tchy and a pain in the arse sometimes, but my guy friends are just easier to talk to...

:rolleyes:
Or maybe it's just me.
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Nope Phoenix..It isnt just you... you're looking at someone with more male friends than females!!!
And yes... B*tchy IS the word!
Dearest Bloom...It is possible... I have grown to have more male friends and confind in them more than my other girlfriends...
I would tell my close guy-friends everything.. and it would be ok..

The only drawback though, for me that is, is that they'd start seeing you as one of the guys! I don't mean they start being rough with you.... but..hmm..I dont know how to explain it..
Well..its not entirely bad, I mean they do think you're pretty different than other girls, and they think you're cool and stuff because you're hanging with them... They confind in you, as one of them.. and they talk about absolutely evrything infront of you!!!:twitch:

Hmm...yep this is it... I think this is what actually annoys me..When they talk about other girls and you're there sitting with them... They talk about how pretty that girl is or how cute or nice or blah blah.... and u'd be like... "Hello???" "I'm Here!" "One cute girl is here with you, you idiots!!!!" hehehe.... You know?? :duh:

Originally posted by BliNd_MelOn


Hmm...yep this is it... I think this is what actually annoys me..When they talk about other girls and you're there sitting with them... They talk about how pretty that girl is or how cute or nice or blah blah.... and u'd be like... "Hello???" "I'm Here!" "One cute girl is here with you you idiots!!!!" hehehe.... You know?? :duh:

This is excatly what i was saying - it is not very much true when you say having a male friend wiht out having a least a lil thing .

As we cna see from Melons reply . if you are with a guy who is ur really best friend and u 2 have been close to him .. and he comes up and talk to you about another guy ... the feeling that you would feel " its very much called jealouse" now why on earth would you even feel that way while u 2 are just friends?!

Supposly between 2 friends jealousy shouldn;t be exisiting!

It really all depends on the person itself
I prefer guy friends and trust them more as they dont gossip like girls do. And guys will always be honest with u ... thats ME speaking.
I feel more comfortable talking to a guy and my best friend is a male and he has NEVER let me down 7amdillah nor is he attracted to me..

Originally posted by Neena


As we can see from Melons reply . if you are with a guy who is ur really best friend and u 2 have been close to him .. and he comes up and talks to you about another girl ... the feeling that you would feel " its very much called jealousy" now why on earth would you even feel that way while u 2 are just friends?!

Supposly between 2 friends jealousy shouldn;t be exisiting!
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Hmmm..."sigh" ...Dunno Neena... I'm not supposed to right? :sad:
So..I guess bottom line is... You cant get too close without something happening,either form your side or his!
In my case its always mine!!! :sweat: Sheesh!

Originally posted by Homeless
It really all depends on the person itself
I prefer guy friends and trust them more as they dont gossip like girls do. And guys will always be honest with u ... thats ME speaking.
I feel more comfortable talking to a guy and my best friend is a male and he has NEVER let me down 7amdillah nor is he attracted to me..

Exactly Melon... that is what i am trying to say.

Homey - I prefer guy friends and trust them more as they dont gossip like girls do. And guys will always be honest with u ... thats ME speaking.


Well - I would rather be happy if you say men are less gossipers than Women than saying that men don't Gossip.

Man gossip big time.. infect all what they gossip about is obvious about fulna and 3elna and the girls who was all easy and bothcy whatever just name it.. YEt women would give them a salut for how they take things on how they gossip for sure!!

I agree with Phoenix and Neena in this, it is very possible to have a simple pure friendship with the other sex, I have lots of "female" friends that I trust more than my MALE friends, and I find them much more trust worthy in comparison with 95% of my male friends, it all depends on the other side, of course not every male can establish a friendship with any female. The most pathetic thing is when some OMANI/ARAB girls think that you even say "Hi" to them because you are sexually interested in them.

does a guy just makes friend with girl with other intentions in his mind? or there could be really a pure freindship between the sexes?

It all depends on both sides.... what they have on mind....so best is...to make things always as clear as possible....

such friendship is possible ...as long as both sides are aware of its limits. With that in mind....such great friendships..can be built and last.... and emotions wont affect it...

Originally posted by BLuE_Chi
The most pathetic thing is when some OMANI/ARAB girls think that you even say "Hi" to them because you are sexually interested in them.

it's not just omani girls even omai boys, if the girl asked for a pen from them they will think " she is in love with me!!" HELLO :duh:

i know this story about a girl who never had a male friendand when she started to work this guy started making conversation with her, and they end up sening sms to each other. 1st it was pure freindship then his sms started to contain words like "love you" , "miss you"......etc
and then he started to end all his sms with XOXOX, she told hime frankly that he is just a friend to her, but he said they are more than friends...........then he accused her of playing on him, and playing hard to get, and the end she decided to stay away from him.
so as you see he didn't want her as a friend, he wanted a girl to talk 2 all night and then show off to his friends.

Originally posted by Bloom
it's not just omani girls even omai boys, if the girl asked for a pen from them they will think " she is in love with me!!" HELLO :duh:

:D I have to admint that lots of stupid guys are like that, it is so fuuny, I swear.

there is no friendship between males and females at the end one thing leads to another . i believe that you can be just mates between the two sexes but never friendship .

I don’t believe in friendship between 2 genders. Its kinda impossible in my opinion. Cause one will end up falling for the other, and eventually the friendship will come to an end.
I’m saying this out of experience. I’ve always had male friends and trusted them more than my female friends, cause I have been badly deceived by one of them and so I lost trust in all female friends.
The good thing is that I ended up falling for my best friend, and we are engaged now. He was and will always remain the best friend I ever had.

So falling for ur friend from the opposite sex is good if they were to love u back. Otherwise, it would just turn into a disaster.

Nothing is impossible
u can be friends with a guy without u being attracted to him or vice versa!

i dont see why not. as dede said , as long as you're clear from the start and set the limits then everything should be fine. i personally have a lot of female friends from college or work or even the net , and its all going well al7amdullilah.

even if you were clear from the start, you could never know what the future holds for you, and you can never control the way you feel. friendship - if there was one - could easily turn into something else.

Well...there is something called friendship between a man and a lady, and all of them know that its just a friend.

If u keep in mind that this guy is gonna only be my friend and there is a limit for everything... some of ppl fail in love with their friends and the friend still thinks that he is just a friend.. this way we should explain more to the other side about it.

About myself i have many girl friends and they are really cool, we really understands each other and everything is going well el7amdillah.

Still I say there is no really a pure friendship between a male and a female. As far as it goes and everyone knows it…. You would call him a friend .. and than one night u 2 are talking than decide to meet and hey there you to start getting into it and you 2 later on realize that .. $hit – what have we done .. “ then each one of you start apologizing.. bla bla bla..” same old same old.. and before you know it .. Things between you just don’t seem right anymore!

Just like said .. a secret should only be between 2 ppl.. as the third one is just trouble! Between every man and a woman the third person is Satan!! Now don’t we all know that!!

Baina kulu rajul wa emra'a thalethihum al shain6an " not sure if i said it right!!

If you are only mates – meaning school mate, college mates.. or even colleges at work … yes … that’s possible.. but than to be like a regular meeting between you 2 out going together and all that crap.. Hell no it would continue like that… been there and defiantly seen it all!

Okay – how many of you guys here in the sabla wouldn’t mind that your wives/girlfriends keep in touch with their male friends.

And how many of you girls who wouldn’t really mind your husband’s/ boyfriends to keep in touch with their female-friends?!

Please answer very honestly!!

Neena, friendship does not have to be in the way that you’ve described, number 1, it is forbidden for a Muslim man and a woman to stay on their own in an isolated place, because that is how it all starts. I was actually thinking of the exact same thing, would I still be able to contact my female friends after they get married? And I think yes, I have read a really amazing email about the difference between friendship and love, it was the only email I’ve forward this year, because I really really loved it.

Anyway, the one difference that I remember is that because you love your friend so much, you would love him/her to be the friend of all your other friends, but when you love someone so much you would not want to share his/her love with anyone else. Having a female friend does not that we can go out to the beach after midnight on our own, of course I might be able to do that with my male friend, but I cannot even go sleep with my male friend in bed as well, (LOL), but I can do that with my wife of course, what I wanted to say is that there are limits to everything, but having a limit to something does not mean that I have it at all, of course we are talking about how much the friendship between different sexes could stand against same sex friendship, I think that mentally and psychologically, it can be exactly equal, I can share all my ideas and reflection with my female friend just the same way I would share them with my male friend, (that of course depends on your moral values and on what you would naturally share with other people), but in terms of physical practices, of course I cannot do everything with neither of my type of friends, I can still call a female friend of mine, even if she is married, we can still go out together, but we’ve never gone on our VERY own, lots of people always gather, and in this case, her husband would have joined the group of course. My wife can talk with her male friends, but of course I will just have to know about it, because there is nothing to be hidden between us I think, and there is nothing to be a shamed of, so why hide it? (That is if you get my idea of having limits to everything)

Originally posted by BLuE_Chi
My wife can talk with her male friends, but of course I will just have to know about it, because there is nothing to be hidden between us I think, and there is nothing to be a shamed of, so why hide it? (That is if you get my idea of having limits to everything) [/B]

Before i even answer you Blue - are you married?!

Originally posted by Neena
Still I say there is no really a pure friendship between a male and a female.


exactly my point !! there is no friendship between a man a and a woman, and there is never gonna be.

I still have not got answers from other member about my above question.... i honestly really want to know!

I do believe in friendship between males and females. It's not true that at some point something ahev to happen between them. I have alot of male friends and nothing happened between us. Maybe as Bloom says cuz I'm ugly :P
I think it depends on how you deal with a male friend, I treay my friends like my brothers that's why they treat me like a sister. They always say they feel comfortable being with me. I'm not in contact with them that much these days but they still call me from time to time just to say hi.

maybe you are too naive, blood rose and you can not see what they really think ;) , just be careful

and neena, about your question........i think females won't mind thier husbands having female friends............but arab men i don't think so.

Originally posted by Neena
Before i even answer you Blue - are you married?!

Noooooo, lol, I have always meant "my future" wife.

I am still not getting answers ... hello ppl are you around ro what i would really want some answers here from girls and guys ..

how many of you guys here in the sabla wouldn’t mind that your wives/girlfriends keep in touch with their male friends.

And how many of you girls who wouldn’t really mind your husband’s/ boyfriends to keep in touch with their female-friends?!

Please answer very honestly!!



and neena, about your question........i think females won't mind thier husbands having female friends............but arab men i don't think so.

Bloom.. i am not sure if i got your answer but are you telling me that Females wouldn;t mind their husband to have female friends . but arab men wouldn;t like the idea for their wives to have male friends?! . Now were you reffering to Arab Females or what excatly there?!

I don;t see much of justification in your answer Bloom sorry.

I mean for me to answer those question... I wouldn;t really want my husband to hung out with his female friends one bit. I wouldn;t really feel comfertable not becuase I don;t trust my hubby but because I don;t trsut those WOMEN! . Especially if its a woman who if i meet and don;t like hell no [ plus don;t really very much get along with females to start with] very lil you would really find me being close to females.. they are counted!!

I honestly doubt it very much that a husband would like it if his wife would keep contact with her male friends... unless its only at work or Uni .. thats the most.. it wouldn;t ever go beyond that. And the same thing goes to WOMEN... they are no any difference!

Majority fo those women who happen to have let their husband have female friends or even be close with her Own friends ened up betraying her big time.. so no is no!

yes i meant that women won' mind their husbands having female friends, they would also try to befriend them. cause women - arab or non arab - will do anything to keep their husbands happy. anyway thats how i think at least..........

Originally posted by Bloom
yes i meant that women won' mind their husbands having female friends, they would also try to befriend them. cause women - arab or non arab - will do anything to keep their husbands happy. anyway thats how i think at least..........

No way, not in 100 years! I would never allow my future husband to have female friends, the same way he wont allow me to have male friends.

And the question here is. Why would u need to have friends from the opposite sex when u're married? Isnt ur spouse suppose to be ur best friend??

Originally posted by SunRise
No way, not in 100 years! I would never allow my future husband to have female friends, the same way he wont allow me to have male friends.

And the question here is. Why would u need to have friends from the opposite sex when u're married? Isnt ur spouse suppose to be ur best friend??

Thank you - you for sure made my day more brighter but what you said up there!!! :)

That is excatly what i was trying to say but didn't know how to bring it out.

Bloom - i kinda don;t agree on what you said .. women would try so hard to make their husband HAPPY?! ... maybe that is one of our biggest mistakes than if you tell me as men took that as an advantage and they just know how to twist that sensative part... !:duh:

Bloom I'm not naive at all and I know my friends well. And if they as you assume how come they didn't approach me or say anything to me until now?!!!

And from where did you get the idea that women don't mind thier husband to have female friends??!!!! of course they mind. It's true women might do anything to keep thier husband happy but there are limits for everything.

Originally posted by Neena
Thank you - you for sure made my day more brighter but what you said up there!!! :)

That is excatly what i was trying to say but didn't know how to bring it out.



My pleasure :)

Bloom I'm not naive at all and I know my friends well. And if they as you assume how come they didn't approach me or say anything to me until now?!!!

Blood Rose, lets face reality here. Pretend that u're attracted to ur male friend, and want to share some romantic moments with them, do u think they would disagree or push u away?? Am sure they would be more than happy to get into ur pants. (No offence intended) I was just trying to clear up my point.

I dont say that friendship between both sexes is impossible, in fact its not, but its definitely very rare.

in fact i know a lot of women who made friends with their husbands female freinds.......and i agree with you all that there is a limit for everything. if the other woman respected her and treated her like a sister, why wouldn't the wife treat her the same?

Originally posted by Bloom
in fact i know a lot of women who made friends with their husbands female freinds.......and i agree with you all that there is a limit for everything. if the other woman respected her and treated her like a sister, why wouldn't the wife treat her the same?

Sweetheart - when you get married .... I am 100% sure you will know where I am coming from trust me. There is no way in hell would i agree that my husband to have female friends .. over my died body... . I must say this .. women are so damen nasty and big time Devils.. especially if they see that 2 couples are just good to each other thats excatly what they will target!!

" i remember my religion teacher told us one before when i will still in school" Never ever let your girlfriends come and visit you at home when your husband is around... always make sure that when you got friends coming over that ur husband is not there.. and trust me she really ahd a very good reason to say that!!

Originally posted by SunRise
My pleasure :)



Blood Rose, lets face reality here. Pretend that u're attracted to ur male friend, and want to share some romantic moments with them, do u think they would disagree or push u away?? Am sure they would be more than happy to get into ur pants. (No offence intended) I was just trying to clear up my point.

I dont say that friendship between both sexes is impossible, in fact its not, but its definitely very rare.

Hey thanks for making things clear for me :P althought I understood your point without the "get into your pants" sentance. Anyways I admit that it's rare to fine friends between males and females but I'm one of the few ppl who has that. And believe me my friends don't wanna get "into my pants" :P
I knew them when I wa sin college and when we used to be together there was nothing romantic about it. And to add most of them had girls in thier lives so you see I was like a friend and a sister to them.

that's why they are your freinds blood rose, they alreday got girls in their lives. and they just keep you as extra in case they broke up with those girls.

Ah well 3 of them don't have girls in thier life anymore and they are still the same with me nothing changed. And they don't keep my as a friend just in case they broke up with thier girls so they can get me :mad:

Why don't you accept the fact that we are just friends Bloom?!!! I do believe in friendship between males and females and sometimes I think female friends are better. At least they don't stab you and they don't tell you that someone else took over your place. You don't have to be in contact with the all the time. I'm not saying that I don't have female friends I do but I'm the one who has to keep in touch with them. I call them from time to time and they don't call back. I send them SMS and e-mails and they don't reply back as well. But I'm ok with it cuz I know how girls are.

Originally posted by Bloom
when i was young i used to argue with my brother about my male friends, he believes that there could never be a friendship between a guy and a girl unless he is guy, married, in love or the girl is pretty ugly!
of course i used to disagree but now i strongly agree cause i learned the hard way, but what do you think? does a guy just makes friend with girl with other intentions in his mind? or there could be really a pure freindship between the sexes? and what about the girl? does she really need a male friend? and does she expect more than just friendship?

we'll am close with alot of girls, we talk, i tell them my problem and thy tell me theirs, and also sometimes we meet up and talk
it all depends on the guys personality

ALL THE BOYS AREN'T THE SAME, SINCE I STARTED MY SCHOOLING IN GORDONSTOUN SCHOOL IN SCOTLAND AND UNTIL NOW I HAD SO MANY FEMALE FRIENDS. WE WERE ONLY FRIENDS AND HAD NO OTHER INTENSION IN MYSELF.

WE WERE MORE LIKE BROTHERS AND SISTERS. AND LATER WHEN I REACHED ALMOST YEAR 11 I CAME BACK TO OMAN, AND WANTED TO STUDY IN ABA, FOR SOME REASONS I COULDN'T, THEN WHEN I SAW IT WAS TOO LATE I HAD TO GO TO A GOVERNMENT SCHOOL IN RUWI, AND THAT TOO YOU SHOULD SEE MY ARABIC THEN...:( SO SAD BEING AN OMANI I CAN'T SPEAK ARABIC WELL.

BACK TO THE TOPIC:

IT WAS MY BLOODY TIME, HAD ONLY ONE BREAK WHICH I CONSIDER OMANI SCHOOLS REALLY NEED IMPROVEMENTS IT SHOULD BE MIXED SCHOOL WHERE THESE BOYS, MEANING THE TYPES OF DUDES WHO BLOOM MENTIONED CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ACTUALLY FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN A BOY AND GIRL.

IN MY CLASS BUSINESS LAW I HAVE 17 GIRLS IN MY TUTORIAL AND I AM THE ONLY GUY... AND THEY ALL GOOD FRIENDS. WE SOMETIME SPEND SOMETIME AT MY HOUSE. SOME OF THE GIRLS ARE EVEN SEXY LOOKING BUT STILL NO BAD INTENTIONS OK.

DEARIES ACTUALLY THIS INTENTION THINGY COME AS PER SOMEONE'S HEART, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH CLEAN IT IS. IF YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU A PICTURE OF ALL MY GIRL FRIENDS WITH ME, NO WORRIES JUST GIVE ME YOUR E-MAIL AND I'M READY TO SEND THEM TO YOU... BUT STILL AS I SAID WHAT BETWEEN ME AND MY GIRLFRIENDS IS JUST PURE FRIENDSHIP...

AS BLOOM SAID SOME GUYS KEEP SPARE. WELL FOR ME I HAVE ONLY ONE SINGLE FATHER, AND SO I HAVE ONE SINGLE WORD AS MAN'S WORD, AND SO I KEEP IT. BUT DEARIES THOSE WHO ARE BORN TO UNIDENTIFIED FATHER MAYBE WOULD DO THAT TO BREAK A GIRL'S HEART. YOU KNOW WHAT MY FIANCEE, I MET HER THROUGH THE INTERNET, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EACH OTHER, THE FIRST TIME WE EVER MET WAS ON 14th FEBRUARY 2003 WHEN I THOUGHT OF GIVING HER LIFE TIME SURPRISE FOR THE VALENTINES DAY, AND SO I DID.... MY FIANCEE KNOWS ABOUT ALL MY GIRLFRIENDS, BECAUSE SHE'S MET THEM ALL THROUGH CHAT AND TELEPHONE CONVERSATIONS.

THERE ARE DAYS IN WHICH MY FRIENDS HAD TO STAY WITH ME AT HOME BECAUSE THEY WERE LATE TO CATCH THEIR LAST TRAIN, THEY STAYED HOME WITH ME, GUESS WHAT? WE SLEPT TOGETHER ON THE SAME BED, IF I WANTED I COULD HAVE BECOME DIRTY WITH THOSE GIRLS, BUT NO SHETAN PLAYS IN MY MIND, AND I SWEAR TO ALLAH I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING AS SUCH UNTIL NOW, WHENEVER WE SLEPT TOGETHER I JUST FELT LIKE HOW I SLEEP WITH MY MALE COUSINS, THE SAME WAY, BECAUSE FRIENDS ARE FRIENDS FOR ME, SISTERS ARE SISTERS, AND I DON'T MIX UP A B*I*T*C*H WITH MY FRIENDS AND SISTERS. SO DEARIES I WOULD LIKE YOU GIRLS TO USE THE WORD SOME, AND SAY SOME BOYS INSTEAD OF SAYING BOYS....

BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE THE SAME... HELLO LOOK AT YOUR FINGERS THEY AREN'T ALL THE SAME.....

FOR ANY FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO CHOOSE YOUR MALE FRIEND (NOT BOYFRIEND) CONTACT ME....


AND DON'T TALK LIKE S T U P I D S, I MEAN NO OFFENCING TO ANYONE....

THANKS....:) :color: ;)

AMIR AL-BALUSHI™

Originally posted by the_killer


AMIR AL-BALUSHI™ [/B]

PS : it will be really nice if you just drop the Caps .. as you just seem that you are shouting rather than being cum :) so please drop the caps.