As a result of banning Wanderer 'unfairly'!!! I have decided to QUIT THIS SABLA...... I THINK I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH INJUSTICE IN THIS WORLD ..... I WILL NOT TOLERATE IT IN THIS SABLA TOO!!!

HERE IS A LINK ON WHY WANDERER WAS BANNED:

http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14709

GOOD BYE:fire:

Darling Seham,

I am sure that you have enough insight and wisdom to ascertain that THAT ONE THREAD is NOT the sole reason for Wanderer's exclusion from the Sabla. He has had repeated run-in's with members, and his interactions, on the whole, are far from respectful ones.

When you treat people with disrespect, you should expect to be dismissed.

I hope that you will reconsider, and remain a part of this peaceful Sabla family.

Sincerely,
Raf.

Miss seham..

What he posted in that thread wasnt the reason he got banned. He got his 3rd warning earlier within the week , and after reading that post i realised my fellow moderators were right whith the decision to ban him , as i myself have to admit that i do like him being around. but the problem is that he keeps on doing the same mistake over and over.

perhaps i was wrong to announce it in that thread.. but it just came after a member complained from his behavior in both politcs and religion.

he can always come back ..if he sends the administration a Promissory note .. stating that he wont repeat his previous mistakes .

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please reconcider ur decision , as u are one of our valuable members around here..and it would make me sad to see u leave. its enough that i had to let go of wandy , and i wouldnt bear to see another brilliant member leave us.

i support the ban. the wan guy has no manners and always uses offensive language. i don't think members should be allowed to lower their manner levels to his so the ban is well deserved.

and anyone who support him can leave with him too. we don't need the crap in here.

They begin by banning Teabag and Silver.

They insult and they insult the intelligence.

Sadly the only members of any value on this forum were Wanderer, Moonchild and Gal. (not counting Shakoosh and Fatak who hardly post these days).

Rafee's only contrubution these days is to pop up and baitch about other members.

Well if you want this forum for the likes of Teabag and Ring, then you will probably be there sooner than later.

And Mo, his language isn't offensive.

It's clever and witty.

But then you need half a brain to understand that.

He deserve it sara7a...
i have nothing more to add...

I dunno wat he has done but i think it would be unfair to ban him because i have seen far worse members.

He only insults the members who is asking for it!


I THINK I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH INJUSTICE IN THIS WORLD ..... I WILL NOT TOLERATE IT IN THIS SABLA TOO!!!

dont be such a drama queen! Dont run away, i like your ideas - they are different.

Nabhan, i know you are a just guy, i think you ought to start off sorting those members out who break rules and dont be told off for doing so.
For example,
Moonie mentioned a thread, it was started in religion sabla - that thread was initially created to offend her religion. and that is against the rules.

As for other things, we all must tolerate each others beliefs.

I hate it whenever some members mention a insult about either a bible and their own opinion or idol god in middle of any thread and thus changing the topic into insults.

Originally posted by Big MO
i support the ban. the wan guy has no manners

that's a real hoot, coming from you. :rolleyes: You are part of what is wrong with Sabla these days - mock, insult, mud-slinging anyone who doesn't agree with you! :barf:

Nabhan, don't know why .. but I have a gut feeling that this is not your say.

Ice Stain and Sphincter should be banned for life and eternity, if something like this is to happen ...

....

Besides ... just because he comes across too witty and smart for a few mods, doesn't mean he's insultive. I've heard fowl comments hurled at Moonie, at burning the US and all kind of stuff around the Sabla. But nothing happens.

Just wish Sabla isn't turning into a racist, bigottery forum.

:rolleyes:

What was the reasonf for the ban?

I hear the banned person himself doesn't know.

I am posting this at his request:

" Banned over this ?

Nabhan, is the ban because of earlier warnings or poor Raffee's complaint ?

It's not clear which, as you mention both in the explanation of your decision. If Raffee's complaint had nothing to do with it, you display muddled thinking in mentioning it when discussing your decision. If Raffee's complaint had something to do with it, I suggest you explore the merits, if any, of Raffee's reflexive, contrived discomfort. I think you'll see that she's going through another of her "get into the spotlight at any cost phases" again. Though this is better than her posting that she about to jump
if she doesn't get an instant message within 5 minutes.

I provided an alternate to the father and son question and answer e-mail that Milardo Peacecraft posted. At Raffee's request.

Note that I added more than just rebuttal. Among other things, I included a comical sub-theme of being cruel to "my son" by suggesting to him that he isn't my child because of how he thinks, his inability to listen to my answers, and the questions he asks. Do you think this is serious ? How about how I regularly smack (hit) him when he persists in a line of questioning which has already been dealt with ? Do you think I actually DO that ?

I suggest within this dialog with "my son", that Saudi Arabia and
Afghanistan should both be burnt and started over. Yeah, so ? Didn't the dialog just finish up describing how several of the terrorist hijackers came from KSA, that their leader came from KSA, and that all were trained and/or sheltered in Afghanistan ? Isn't an appropriate tongue-in-cheek response that we should just get rid of those places ? In subsequent dialog with Raffee, I even suggest burning 2 of the 50 states - at this point are you still thinking that there is seriousness to the suggestions ?

I hate to end my posting to the Sabla with this, but you make it seem appropriate, and if you think about it, it says it all.

Duh. "

Originally posted by raffee
Darling Seham,

blah blah blah

How delightfully condescending. Are you always this b*tchy, or is it just that time of the month?

Nah, I figure it happens this time of the month.

Or as I hear all over the sabla ... some ladies just crave all the attention they can gather.

:bored:

Originally posted by sanwin25
And Mo, his language isn't offensive.

It's clever and witty.

But then you need half a brain to understand that.

there's a big differnece between being clever and low life scum.
but then you wouldn't know the differnce.

Originally posted by Shinoda LP
Or as I hear all over the sabla ... some ladies just crave all the attention they can gather.

:bored:

are you talking about yourself here cause you're acting like a lady wanting some attention.

are you talking about yourself here cause you're acting like a lady wanting some attention.

Wonder why you're getting so worked up to see me saying something about someone else.

What have you guys been doing?

Originally posted by MoonChild
that's a real hoot, coming from you. :rolleyes: You are part of what is wrong with Sabla these days - mock, insult, mud-slinging anyone who doesn't agree with you! :barf:

that's your opinion and i couldn't care less what you think.

Originally posted by Shinoda LP
Wonder why you're getting so worked up to see me saying something about someone else.

What have you guys been doing?

the lady wants to gossip now.

btw i see u getting worked up about something being said about wan. what have u guys been doing?

the lady wants to gossip now.

btw i see u getting worked up about something being said about wan. what have u guys been doing?

I see someone did a good job of making an avatar of you, shirtless. Oh wait, Raffee's last one looks similar artistically.

Naughty, naughty.

Originally posted by MoonChild
How delightfully condescending. Are you always this b*tchy, or is it just that time of the month?

Now now Moonie. Watch that blood pressure dear.

Its really quite sad that you can go from really sweet to really stupid in a matter of minutes.:rolleyes:


Hmm... it really IS impossible to hide your true colours after all.

Originally posted by Shinoda LP
I see someone did a good job of making an avatar of you, shirtless. Oh wait, Raffee's last one looks similar artistically.

Naughty, naughty.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!PMSL!!!!!!!!!ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D


Are you done fantasising sir???

When have I ever insulted your integrity??? Or is this the 'non-muslim' way you speak of?:rolleyes: :wink:

Fantasising? Of who? You?

Holy Christ ... now that was stupid :D

...

As a matter of fact, you showed your true colors by sucking upto the mods for something as lame as what Wandy did.

Oh well, once it tones down ... you'll probably get back to senses.

ps/ I sometimes feel thankful for not being a muslim ;)

Originally posted by MoonChild
Nabhan, is the ban because of earlier warnings or Raffee's complaint ?


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Let me get things clear :

1. The decision of the BAN was NOT mine , so will you people please adress the MODERATING TEAM .. instead of me. :)

2. He got his ban because of earlier warnings..and so raffee has nothing to do with this. please leave her out of it.

3. Am disgusted by the way some of you are talking to each other here. u CLAIM that u're all adults yet u're not acting like one.


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Any further insults and the thread shall be locked. i dont wanna be announcing anymore warnings!!! :duh: :bored:

He got his ban because of earlier warnings..and so raffee has nothing to do with this. please leave her out of it

Why didn't he get banned when he got the last warning? Or was it being debated?

Originally posted by Shinoda LP
Or was it being debated?

yep . thats why it was delayed.

A new bigotry era has started for all of us ... welcome in :)

Originally posted by Shinoda LP
A new bigotry era has started for all of us ... welcome in :)

believe me.. i feel for all of you none muslims. i really do. but the problem is you let the other members GET to you..and then problems start. i know its not hard..but it would be much easier if once u dont like something that is said against you, u issue a complaint against it ..and the mods would deal with it immediatly.

By giving up... you're letting them win. and giving them the satisfaction.

but anyways.. in the end.. its up to u.

What is this? A kind of game?

Sometimes you just act like an adult and when someone passes a witty comment, you laugh along.

But, thats not the case with most others ... you hear something, suckle up.

Oh well ... there's a moderation team waiting to pounce.

...

Case rested ... am out of this thread :)

Originally posted by raffee
Hmm... it really IS impossible to hide your true colours after all.

LOL I guess it is ;)

OK, you don't have an excuse - thus answering my question.

I'm just going by the evidence - first, you ASK for Wanderer's responses, but once you read it, you completely fail to see the humor (that was evident to the rest of us) ... and make a nasty comment to him.

then, when Seham gets mad about what she sees as unfair treatment of a member, you post 2 VERY condescending responses to her, complete with falsetto "darlings". Seham is the smartest, classiest lady on the Sabla, and you'll hurt your neck if you try to look down on her.

It comes across as very false, and very catty. True colors? Not my words...

well after several times giving wanderer chances and we were even accused to be very easy with him!!!
I personaly realised that I was abused cause i was tolerative!
But according to the rules we go

The guy was banned before...then he came back....and FOR SURE when he came back he wasa different person! (worse!!!) i noticed that from all the threads! even in health and education!!!!(such a serious sabla!!!)

Come ONn I do know Wanderer for long time now!
I have such respect to him!
I KNOW HIS SENSE OF HUMOUR!...
I enjoyed (In the past) to read his descent, light comments (Funny) on some members!) BUT the past few months the Light became heavy! and finaly led to insults!!!

How many times I did send notices to Wandy!
How many time did i try my best to solve problems that occured in the past between him and some members in a Good calm way without warnings or bans!!!

BUT it was realy disapointing!!!

The ban doesnt come easy...U gys should know that its a result of accumilated MAJOR mistakes...
I can forgive...but others cant and I am not in the position to eat the rights of others!

A BAN is always a diffucult choice..and we try our best not to take it! BUT after we finish all the ways! we might reach it! and in wandys case...it did!!!

DONT mix cases ...DONT TRY and bring up different situations! in same topic!...RULES r Clear! and if it was not...U wouldve discussed with us about it! (LIKE HOW BIG MO DID Thankfully in the past!!!!) OTHER than this U R ALL with all respect BOUND to follow It :)

The descion of the ban came after long discussion!
And its a TEAM Descion! (NOT a single person)!!!!!!

Am very sorry!
Not sorry for U BUT sorry cause u disapointed me!

AND
This thread made me discover some dark side in some of the members above! made me suprized!!

P.s. By the way...any member has a complain or thinks he was insulted in a thread...Should send a pm to the moderator ...GUYS DONT EXPECT US TO Be UR LAWYERS!!!! AND PARENT U!!...The rules r clear...an insult to u might not be an insult to others..and thats the BIG catch here!!! BUT still u have the right to inform us!

Originally posted by Thug4Life

This thread made me discover some dark side in some of the members above! made me suprized!!

Well said thug..and u're not the only one who feels that way, as i too am shocked from what some over here had to say.

Members you always seem to enjoy pin pointing where we went wrong..and how we should have done things...and most of you seem to enjoy calling us "racist" when we are not...we are a team and when a decision needs to be made we all have our say...For once instead of accusing us try and understand why this was done...you may be surprised ..and being a mod is not an easy job "when we do something right no one remembers when we dont something wrong no one forgets!!"

Ok the mods know best.

I am sad to see all the nonsense between the members in page 1 of this thread. You are creating a big disturbance. all of you.

I agree with thug and nab.


Points for the future to mods/

Next time there is any more racist or rule breaking goin on, then i wil be the one to send you a PM, so that person can be dealt with. You al have lives, and you all cannot check everythread, but if there is stuff going on that is hurtful to members, then we all must participate in sorting that person out. :)

it's just funny how some are trying to make it an issue between muslim and non-muslim members. it's just a lame and sad excuse.
wan has insulted so many in the past and has used bad language with so man (including me). he likes to argue but is a very bad loser. once he loses an argument he starts using bad language. i have complained about him once a couple of weeks ago and i believe he issued a warning for that incident. i know of two more warnings that followed after.
so stop twisting the facts and crying like little girls

he's gone and he wont be missed and as i said before anyone who wants to go with him the door is wide open.

Who is Wanderer ?:rolleyes:

Seham : say goodbye to Hollywood

oh man I missed the fight.... god d amn.....


awain I quit... wajid 3ajab...ha3ha3ha3

Originally posted by Scottish Gal
Next time there is any more racist or rule breaking goin on, then i wil be the one to send you a PM, so that person can be dealt with. You al have lives, and you all cannot check everythread, but if there is stuff going on that is hurtful to members, then we all must participate in sorting that person out. :)

thank you..and that will surely be Very helpfull. :)

I've always and still has respect for Wanderer. I find banning him for the reason stated from the other thread a sad reason. But what am I to be listened to, or the others whom wanted Wanderer to be unbanned? Nothing.

Well, the only thing I can say is that it was sad to see Wanderer go, and in a thread I have made no less. MoonChild, BTW, I sent a PM to you. Hope you got it...

As an active member in Politics thread I would like to say few words here with regards the ban of Wanderer.
But before hand I would like to draw the attention of the MOD's of an important issue here , which is You guys play an important role of being the middle men/women when a problem arises and you should try to clam things down and not draw your guns or add more gasoline in an issue or any issue.
We do exchange information we do debate we do get out of line and we do argue but thats as far as it gets or some get the tend to get carried away ( now thats the Mods job is to balance and cool the heat down ) .

We do express our anger here and we do express our emotions here and we do express our ideas .
This is not a court ( yes if it comes to a real abuse of a language)
We need to win people and show them that we care and respect their ideas and belief like what our Prophet did .

I personally dont find anything wrong of what did the guy say .. He is entitled to express and I believe we are too .
I have seen My fellow Omani's or country men really abusing memebers here and push them to a limit ..Come on lets move ahead and this not a game of power or rules its a place where you speak your mind and thoughts loud .

Iam against the ban and I agree with Don Khalid and Seham and moonchild and Milliardo Peacecraft and I bet most of the members are .After all we members make this place happen and ALIVE .
Reconsider the verdict and lets move forward ....

Well said.

I wouldn't want to stay in a forum which can't handle a mature discussion. Actually, not many mature people left anymore.

:rolleyes:

I thank Dark project for rising this point of us moderators duties...as you mentioned that we are supposed to calm things down...you make it sound so easy but really it isnt..

You have to remember that we the modertaing team dont like the word ban at all..because this is not the sablas objective to "ban ppl" we are all here to learn from one another. But we try to do that without degrading each other ..with all due respect to all of you..you keep reminding us that there are some muslims members who have made aggressive comments and we let is go..then you put the tag one us that we are "double standards"..we might missed that post...and it is your job to notify us when you see something wrong...the sabla is not ours but yours!!

So i think you also have a share in what goes on here..so let us help each other...

one slight clarification we are not here to kick out non-muslims or any one for that matter...but when a members does something wrong we go as per the rules..

So understand us and dont be against us..

I have to call you Mrs. 4everyoung nice to see you back on action.
Again Im not reminding you of the duties of the MODs .. Not at all and I know how difficult it is to monitor and supervise on any people .
I wanted to emphasize that there should not be a rule of black or white.. Let us make shades in between and carry on with this intellect discussion or debates.

Secondly I have not said anything about Muslims in here I quote your post "some Muslims members who have made aggressive comments and we let is go.." I said fellow countryman sister 4eve.

Now again if you check the posts in this thread you will read some provocative posts whereby it is not necessary at all to allow it and MOD’s should have made a stop to it in a civilized way .

By the way Im not against you MOD's or any one I merely here to enjoy reading posts and post my views .

thank you Dp..

when i posted above i didnt mean that you mean the non muslims..but in general that is the case.

Rules have to be black or white otherwise there wont be rules!

I know that you arent against us and your views and other members view are what we want.

You mentioned that there are some posts that should not be allowed..let me remind you that there is maximum 2 mods to each sabla..and there are lots of threads so that is why i said that there is a possibility that the moderator has missed a certain post..that is why a memeber should notify the moderator so action can be taken.

I thank you once again for bringin up these views..

God bless and I rest my case ...

Originally posted by Dark Project



MOD’s should have made a stop to it in a civilized way .




1. I have missed this cross fire talk. Anyway, the word 'civilized' above gives me way to post my views for consideration by the authority concerned.

a) though not specifically what D_P's word civilized entails with regard to what has been said about Hans Vanderer, please allow me to say that I view the word civilized as giving members in general and senior and elite ones some degree of participaction on decision making when it comes to banning a certain member. By that philosophic I mean giving us a little bit of democracy to offer our opinion over a potential candidate for a ban.

b) since I missed most of Hans Vanderer's actions that led to his banning I request the authority to reconsider their decision on the ground that Hans whom I have known for sometime now, has been a victim of his own bankruptcy with no credit for appropriate material to offer to the Sablah. As a result Hans has, out of frustrution, decided to post whatever matters just to be seen around. As a person I have found him to be considerate and when he has had constructive contribution he has never failed to offer it. In nature he represents his interests in a loud and clear voice something which makes the rest of us know him better and often learn from him difficulty of how squeeze blod out of a stone. In my views he was close to a breaking point, for converting to a monolithic belief, at the time of his banning.


2. I think the rest of us, and I mean those who don't enjoy humiliation it is time we learn such kind of behavior and having someone around who is prepared to humiliate the rest is a previlage to the rest. Variation of personality in a society is an ingredient for creativity I should conclude.

I should perhaps say I do not support banning. But those with unpleasant attitude, and I do not mean Hans Vanderer, stands like standing opposite a mirror.

Should I say 'Saffi ya Laban ?' after all there has been harm done and nor there was anything to suggest as such, so 2speak

:blush:

Seham please don't run. Let us hope to see Hans Vand back into the Sablah. His empty seat, over there, represent our tolerance.

Originally posted by Shinoda LP

I've heard fowl comments hurled at Moonie, at burning the US and all kind of stuff around the Sabla. But nothing happens.

Just wish Sabla isn't turning into a racist, bigottery forum.

:rolleyes:

this is just for your info...you dont always know what happens behind the curtains..i knew about this thru Moonchild and we gave the member a warning.

Originally posted by 4-ever-young



Under what circumstance I wonder :blush: boy oh boy bloody wives

what do u mean by that?

Just for my records if you don’t mind telling me so I would rest in Peace with my thoughts.
How is the system of voting works with you Mods ? I mean do you all talk about it and read the article and you all see it fit that he deserve to be booted out .
I mean is there any Mod who dispute or reject the ban or is it a veto.

its a process of discussion among the team members
then most of the times we agree after we convince each other and base on points and facts
but if we dont...we can reach to the point of voting
and majority descion wins

No Vito ;)

Then how do you describe the system is it :


1) Democratic

2) Authoritarian

3) Dectatorial

Where does the system fit 1.2.3 ?

Ok D-S ;) Dont ask what Sabla has done for you

But ask what have you done for Sabla

:gap:
A bit of 1-2-3

I think we ought to drop this subject as the MODs have made up their minds there is no use of dragging the issue right guys ..
Do I sound like Im creating a Sabla Union .

Maybe we should have a Sabla union for Ban and warning ;)

Oh dear. Wanderer banned and Seham gone too. Still, there are still some name games I suppose. Whoopee.

Hang tough Wandy ... I understand where you are coming from and what you meant ... and they'll unban you eventually ... they always let the REALLY good members come back if they choose too.

Originally posted by Dark Project
Ok D-S ;) Dont ask what Sabla has done for you

But ask what have you done for Sabla

:gap:
A bit of 1-2-3

I think we ought to drop this subject as the MODs have made up their minds there is no use of dragging the issue right guys ..
Do I sound like Im creating a Sabla Union .

Maybe we should have a Sabla union for Ban and warning ;)


:gap: no comment I better be :shut: -up otherwise I could develop a 'desperational attitude' which they are used to push begger/s for :rolleyes:


D_P, this boy Orion wants to agitate the Sab authority by his choice of 'challenging language' so 2speak.

D_P. I also know the answer very well if I should try and quote the slogan about what I have done for the Sablah you know what they are gonna say 2z!!!

I am back!!:blush:

A couple of honourable members asked me to come back.... I couldn't resist, after a 2 week break..... I am cool....

I do hope Wanderer [The Thinker] would come back one day, and that people would appreciate him !!!

Its nice to have you back Seham :) :) there are a lot of issues in Politics sabla waiting for you contribution ..