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X-press
10-07-03, 06:56 PM
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The black abbaya is, as you know, the traditional garment a muslim woman wears to hide her body shapes from outsiders.

What would be your reactions if you hear that the russian girls in Dubai are waiting for their "clients" in hotel lobbies....fully covered in abbaya and wearing the veil!?

To your opinion why would they do that and is it acceptable to use religious clothes in such a business?

Big MO
10-07-03, 07:02 PM
well i hope they change their clothes once they are alone with the client otherwise there it's very low value for money.

maybe they're just trying to give that appeal for arabic customers. and know those stupid badwins who go with them girls would think they've actually gone with women from the gulf and might even pay more for it.

it sounds like a ninja invasion.

Ayah
10-07-03, 08:11 PM
In the name of Allah the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful..

Assalamu alikum..

Originally posted by Big MO
well i hope they change their clothes once they are alone with the client otherwise there it's very low value for money.


This is not the point Big Mo.. X-p is asking weather it's acceptable to use religious clothes in such a business or no?

I believe it's strongly unacceptable as these women, besides doing their dirty business, are lying to people. They are misusing those respectful clothes and could make people think bad about women of the country.

May Allah guide them. Otherwise, may Allah give them the punishment they deserve.

Shinoda LP
10-07-03, 10:24 PM
I take it that you're talking about prostitution here, without directly indicating it.

Well, there's something called freedom and everyone has the freedom to wear whatever they want (covering up one's private parts is a good idea ;) ) ...

So, I have no idea why this would cause a lot of concern just because a few ****s wear the aabaya too.

You should concern with your relation with your God and leave the rest to God ... the rest will take care by itself :p

ps/ If the ****s were wearing saffron suits, I wouldn't be angry because they're wearing a religion Hindu outfit.

Navigator
10-07-03, 10:40 PM
I tend to agree with papa Shinoda !



What would be your reactions if you hear that the russian girls in Dubai are waiting for their "clients" in hotel lobbies....fully covered in abbaya and wearing the veil!?

It's something good they do ! bY this they can avoid being suspecious and looked at as hookers ! They are protecting themselves and they are being respectful and giving the job its taste !

The black abbaya is, as you know, the traditional garment a muslim woman wears to hide her body shapes from outsiders.

I am afraid it's not always the case ! Nowadays, many women use such types of abbayas that are very tight and show her figure and how she looks like clearly ! a women could be very repectful without wearing abbayas and vice versa !



To your opinion why would they do that and is it acceptable to use religious clothes in such a business?

duhh , what kind of questions is this ?!!
what do you mena by this ?!! whose religion your talking about ? ours or the Russian's ?!!

It's up to them what to wear , but they can make a law over there to stop such pratice ! Bare with me it's not only Russians hookers , many other Nationalities as well, like Morrocan , Bulgaria , Tureky, Iran !

So how about the Morrocan , Iranian hookers , is it ok for them to wear abbayas since they are Muslims by names ?!!

Libellula
10-07-03, 10:54 PM
I agree partly with what Shinoda said, let them wear what they want. Even though they're hiding behind those Abaayas, at least you don't have to see them wearing something not very appealing to the eye (or should I say, most eyes? ;))

Ofcourse it's wrong of them to use the Abaaya, but they're doing it. Now what's anyone going to do about it? It's not like they care what's wrong or what's right. They're prostitutes for God's sake!

Shinoda LP
10-07-03, 11:09 PM
X-press ... how do you know that they wear aabayas in hotel suites? :duh:

Libellula
10-07-03, 11:11 PM
They do, I've heard this before..

NaBHaN
11-07-03, 02:38 AM
it doesnt matter what they wear..cause in the end they are prostitutes..and what we should be really concerned about is..how come the government isnt doing much to stop such people..and practices.

X-press
11-07-03, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Navigator
Nowadays, many women use such types of abbayas

.....it's not only Russians hookers , many other Nationalities as well, like Morrocan , Bulgaria , Tureky, Iran !

Navy, I guess yes there is a difference here as the Morrocan, Turkish ladies or Iranians are still originally muslims and this garment can be worn by them simply because of habit and not for a purpose.

Russians are not muslims and it seems they do purposely wear the local abbayas not to protect themselves, but to look more attractive and mysterious to their clients and mainly the arab men.

The arab men see in them, not only something which reminds them of their women, but more as they have a different look and appeal which added with the abbaya makes it even more exotic and attractive. As for the visitors, they can somehow have a taste of both world!:rolleyes:

Shinoda LP
11-07-03, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by X-press
They see in them, not only something which reminds them of their women, but more as they have a different look and appeal which added with the abbaya makes it even more exotic and attractive.


I don't believe thats true at all!

The primary reason would be to move around un-noticed and the government can't do anything till the Omanis try to become better people themselves!!

X-press
11-07-03, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Navigator
[quote]To your opinion why would they do that and is it acceptable to use religious clothes in such a business?"

duhh , what kind of questions is this ?!!
what do you mena by this ?!! whose religion your talking about ? ours or the Russian's ?!![/size]

Of course I mean "islam" here, why should I be concerned if they misrepresent their own religion or believes?

So Navy, it seems that you find it strange that I ask if it is acceptable to use the abbayas (which are somehow a representation of islam) in such a business....if for you, there is nothing wrong, I guess if tomorrow there are some foreign gay prostitute men (no need to point at a nationality here) who decided all to wear the omani dishdashas to attract more their arab clients in hotels bars, you will not find anything wrong with that??

X-press
11-07-03, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by Shinoda LP
I don't believe thats true at all!

....till the Omanis try to become better people themselves!!

Hello Shinoda, read the title, we are not talking about Omanis here. This is happening now in Dubai, not in Muscat!

Shinoda LP
11-07-03, 02:59 AM
ahem ahem, sorry den ... change the omanis to dubai-ites and you get my thought!

The idea remains the same doesn't it? :duh:

Cerulean
11-07-03, 03:13 AM
Well Shinoda is sorta right, u know. Cuz some of the clients are from oman, so they do need to change 'em selves. :rolleyes:

Homeless
11-07-03, 03:17 AM
I am sorry but I think this thread is pointless

besides what they r actually doing is TOTALLY forbidden so it doesnt matter what they wear before or after.

BaBeLiCiOuS
11-07-03, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Homeless
I am sorry but I think this thread is pointless

besides what they r actually doing is TOTALLY forbidden so it doesnt matter what they wear before or after.


i totally agree with ur point cuz no matter wht they wear in the end it doesn't change the fact tht they are prostitutes !

we have to stop this but the government is not doing anything to stop it !!!!!
This thing is also found in oman and i was very shocked when i heard this .... i really couldn't believe i heard lots of stories we have to save omanis from very harmful diseases... :( !!!

X-press
11-07-03, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by Homeless
....what they r actually doing is TOTALLY forbidden so it doesnt matter what they wear before or after.

What is exactly forbidden here 'Homeless' ? The fact that they are prostitutes and wear abbayas to add more spices to their act, or the fact that they are simply prostitutes. If you are talking about the 2nd part, this is not the aim of this thread.

I am not an omani, nor an arab from this region, but I am actually very surprised to many casual answers here, as many seem to show that it is absolutely no big deal...or in other word, that it is perfectly fine for these promiscious girls to use your women's dress which are supposed to show a certain faith and decency.

Because of their purpose, I found it quite offensive (so does my Omani husband and our friends) and if I was from Dubai, I would certainly try to put a complain to the government.

Big MO
11-07-03, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by Homeless
I am sorry but I think this thread is pointless

besides what they r actually doing is TOTALLY forbidden so it doesnt matter what they wear before or after.

no thread is pointless.

of course it matters what costumes they wear. it's all about fantacies. some ppl like a french maid costume and apparently some prefer the abayah now!!!!

Homeless
11-07-03, 05:04 AM
either way this topic is pointless.........

X-press
11-07-03, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Homeless
I am sorry but I think this thread is pointless


Why is this thread pointless?

Because we might not be able to solve this 'problem', if you see it as one? So does this mean that threads talking about unemployment, Iraq, defective phone cards, how to wear make-up etc... are also pointless as we can't really bring a change?

These non-muslim Prostitutes are wearing publicly (not in close doors) the abbayas and the veils to disguise themselves to get more clients.

I believe that even if we can't bring a change now, hopefully by talking about it we might in the future. Bringing this topic, like any other one to this nature, to the members attention will allow them to be aware of its existence.

Closing our eyes and choosing to ignore is certainly not the best solution....;)

Shinoda LP
11-07-03, 05:08 AM
Tell me one good suggestion as to how and why you should stop this from happening?

First off, what do you want to stop? Prostitution or prostitutes wearing the aabaya?

If its the former, then the main reason why its still prevailant in the 21st century is because their wives don't satisfy them, or the Arabs are too sexually frustrated!! :duh:

If its the second, I see no point as to how you can stop that!!

ps/ Do I sound as if I support prostitution? ... if I sound so, then I don't support it!!

X-press
11-07-03, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by Shinoda LP
First off, what do you want to stop? Prostitution or prostitutes wearing the aabaya?

....If its the second, I see no point as to how you can stop that!!


I repeat again, I am not talking about the act that these girls are prostituing themselves for a living. I am talking about your second point and I don't know how to be more clear then I have already been!

What amazed me the most, is that so many members here are 24/7 defending islam, but they apparently see nothing wrong with non-muslim prostitutes wearing the abbaya which is a muslim symbol :confused:.

I guess tomorrow they can also carry the quran in their hands and read it while waiting for their clients in the lobbies:rolleyes: and you will find nothing wrong with it!

Shinoda LP
11-07-03, 05:22 AM
Sorry XP, all these posts made me think otherwise and besides that, prostitution seemed a much more important issue at hand and not their clothing styles!! :duh:

Besides that think about this ... Islam is one religion which strongly teaches its' followers not to attach themselves to any symbol or figure whatsoever ... be it a dresscode or a figurine!

And that is what this is narrowing down to ... a dress code!

The point of being a muslim should be to be closer to God and not to only wear an aabaya and call it a Muslim symbol ... I frankly am against calling Aabaya a Muslim symbol because it is not!

ps/ I wouldn't care less if they read the Quran while they wait for their 'servicing' because they are equal to aethists in my eyes!

X-press
11-07-03, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by Shinoda LP
Sorry XP, all these posts made me think otherwise and besides that, prostitution seemed a much more important issue at hand and not their clothing styles!! :duh:

All issues can be important and know 'Shinoda' that the topic of prostitution (even in Oman) has already been discussed in this forum and I didn't see now a point to bring it back.

Originally posted by Shinoda LP
Besides that think about this ... Islam is one religion which strongly teaches its' followers not to attach themselves to any symbol or figure whatsoever ... be it a dresscode or a figurine!

With all my respect 'Shinoda", someone has to be really dumb if he thinks that I am talking about worshipping here. I agree that in islam, we are not suppose to worship statues, 'symbols' (as you say it), pictures or figures...but who is talking about this here? :confused:

Originally posted by Shinoda LP
... I frankly am against calling Aabaya a Muslim symbol because it is not!!

Really?!!...then maybe I am wrong to have seen it somehow like one. For what I know, when I see a lady wearing a black abbaya and a veil covering her hair, I automatically associate her to islam and would presume that she is a muslim and not a monk! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Shinoda LP
... ps/ I wouldn't care less if they read the Quran while they wait for their 'servicing' because they are equal to aethists in my eyes!

I really thought that the quran was a sacred book and should not fall into anybody's hand...especially if they are unclean.

I am learning something new today!

Shinoda LP
11-07-03, 05:49 AM
I am learning something new today!

Glad you are! You're on the way to learn a lot more ;)

For what I know, when I see a lady wearing a black abbaya and a veil covering her hair, I automatically associate her to islam and would presume that she is a muslim and not a monk! :rolleyes:

Thats pure ignorace ... if I wear a black drape all over me, then I am supposed to be a muslim lady? Thats news to me!

I agree that in islam, we are not suppose to worship statues, 'symbols' (as you say it), pictures or figures...but who is talking about this here?

You are not talking about worshipping, but you are talking about Islam and Muslims and that brings it down to not-materializing yourself to think about an Aabaya ... Islam is much more than just an Aabaya

Also, XP check this link (http://www.submission.org/teenagers/dress-teens.html) out.

Taken from that link
While many Muslims call "Hijab", an Islamic dress code, they completely ignore the fact that, Hijab as a dress code has nothing to do with Islam and nothing to do with QURAN.

The traditional Arabs, of all religions, Jews, Christians and Muslims used to wear "Hijab," not because of Islam, but because of tradition. In certain areas of the world, men are the ones who wear the hijab while in others the women do.
and
What is inside your heart is more important for God than the dress you wear.


I really thought that the quran was a sacred book and should not fall into anybody's hand...especially if they are unclean.

Thats why I said, I call them aethists!! :duh:

ps/ XP, you know you're mixing up ... and don't get too heated up, lets have a decent discussion ;)

~*FaiThFuL*~
11-07-03, 07:24 AM
I find this piece of news or info pretty annoying, I mean why are those hookers wearing abyaas?!?
I mean yes we go on and on saying stuff like the outside look doesnt matter and the inside does, but we all gotta admit that every group of people according to their Personality , environment , religion and err mental state dress in a certain way, I mean prostitutes mostly wear half naked clothes and muslim women( Truly clinged to their religion) should cover their body except face and hands, however this is a rule of Islam, we aint worshiping the abyaa as a piece of clothes, but the abya was made as an easy solution for that rule, It easily covers the body..., we dont take the abyaa as a piece of clothes as an islamic symbol, but the value tht it carries( The value of women covering their bodies) we take that value as an islamic symbol..
So what are a bunch of hookers doing wearing an abyaa which presents an islamic value?
You will say let them wear what they wanna wear, in the end they are doing somethin awful, it wouldnt matter what they are wearing..But I would have to say NO, let them do their dirty work as long as they want and no1 is stoping that, its obvious we cant do anything to them, but why to allow them to dirty our values with their dirty work?
It isnt abt their look and what is the material they wear, its abt them mixing valuable precious stuff and islamic values with a job and a work and sin which is so dirty...

Navigator
11-07-03, 02:00 PM
Navy, I guess yes there is a difference here as the Morrocan, Turkish ladies or Iranians are still originally muslims and this garment can be worn by them simply because of habit and not for a purpose.

Exxy :

So you don't mind Turkish , Iranians to wear abbayas while they're prostituting , and find it ok since they are muslims
( supposed 2 be ) ! and you find it an acceptable to be worn by the others, Russians and so on ! To be honest we should concern more about the former if we gonna concern ever !

To me , since both of them are hookers, then it doesn't matter what's they re wearing ! Even here in Oman some hookers wear
abbayas ! So shall the governmnt establish a lay the forbbid hookers wearing abbayas ?!!

Since those became hookers, then what's the use of saying the are still orginally muslims ! What Islam has to do with them ?!!

I guess if tomorrow there are some foreign gay prostitute men (no need to point at a nationality here) who decided all to wear the omani dishdashas to attract more their arab clients in hotels bars, you will not find anything wrong with that??

your comparision here is N/A !
Do you think wearing dishdasha by those gays gonna serve the same purpose of the prostitutes !! of course not , and if those gays have some sense , they won't think about it at all ! Wearing dishdasha means that only possibility is u r Omani , but abbayas , could be anything ! and why would a gay wear a dishdasha for God sake !??Usually with Gays it's the other way around, they pay for their clients bzw !!

rafia
11-07-03, 02:29 PM
I totally agree with X-p as abaya as well as hijab are islamic symbols and most of people around the world would automatically point to you as amuslim if you are wearing them.You may be an arab from any religion a agree but the first thing they would think about that you are a muslim and shinodah do you think only arabs wear abayah?,, no you can find female muslims everywhere wearing it .Me personally i think it is very humiliating to abaya and hence to islamic cloths to be used in a such way.

Enigma
11-07-03, 04:37 PM
Isn't it more ..... luring if she's totally covered (and in black) to start with ?

And it's like, she's dressed how all the other women dress there and those men WANT to see/get what's under that black cloak....so it makes it more enticing for them...

I guess they're using it for a way of attracting thus making more money.

Though it's a bit degrading to those who do wear the abaya for conservative/religious reasons. :duh:

IceTea
11-07-03, 06:16 PM
Maybe the reason for waering abbayas to cover themselves from officials in Dubai and practice their dirty business illegally, because what I heared that those prostitutes are now not allowed to do their business in cheap hotels and only allowed to do it in high class hotels. So they go in the streets wearing abbaya to attract hugry customers.

X-press
12-07-03, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by rafia
I totally agree with X-p as abaya as well as hijab are islamic symbols and most of people around the world would automatically point to you as amuslim if you are wearing them..

.....Me personally i think it is very humiliating to abaya and hence to islamic cloths to be used in a such way.

Thanks rafia and ~*FaiThFuL*~ for understanding my point of view and for sharing the same opinion too!

Shinoda LP
12-07-03, 12:55 AM
Is this an agenda for seeing who's supporting who, or should we rather be discussing options to stop this from happening?

My 2 cents?

The govt. should do a large scale round up of these hookers and deport them ... should start public literary classes to make citizens aware of the problems of hooking up with hookers!

And finally, censorship issues should be more leniant, so that people actually live with a normal sexual orientation, rather than being shut off from knowing about sex till they find it out one day and then keep exploiting themselves through it. ;)

X-press
12-07-03, 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by IceTea
...I heared that those prostitutes are now not allowed to do their business in cheap hotels and only allowed to do it in high class hotels. So they go in the streets wearing abbaya to attract hugry customers.

I am don't know if it is not allowed to do it in cheap hotel or if these prostitutes wait for their clients on the streets wearing abbaya. In the case I presented here, these were 'well put together' prostitutes and in a 5 stars hotel...so no cheap place Icy.

The person who saw them was surprised because by their faces he could tell that their were not arabs, but he got confused as they were wearing the black abbaya and were also veiled. Their looks, as well as their behaviours showed that there was more 'under the table'...someone informed that person that they were indeed hoockers from russia and that it was a new fashion among them to use the abbaya to attract more their clients!

The hotel lobby was full of them!

X-press
12-07-03, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Shinoda LP
The govt. should do a large scale round up of these hookers and deport them ...

The government there will probably do nothing about it. Why? Not because these prostitutes are making fantastic money there, but because guess what...they are spending most of their money in the country. They buy a lots, house items, fridge, cookers etc...and ship them all back to Russia. They add a big "plus" to the economy, so why should the government get rid of them?... ;)

MoonChild
12-07-03, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by runnin' around
Isn't it more ..... luring if she's totally covered (and in black) to start with ?

And it's like, she's dressed how all the other women dress there and those men WANT to see/get what's under that black cloak....so it makes it more enticing for them...


Hmmm... would you buy a book if you couldn't see the title, or a pair of shoes in a black box you couldn't open? :p
Seems to me that if you're going to buy sex, you'd want to see the merchandise before you whip out your.... wallet. That abaya might be hiding a body as ugly as a molting parrot!

I think they wear the abayah so they don't get kicked out of the hotel lobby... but my question is, how does anyone know they are prostitutes?

Cute_One
12-07-03, 02:10 AM
You guys always talk about the prostitutes in DUBAI ?!?!?! You should see ba7rain and qatar and OMAN as well and i've seen some!! i was really shocked to see this i couldn't believe my eyes ........

you guys are talking about getting rid of them when most of the people that are responsible of the toursim in the gulf countries ask them to come to raise the economy of the country this is sick !

BaBeLiCiOuS
12-07-03, 02:27 AM
I dunno how can we stop this bcz the government is not doing anything they think it helps to raise the economy...
i think its destroying the society and our islamic beliefs not only our islamic beliefs but it also doesn't respect humanity....!

Shinoda LP
12-07-03, 02:44 AM
the government is not doing anything they think it helps to raise the economy

How so? :o

Sleyum
12-07-03, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by rafia
Me personally i think it is very humiliating to abaya and hence to islamic cloths to be used in a such way.

Rafia Point taken its true non Muslim should not wear a symbolic dress of others Religious, If they cant wear Nun's Dress why should they wear Muslim dress? But the whole blame i PUT it into the official concerns in Dubai...

Unfortunately not very long time to come our door of Hell has also been opened to this kind of dirty Bussiness to come opening up to tourism its opening up to Hell of fire.. Oman in next to Dubai wait and see the same happening in Dubai will be the same happening here In Oman. and yet nothing we can all do about it. perhaps official are trying to cut short trip for our youngest Boys not to go to Dubai if they can still get the same services here in oman, May Almighty Allah Guide us in the right path

H-Highness
12-07-03, 01:09 PM
Very interesing.............people mind other business and forget their problems.

Why do we need to discuss Dubai problem while we have more or less problem in here. It has been reported in here that Chinese *****s use ninja to run their filthy business, after being spotted and caught several times with authority concerned. :eyes:

Sleyum
12-07-03, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by BaBeLiCiOuS
I dunno how can we stop this bcz the government is not doing anything they think it helps to raise the economy...
i think its destroying the society and our islamic beliefs not only our islamic beliefs but it also doesn't respect humanity....!


I doubt really if the Prosititute Industries does help Economically for our Govt. apart from Visas fee. The most Who do gain in this dirty Business are mostly Hotels again Individual Businessman and those Prostitute who comes to drain pocket Money of our Boys ad spread Aids and later the govt, to pay for expensive medicine to cure those with Aids and no benifit to the collection of Visas fees..

IceTea
12-07-03, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by H-Highness
Very interesing.............people mind other business and forget their problems.

Why do we need to discuss Dubai problem while we have more or less problem in here. It has been reported in here that Chinese *****s use ninja to run their filthy business, after being spotted and caught several times with authority concerned. :eyes:

Interesting so even in Oman we have this problem, but I believe it's easy to catch a Chinese ****s compared to Russian ****s due to their special eyes :D

Sleyum
12-07-03, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by H-Highness
Very interesing.............people mind other business and forget their problems.

Why do we need to discuss Dubai problem while we have more or less problem in here. It has been reported in here that Chinese *****s use ninja to run their filthy business, after being spotted and caught several times with authority concerned. :eyes:

Very Interesting reservation HH. Truely that is in the making.. I was told that those Chinese who find a way into Oman are one of the poorest chinese who cant even afford a Hot meal back home, and yet they can afford Buying a Ticket all the way into the gulf, with my recent research and from my reliable source of course not Liers Like Tenet of CIA, I was told there is one Rich Jews Millionare who lives in Singapore and He ie resiponsibility of Giving Tickest to this poor Chinese and makes a very careful selection of 25% Good and Healthy prosititutes and 75% with HIV AIDS.. with the aim of spreading AID'S in the Gulf and to make sure that Arabs are dying slowly and sure, and mostly chinese can be spotted in lekwair near Redson and within Lekhwair My Boys Be careful you are being trapped with time bomb

Homeless
12-07-03, 05:41 PM
I am starting to hate this subject and this thread!!!

IceTea
12-07-03, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by Homeless
I am starting to hate this subject and this thread!!!

Homeless is it pointless?

MoonChild
12-07-03, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Sleyum
I was told there is one Rich Jews Millionare who lives in Singapore and He ie resiponsibility of Giving Tickest to this poor Chinese and makes a very careful selection of 25% Good and Healthy prosititutes and 75% with HIV AIDS..

What, another ZIONIST plot?! :D

V-E-R-Y clever, using the sinful behavior of Arab men as their downfall.

Luckily, there's an easy solution :rolleyes:

Shinoda LP
12-07-03, 11:20 PM
They never blame their own race!! :bang:

Scottish Gal
12-07-03, 11:46 PM
Prostitution is a big shame. Anywhere.

People who have the power in the country should take action.

Citizens of that country should get together and demonstrate {rallies} that power of hatred towards prostitution or any topic that concerns you so that the people who have power can notice.

There is no point sitting in forums and complaining about it.

Write to your Sultan Qaboos, the Omani Government.
Write to Your local council or ministers..........anything that works.

Many of you are highly educated people, get involved with your country and government.

Many of you may mock the above and think "yeah right - as if that will work!" but think again and ask your self questions:

Did i have the intention to stop this prostitution?

Can i make any change?

Do i respect my religion ?

Will i protest against something which is wrong in my religion?

Homeless
13-07-03, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by IceTea
Homeless is it pointless?


yes it is
I said it before and iam going to say it now!!
sorrry ...
:bang:

Shinoda LP
13-07-03, 01:13 AM
You have the option of staying out of this thread then ;)

Homeless
13-07-03, 01:26 AM
hey , that was abit harth!! :weep:


but u're right anyway.......

Homeless
13-07-03, 01:27 AM
harth = harsh

X-press
13-07-03, 02:14 AM
Homeless, with all my respect, there are thousands of threads in this forum and you telling that this discussion is useless doesn't benefit to any of us. Nobody is forcing you to read what is posted here (if you want to ignore the reality of this issue) and you are free to exit for something to your liking.

Originally posted by MoonChild
I think they wear the abayah so they don't get kicked out of the hotel lobby... but my question is, how does anyone know they are prostitutes?

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No MoonChild, in Dubai, prostitutes are allowed to stay in bars or hotel lobbies with little clothes one and they are not kicked for that. I have personally seen them myself and sad enough, they are numerous!

As I said, it seems it is a new trend among them to wear now the abbaya on top of their mini skirts. How do we know that they are prostitutes? Because they look, with their full make-up, at any 'good prospect' in a way that no pious muslim girls would do and they purposely leave part of their abbayas opened to make the men wanderer.

The hotels workers are perfectly aware of who is a regular and they can easily give more details to any curious clients. It doesn't take long before a deal is done...

I still defend the abbaya and the veil, and would like to see both of them used by people who believe in them. If it is to be used for dirty intention, it is better to remove them or not wear them at all...

Shinoda LP
13-07-03, 02:32 AM
X-Press, would you take the initiative to write to the government of either country about this matter?

BaBeLiCiOuS
13-07-03, 04:13 AM
The government actually thinks that they help to raise the economy because when they take these prostitutes to a hotel or something......!!! :mad: :mad:

This is really sick and i really hate it since i saw something like this happening infront of my face !!

i went with my aunt to the OIB branch in ghubra or athaiba im not sure anyways...my aunt went to get money while i sat in the car ,,,,,,i suddenly saw a girl dressed in abaya going to a man in his car and she went to him and showed him what was under her abaya ,,the omani guy just waved to her to go away from him...anyways the girl then went to another man who was waiting in his car and did the same thing....the man in tht car took her inside with him ....isn't that just sick !!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

X-press
13-07-03, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Shinoda LP
X-Press, would you take the initiative to write to the government of either country about this matter?

Wake up Shinoda! Do you really believe that my voice will make a difference in a place which becomes every day more and more promiscious?

Scottish Gal
13-07-03, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by X-press
Wake up Shinoda! Do you really believe that my voice will make a difference in a place which becomes every day more and more promiscious?

thats not the spirit. read what i wrote above in my post.

I think if everyone in this sabla got together, and prepared a rally against these actions then there would bea difference.believe me.

Unless your country is like another Iraq, where nobody is allowed to speak against wrong or else the police will take you to prison for causing a riot (a good one against the wrong)

I hope not.

IceTea
13-07-03, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by X-press


I am don't know if it is not allowed to do it in cheap hotel or if these prostitutes wait for their clients on the streets wearing abbaya. In the case I presented here, these were 'well put together' prostitutes and in a 5 stars hotel...so no cheap place Icy.



Thats was the point I mentioned Exy, now adays they are only allowed to practice their business in a high class hotels and not cheap once as in the past. The information which I got about how they get clients is by going to the dancing lobby or bar in these high class hotels and when they find someone interested they go togeather outside the hotel to their place and do the job.

Shinoda LP
13-07-03, 11:26 PM
Wake up Shinoda! Do you really believe that my voice will make a difference in a place which becomes every day more and more promiscious?

Wow, what an attitude!!

You can't take an initiative for something which you compare with de-faming the 'Islamic symbol' and all you can do is 'hate' it aloud in some forum like this?

Practicality lacks girl!

ps/ if there was something which truly hurts me, then I wouldn't mind writing how-many-ever letters to the authority concerned!

3aYaR_So_MucH
14-07-03, 02:20 PM
To your opinion why would they do that and is it acceptable to use religious clothes in such a business?

I Think ..

probably most of arabian clients been more attracted by abya ,hence they intend to dress in such way and it has nothing to with religion ,though Dubi gov should stop that immediately coz it does effect on Muslim women honor .

Scottish Gal
14-07-03, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Shinoda LP

ps/ if there was something which truly hurts me, then I wouldn't mind writing how-many-ever letters to the authority concerned!

thats the spirit! :)

Persian Queen
29-03-04, 07:52 AM
we didnt respact this dress our selves what imprassion we can give to others. we are waiting others to respact ouir traditional and islamic dress and that what we get from this . We should start with ourselves first befor thinking of other ppl reactions.:D

Muscati
29-03-04, 10:26 AM
I've seen this with my own eyes. Many hotels don't allow these prositutes in them, not even in the lobbies. And some hotels don't allow residents to bring guests to their rooms, or they charge double occupancy if someone books a single room and then has someone sleep over. It's easy for a hotel employee to stop a foreign woman, or even an Arab women who isn't veiled from entering a lift to ask her where she's going. But it's much much harder to question a fully veiled woman. She can pretend to not understand English, or she can just march through the reception and right into the lift without stopping for anyone's questions. similarly, a policeman would think twice before talking to a woman wearing a 3abaya and covering her face.

Thus the present Arab fashion for 3abayas has made prostitutes' lives easier in Dubai.

qais
29-03-04, 02:36 PM
Jumiera beach is sometimes 150% booked because some rooms are rented up to 3 times a day. Mostly men with their hoez.
I dont think its any of the hotel's business who is visiting and wat u plan to do.
Dont think they'll stay in business for 2 long

Stellar
30-03-04, 09:02 AM
You know?! In my opinion these woman wear the 3abayas for a really simple reason. 1, To protect themselves from the police since it's a totally illegal act. 2, To protect their clients if they are from the Gulf. If the client himself feels safe he'll surely go for it. So more money for the Russians. It's all there to alter the facts. It has nothing to do with trying to disrepect the religious wear. I mean the whole act is disrespectful if you want to look at it that way. Nonetheless, it still happens. I've seen Russians without an 3abaya and usually they were with Westerners and everything becayse that look normal. You'll know that she's a one of those girls when the wife calls the husband and asks where he is and while he has his hand down the other woman's shirt saying, he's at the office working. It's sooooooooooooooooooo disturbing to see this in a public place having lunch...

They point is I believe they wear the 3abaya to protect themselves and the clients from the Gulf....

qais
30-03-04, 09:18 AM
While I was enjoying my burger and milkshake a russian chick walked in with a an arabic man. He looked like those jordanian teachers. They agreed on the rate. DHS 200. After he paid for her dinner they went to Rydges-Dhiafa....which is really a brothel

amo_l_oman
30-03-04, 10:08 AM
Yo Qa how many euros is that and do they use condoms?

Muscati
30-03-04, 11:18 AM
200 dirhams is 50 US dollars.

qais
30-03-04, 12:01 PM
thats around 45 euros.
How am I supposed to know if they use condoms :twitch:

Chinese prostitues have become very popular especially among the American soldiers stationed in dubai. They are standing on the street like prostitues but the police arent doing anything... I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw them. It was like the red like district but in Dubai.
I think it should be legalized...its happening whether we like it or not so why not make it safer by having them take blood tests from time to time in order for them to keep the licence.

amo_l_oman
30-03-04, 12:10 PM
Ye right you're 5 yrs old if i remember good :wink:
Well here in Italy difficult to find someone who accepts to do without glove and in case the price goes up to 300 and more euros.

Stellar
30-03-04, 03:07 PM
I'm totally against legalizing prostitution. Yes, it happens anyways, but by legalizing it it'll make the social condition a lot worse. It can wreck homes. We should do our best to stop it. I'm sure there are lot of men out there probably don't use condoms therefor the spread of disease is most likey to happen. I think that's disturbing. It doesn't matter what race they are or whatever. It's still a disgusting act.

SteLLa
16-06-05, 01:37 AM
This thing is also found in oman and i was very shocked when i heard this .... i really couldn't believe i heard lots of stories we have to save omanis from very harmful diseases... :( !!!

i saw them with my own eyes standing infront of alfair, but they werent in 3abayas, they wore those prostitute clothing that u c in movies n were standing there showing off their bodies :angry:

CrazyReD
16-06-05, 11:25 AM
well because of the new visa rules Oman is getting more of those prostitutes in the country

Arabian Prince
16-06-05, 12:25 PM
because of the new visa rules Oman is getting more of those prostitutes in the country
Very true... it has also been abused by the authorities
If nothing is done about it, it won't be too late until we find ourselves like Dubai in this sense

fatamooo
29-06-05, 03:41 PM
I didn't read all of the posts, but to answer the question:
putting aside the fact that prostitution is haram and they shouldn't even be in those hotel lobbies in the first place, I think it's better that they wear abayas then tight revealing tacky outfits that *****s usually wear. If they're wearing abayas then they wont attract other males and give them ideas..

Soulless
25-07-05, 11:21 PM
putting aside the fact that prostitution is forbidden/prohibited there are many advantages of this misery, people who are never able to get married they satisfy their desires by going to those hotels to fulfill their sexual desires in my point of view its better to go to those hotels instead of raping innocent girls and women ..

the High Mahar “Dowry” and the fathers who demand high mahar are the ones who really should blamed .

Hordog
26-10-05, 11:17 PM
its not just Russians its more than them its indians , iranian , zalamishyan , and marrocan womeans